A thread for hooking people up with stuff that's out of print.

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I thought it might be nice to have a place for buying & selling, trading CDRs, or even some newfangled-type YSI thing for out of print stuff that is also hard to get online. Even in these days of plenty there is still stuff like this! Lots of ideas here: Albums that shouldn't be out of print...

(Is this OK mods?)

Jamie T Smith, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 15:58 (eleven years ago) Permalink

This should be just fine. Foreseeing no problems.
Anybody got the new Fiery Furnaces yet?

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I've been trying to get hold of Konigsforst by Gas for ages, but it seems to go for around £50. Also the Loft box sets go for way too much for me.

Jamie T Smith, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:02 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I remember once seeing a brand new clean copy of Lick My Decals Off Baby. Everything about it was so mint, I thought it must be a bootleg and didn't bother since I already have a CD-R of it. That was a dumb move.

dean ge, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:03 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I'm trying to think of what I have to offer in return. Not much! I've only got the bootleg vinyl of 24-24 music, but I'd happily digitise that and put it on a CDR, if anyone wants it.

This is partly brought on by a failed hard drive, where I lost a few things that are quite hard to replace.

Jamie T Smith, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:09 (eleven years ago) Permalink

isn't the Throwing Muses debut out of print? i need it. how do i get it?

Surmounter, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"I remember once seeing a brand new clean copy of Lick My Decals Off Baby. Everything about it was so mint, I thought it must be a bootleg and didn't bother since I already have a CD-R of it. That was a dumb move."

I seem to recall reading somewhere (almost certainly at http://www.beefheart.com/ ) that there have been quite a few nice shiny new CD's of Decals floating about recently which are being purported to originate from (somewhere in Eastern Europe / FSU IIRC) but which are, in fact, bootlegs.

Stewart Osborne, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

For the purposes of this thread, bootlegs are fine. Just direct people to them ...

Jamie T Smith, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Thanks, Stewart. Yeah, I know it's got to be a bootleg, but it was probably worth the $9 vs. a CD-R from vinyl a friend made me. I don't know what I was thinking other than, "Ah, I don't really listen to it that much, anyway..." and perhaps refusing to buy counterfeit or something. Quick check of ebay shows nice thick vinyl bootlegs are available now for $12. Will this ever be officially reprinted?

dean ge, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Throwing Muses debut is on In A Doghouse, unless that's also OOP now.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

a couple of the loft reissues are going cheap at http://www.phonicarecords.co.uk

the 2 disc comp is pretty easy to find in the usual places

creme1, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

In the Long Still Night--Gallon Drunk

Anyone?

I can't believe that the Gas albums go for that kind of cash. They are great, but those prices are shocking.

Bill in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

In the Long Still Night--Gallon Drunk

Netsounds has it for $12 - http://www.netsoundsmusic.com/nsudsii/2/270741106/2060/2.html

Or are we only supposed to offer fileshares?

Mr. Odd, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 19:39 (eleven years ago) Permalink

would love for anyone to hook me up with CDRs of the nic jones records that are OOP (mentioned on the other thread). I could probably make it worth you while ...

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 19:51 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, that one is "currently not available." Thanks guys! List it, but don't actually stock it.

Otherwise, the record is going for 36$US and up.

Bill in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 20:17 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Would anyone happen to have Stevie Wonder's Where I'm Coming From?

The Reverend, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 21:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

the 2 disc comp is pretty easy to find in the usual places

I did get it off slsk, but lost it in hard drive meltdown and there always seem to be IMMENSE queues now.

Or are we only supposed to offer fileshares?

No, no. This is great. Links to sales, rumours of bootlegs and all that as well.

Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 26 July 2007 09:09 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"Will (Lick My Decals Off Baby) ever be officially reprinted?"

I have it on extremely good authority that Rhino had a special deluxe 2CD edition, with all thr relevant outtakes, and the instrumental version of the album etc., almost completed and ready to go several years ago - but then the employee responsible for it left before completing it and it's been sat on a shelf somewhere gathering dust ever since.

Stewart Osborne, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

What about Starsailor and Blue Afternoon? Any progress on those?

Jon Lewis, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Great thread idea.

I remember once seeing a brand new clean copy of Lick My Decals Off Baby. Everything about it was so mint, I thought it must be a bootleg and didn't bother since I already have a CD-R of it. That was a dumb move.

-- dean ge, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:03

I own one of the 180 Gram vinyl reish.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

My Lick My Decals is the whole album as one long mp3. It suffices for now.

