Bands you keep trying to like but can't get into

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I guess I'm a glutton for punishment, that or I recognize that my tastes change over time. But some bands I revisit every 3-5 years and just can't get into. The biggest example is The Clash, the only top tier UK punk band that just doesn't do it for me. Oh, some of the early singles are good but I keep trying to no avail. This year I listened to the live album and it just doesn't move me.

Anyone else relate?

Mr. Odd, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

A.C. Temple, but I don't expect that to spark much discussion.

dlp9001, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

...and I'm pretty sure there has to be another thread or so on this, since I usually bring up Live Skull, who I'm still not into.

dlp9001, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Tom Waits. I've given up.

Ms Misery, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

mmm...arcade fire....

Zeno, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Have you heard Positraction, dlp9001? (Maybe I've asked you that before...)

2x-post

Tim Ellison, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Tom Waits. I've given up.

Oh my god, I thought I was the only one...

Davey D, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Positraction is great indeed.
i love live skull,but i have a friend who desnt get them either,he says the sound is too "goth" for him.
what an idiot.

Zeno, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

"Tom Waits. I've given up.

Oh my god, I thought I was the only one..."

thirded, though i didn't try too much

Zeno, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Waits 4th'd

I tried a little, but goddam, if you have to try that hard...

(I don't mind him on film)

will, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

The White Stripes. I try and try, and even enjoy it here and there, but part of me really dislikes their sound. Also the Pet Shop Boys. Not big on Waits either. Although he mixes in nicely on Dr.Yo.

django, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I have Positraction on my iPod, and definitely keep plugging away at it. I think it may be production that's keeping me from liking Live Skull...it's very frustrating as I keep expecting them to click some day and they never seem to. Oh well, I rarely give up on bands that seem intriguing. Right now my NY post-No-Wave guitar bands ranking is something like Dustdevils>Band of Susans>Rat at Rat R>Swans>Sonic Youth and I'm probably forgetting someone. Magic Dirt figure in somewhere, but they're not from NY.

xpost.

dlp9001, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

the two that I regret not liking are Husker Du and Public Enemy. they sound so awesome, but i just can't..

poortheatre, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

oh and Everything But The Girl. or as I call them, Slow And Horrible Death By Brunch.

django, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I tried Tortoise four times, but nothing, well except maybe for Dj'ed.

mehlt, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Boredoms. They're okay, but I always feel like that time could be better spent listening to something else similar yet better.

dean ge, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

The Fall. A lot of Bowie. All of New Order. Teh Beatles.

bnw, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

XTC and Dinosaur Jr, chiefly.

Z S, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

also modest mouse,and yeah huskar du..

Zeno, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost - Dinosaur seconded. I like a few things here and there that they've done, and I've had You're living all over me since high school. I tried listening to it the other day, and besides the first track (which I really like) and Lou's song (I like the mopey early Sebadoh/Sentridoh Freed Weed, etc. stuff), I've never really been able to get into it. I don't think they're overrated, though, it's just one of those things that I can't really get into.

Mark Clemente, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

xxxpost the Fall definitely. Though I've admittedly only tried with one album, This Nation's Saving Grace, but it has never worked for me. But perhaps I should give the other stuff a listen.

Mark Clemente, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

"But perhaps I should give the other stuff a listen"

no perhaps - have to!

Zeno, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

For a while it was the Boredoms, but now I just like them! Sonic Youth have taken their place.

I wonder why we pick specific bands to try to like. I know the bands I try to like are usually canonical ones, but there are certain canonical bands that I dislike and have not bothered giving a second chance to.

Vinnie, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

btw,if the search function worked ok - there are several threads on the subject

Zeno, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

"I wonder why we pick specific bands to try to like"

there are some people with similiar music taste like mine, but they also like this one band that i don't get.
usually i try to like this band, cause it doesnt seem logic that i don't like them.
but who says life and taste in music make sense anyway..

Zeno, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

zeno -- I know I could just look at a Fall thread, but what's an album I should check out if I didn't totally like TNSG? They have an awful lot of stuff...

Mark Clemente, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

you can't go wrong with slates, man

pretzel walrus, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

try a compilation of "the early years" and "the woonderfull and frightning world" which is like TNSG but with a better,cleaner,more accesible production.
if you don't like those 2, give up.
(and if you do - the next step is hex enduction hour, which is a more "difficult" classic)

Zeno, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

that's pretty good advice!

