R.E.M. news - yay

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From their web site:

Day three of the Dublin working rehearsals witnessed a powerful performance from the band who once again "tried out" eleven new songs as well as several songs from Fables of the Reconstruction and Reckoning. The new songs which include such WORKING titles as "Horse To Water," "Staring Down the Barrel of the Middle Distance," "Until the Day is Done," and "Houston" sound fantastic and confident as if the guys had been playing them for a long time now. The older material consisted of some songs the band, in Michael's words, hadn't thought about in twenty years: "Feeling Gravitys Pull," "1,000,000," "Auctioneer," and "Kohoutek." The band also played "Second Guessing" "Driver 8" (with Scott McCaughey looking like Bob Dylan on harmonica) and "So. Central Rain (I'm Sorry)" from the back catalog as well as "new" song "I'm Gonna DJ" which Michael said will likely appear on the next record.

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The new songs have gone over very well, with repeat (or maybe it’s YouTube) patrons seeming to know the words to many of the fast ones (that’s most of them). The chestnuts that have been offered as a peace offering have been thoughtfully and generously chosen— sure, there are some sporadic standards that occasionally work their way into R.E.M. sets over the years: Drive, These Days, Sitting Still. But Carnival of Sorts? 1,000,000? And last night West of the Fields, Harborcoat— wow! Those haven’t been played (best we can remember) since 1984 and 1985, respectively.

Tim Ellison, Thursday, 5 July 2007 22:46 (twelve years ago) link

"Drive" a standard? I mean, that just came out, right?

wanko ergo sum, Thursday, 5 July 2007 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

that's from automatic for the people.

Tim Ellison, Thursday, 5 July 2007 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

oh yes there have been albums since then, i forgotted

wanko ergo sum, Thursday, 5 July 2007 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

They played "Feeling Gravity's Pull" in 2002.

The only R.E.M. could excite now is if they got Christine McVie to join.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 5 July 2007 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

Nitpicker! It would be fun to see them play "Harbourcoat" and "Carnival of Sorts" and "Kahoutek!"

Tim Ellison, Thursday, 5 July 2007 23:16 (twelve years ago) link

I know you can't accpet Bill Rieflin, Alfred. : D

Tim Ellison, Thursday, 5 July 2007 23:17 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.remhq.com/cms_files/images/cms_image_14825.jpg

Tim Ellison, Thursday, 5 July 2007 23:32 (twelve years ago) link

Dude still sets up the dinosaurs on his amps.

Tim Ellison, Thursday, 5 July 2007 23:32 (twelve years ago) link

one day, when we are all old, we will sit through a tribute to R.E.M. including Thom Yorke moaning through "Swan Swan H" while Johnny Greenwood plays the backing on a pupil-tracking sequencer

or at least billy bragg and natalie merchant

nabisco, Thursday, 5 July 2007 23:32 (twelve years ago) link

I always thought "West of the Fields" sounded like it would've killed live

bernard snowy, Thursday, 5 July 2007 23:34 (twelve years ago) link

OK guys, as a point of comparison, when the critically-lauded, recently reunited Mission of Burma play concerts, does anyone in the band JUMP IN THE AIR and do a SCISSOR KICK?

Tim Ellison, Thursday, 5 July 2007 23:43 (twelve years ago) link

oh please, james brown was doing the splits during his own eulogy

nabisco, Friday, 6 July 2007 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

i was comparing them to mission of burma.

Tim Ellison, Friday, 6 July 2007 00:24 (twelve years ago) link

(i.e., not james brown)

Tim Ellison, Friday, 6 July 2007 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

This is exciting. I am excited. Also, scissor kicks are neat.

Davey D, Friday, 6 July 2007 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

Harborcoat— wow!

WOW!

(no irony).

pisces, Friday, 6 July 2007 00:29 (twelve years ago) link

don't worry, tim, it was mostly a joke -- although seriously, a scissor-kick from a barely-middle-aged guitar player is really not stop-the-presses exciting, is it? most instances of this phenomenon that i have personally witnessed have been more embarrassing than anything else.

nabisco, Friday, 6 July 2007 00:55 (twelve years ago) link

PLZ TO NAME EMBARASSING SCISSOR KICKS YOU HAVE WITNESSED. PETE BUCK ONE IN THE PHOTO LOOKS SWEET.

