Tango in the Night POLL (Fleetwood Mac)

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The correct question: how did "Welcome to the Room....Sara" get seven votes?

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Late to thread but I gotta agree with Tim above about "Oh Diane" being more of a dud than "Empire State" - I get what he's trying to do with it but it's still one of my least favourite Mac songs ever, whereas I really quite like "Empire State" even while realizing it's not top-drawer. But y'know, it's all taste.

Probably a good thing that I never voted on this because I realized that I've only ever heard the singles here. I really should get me a copy of the full album - I think I've given up on Rhino actually bringing out Mirage and Tango in their reissue series, what with the long gap since the first batch.

Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

TITN is their best seller post-Rumours too.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

The correct question: how did "Welcome to the Room....Sara" get seven votes?

yeah that song is such a chore

Future_Perfect (LOLK), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

A+ 4Eva: "Caroline", "Everywhere", "Isn't It Midnight"
A: "Seven Wonders", "Big Love", "Tango In The Night", "You & I"
A-: "Little Lies", "Mystified"
B: "Family Man"
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D-: "When I See You Again"
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F: "Welcome to the Room... Sara"

Tim F, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link

"isn't it midnight" is the only one i can't remember how it goes

all the arthur baker club mixes that came with the 12" singles are solid gold

fuckd and bombd (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link

"family man" is the underrated gem on this album. such a simple song packed with so many little details. and lindsay's flamenco guitar solos are immense

fuckd and bombd (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

the cover art for this album is just so perfect

just sayin, Friday, 11 February 2011 09:10 (thirteen years ago) link

you know EXACTLY what its going to sound like

just sayin, Friday, 11 February 2011 09:10 (thirteen years ago) link

just sayin.

ouroboros shoal (diamonddave85), Friday, 11 February 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIn-pUYMBg4

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 February 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Just got around to listening to some "Tango" demos, and man, is Stevie's "Joan Of Arc" weird/spooky. Destroyer could /should cover this.

Here's the demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Ocjnf7Tng&feature=watch_response_rev

And here's the "finished" version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9btTlkvIP9c

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

Love this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtTh_MGXIZg

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:31 (twelve years ago) link

"mystified" is the sleeper on this album

missingNO, Friday, 5 August 2011 13:02 (twelve years ago) link

I cannot believe nobody voted for Seven Wonders or Isn't It Midnight! The super-urgent guitar outra on the latter is a one-way ticket to Lindsey heaven.

Clarke B., Friday, 5 August 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

^^^^^^ Absolutely. Under the circumstances everyone who voted for "Welcome to the room... Sara" should be shot and killed. I don't care if they were joke votes.

Tim F, Friday, 5 August 2011 23:30 (twelve years ago) link

FRONT LINE BABEEEE

livin in my own private Biden hole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 August 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link

is there a version of that everywhere demo longer than 1:17?

caek, Saturday, 6 August 2011 01:46 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

such crazy results, 'welcome to the room... sara' is a pretty bad song almost made good by producer-lindsey's insistence that it be good, but why vote for it when you could have 'seven wonders', an okay song almost made amazing by producer-lindsey's insistence? also, poor 'family man'. i heard it dropped in the middle of a nu-disco set a while back and it was somehow perfect.

Perfect Chicken Forever (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 20 October 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link

"Seven Wonders" is classic Lindsey playing Capn Save a Stevie.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 October 2012 12:16 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

Finally got round to actually checking this out properly. Other than the big hits, I love the title track the best.

pssstttt, Hey you (dog latin), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

six months pass...

family man rules and deserves some epic balearic remix

ryan, Saturday, 28 September 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link

this does a decent job of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrLRzxYq4Z8

opie dead eyed piece of shit (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

Great interview. I knew of course about Nicks at Betty Ford and Lindsey chasing her around the house after he announced he was leaving but apparently it was still all rather mad.

Fleetwood says that he and Nicks were doing more cocaine during the making of Tango than when they were recording Rumours — an album on which they seriously considered thanking their drug dealer in the credits. “Actually” he admits, “it was way worse on Tango In The Night. For sure.”

Certainly , I smoked a lot of pot. But I was never a big user of coke,” Buckingham notes. And by the mid-80s, he’d had enough. ” The subculture was pretty much at the point of burning itself out,” he recalled. “The ‘anything goes’ attitude that existed in the 60s had become something entirely different. But still, everyone thought you had to do certain things to play, and I don’t know that I ever thought about it that way.”

