I can't stop misreading as "IBS".
― Evan, Sunday, 11 October 2020 03:00 (three years ago) link
Lol
― She Thinks I Will Dare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 October 2020 03:01 (three years ago) link
Fair enough, that's what they sound like.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 11 October 2020 10:56 (three years ago) link
Emerson, Lake & Palmer and The Smiths and Morrissey and anything Bernard Sumner sings on and The Clash and Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark and New Order for starters!
― xzanfar, Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link
That's a heavy list.
The one that many people find surprising, knowing me and my tastes, is my inability to get into The Fall. I just don't get it.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link
"Critics compare them to bands and sounds I adore"
Who are ISB compared to? Was listening to Wee Tam last night, and I love the way they can shape a bunch of lyrics (esp in their longer tracks) and then put in an instrument or sounds that are almost thrown in from nowhere into this ever-growing music. The sitar can sound so integrated, whereas with other groups it's part of an arrangement.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 11 October 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link
Maybe it's just lazy critics-- back in the New Weird America shit, ISB were often mentioned in reviews of Espers and Wooden Wand and more ornate chamber folk stuff. I was just unable to hear it, and tbh hated that second Espers album, but I've tried to come back to ISB since and they've never taken
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 11 October 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link
I've tried listening to Radiohead (especially Kid A) many times over the years and while they are certainly a band I respect, I'm about to give up on actually enjoying their music. I just think I might have to reckon with the idea that I dislike Radiohead in general, though I liked A Moon Shaped Pool at the time for whatever reason
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 11 October 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link
It’s Radiohead for me as well. I just gave Kid A another shot, and apparently I’ll just never hear what others hear.
― Guitar Dick (morrisp), Sunday, 11 October 2020 23:30 (three years ago) link
i think u have to be a sad youth to start with them honestly, dont know any other way
― cointelamateur (m bison), Monday, 12 October 2020 00:28 (three years ago) link
otm
― pomenitul, Monday, 12 October 2020 00:30 (three years ago) link
u cd try thinking about how much your parents dont udnerstand u or how hard it is to talk with people u r sexually attracted to or how much capitalism sucks and -- i repeat -- u r not fucking, that is a major source of consternation
― cointelamateur (m bison), Monday, 12 October 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link
I’ve seen Radiohead twice (Bends and HTTT eras) and both times I thought they were outstanding, totally felt they were worthy of being an era-defining band - and yet I don’t have any interest in listening to their music at home
― umsworth (emsworth), Monday, 12 October 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 11 October 2020 bookmarkflaglink
From my vague recollection of that new weird America stuff ISB...isn't that, no.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 October 2020 08:37 (three years ago) link
Which might explain why I can't get into it! That first Espers album is sick, and I love Wooden Wand and a lot of the more free-floating, noisy New Weird America stuff.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 12 October 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link
Radiohead for me too; I make an effort every few years, most recently in response to that Guardian article about their influence on black music. I made a 4-hour playlist for a long solitary car journey and sat through the whole thing, when it ended I flipped to the radio just as "Time Is Tight" by Booker T and the MGs was played - the feeling of relief was amazing, it was like putting the car into a higher gear.
― fetter, Monday, 12 October 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link
tbf, "time is tight" would probably have that effect 95% of the time.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 12 October 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link
Radiohead are very much in that Porcupine Tree vein of "they're clearly very good at this but I find it hard to enjoy this at all"
― frogbs, Monday, 12 October 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link
^ that's a really good comparison
Also, maybe we are veering off topic a bit here, but since someone mentioned New Order: I love New Order but every time I put on a Joy Division record I am bored to tears
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 12 October 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link
I love Joy Division, but I have a hard time getting into any New Order beyond their singles.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 02:23 (three years ago) link
Similarly, I like The Cure's singles, their poppy and eclectic songs, but albums like Pornography and Disintegration are completely lost on me.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 02:26 (three years ago) link
Sparks keep coming up on my Discover Weekly and just no - viscerally no.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link
Recent Sparks, old, none whatsoever? They're one of my favorite bands of all time, but I certainly get how Russell's voice is a turnoff for many.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link
Agree (but not with the "keep trying to like" part from the thread title). Very few acts are as Not For Me as Sparks.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link
Very few acts are as Not For Me as Sparks.
cosign
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link
I’m not a huge fan but I dig number 1 in heaven and terminal jive a lot. and “amateur hour”. and “cool places” with jane wiedlin.
― brimstead, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link
I think I've mainly heard older Sparks. It's strange how quickly I have to turn them off: something to do with the voice, the hyperactive bombast, the archness.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link
It's strange how quickly I have to turn them off: something to do with the voice, the hyperactive bombast, the archness.
