Is Milli Vanilli a fraud?

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They sure got me fooled!

nathalie, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

they really DID write and record all their own songs but they knew they would get more credibility from eg pervy fules like me by claiming they didn't

mark s, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Milla Vanilli are actually Fugazi.

Nick Southall, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Never pay more than $8 for any Milli Vanilli album.

Curt, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

What would happen if they were "found out" today? Would it still ruin them? I'd love it if this sort of controversy happened to a band now!

Mark, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

This is not a MILLI VANILLA THREAD.

Brian MacDonald, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Sadly in todays troubled times I don't think anyone would actually care if it was found out that an 'artist' didn't actually sing or write any of their own music.

All the pop crap around today is so heavily engineered that it may as well have been sung by an drunken scottish pensioner with throat cancer.

Andrew, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

that is so cool: what's his name andrew?

mark s, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Having heard drunken Scottish pensioners singing all too frequently I'd hesitate to say it was cool.

Billy Dods, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

yes billy but in today's brilliant times technology makes them sound like MILLI VANILLI!!

mark s, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I know him - his name is 'Rab'. Of course. He's actually Fugazi.

Nick Southall, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

John Martyn?

dave q, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

It's not Milli Vanilli that is a fraud. It's pop music that is.

Julio Desouza, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I never understood the whole Milli Vanilli controversy. Jerry Hall doesn't sing on Sirens, that's not Mick Jagger on the cover of Sticky Fingers, the Archies didn't jump up from out of the pages of comic books and sing "Sugar Sugar" and Alicia Silverstone isn't in Aerosmith. If yr dumb enough to buy a record solely based on what the cover looks like, or who's dancing in the video, you get what you deserve.

Vic Funk, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I had heard a rumor that Milli Vanilli played a end-of-tour FORT RENO show with Fugazi. Coincedence?

Gage-o, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

nath: even the shuttlecocks????

dbini, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

milli vanilli were the product of the genetic bifurcation of Bobby Farrell. this makes them not fraud, but scientific spectacle. unfortunately, the cloning process left them both underdeveloped in the nudger department, prompting the use of the shuttlecocks-in- spandex method of visual enhancement. something bobby f would never have a problem with http://dvolpin.teleradiostereo.it/boney_m.jpg

dbini, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

nath: even the shuttlecocks????
Question Nath and the Mysterians. Dude, wachootalkenabbott?

nathalie, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

the biggest outrage in the uk tabloid press was not when milli vanilli got caught out by a tape malfunction at a 'live' gig, but when they admitted to placing shuttlecocks in their underpants for performances. they sure got you fooled???

dbini, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Where are you supposed to place shuttlecocks?

???, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Good luck defending *that* one, Julio.

Clarke B., Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks, Clarke, I'll need it.

Julio Desouza, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...
Shuttlecocks?!

Lela, Tuesday, 12 October 2004 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Alicia Silverstone is not in Aerosmith?!?!?!?!?!?!

Taxi Dancing in the Soft Prison (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

LMAO@the shuttlecocks. With all the negative press and jokes made about them, I'm surprised I didn't hear about that one.

Lela, Tuesday, 12 October 2004 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

woof

Rolf, Thursday, 14 October 2004 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Shuttlecocks:= being ironic about Wham.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 15 October 2004 09:18 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Not to long ago I dreamed I had sex with the dead one. He was alive in the dream, though.

Tristin, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Milla Vanilli are actually Fugazi.
lol

Last night I dreamed I had sex with an ex-gf. At least it was supposed to be her, except that it didn't look like her, y'know? Anyhow, she was also alive in the dream. She's also alive IRL. Yeah.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, Tristin, was he wearing shuttlecocks in the dream?

Lela, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I think a lot of the pop divas of today could learn a lot about them. People can't even lyp synch right anymore. How frighteningly rockist of me.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

learn a lot from them, even.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Wearing shuttlecocks? no, why?

Tristin, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

"Musically, we are more talented than any Bob Dylan. Musically, we are more talented than Paul McCartney. Mick Jagger, his lines are not clear. He don't know how he should produce a sound.