Tim Ellison, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

my stock answer to this question is, and probably always will be:

Manic Street Preachers

henry s, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I did try to search for a similar thread but without a unique keyword, nothing...

Tom Waits - I'm in that boat, too. This year, though, I made some progress with the 3 disc box he recently put out. The Orphans tracks, in particular, are really good. But not enough to make me own him.

The Fall took me years to go from hate to total and complete love, and I also started by getting into the poppier Beggars Banquet years, working backwards and then forwards again.

Sonic Youth also fall into this category for me, though I like alot of their work but I just don't love them and find their records inconsistent.

Mr. Odd, Monday, 9 July 2007 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't like It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back at all, but the other Public Enemy stuff I've heard leads me to believe that I might still be able to get into one of their other albums.

"Sister Ray" and The Velvet Underground & Nico are so boring that I have no desire to listen to VU ever again. I remember one time when the stretch from "I'm Waiting For My Man" to "Heroin" sorta clicked with me and I 'got it', but the next time I listened to it it was gone again.

bernard snowy, Monday, 9 July 2007 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Three letters: G.B.V.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Joy Division & Pere Ubu. I understand their importance, but neither are any fun.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link

hey wait a damn minute. pere ubu are, at their best, a surreal experience.
secondly, the sounds that Allen Ravenstine produces are flat out kooky.
i wouldn't expect Dadaesque art to be "fun", but it can be entertaining as hell if you're in the right mood.

one of the most spine tingling solos i've ever heard is on the song "final solution" - not "feel good" stuff, but, like it or lump it, as powerful as anything ever recorded, imo

outdoor_miner, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 00:54 (fourteen years ago) link

try a compilation of "the early years" and "the woonderfull and frightning world" which is like TNSG but with a better,cleaner,more accesible production.

On CD, Wonderful & Frightening World has always sounded really murky to my ears (though it is perhaps my favorite Fall album). If you're not averse to a career-spanning comp, I think 50,000 Fall Fans actually does pretty well.

I can't quite get into Van der Graaf Generator and am not sure why. It might be something about Peter Hammill's voice, sort of over the top or harsh. I like early Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, some Gentle Giant; being into the proggy stuff as well as later punk/post-punk, by which standards it seems like VDGG was more admirable than other prog, it seems like I should like them, but not much luck so far. He to the He I somewhat enjoy.

eatandoph, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Three letters: G.B.V.

At their best, GBV create fantastic 3 minute pop songs that stick in your head. Unfortunately, most of their albums are chock-a-block full of song snippets and other failed experiments, making it hard to get to the nuggets. A friend of mine, a huge GBV fan, skimmed the top for me and culled out all their best stuff, and it's a joy to listen to. He recently lent me _Bee Thousand_ and I found listening to it a chore just to get to the good bits. So I can understand your feeling - find a friend who's a GBV fanatic and have 'em make you some compilations!

Mr. Odd, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Spoon... such a goddamn impenetrable band.

Jordan Sargent, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Wilco - 'Summerteeth' to be specific.

On paper it should be so easy. But stick it on my stereo and my hand immediately reaches for the skip button.

sam500, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 02:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Three letters: G.B.V.

Seconded. Bought three of their records before I finally admitted to myself that I just don't want to listen to half-completed demos of half-written songs.

Formerly Painful Dentistry, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 02:51 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm amazed that everything I was gonna submit has already been mentioned.. either we've all been lulled into quietly putting them into "the canon" without thinking, or we understand why they're vital yet it just misses the mark on a personal level.

My vote goes to the latter.. they're all pretty inventive.

So for me, again..
Public Enemy
Pere Ubu
G.B.V.
Husker Du
Bowie
XTC
Tom Waits

And I try three or four consecutive Animal Collective tracks at least once every two months. Never sparks anything.

The Fall took me years to go from hate to total and complete love..

Yepp.

bassace, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 03:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Spoon, totally. Sometimes nice to hear on a jukebox, maybe on a soundtrack. Perfect incidental indie.

wanko ergo sum, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link

The Replacements

iago g., Tuesday, 10 July 2007 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah I finally clicked with The Fall about a year ago. No idea what happened there, it just made a great deal of sense one day. And this was after a couple years of trying to like them.

Pere Ubu and Tom Waits both way OTM, for me.