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 February 2014 00:50 (ten years ago) link

ooh

föllakzoidberg (electricsound), Monday, 3 February 2014 00:52 (ten years ago) link

The Ken Caillat book divided the band into a pot side and a coke side, with Buckingham sticking mostly to pot and Nicks and Mick to coke (Christine strikes me as pot; John, of course, was all about alcohol). Stevie had it worst, reportedly, because she had so little to do in the studio and was basically left alone to take all the drugs, coke, pot, whatever.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 February 2014 15:08 (ten years ago) link

I don't think there's any other band in history that makes me simultaneously think "man, I would have loved to be in this band" and "man, I'm glad I was never in this band" more than Fleetwood Mac.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Monday, 3 February 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link

(would have voted for 'Everywhere', btw.)

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Monday, 3 February 2014 21:20 (ten years ago) link

I'm ecstatic that my predictions about this album displacing Tusk as influence have come true, with Classixx doing "Seven Wonders" 12-inch song right

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 February 2014 21:27 (ten years ago) link

I feel the urge to listen to Tango In The Night right now. I'm going to give into that urge, dammit.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Monday, 3 February 2014 21:38 (ten years ago) link

Christine kills on this album

Master of Treacle, Monday, 3 February 2014 21:41 (ten years ago) link

The fact that Everywhere didn't win this in an almost embarassing landslide makes me think I should probably listen to the rest of the album. Will do in a moment.

Frederik B, Monday, 3 February 2014 21:42 (ten years ago) link

i would def put this on before Tusk in 2014

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Monday, 3 February 2014 21:48 (ten years ago) link

I'm ecstatic that my predictions about this album displacing Tusk as influence have come true, with Classixx doing "Seven Wonders" 12-inch song right

― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, February 3, 2014 9:27 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sorta feel like this has been true for some time now, especially on the balearic-meets-So end of indie: A Mountain of One stealing the groove of "Caroline", Yeasayer and VW's second albums etc.

Actually a comp of contemporary stuff that takes its cues from Tango would be fun to put together.

Tim F, Monday, 3 February 2014 22:01 (ten years ago) link

Fine source material to be found here: Examples of Fleetwood Mac worship in bands from 2000-present.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 February 2014 22:02 (ten years ago) link

God, 'Caroline' is awful...

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Monday, 3 February 2014 22:04 (ten years ago) link

Destroyer has covered Everywhere, Vampire Weekend has covered Everywhere, apparantly Haim has acknowledged the influence of Everywhere on their music. Everywhere is awesome. As is the rest of the album, it seems, so far.

Frederik B, Monday, 3 February 2014 22:05 (ten years ago) link

Those lung-busting long notes on the title track, though! Sublime.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Monday, 3 February 2014 22:06 (ten years ago) link

def A Mountain of One, Haim, and Dawn Richard, don't hear it in Contra so much, although I'd love to read where you do!

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 February 2014 22:06 (ten years ago) link

Vampire Weekend has LITERALLY covered Everywhere.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 February 2014 22:07 (ten years ago) link

Fleetwood's drumming on the title track is fabulous.

I'm pretty sure "Caroline" and "Family Man" are Buck solo tracks, i.e. no other band members on them.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 February 2014 22:07 (ten years ago) link

God, 'Caroline' is awful...

― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Monday, February 3, 2014 4:04 PM (2 minutes ago)

WHAT

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Monday, 3 February 2014 22:08 (ten years ago) link

Man, does Nicks' voice sound fucked on 'When I See You Again'. I suppose it adds a cracked vulnerability to the track, but it sounds croaky as all hell.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Monday, 3 February 2014 22:26 (ten years ago) link

WHASSA MATTA BABEE

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 February 2014 22:26 (ten years ago) link

Hahahaha... I'd forgotten how much the groove on 'You and I' reminded me of 'Agadoo'.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Monday, 3 February 2014 22:28 (ten years ago) link

In the interview I linked Nicks insists the idea of letting Buck take over the song was intentional; I dunno. To me it sounds like she had two minutes of material and he had to flesh it out on his own.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 February 2014 22:28 (ten years ago) link

7 votes for "welcome to the room sara"? that's like the one song on this one i cant stand!

diamonddave85‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌ (diamonddave85), Monday, 3 February 2014 22:31 (ten years ago) link

oooh
missionary

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 February 2014 22:31 (ten years ago) link

In the interview I linked Nicks insists the idea of letting Buck take over the song was intentional; I dunno. To me it sounds like she had two minutes of material and he had to flesh it out on his own.

― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, February 3, 2014 10:28 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, that's what I thought from listening to it again. It sounded as if she'd recorded the vocal up to a point and Lindsey was like "well, Stevie's not around and we have to finish this track, so..."

Thing is, I actually really don't mind the song. I just think the vocal isn't up to snuff and could have been so much better... but it's kinda obvious why it is the way it is.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Monday, 3 February 2014 22:36 (ten years ago) link

I might be wrong but the last bit of anarchy in "Isn't It Midnight" sounds like an excellent attempt to lengthen the song (and he gets cowriting credit).

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 February 2014 22:39 (ten years ago) link


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