Luckily I got the initial Starsailor CD before it became hen's teeth.

Jon Lewis, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, that one is "currently not available." Thanks guys! List it, but don't actually stock it.

What?! That link says they have one copy in stock!

Here's another that allegedly has it for $23:
http://www1.gemm.com/item/GALLON--DRUNK/IN--THE--LONG--STILL--NIGHT/GML481087722/

Now I feel obligated to track this down for you.

Mr. Odd, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I've got a ton of live concert recordings/bootlegs if anyone wants some (list here). Just email me or something.

All the oop stuff I have is easily available on OiNK and the like (Loop CD, etc) spare this one Alden Penner (ex-Unicorns) 7" I have that i'm sure nobody rly cares much about.

Stevie D, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i can upload the loft classics comp for you tonight if you like.

creme1, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Does anyone have anything by the Marbles?

roxymuzak, Thursday, 26 July 2007 20:27 (eleven years ago) Permalink

creme1 - that would be GREAT.

email me ja✧✧✧.s✧@gREATm✧✧✧.c✧✧ (without the REAT)

(Didn't see this till this morning)

Jamie T Smith, Friday, 27 July 2007 09:44 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Hmm - they have an email disguiser on nu-ilx.

That should be jamie.sm and you can guess the rest.

Jamie T Smith, Friday, 27 July 2007 09:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

All the oop stuff I have is easily available on OiNK and the like (Loop CD, etc)

You see all of that is a mystery to me. Hence this thread, I guess.

Jamie T Smith, Friday, 27 July 2007 10:03 (eleven years ago) Permalink

can anyone up the short tropicalia mix that was on the optimo site a couple of years back? thanks.

creme1, Friday, 27 July 2007 13:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

(upping that loft set now)

creme1, Friday, 27 July 2007 13:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

http://www.pielter.org/YSI/Images/YSI_Locations.gif

sanskrit, Friday, 27 July 2007 14:07 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Thanks! You guys rule. ILM is people helping people.

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 27 July 2007 14:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I got Blue Afternoon and Starsailor from the iTMS. Both are < $8US.

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 27 July 2007 14:17 (eleven years ago) Permalink

They can sell them on there? That's so weird... what kind of convoluted licensing is keeping them out of print then...?

Good to know that they're available to people, even in DRM form.

Jon Lewis, Friday, 27 July 2007 14:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

This month's Uncut's feature article, "The 50 Greatest Lost Albums." Albums that are not officially on sale or available as downloads qualify.

I have these on disc and/or flac:
Tim Buckley - Starsailor (1970) - This is actually available on iTunes, and Rhino will supposedly do a deluxe version of this and Blue afternoon (also have) by next year.
British Electronic Foundation - Music For Stowaways (1980)
The Pop Group - For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass Murder? (1980)
The Sound - From The Lion's Mouth (1981)
My Bloody Valentine - Ecstasy And Wine (1989)
Pauline Murray & The Invisible Girls (1980)
Big Black - Atomizer (1986)
Tom Waits - Night On Earth OST (1992)
Van Morrison - St. Dominic's Preview (1972)
Captain Beefheart & The Magic Band - Lick My Decals Off, Baby (1970)
Neil Young - Time Fades Away (1973)

Don't have:
Tin Machine - Tin Machine II (1991)
Bill Drummond - The Man (1986)
Lotion - Nobody's Cool (1995)
Buckingham Nicks (1973)
Sandy Bull - Demolition Derby (1972)
Richard & Linda Thompson - First Light (1978)
Eire Apparent - Sunrise (1969)
Frank Zappa & The Mothers - 200 Motels OST (1971)
Tav Falco's Panther Burns - The World We Knew (1987)
Adrian Henri, Roger McGough, & Andy Roberts - The Incredible New Liverpool Scene (1967)
The Searchers - Play For Today (1981)
Rainy Day (1984)
Eric Clapton & Michael Kamen - Edge Of Darkness OST (1985)
Dion - Wonder Where I'm Bound (1968)
Johnny Thunders - Hurt Me (1983)
Spring (1972)
Dave and Toni Arthur - Hearken To The Witches Rune (1970)
The Fall - The Marshall Suite (1999)
Various - Concerts For The People Of Kampuchea (1981)
Viv Stanshall - Men Opening Umbrellas Ahead (1974)
American Music Club - California (1987)
The Justified Ancients Of Mu Mu - 1987 (What The Fuck's Going On?)
Alex Chilton - Bach's Bottom (1981)
David Stoughton - Transformer (1968)
Jean Ritchie - None But One (1977)
New Kingdom - Paradise Don't Come Cheap (1996)
Jimmy Page - Death Wish II OST (1982)
Virginia Astley - From Gardens Where We Feel Secure (1983)
XTC - Apple Venus Vol 1 (1999)
The Who - Join Together (1990)
The Undisputed Truth (1971)
Paul Quinn & The Independent Group - The Phantoms & The Archetypes (1992)
Lal & Mike Waterson - Bright Phoebus (1972)
T-Bone Burnett - Truth Decay (1980)
Various Artists - Silver Meteor (1980)
John Cale - Music For A New Society (1982)
Sandy Denny & The Strawbs - All Our Own Work (1973)
Kraftwerk (1970)
Jonathan Richman & The Modern Lovers - It's Time For... (1986)
The Beatles - At The Hollywood Bowl (1977)