Clay, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Broken Social Scene. Another Arcade Fire I'm afraid.

whatever, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link

You know, I see a lot of bands being named here that I completely love (Hüsker Dü, The Replacements), but I totally understand how someone can be "eh" about 'em.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Spoon, the Arcade Fire, and the Fall. yeah, not an original bunch to pick, but those really ARE the ones that first pop into my head.

the table is the table, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 04:12 (fourteen years ago) link

"Wilco - 'Summerteeth' to be specific.

On paper it should be so easy. But stick it on my stereo and my hand immediately reaches for the skip button.

"

yeah,otm.but only about that particular record.

pere ubu is hard to get into,and i can't say i'm always in the mood,but if i am - they are great experience.

plus, i can't get a alot of the progressive 70's stuff that is now quite trendy,maybe cause i grew up on 3 minutes songs,it's too pretentious and ridicules to me sometimes.

oh,and though i love "Can",some of their suppose to be "classic" stuff is boring.

Zeno, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 04:20 (fourteen years ago) link

90% of all popular music released in the past five years

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 04:37 (fourteen years ago) link

"90% of all popular music released in the past five years"

how old are you?

Zeno, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 04:39 (fourteen years ago) link

And yes, re Aphex, the drill n bass on drukqs is exactly what I had in mind.

I have no couch and I must stream (NotEnough), Friday, 9 July 2021 14:17 (three weeks ago) link

i didnt really get coltrane until i read that deleted pitchfork review. helped me understand how much he inspired drum-n-bass.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 9 July 2021 14:18 (three weeks ago) link

If you really want to sit down and study it, Lewis Porter's article "John Coltrane's 'A Love Supreme': Jazz Improvisation as Composition", from the Aug 1985 issue of the Journal of the American Musicological Society, is good. DM if you can't find it.xp

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 9 July 2021 14:21 (three weeks ago) link

drill & bass, Aphex or otherwise, just draws me in straight away, I understand that other people find it difficult to listen to but cannot really grasp why that is.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 9 July 2021 14:22 (three weeks ago) link

A Love Supreme for me is a little bit like the Stairway of the Coltrane catalog. An undeniably great but played out masterwork, and one that I don't think best captures my favorite elements of his playing in spite of how memorable it is.

However if it's too cacophonous for you, you are probably fairly sensitive to dissonance and I doubt you'll do better with later works.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 9 July 2021 15:20 (three weeks ago) link

There's an entire book on A Love Supreme by Ashley Kahn that looks into the context and the recording in detail without too much music theory, if that is useful.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 9 July 2021 15:25 (three weeks ago) link

Try Crescent, recorded a few months before ALS. If I had to pick just one Coltrane album, that might be it. It's extraordinarily beautiful, especially the ballad "Wise One."

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 9 July 2021 15:29 (three weeks ago) link

crescent trained me to appreciate ALS I think

Left, Friday, 9 July 2021 15:40 (three weeks ago) link

I've been listening to his final album, Expression, and I mostly have to appreciate the textures rather than follow the structure in any more than an elementary way.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 9 July 2021 15:56 (three weeks ago) link

that album is frustrating/upsetting bc he was starting to go somewhere new

Left, Friday, 9 July 2021 16:07 (three weeks ago) link

He could have gone anywhere: electric, "spiritual", maybe even Third Stream compositions.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 9 July 2021 16:17 (three weeks ago) link

hendrix collab

Left, Friday, 9 July 2021 16:24 (three weeks ago) link

As much I'd love to hear it, I reckon the Hendrix collaboration is best left in the imagination.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 9 July 2021 16:35 (three weeks ago) link

I doubt Coltrane's and Hendrix's paths would ever have crossed. Coltrane was as pure an acoustic jazz player as ever existed; there's not even a record of him ever playing with an organ trio. Alice didn't even plug in until after his death.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 9 July 2021 16:49 (three weeks ago) link

We wanted Hendrix and Coltrane, we got Henry Vestine and Albert Ayler on bagpipes.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 9 July 2021 16:49 (three weeks ago) link

I doubt Coltrane's and Hendrix's paths would ever have crossed. Coltrane was as pure an acoustic jazz player as ever existed; there's not even a record of him ever playing with an organ trio. Alice didn't even plug in until after his death.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, July 9, 2021 12:49 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Coltrane sat in with Sonny Sharrock at least once (Sharrock said it felt like a massive industrial fan had been turned on behind him; he turned around, and it was Trane), and experimented with a prototype Varitone electronic saxophone setup shortly before his death:

https://i.imgur.com/xddM9dm.jpeg

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 9 July 2021 17:22 (three weeks ago) link

we got Henry Vestine and Albert Ayler on bagpipes.