Leelee, Thursday, 25 November 2004 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

"Musically, we are more talented than any Bob Dylan. Musically, we are more talented than Paul McCartney. Mick Jagger, his lines are not clear. He don't know how he should produce a sound. I'm the new modern rock-n-roll. I'm the new Elvis." - Rob Pilatus

Leelee, Thursday, 25 November 2004 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

balls

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 25 November 2004 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Classic example of Rockism in the media. People get offended because they were "decieved" into thinking these guys actually sang their own songs. After a big scandal the duo is replaced by the "REAL" (really boring) Milli Vannilli who sold like 3 copies.

daavid (daavid), Thursday, 25 November 2004 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe we can go as far as saying that Rockism killed Rob Pilatos.

daavid (daavid), Thursday, 25 November 2004 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

If you think about it, only people who watched the videos, saw them perform live or televised were defrauded. If you heard their unremarkable-but-inoffensive songs on the radio, liked 'em & bought the album, you got exactly what you wanted, and expected. And so what if they appeared on their album cover but not the album itself? Roxy Music useta plaster their album covers with scantily-clad females who didn't contribute a damn thing musically & nobody minded!

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 25 November 2004 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah and even if you watch the videos, what is wrong with the fact that you're not actually listening to the voices of those 2 cool (or not) looking guys? George Michael did the same with supermodels in his "Freedom" video; but he got away with it because he was not 'decieving' anybody. Actually this happened when he was trying to be more legitimate by not profiting on his own looks. WTF?

I personally think that in art (or entertainment), any effort to make what you are presenting more appealing is valid. The idea that "the artist" should be doing everything is absurd.

daavid (daavid), Thursday, 25 November 2004 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

C & C Music Factory, Blackbox, and some other bands also had someone other than the singer appearing in the videos and on the album covers so I didn't understand why there was such a big scandal over the MV thing.

Leelee, Friday, 26 November 2004 03:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Wasn't it really George Michael who stuffed shuttlecocks down his shorts? I think I remember hearing something about that on Vh-1.

Stacy, Friday, 26 November 2004 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, that was him.

Leelee, Saturday, 27 November 2004 00:01 (seventeen years ago) link

If you think about it, only people who watched the videos, saw them perform live or televised were defrauded.

I went to a Milli Vanilli / Paula Abdul concert at a local amusement park at the height of "Girl You Know It's True" / "Blame it on the Rain" mania. I felt in no way defrauded. I distinctly remember thinking at the time that Paula Abdul was lip-synching but that MV were the real deal. When the whole scandal unfolded I was quite angered and annoyed at all of the people who returned their CDs (mine must still linger somewhere at my parent's house). I was quite confused why those songs which were so ubiquitous and catchy at the time were simply discarded overnight. I fully expected the actual songwriters and performers to suddenly become famous but I guess the proper American response was to drive the poor dancing frontmen to suicide.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Saturday, 27 November 2004 04:47 (seventeen years ago) link

The Milli Vanilli thing was such an issue partly because it gave comedians something new to make fun of. Didn't the big revelation happen while Milli Vanilli were at the height of their Best New Artist Grammy-winning popularity?

By now it's well-known that Roger McGuinn was the only Byrd to actually play anything on the early Byrds hits and that band is in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. It's moderately well-known that Kiss albums were loaded with uncredited session musicians playing even the most basic parts and that their hyped reunion album only featured all four guys on, like, two songs. And that's not even mentioning Kiss's notoriously doctored live albums (and aren't most of the classic rock live albums overdubbed and doctored all over?). But those bands are past their prime so it's not an issue that's gonna make the news.

Poisoned, Saturday, 27 November 2004 06:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I remember Arsenio Hall and In Living Color used to make fun of them a lot.

Leelee, Saturday, 27 November 2004 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, I remember that, too. The Do It Yourself Milli Vanilli Kit, including 2 mops, colored contacts, spandex shorts (to give you positive energy), and tapes of Boris and Natasha, Elmer Fudd, Pepe Le Pew, and other cartoon characters, to perfect the accents.

Wayans: "So get a friend, 'cause it takes two jerks to be Milli Vanilli. And remember..."

(Both running in place): "Don't Forget Our Number!"

Marcus, Saturday, 27 November 2004 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

C & C Music Factory, Blackbox, and some other bands also had someone other than the singer appearing in the videos and on the album covers so I didn't understand why there was such a big scandal over the MV thing.