Dropbox gives you 2GB free space, where you can upload a zip file and make into a public link...

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 7 May 2010 02:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

Paul Quinn & The Independent Group - The Phantoms & The Archetypes (1992)

great LP this one, i have it, could upload later..

hell and the handbaskets (electricsound), Friday, 7 May 2010 02:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Apple Venus Vol. 1 is out of print??? wtf?

This is four-dimensional art; the 4th dimension is incredibly powerful. (Abbott), Friday, 7 May 2010 02:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

available exclusively in every used bin in every record store in the western world.

not having a luxury watch is terrible (unregistered), Friday, 7 May 2010 02:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

Van Morrison - St. Dominic's Preview (1972) - out of print? that seems weird ... great album.

tylerw, Friday, 7 May 2010 02:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Uh atomizer is totally available, it's all on rich mans 8 track (well except for one song that is kind of meh.

Samhain 69 (jjjusten), Friday, 7 May 2010 03:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

If anyone has any of the following out-of-print titles, and can get me an AIFF (tracks as they are on a normal CD, not MP3s or some loosy format) I would reward them with two similar out-of-print CD copies (per CD I got from them) from my collection.

Agnes Bernelle "Mother, The Wardrobe Is Full Of Infantrymen"
John Cale "Seducing Down The Door"
Cristina "Sleep It Off" (Ze reissue w/ bonus tracks)
LIzzy Mercier Desclous (pretty much any of the Ze label CD reissues)
The (English) Beat "BPM" (2cd version)
Brian Eno "Eno Box 2" and "Eno Box 1"
Exuma "Obeah Man, "Exuma II" and "Do Wah Nanny"
Flying Lizards "Top Ten"
The Fugs "Virgin Fugs"
Fun Boy Three "Live On The Test"
Good Missionaries "Fire From Heaven" (on the Vinyl Japan label)
Charles Hayward "Skew-Whiff," "Double Agents" and "Near & Far"
Victor Jara "1959-1969" (I think this is two CDs)
Dagmar Krause "Supply & Demand" and "Tank Battles" (eith German or English versions - preferably both!)
Nico "Hanging Gardens" and "Camera Obscura"
Pere Ubu "390 Degrees Of Stimulated Stereo" and "Cloudland" (reissue with bonus tracks)
Pigbag "BBC Sessions"
Pram "Helium"
Soft Cell "This Last Night In Sodom" (remaster w/ 16 tracks)
Talk Talk "London 1986"
Television Personalities "Fashion Conscious"
Teardrop Explodes "Zoology"
John Otway "Deep And Meaningless"
Dislocation Dance "Slip That Disc!" (Vinyl Japan version, not the LTM one)
Eyeless In Gaza "Orange Ice & Wax Crayons" and "Home Produce"
This Heat (that free CD that came with the box set if you were intelligent enough to pre-order, unlike me)
Richard & Linda Thompson "Shoot Out The Lights" (version w/ 9 songs)
Three Johns "Atom Drum Bop + The World By Storm"
Shirley Collins "Within Sound" (four CD box set) and "False True Lovers" both on the Fleg'ling label
Allen Toussaint "The Complete Warner Bros Recordings"
Was (Not Was) "The Woodwork Squeaks" (reissue on Ze)
Win "Uh! Tears Baby" & "Freaky Trigger"
Tom Zé "Grande Liquidacao"

also, quickly-deleted CDs from Metabolist, Max & Malcolm and the Pop Group (a 2xCD) that were on Vinyl Japan.