Yep. All of this.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link
this discussion is funny. i was working at a used record store and the owner was a huge sparks fan. would often commandeer the store stereo to play them. one time he did that and he was all into it and singing along and i thought it was funny but i remarked, "it's like they're being annoying on purpose." to which he replied, all excited, "yeah, exactly!"
pretty much sums up my disinterest in them.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link
I love Sparks but didn't really "get" them until Hello Young Lovers, specifically 'Perfume', but they are like the definition of an acquired taste and I totally get all the folks here who can't hang
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link
Ha, Sparks is me, but opposite-land!
Like, I can't imagine a band who were so more completely tailor-made as something I should completely adore, with all the hyperactively arch camp bombast - and I just cannot get into them at all.
― Branwell with an N, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link
this conversation is bananas
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link
People who think they might like Sparks but don't like the most well-known stuff should try listening to Sparks and A Woofer in Tweeter's Clothing, the first two records made when they were an LA-based quintet. Songs like Fletcher Honorama, Saccharin and the War and Angus Desire have a post-psychedelic weirdness to them that they pretty much abandoned by 1974.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link
sleeve: I'm exactly in the same boat! All I knew about Sparks was annoying better-than-Zappa-but-not-much-and-with-a-whiff-of-Meatloaf 70s stuff, and then 2006 came along and "Dick Around" destroyed my brain. A friend of mine (avid Sparks fan) told me I should check out the 80s albums and ya they're great, I like them too, and all the recent albums of theirs
Still don't care for their "classic" stuff aside from being weird camp curios
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link
The only song of theirs I can make it more than 30 seconds into is The Number One Song In Heaven because there's so little ~~Sparks!~~ and so much arpeggiated synth wibbling.
― Branwell with an N, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link
what is "most well-known" sparks stuff? for a long time, i thought it was kimono my house, the earlier more operatic stuff? but i think that's just how i first became familiar with them.
but then there's also the moroder-produced no. 1 in heaven, which has "Beat the Clock" on it. somehow, i thought that was a massive worldwide smash, because i feel like i've always known that song. but it didn't even chart in the US?
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link
No 1 in Heaven is pretty spectacular imo, if you have any interest in giorgio moroder and haven't heard it
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link
i have an extremely soft spot for them in my heart because they were my first literal "what is THIS playing?" moment in a record store. i wish i knew which sparks it was, but at the time, as a scared teen escaping my dorm room for a few minutes, it sounded like otherworldly avant pop. i didn't really track anything down by them for a few more years, but i mentally noted them as cool stuff
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link
"being annoying on purpose" is pretty much my favourite type of music
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link
I remember hearing "Tryouts For The Human Race" as pre-show music for Har Mar Superstar and thinking it was some of the greatest music I've ever heard...but I didn't know what it was!! Discovering Sparks a year later and going..."hey...it's that fuckin' song!" was a pretty cool experience
they're definitely a polarizing group - I pretty much loved them right away. like, two songs into Kimono My House I thought surely this was one of the best bands to ever exist. but I understand the opposite reaction. I played them for one of my friends and his reaction was "never play that band for me again". later he said he was frustrated because he couldn't get "As I Sit Down to Play the Organ at the Notre Dame Cathedral" out of his head. I thought that was pretty impressive - even people with an allergic reaction to their music still get their songs stuck in their head
― frogbs, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 21:04 (three years ago) link
Propaganda was a favorite as a kid and I still enjoy it when in the right mood, but I’ve never been able to get into anything else they’ve done.
― beard papa, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 06:30 (three years ago) link
I listened to a bit of Sparks last night (I only previously knew 'TTABEFTBOU', 'Beat The Clock' and 'Number One Song In Heaven'. I can confirm that this is exactly my thing and I'm confused about why people would hate on some fun upbeat glam/disco/new-wave with flamboyant singing and esoteric lyrics really.
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 12:04 (three years ago) link
I like Sparks but have never understood the rabid reactions pro- or anti-. Some good songs and records, but nothing to get too excited about, IMHO.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link
Everyone has always, always said I'll absolutely love Sparks, but it hasn't quite happened yet
― Chip-vill-A (imago), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link
I like them in small doses, don't quite get the fanaticism
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link
I think I have similar with Zappa. Everyone sees that I'm a Cardiacs fanatic and assumes I'll also love their supposed American progenitors, but it's a completely different vibe
― Chip-vill-A (imago), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link
you just haven't heard the right albums /lol
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link
The problem is you have to complete a set of increasingly tedious quests to unlock the right albums
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link
zappa cannot fail he can only be failed
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link
The secret connection is that Ron Mael had a thick Zappa-style moustache in 1971.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link