C & C and Black Box shared an uncredited singer, Martha Wash (of The Weather Girls "It's Raining Men" fame), on their albums. Wash sang on C&C's "Gonna Make You Sweat" single and on all of the Black Box tracks (which were lip-synced in video and onstage by a model named Katrin Quinol).

However, Zelma Davis (who lip-synched Wash's lines in the "Sweat" video) did
sing on the rest of the C&C Music Factory album. She was, by all accounts, a capable singer.

I think what ultimately did Milli Vanilli in was the limitless ego they projected in interviews (quoted upthread) given the year before the scandal broke.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 27 November 2004 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Pride cometh before a fall.

Marcus, Saturday, 27 November 2004 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

This Day in Music:
1990
Milli Vanilli producer Frank Farian publicily admits that Fabrice Morvan and Rob Pilatus never sang a note on the Milli Vanilli album. The duo eventually return their Best New Artist Grammy.

Pekka Halonen, Saturday, 27 November 2004 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

"Musically, we are more talented than any Bob Dylan..."

What's worse, after being roundly ridiculed for these absurd statements, Pilatus denied it in the LA Times, which I worked for at the time, saying, "I was in shock when I read it, I am a fan of Mick Jagger and the Stones. I mean I knew I wasn't singing, so why would I ever criticize the Beatles. All I said was that Elvis was a big idol in his time and we were big in ours." However, the Time magazine interview is on tape, the quotes were as they were presented, and he sounds very sincere. The reporter even gave him a chance to explain or retract his statement by asking him what he meant and he continued, saying he was more creative than all the artists he previously mentioned and that,"It's more difficult to sing a song like Milli Vanilli than a Beatles song." As if he would know.

Hotpants, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

"It's more difficult to sing a song like Milli Vanilli than a Beatles song." As if he would know.

Well, that's pretty much true isn't it? I mean the Beatles songs were simple enough that the same guys could write, record, and play them live. With MV, the task of recording those hits was so grueling that new guys had to be brought in to do the dancing, photo shoots, interviews, etc. The MV beast was a complex and well-oiled machine. At least until the wheels came off.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

(Also, it harder to sing "Blame It On The Rain" than almost any Beatles song I can think of, largely because the voice-leading of Beatles melodies is far superior.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

With MV, the task of recording those hits was so grueling that new guys had to be brought in to do the dancing, photo shoots, interviews, etc.

While I do like some of those hits and I don't understand why they were nearly universally reviled by critics, I doubt that it took considerable effort to record them. More than anything, the producer hired the duo because he felt that the real singers didn't have the looks or the moves for pop stardom.

Hotpants, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

The real singers were pretty good. Did they ever go on to make more albums?

Sabrina, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 02:47 (seventeen years ago) link

While I do like some of those hits and I don't understand why they were nearly universally reviled by critics, I doubt that it took considerable effort to record them.

Yeah, it was a joke.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Back in 1990, I reviewed a Milli Vanilli concert at the Universal Amphitheatre. They opened it with a sword fight with a pair of black-cloaked ninja warriors(representing music critics, perhaps?) After "slaying" the ninjas, the duo performed their hits with plenty of braid-swinging and high-energy dancing. They were lip-syncing quite well, too, as I was sitting in one of the front rows and I could not tell they were miming. I would have left the concert thinking good ole' Rob and Fab had sung if they hadn't pulled these two girls out of the audience and spent forever making out with them while the music was still running. LOL

Hotpants, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 05:31 (seventeen years ago) link

The real singers were pretty good. Did they ever go on to make more albums?

Frank Farian re-launched the group in 1991 as the Real Milli Vanilli, using the singers from the original studio sessions but their LP "The Moment Of Truth" flopped.


Alicia (Leelee), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I would have left the concert thinking good ole' Rob and Fab had sung if they hadn't pulled these two girls out of the audience and spent forever making out with them while the music was still running.

HAHA. I saw them in concert too. They brought a girl out of the front row and sat her between them and cuddled her throughout a ballad. Thinking back, I wondered why they did that since the girl would have known that they were not singing. I guess they had a lot of habits like this that led to their being exposed.

Alicia (Leelee), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Interesting. I want to hear that CD, do you know if it's any good?