I have about half my collection (which is 11,000 CDs, so around 5500) posted here, if you want to browse for unavailable stuff (and ask me if there's anything you don't see.) It's all CD too, no files. I'd prefer to buy CDs, but what can you do when the stuff's impossible to find?

crustaceanrebel, Friday, 7 May 2010 03:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

A few of these titles can be found used, but not as consistently as you'd think. In Chicago the largest selection of used titles is offered by Reckless, spread between three stores -- no Apple Venus available, but there is one copy of Rich Man's. I've spent a lot of time rooting through the large inventories of Cheapos in the Twin Cities and Amoeba in SF during visits, and it's surprising how few items on my long want list I can find. Maybe smaller towns have selections that are less picked over? Dunno.

The Van Morrison reissue program started in 2008, haphazardly reissuing bare-bones versions (no bonus tracks, scant liner notes, but at least remastered) of his albums in no sort of chronological order. So we got a pile of his post-70s dreck, and then Veedon Fleece and Tupelo Honey, the latter of which did have two bonus tracks. The Morrison had a hissy fit over the company not properly promoting his latest crap album and pulled the plug on the reissues.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 7 May 2010 04:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

Been looking for good deals on any Cannanes material...

Also "Night Piece" by Shugo Tokumaru

Evan, Friday, 7 May 2010 04:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

xp crustaceanrebel - I PM'd the titles I have.

My wishlist:

Ambitious Lovers – Envy (EG) 84
Bad Manners – Loonee Tunes (Magnet) 80
– Klass (MCA) 83
The Blue Aeroplanes – Bop Art (Abstract UK) 84
Cabaret Voltaire – Extended Play EP (Rough Trade) 78
Clock DVA – Thirst (Contempo) 81
Close Lobsters – Headache Rhetoric (Fire) 89
Empire – Expensive Sound (Poorly Packaged Products) 80
Bill Fay (Decca Nova) 70
Feedtime (Aberrant) 85
– Shovel (Aberrant/Rough Trade) 88
Fingerprintz – The Very Dab (Virgin) 79
– Distinguishing Marks (Virgin) 80
– Beat Noir (Virgin) 81
The Full Experience – Aura Meets Scratch (Blue Moon) 79
Hackamore Brick – One Kiss Leads To Another (Kama Sutra) 70
Richie P. Havens, 1983 (Verve) 69
Human Switchboard – Who’s Landing In My Hangar? (IRS) 81
The Jazz Butcher – Sex And Travel (Glass UK) 85
Steve Mancha – Detroit Soulman
Modern Eon – Fiction Tales (Din Disc) 81
The Motors – Approved By the Motors (Virgin) 78
Mutiny – Mutiny On The Mothership (CBS) 79
The Neats (Ace Of Hearts) 83
Fred Neil (Captiol) 67
Michel Pagliaro – Time Race (Audiogram) 77
Pink Military – Buddha Walking Disney Sleeping EP (Last Trumpet) 79
Psychic TV – Force The Hand Of Change (Some Bizarre)
Rip Rig + Panic – I Am Cold (Virgin) 81
– Attitude (Virgin) 82
Melvin Van Peebles – Brer Soul 68
James Blood Ulmer - Tales Of Captain Black 78
Jo Jo Zep & The Falcons – Screaming Targets (CBS) 79

I also have a list of reissues that I feel exceed my budget, including I Am the Cosmos ($40), the 3CD Disintegration, Died Pretty - Doughboy Hollow ($30), Joe Meek box, Wilson Pickett - Funky Midnight Movers: The Atlantic Studio Recordings 1962-78 ($100) and The Complete Motown Singles, Volumes 1-11. I'll probably buy the Pickett, but the Motown stuff is daunting at well over a thousand for the whole thing.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 7 May 2010 06:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

Also, Reggae Albums In Need of Reissue

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 7 May 2010 06:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Fastnbulbous - of those you list, I have:

Bob Andy - Song Book
Herman Chin Loy - Aquarius Dub
Culture - Harder Than The Rest
The Jolly Brothers - Conscious Man
Sugar Minott - Showcase
Augustus Pablo - This Is ..... Augustus Pablo (Rebel Rock Reggae)
Prince Far I - Message From The King
Linval Thompson - I Love Marijuana
Willi Williams - Armagideon Time

also, the Bill Fay, the Motors, Fred Neil, Cabaret Voltaire, the Joe Meek box (I assume you mean the "Portrait Of A Genius" 4xCD box) and possibly a few others.

All of it's on CD, but some of it - like the Cabaret Voltaire and Fred Neil - is complete but contains more than simply the records you mention.