Tim Ellison, Friday, 6 July 2007 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.abqjournal.com/shock/s_hagar306-19-02.jpg

da croupier, Friday, 6 July 2007 01:07 (twelve years ago) link

that said I am all for REM to start playing good songs again, though "Gardening At Night" at the hall of fame show implied that Stipe sadly can't re-learn mumbling.

da croupier, Friday, 6 July 2007 01:07 (twelve years ago) link

and Burma's pretty damn enthusiastic live

da croupier, Friday, 6 July 2007 01:09 (twelve years ago) link

lol Hagar's pants

marmotwolof, Friday, 6 July 2007 01:41 (twelve years ago) link

that's Mike Mills.

da croupier, Friday, 6 July 2007 02:14 (twelve years ago) link

rofz

wanko ergo sum, Friday, 6 July 2007 02:27 (twelve years ago) link

okay mikey, maybe the nudie suits weren't so bad after all.

wanko ergo sum, Friday, 6 July 2007 02:30 (twelve years ago) link

they really haven't played Harborcoat since '85???

(^^^ ALSO TIM PLZ NOTE CORRECT SPELLING)

river wolf, Friday, 6 July 2007 04:22 (twelve years ago) link

That's probably true. It doesn't seem like they were playing it by the time of the Lifes Rich Pageant tour.

Tim Ellison, Friday, 6 July 2007 04:30 (twelve years ago) link

I love "Feeling Gravity's Pull", I should like to see them do that live, its a wonderful song.

Trayce, Friday, 6 July 2007 04:33 (twelve years ago) link

I'm glad it only took them about ten years to realize that the fans who're still with them love that material. [Back in '99 I cringed when people booed 'Cuyahoga.' Somebody needed to sit down with a focus group before the Up tour it seemed.]

fukasaku tollbooth, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:49 (twelve years ago) link

ugh, except Cuyahoga sucks and Harborcoat doesn't!

Mr. Que, Friday, 6 July 2007 11:33 (twelve years ago) link

Wait, I really like this Christine McVie idea!

mitya, Friday, 6 July 2007 12:10 (twelve years ago) link

people booed them during 'cuyahoga'? jeez. i thought that was pretty much the highlight of the 99 show i saw.

toby, Friday, 6 July 2007 14:57 (twelve years ago) link

The Dublin clips i've seen show Stipey mostly turned to one side, reading "Feeling Gravity's Pull" and "1,000,000" off a piece of paper. This tempers my jealousy toward the concertgoers a bit.

mike a, Friday, 6 July 2007 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

How can we talk about middle-aged rockers kicking up their heels & not mention GBV?

David R., Friday, 6 July 2007 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

do GBV have heels? can they kick them?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 6 July 2007 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

Converse have heels, yes.

David R., Friday, 6 July 2007 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

R.E.M. could have been the college rock Led Zeppelin if they just broke up when the drummer died. Instead they're the college rock Stones, right down to OMG THEY DID PARACHUTE WOMAN.

da croupier, Friday, 6 July 2007 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

Tim, Mission Of Burma bring it live, esp. Conley. They all look like they're having tons of fun. I don't think I saw a scissor kick though.

This does seem like a welcome resurgence.

sleeve, Friday, 6 July 2007 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

R.E.M. could have been the college rock Led Zeppelin if they just broke up when the drummer died

They could have asked Phil Collins to join too! What's he doing lately?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 6 July 2007 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

Mission of Burma could have asked Zak Starkey to join if their drummer had quit.

Tim Ellison, Friday, 6 July 2007 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

Umm dude I believe REM still have time left to "break up when the drummer dies."

nabisco, Friday, 6 July 2007 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

Also: is it just me, or has Stipe's voice progressed kind of backwards? He spent his youth being husky and mumbly, and slowly converted into bleaty projection and clarity -- it's hard to imagine him now getting back at the vocal tone of those early songs.

nabisco, Friday, 6 July 2007 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

("Progressed backwards" meaning over his life span, of course -- it seems like aging usually makes people more soft and husky.)

nabisco, Friday, 6 July 2007 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

Umm dude I believe REM still have time left to "break up when the drummer dies."

