i think this could be stevie nicks' worst contributions to any record she's been involved with imo
i wonder how many of the people who voted for "welcome.." are mixing it up with "sara" from tusk
― surfin on my face (electricsound), Sunday, 6 September 2009 05:07 (fourteen years ago) link
" "caroline" in particular deserves more love"
this is spot on.
My issue with "Welcome To The Room... Sara" is that it sounds like a parody song, like something from that French & Saunders send up of Fleetwood Mac. It actively undermines all of Stevie's signature tricks. "When Will I See You" is merely weak.
Nicks' songs are amazingly strong on Say You Will, but then I've not heard the stuff she's done between the two albums.
― Tim F, Sunday, 6 September 2009 10:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Like Bella Donna, Trouble in Shangri-La, etc? If you like Nicks, you'll love the albums, but outside maybe one or two tracks (Nomad, maybe?) nothing really knock-out there.
― Mordy, Sunday, 6 September 2009 10:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I know Bella Donna, The Wild Heart and Rock Little, just none after that.
But then I rarely listen to those ones much. What's interesting about Nicks is that she really does work so well as a group player, even though her songwriting style would never suggest it. The half of Say You Will she contributes is possibly as much Nicks as I'd really want in one sitting.
― Tim F, Sunday, 6 September 2009 10:29 (fourteen years ago) link
CAROLINE
― wilter, Thursday, 3 June 2010 10:22 (thirteen years ago) link
all the "ooh ah"s in "big love" are still bizarre
― kamerad, Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Seven Wonders is pretty good, deserved a vote imo.
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes "Everywhere" is brilliant. I was very annoyed when someone made a swirly house-pop cover version
Tiiiiiiim, who did this?
― mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
think i've heard it
basically they looped bits of it so it's longer and added some helpful echoes
― truff sqwad (history mayne), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link
theres def a balearic disco edit that jaxon posted on the noize board FM thread iirc.
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link
You've all heard this, I hope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9ovcZKmMpw
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
There is no way the Little Lies voters have heard the whole thing.
― Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
jeez al i didnt know you thought honey hi was a dud
― max, Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link
feel like i dont even know you and i cant trust your opinion anymore
you talkin' to me?
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9zbCuD1ulA
???
― Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Duds on Tusk: "Honey Hi" (McVie), "Angel" (Nicks), "I Know I'm Not Wrong" (Buckingham)
Duds on Mirage: "Straight Back" (Nicks), "Wish You Were Here" (McVie), "Empire State" (Buckingham).
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:47 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― max, Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh yeah, I'll still stand by that.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link
h8 you
― max, Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link
HONEY HOOO-NEY HI
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link
No sacred cows stand in the way of McChallops.
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
stfu and listen to the "Seven Wonders" 12", heathens.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
how did seven wonders get 0 votes and mystified get only 1??
― Future_Perfect (LOLK), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link
The correct question: how did "Welcome to the Room....Sara" get seven votes?
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Late to thread but I gotta agree with Tim above about "Oh Diane" being more of a dud than "Empire State" - I get what he's trying to do with it but it's still one of my least favourite Mac songs ever, whereas I really quite like "Empire State" even while realizing it's not top-drawer. But y'know, it's all taste.
Probably a good thing that I never voted on this because I realized that I've only ever heard the singles here. I really should get me a copy of the full album - I think I've given up on Rhino actually bringing out Mirage and Tango in their reissue series, what with the long gap since the first batch.
― Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link
TITN is their best seller post-Rumours too.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah that song is such a chore
― Future_Perfect (LOLK), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link
A+ 4Eva: "Caroline", "Everywhere", "Isn't It Midnight"A: "Seven Wonders", "Big Love", "Tango In The Night", "You & I"A-: "Little Lies", "Mystified"B: "Family Man"...D-: "When I See You Again"...F: "Welcome to the Room... Sara"
― Tim F, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link
"isn't it midnight" is the only one i can't remember how it goes
all the arthur baker club mixes that came with the 12" singles are solid gold
― fuckd and bombd (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link
"family man" is the underrated gem on this album. such a simple song packed with so many little details. and lindsay's flamenco guitar solos are immense
― fuckd and bombd (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link
the cover art for this album is just so perfect
― just sayin, Friday, 11 February 2011 09:10 (thirteen years ago) link
you know EXACTLY what its going to sound like
just sayin.