I'll e-mail you, but now I've got to sleep!

crustaceanrebel, Friday, 7 May 2010 06:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

In Chicago the largest selection of used titles is offered by Reckless,

ah ha !
ta for the tip off. during june i am supposed to be spending 3 weeks in that fine city, so will hunt these places down.

mark e, Friday, 7 May 2010 07:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

Captain Beefheart & The Magic Band - Lick My Decals Off, Baby (1970)

actually this IS available for purchase on LP, just not on CD. for some reason.

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 7 May 2010 07:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

also wtf so much of this stuff you can get on vinyl for almost nothing. folks.

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 7 May 2010 07:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

(don't know if you just wanted a download or ... )

tylerw, Thursday, 9 September 2010 20:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

lindus by the shadow ring (don't have a rec player, never been issued on cd)

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 9 September 2010 21:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

Thanks Tyler! Yeah, I was looking for the vinyl bootleg copy, but nice to get it on my iTunes nevertheless. Cheers!

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 9 September 2010 22:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Was there ever a version of Prince - Lovesexy on CD that wasn't just one long track?

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 10 September 2010 00:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

I have it on extremely good authority that Rhino had a special deluxe 2CD edition, with all thr relevant outtakes, and the instrumental version of the album etc., almost completed and ready to go several years ago - but then the employee responsible for it left before completing it and it's been sat on a shelf somewhere gathering dust ever since.

― Stewart Osborne, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:25 (3 years ago)

so sad.

sleeve, Friday, 10 September 2010 02:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

(re: Lick My Decals Off Baby)

sleeve, Friday, 10 September 2010 02:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

fastnbulbous: there were tracked lovesexy discs that were released to radio stations. they used to be major ebay collector's items; now that you can just burn the disc and track it yourself, somewhat less so.

Gulab jamun (Gulab Jamun) into the syrup please. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 September 2010 04:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

If anyone out there is getting rid of Further - Sometimes Chimes 2xLP please let me know.

I will always think of you, while (quite) fondly, myself (Evan), Friday, 10 September 2010 05:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

Was directed here from a friend, and I just have to say - Ned Ragget doesn't have his facts straight re. Lotion's "Around." Rasputina did not do the string arrangement. They just played it.

ursaminorjim, Friday, 10 September 2010 06:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

I guess I'll have to track Lovesexy myself, as I have had no luck finding it.

Now than the Captain is gone, I wonder if it will be harder or easier to license more reissues. I can't believe no one at Rhino cares to complete that Decals edition.

I'm looking for these in lossless:

Colour Haze - Co2 (2000)
Colour Haze - Ewidge Blumenkraft (2001)

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 5 March 2011 00:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Guided By Voices - Carry-On: Left Overs & Side Dishes
Tobin Sprout - Wax Nails
Lilys - Send In The Subs
Ecstasy of Saint Theresa - Free-D

Evan, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 15:00 (six years ago) Permalink

evan check yr. email

nerve_pylon, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 15:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Thanks nerve!!

Evan, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 15:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Format is fine by the way!
Not to get greedy, but is it possible that you have the Popstram 7" digitally as well?

Thanks again

Evan, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 15:36 (six years ago) Permalink

well, i have the Fig. 4 reissue, and that includes two excellent tracks from Popstram... i also have Fly Ashtray's Clumps Takes a Ride lp, if you need that. let me know.

nerve_pylon, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 16:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh it does, how about that.

That would be very awesome of you, thanks! Fly Ashtray, too!

I suspect I would have fun digging through your collection.

Evan, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 18:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Thanks again! So grateful

Evan, Thursday, 27 September 2012 04:15 (six years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Not sure if this the best existing thread to put this on, but Amoeba is now digitizing rare out-of-print vinyl and selling it via their website:

http://www.amoeba.com/music/vinyl-vaults/#page-1

Requisite moral agonizing here:

http://www.cringely.com/2012/12/04/amoeba-musics-vinyl-vaults-is-no-napster-despite-what-musicians-say/

o. nate, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 22:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Cool to see a mention of the Amoeba Vinyl Vaults project here. I (cough) have some first-hand knowledge of the venture (cough).

FunkyTonk, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 01:20 (six years ago) Permalink

If you can find it on iTunes it probably won’t be on Amoeba’s Vinyl Vaults.

If you can find it on iTunes it really fucking shouldn't be on Amoeba’s Vinyl Vaults.

That symptom is fucking my wife (stevie), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 11:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Huh! Tempted to get the soundtrack to Windwalker.

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Music From "In Search Of" !!!!