LOL. Sadly not at the same time.

Wouldn't disgrace a Michael Jackson (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2021 17:25 (three weeks ago) link

If Miles had died on the same day Coltrane did, he wouldn't have recorded with electric instruments either. We'd be saying, "Miles was too traditional to have gone electric".

At the same time! on "Untitled Duet" on Ayler's Last Album.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 9 July 2021 17:28 (three weeks ago) link

it's pointless to speculate on alternate history, but coltrane's last recordings were his most wild and adventurous of all. i don't think it would be likely that he'd ignore electronics. if anything i'd expect him to do something much, much more wild and extreme than anything miles davis did

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 9 July 2021 17:31 (three weeks ago) link

At the same time! on "Untitled Duet" on Ayler's Last Album.

Oh right, I knew Henry Vestine had played with him but I didn't know Albert was on bagpipes at the time.

Wouldn't disgrace a Michael Jackson (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2021 17:33 (three weeks ago) link

While I'm here, Albert Ayler.

Wouldn't disgrace a Michael Jackson (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2021 17:34 (three weeks ago) link

I like Waits’ the heart of Saturday night but not really anything else. It’s all I need from him.

brimstead, Friday, 9 July 2021 18:37 (three weeks ago) link

^^^ That'd be Rain Dogs for me. I like bits and pieces of other Tom Waits records.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 9 July 2021 19:24 (three weeks ago) link

I don't really see how one could like Rain Dogs but not Swordfish or Franks Wild Years. They sound of a piece to me and I can happily listen to those three on shuffle no probs

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 9 July 2021 22:17 (three weeks ago) link

Rain Dogs is the poppiest of the three, the easiest to like. Swordfishtrombones is OK, but to me it feels a little murky and not-quite-there; he was still figuring out the style he perfected on RD and on Bone Machine.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 9 July 2021 22:48 (three weeks ago) link

A. R. Kane

Evan, Friday, 9 July 2021 22:50 (three weeks ago) link

what about “when you’re sad”/“so far away”?

brimstead, Friday, 9 July 2021 23:15 (three weeks ago) link

just perfect single imo. 69 is weird and gorgeous, took me awhile to get into it.

brimstead, Friday, 9 July 2021 23:17 (three weeks ago) link

Gave up trying with them tbh.

Wouldn't disgrace a Michael Jackson (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2021 23:25 (three weeks ago) link

talking heads

xzanfar, Saturday, 10 July 2021 00:08 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaOj0-nvkoA

xzanfar, Saturday, 10 July 2021 00:09 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixj-NcYIKAQ

xzanfar, Saturday, 10 July 2021 00:10 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah I have 69 but need to try again

Evan, Saturday, 10 July 2021 01:13 (three weeks ago) link

sign me up as someone who couldn't get into 69 but liked "When You're Sad"

sleeve, Saturday, 10 July 2021 01:26 (three weeks ago) link

For a bit I thought you guys were saying you were trying to force yourself to like 6ix9ine

treeship., Saturday, 10 July 2021 02:26 (three weeks ago) link

Here's where I wave my giant 'Tom Waits' Big Time is his best record! Number 1' foam finger again. Such a shame that it doesn't get any love as it has *scorching* versions of songs from the Island years that surpass the album versions by miles and is the best entry into his middle years.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 10 July 2021 11:58 (three weeks ago) link

It is a really good, overlooked album. It might help if the movie was available, too...