― ouroboros shoal (diamonddave85), Friday, 11 February 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIn-pUYMBg4
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 February 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Just got around to listening to some "Tango" demos, and man, is Stevie's "Joan Of Arc" weird/spooky. Destroyer could /should cover this.
Here's the demo:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Ocjnf7Tng&feature=watch_response_rev
And here's the "finished" version:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9btTlkvIP9c
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Love this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtTh_MGXIZg
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:31 (twelve years ago) link
"mystified" is the sleeper on this album
― missingNO, Friday, 5 August 2011 13:02 (twelve years ago) link
I cannot believe nobody voted for Seven Wonders or Isn't It Midnight! The super-urgent guitar outra on the latter is a one-way ticket to Lindsey heaven.
― Clarke B., Friday, 5 August 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
^^^^^^ Absolutely. Under the circumstances everyone who voted for "Welcome to the room... Sara" should be shot and killed. I don't care if they were joke votes.
― Tim F, Friday, 5 August 2011 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
FRONT LINE BABEEEE
― livin in my own private Biden hole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 August 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
is there a version of that everywhere demo longer than 1:17?
― caek, Saturday, 6 August 2011 01:46 (twelve years ago) link
such crazy results, 'welcome to the room... sara' is a pretty bad song almost made good by producer-lindsey's insistence that it be good, but why vote for it when you could have 'seven wonders', an okay song almost made amazing by producer-lindsey's insistence? also, poor 'family man'. i heard it dropped in the middle of a nu-disco set a while back and it was somehow perfect.
― Perfect Chicken Forever (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 20 October 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link
"Seven Wonders" is classic Lindsey playing Capn Save a Stevie.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 October 2012 12:16 (eleven years ago) link
Finally got round to actually checking this out properly. Other than the big hits, I love the title track the best.
― pssstttt, Hey you (dog latin), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
family man rules and deserves some epic balearic remix
― ryan, Saturday, 28 September 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link
this does a decent job of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrLRzxYq4Z8
― opie dead eyed piece of shit (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
Great interview. I knew of course about Nicks at Betty Ford and Lindsey chasing her around the house after he announced he was leaving but apparently it was still all rather mad.
Fleetwood says that he and Nicks were doing more cocaine during the making of Tango than when they were recording Rumours — an album on which they seriously considered thanking their drug dealer in the credits. “Actually” he admits, “it was way worse on Tango In The Night. For sure.”
Certainly , I smoked a lot of pot. But I was never a big user of coke,” Buckingham notes. And by the mid-80s, he’d had enough. ” The subculture was pretty much at the point of burning itself out,” he recalled. “The ‘anything goes’ attitude that existed in the 60s had become something entirely different. But still, everyone thought you had to do certain things to play, and I don’t know that I ever thought about it that way.”
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 February 2014 00:50 (ten years ago) link
ooh
― föllakzoidberg (electricsound), Monday, 3 February 2014 00:52 (ten years ago) link
The Ken Caillat book divided the band into a pot side and a coke side, with Buckingham sticking mostly to pot and Nicks and Mick to coke (Christine strikes me as pot; John, of course, was all about alcohol). Stevie had it worst, reportedly, because she had so little to do in the studio and was basically left alone to take all the drugs, coke, pot, whatever.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 February 2014 15:08 (ten years ago) link
I don't think there's any other band in history that makes me simultaneously think "man, I would have loved to be in this band" and "man, I'm glad I was never in this band" more than Fleetwood Mac.
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Monday, 3 February 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link