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:01 (six years ago) Permalink

i dont want to start off the same argument again but "hey if you want to get paid just go ahead and contact us and negotiate the deal, because we cant be bothered to make that effort in the midst of making money on your music" sounds like grade a bullshit to me.

i dream of booze pinata (jjjusten), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:10 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah no shit

the purpose driven trife (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:17 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah i don't get it - this is kind of like a rare/oop albums blog but they're charging real money?

tylerw, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Usually bootleggers go to some effort to conceal their identity.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:25 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm assuming the old stuff (1920s/30s) is public domain? but the newer stuff is ... what? not that i can imagine them making TONS of money off of a lot this, but still...

tylerw, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Anything before 1923 is public domain. The rest is not, as I understand it.

This is weird, I can see both sides of it. Kind of like if Google Book started scanning books and charging for them to read/download the whole thing. . .kind of nice to have that stuff available though. and they are doing the right thing by offering to take down stuff if copyright holders contact them.

beef richards (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Is it a Sublime Frequencies type thing where they are like 'we tried to find these dudes but couldn't'?

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:39 (six years ago) Permalink

pretty sure finding thelonious monks rights holders wouldn't be terribly hard

i dream of booze pinata (jjjusten), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:41 (six years ago) Permalink

that could be some weird thing where the label owns the rights or something, and all of the label people are dead. just spitballin

beef richards (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:43 (six years ago) Permalink

those would be legal in Europe, but not here iirc

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:44 (six years ago) Permalink

hope some of that $15 million dollar investment they made in this is what we in the industry like to call "getting sued money"

i dream of booze pinata (jjjusten), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:45 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, a lot of the jazz stuff looks like it comes from sketcho european reissue labels. i don't know, i don't understand how any of this works.

tylerw, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:45 (six years ago) Permalink

oh man that's one of those weird italian bootlegs, that's kinda shitty

http://www.amoeba.com/ajax/album_photos.php?id=839958&photo=3

beef richards (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:46 (six years ago) Permalink

tbf i don't think it's sketcho to have a 50 year copyright rule and release CDs based on that, if you're a European label and you do your transfers with care. 50 yr rule has been an amazing thing for classical, for instance.

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:47 (six years ago) Permalink

but i know what you mean a lot of these labels are total algae eaters

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:48 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, i've certainly got plenty of sketcho euro label jazz reissues, just because the prices are hard to beat.

tylerw, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:52 (six years ago) Permalink

some of them have better sound quality than any of the US-legit releases. I am thinking of Mancini's OST for Touch Of Evil.

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:53 (six years ago) Permalink

ubuweb does an awesome service, & treats a lot of copyright law as irrelevant, which is like ... at least ontologically valid, imo. but ubuweb goes nowhere near money: no banner ads, no 'donate' box, no access charge, hosted on donated webspace (which isn't utterly devoid of politics, some coming from publicly funded institutions, &c, but y'know). i can sympathise with running a "let's energise the public domain" kinda operation that makes widely available stuff that's already illicitly or obscurely available, that treats "out of print" as a valid endpoint of commercial rights, & even tries to cover some of the costs involved. but just straight up selling stuff & leapfrogging some of those what-are-they-building-in-there questions feels like too much of a jump.

spottieottiespanakopita (schlump), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:54 (six years ago) Permalink

I appreciate what they are doing.The sound is great. It's a bit weird that there is Leadbelly, Louis Armstrong, Moe Koffmann etc on there.I wouldn't go to this site for them anyway. But if you are into garage music, girl groups, old folk stuff, proto punk or any of those genres that are served by long series of compilation cds, this has been the business model for decades. You think everyone on the Killed by Death, Back From The Grave, Girls With Guitars or the That'll Flat Git It comps got paid? My guess is that even if the copyright holder was tracked down it would be unusual that the actual artists received a penny. Not to mention that the profits would be pretty slim anyway.

everything, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:00 (six years ago) Permalink

this is interesting, not really sure how I feel about it yet

Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:15 (six years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Can someone hook me up with the Kid 606 remix of "Straight Outta Compton"?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 17:00 (four years ago) Permalink

do you just need it digitally or do you want the 7"?

chopper back (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 17:05 (four years ago) Permalink

an mp3 would be swell

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 17:09 (four years ago) Permalink

do you have an email you want me to send it to?

chopper back (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 17:27 (four years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

Anyone have 15-60-75's "Among The Wandering" on MP3?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 9 March 2018 03:27 (nine months ago) Permalink


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