Sabrina, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Milli Vanilli *shudder*

I used to love those guys when I was little. I still like some of "their" songs but they were the cheesiest band ever. The shoulder pads, the blazers and spandex, and thigh high boots, the moves, the HORROR! And I would love to find a clip of their famous "girl you know it's girl you know its..." screwup. I've searched google and kazaa, to no avail.

MelMel, Monday, 27 December 2004 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

six months pass...
I had forgotten all about Milli Vanilli until they played Blame it On the Rain on VH1's Most Awesomely Bad Breakup songs. I don't think it's a bad song, though.

Zorene, Sunday, 10 July 2005 17:42 (sixteen years ago) link

MelMel, I suggest that you try Bittorrent.

Zorene, Sunday, 10 July 2005 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link

"Musically, we are more talented than any Bob Dylan. Musically, we are more talented than Paul McCartney. Mick Jagger, his lines are not clear. He don't know how he should produce a sound. I'm the new modern rock-n-roll. I'm the new Elvis." - Rob Pilatus

-- Leelee (Alicia_Sla...), November 25th, 2004.

i wish more artists these days had that lack of humility!

latebloomer: the Clonus Horror (latebloomer), Sunday, 10 July 2005 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I wonder if Rob is a distant descendant of Pontius Pilatus

Zorene, Sunday, 10 July 2005 18:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Or if he does Pilatus?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 10 July 2005 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

That Milli Vanilli "scandal" was the most rockist bollocks ever... I never liked the band, but what difference does it make whether the two muppets who appeared in the video sung on the record or not? Surely the music is all that matters.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Saturday, 13 October 2007 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link

that dog ain't gonna hunt DV

J0hn D., Saturday, 13 October 2007 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link

because the real rockism is in not just letting the dudes who sang the song appear on the cover & the stage, y'know

J0hn D., Saturday, 13 October 2007 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link

now that was a rather post-rockist way of put'in' it

t**t, Saturday, 13 October 2007 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

tortoise would've said it like that fer sure

latebloomer, Saturday, 13 October 2007 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

The real singers looked like this

dude on the left actually kinda looks like jermaine "we don't have to take our clothes off" stewart ... if mr. stewart weren't a eunuch.

Eisbaer, Monday, 10 December 2007 04:56 (fourteen years ago) link

four years pass...

http://i49.tinypic.com/k3lrx1.gif

crüt, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 07:15 (nine years ago) link

I want to know what happened to Brad Howell

crüt, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 07:17 (nine years ago) link

ty for dn

ICY BRO (SPECIAL GUEST) (some dude), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 09:52 (nine years ago) link

DAMMIT I WANTED THAT

Manchild in Beantown (stevie), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 09:55 (nine years ago) link

these motherfuckers mad that I'm icy!

ICY BRO (SPECIAL GUEST) (some dude), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 09:56 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p_ZcG_YQCI

interested persons might also wanna check the uploader's 244 other vids; his username is FRANKFARIANTHEHITMAN

kind of a goldmine tbh, here's a Farian-produced pre-solo Terence Trent D'arby act

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGi_Afpj0f4&feature=share&list=UU3IWQ_M-AzO-vlYnpVQGqWQ

ok one last one, this is Rob & Fab actually singing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtPrlItmpro&feature=share&list=UU3IWQ_M-AzO-vlYnpVQGqWQ

FRANKFARIANTHEHITMAN's playlist is really something else

try'n'b is an amazing name

activated burgers (electricsound), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 10:23 (nine years ago) link

ok I lied, I know this is a lot of youtubes but this one's really important

ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIxo4DBgTcE&feature=share&list=UU3IWQ_M-AzO-vlYnpVQGqWQ

That allegedly Fab or Rob vocal on the Empire Bizarre track sounds a lot like Farian himself. Here is the most famous Farian vocal for comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7peS5jw1nIU

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 10:33 (nine years ago) link

well that's not even the one I meant to post but it's crucial too

don't sleep on the Milli-style dance break in this one. or on anything else in this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwPVKSZ1iFk

Have a lotta love for the Milli 'cause "Girl You Know It's True" was co-written by a really friendly gas station attendant in my home town. He worked at the Amoco on Forest Drive.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 10:59 (nine years ago) link

For real!