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 10 July 2021 12:03 (three weeks ago) link

I have a friend who is passionate about Sebadoh, and I kept trying to engage with it, but have found that I am just not interested... partially cuz dude seems like such a shitty, prickish ghoul of a human.

heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 19:26 (three weeks ago) link

^I wouldn't go that far, but (as a big fan) I'm not sure how someone would get into Sebadoh "fresh"... they seem like a pretty context-specific band, if that makes sense (III is a klassic, tho).

aging goth couple™ (morrisp), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 19:38 (three weeks ago) link

Also - Smash Your Head... is one of my favorite records, and I think the Barlow 'tude is fairly minimal on that one (it's mainly rockin'). So maybe there?

aging goth couple™ (morrisp), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 19:39 (three weeks ago) link

i prefer swordfishtrombones to rain dogs because its less traditional ... i remember finding rain dogs kind of a disappointment bc it just got a bit less theatrical and a bit more idk ... bluesy

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 02:57 (two weeks ago) link

Re: Sebadoh - How about listening to Jason Loewenstein's 100% Barlow-free At Sixes and Sevens solo album?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JPQpDqEGsY

Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 05:56 (two weeks ago) link

Another thing about Sebadoh is (and I know this is a very Indie Rock Dick comment) a lot of their key stuff was spread out in random places - so if you didn't have, like, the "Asshole" 7"; Oven Is My Friend on Siltbreeze; the Magic Ribbons 7" comp box set, etc., you weren't getting the whole picture (though I'm sure that stuff is all on YouTube now).

Looking back, I can see how the main impression they make is - "Uptight stoner guy dryly dissects his hang-ups and passive-aggressively gets emo about relationships" - but they were really one of the premier bands of the scene, at least early on, they did so much that was so great.

aging goth couple™ (morrisp), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 14:49 (two weeks ago) link

Another example is Unrest - even in their time, they were mainly known for their last few albums (when they settled into a poppier sound), but their early output is some of the most exciting, diverse, and creative of anyone's (and they got started a little earlier, too). Now they're just lumped in on streaming services with a bunch of identically-named cruft, and are barely remembered AFAIK.

aging goth couple™ (morrisp), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 14:56 (two weeks ago) link

Just seconding morrisp on Sebadoh - the impact they'd had by 1992 was muddled (I think) by the years of the band after that. Not to say they weren't good later records/line-ups, but in that moment: this dude kicked out of Dino Jr, putting out lo-fi stoner folk tapes as duo with Eric, then pivoting to loud overblown trio live shows and then records (songs often redone from the original acoustic versions from those tapes), shambling shows where the equipment was falling apart, switching instruments/singer/songwriters (Eric was a huge part of that early group magic), and singles/albums/comp tracks coming out left and right as morris said made them as vital as any band then. Live stuff usually helps me get into a band, so these two from 1991 and 1992 might help with that context (or cement the perspective that he's a prickish ghoul - imo he's more that friend who can't stop obsessing over a past relationship. I'd lose my mind dealing with him as a friend/bandmate, but in the context of a fan of the band I don't mind it).

Maxwell's 1991: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMlY93hlL-o
Maxwell's 1992: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLILUFeYF8w (with snippets of Royal Trux and Smog)

And yes to Unrest too!

city worker, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 15:24 (two weeks ago) link

Nice links! This is my favorite Sebadoh boot (7th Street Entry) - it's tense, brittle, terrific:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9A9T9Nm7lQ

aging goth couple™ (morrisp), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 16:27 (two weeks ago) link

RE: Coltrane stuff upthread

Must concur on Crescent. It is so lovely. Jimmy Garrison's long, unaccompanied bass solo on "Lonnie's Lament" is one of my favorite Coltrane Quartet moments on record. Andy once had a dream that John Coltrane did not exit in 1967 and, with Alice by his side, ended up as a co-leader of Sun Ra's Arkestra. In his Earthly life, Coltrane was a fan of John Gilmore, mostly based on Gilmore's time in NYC around when this album was recorded. There are a few anecdotes around it in John Szwed's Sun Ra biography.

Would liken someone not really getting why with Sebadoh now to a time when we worked at Tower Records. It was 2005-ish and a very younger co-worker (eighteen exactly, to be sure) was recommended Sunny Day Real Estate and hated it based on the fact that, at that point, it sounded like a thousand other stock cliche emo bands. Sometimes the context is approaching to be —or just as— important as the music.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 17:45 (two weeks ago) link

Those Sebadoh clips are good - definitely a band I never completely "got" and I can at least see what people see in them from those. I would have enjoyed those shows I think.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 18:55 (two weeks ago) link

That Maxwell's set is crunchy as hell - love it

aging goth couple™ (morrisp), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 19:45 (two weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

Okay, I actually dig that clip from Maxwell's. I still probably won't get into Sebadoh, but it's the first thing I've heard that made the appeal palpable

heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 19:48 (six days ago) link


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