MILLI Vanilli, the dreadlocked duo who lip-synced their way to stardom, is doing Carefree gum commercials that poke fun at their fraud.

Kevin Liles is laughing, but not all the way to the bank.

He's one of the five people who are credited with the hit song, "Girl You Know It's True," which propelled Milli Vanilli -- Rob Pilatus and Fab Morvan -- to a Grammy Award and international fame. Meanwhile Liles and his band, the Numarks, lingered in anonymity.

"We started everything," said Liles. "Without 'Girl You Know It's True,' there wouldn't have been a Milli Vanilli or anything."

Numarks is a local rap band that made the first recording of "Girl, You Know It's True." Some of the original members have left Numark, which now consists of Liles and Wayne Mallory, a disc jockey.

Numarks lives on, though. Liles and Mallory are in the recording studio, finishing songs for a new album. The first single, already playing on the radio, is dedicated to the Baltimore street that is home to Odell's, the nightclub where band members got their start, Liles said. The song is called "North Avenue . . . Drop Down."

As for the other members of the original Numarks, they're still involved in music. Bill Pettaway, who wrote the music and produced the song, works at the same job he's held for 10 years, at a gas station in Annapolis.

"The Milli Vanilli thing has not tarnished my life in any way," he said. "Kevin and everybody else involved, we made a hit song. I'm happy, I'm proud."

He's currently working with a young Washington woman on a possible singing career.

Ky Ademo of Columbia composes music regularly and is the father of twins. Rodney Holloman of Baltimore has embarked on a solo career. And the others, Darryl Mims and Sean Spencer, "they're still making music," Liles said.

how's life, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 12:09 (nine years ago) link

that's incredible, Numarks are legendary in Baltimore but somehow I knew nothing about the "Girl You Know It's True" origins w/ them. Kevin Liles obv went on to be a big deal and VP at Def Jam and later Warner Bros.

ICY BRO (SPECIAL GUEST) (some dude), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 12:21 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_53Szv3PGg

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 13:41 (nine years ago) link

Bill Pettaway is also a production associate of Timbaland's and the discoverer of Toni Braxton. But I met him at the gas station.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 13:51 (nine years ago) link

That's so fresh. I've definitely spent some time talking to dudes at gas stations. None of them wrote Girl U Know It's True though.

Did you grow up in Hillsmere, by any chance?

how's life, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 13:53 (nine years ago) link

Nope. Out General's Highway, near Rudy's.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 13:54 (nine years ago) link

guys

did you watch the get down beethoven video

Yes. And as a former Annapolitan and present-day resident of the Vienna 'burbs, I shake my head disapprovingly on behalf of Pettaway and Falco. (But my faithless toe is tapping.)

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 14:35 (nine years ago) link

nine years pass...

“Girl You Know It’s True” is a legit fucking jam

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they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 00:01 (one week ago) link

i always preferred "blame it on the rain"

remember this scandal happening as a kid and then thinking, "ya but the c+c music factory lady in the video isn't the singer either, i don't get the big deal???"

neanderthal, i've rewatched that clip so many times and i just can't even imagine what was going through their heads. the one dude starts doing the running man to the skipping beat! it's amazing.

get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 00:20 (one week ago) link

Mixed feelings today, but a piece I wrote 30+ years ago for Throat Culture mathematically proving--proving--that Milli Vanilli were better than Bob Dylan.

https://phildellio.tripod.com/milli.html

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 00:28 (one week ago) link

3) Bob Dylan Albums That Are Not As Good As Girl You Know It's True:

The Times They Are A-Changin' (1964), Self Portrait (1970), Pat Garret & Billy the
Kid (1973), Dylan (1973), Planet Waves (1974), Hard Rain (1976), Street-Legal (1978),
Bob Dylan at Budokan (1979), Slow Train Coming (1979), Saved (1980), Shot of Love
(1981), Real Live (1984), Empire Burlesque (1985), Knocked Out Loaded (1986), Down in
the Groove (1987), Dylan & the Dead (1988), Oh Mercy (1989), Under the Red Sky (1990),
Good As I Been to You (1992)

it got funnier the more i read the list.

delightful piece, ty for sharing!

get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 02:48 (one week ago) link


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