Gee, you'd think I was making a joke or something.

da croupier, Friday, 6 July 2007 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

Heavens! ;)

David R., Friday, 6 July 2007 19:39 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry! He had that whole brain-aneurysm thing, I thought maybe you thought he died then!

nabisco, Friday, 6 July 2007 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

I saw Zombie Bill Berry play on the Monster tour and didn't notice a difference

marmotwolof, Friday, 6 July 2007 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

You know what's weird? Really weird? Right now I find myself wishing R.E.M. made another album that sounded exactly like Monster. If you think about, in all this time since 1994 not a single band has made an album that sounded like that (vox amp + digital delay as the main instrument).

Erroneous Botch, Friday, 6 July 2007 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

i go back and forth between 'pageant' and 'fables.' excited for this

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 15:38 (eight years ago) link

If I'm allowed I'll post a tracklisting for the demo's disc later.

the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 15:43 (eight years ago) link

I think LRP might be my favourite REM record, but I just don't listen to it as much as say Up.

Wow! Maresnest, I feel exactly the same way! I've always felt like "Up" was made by a different band yet still showcasing what makes REM great.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 15:49 (eight years ago) link

:) There's something consistently bright, optimistic and headrush-y and also weirdly a bit post-hardcore about it, like those tours with Minutemen got to the core of Buck's songwriting for a while.

the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 15:53 (eight years ago) link

Here we go:

Disc Two: The Athens Demos – all previously unreleased
(Recorded March 1986 at John Keane’s Studio, Athens GA)

1. Fall On Me 10. Cuyahoga
2. Hyena 11. I Believe
3. March Song (King Of Birds) 12. Out Of Tune
4. These Days 13. Rotary Ten
5. Bad Day 14. Two Steps Onward
6. Salsa (Underneath The Bunker) 15. Just A Touch
7. Swan Swan H 16. Mystery To Me
8. Flowers Of Guatemala 17. Wait
9. Begin The Begin 18. All The Right Friends
19. Get On Their Way (What If We Give It Away)

the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:03 (eight years ago) link

Oh jeez..


Disc Two: The Athens Demos – all previously unreleased
(Recorded March 1986 at John Keane’s Studio, Athens GA)

1. Fall On Me
2. Hyena
3. March Song (King Of Birds)
4. These Days
5. Bad Day
6. Salsa (Underneath The Bunker)
7. Swan Swan H
8. Flowers Of Guatemala
9. Begin The Begin
10. Cuyahoga
11. I Believe
12. Out Of Tune
13. Rotary Ten
14. Two Steps Onward
15. Just A Touch
16. Mystery To Me
17. Wait
18. All The Right Friends
19. Get On Their Way (What If We Give It Away)

the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:07 (eight years ago) link

I love "Cuyahoga" so much.

1) "Let's put our heads together & start a new country up"---been feeling this a lot lately; & Stipe sounds so earnest about it, a totally suitable attitude imo. I want to do this too.

2) The rush from the third chorus into the bridge ("rewrite the book")---sublime. And the idea goes too far & it dies out, into the opening again.

3) How the rhythm section swings: the opening bass riff gets it started, and then whilst the first verse kinda thuds on the drums, the pre-chorus bit ("this is where we walked...") just dances; and so does the chorus; you could dance to this & it wouldn't be that awkward!

4) "We are not your allies, we cannot defend."

5) Is that feedback on the second verse? Or is that an organ? It adds to the menace, whatever it is. I think there's an electric piano in that second chorus at the end, so it's probably keys. I don't have any session notes handy.

Euler, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:28 (eight years ago) link

euler you are otm. the whole album's galvanizing. the first two songs are calls to arms

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:01 (eight years ago) link

The bridge of Swan Swan H has always been one of my fav rem moments

secretariat on demand (Z S), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:59 (eight years ago) link

My main problem with this album is that "What If We Give It Away?" & "Just A Touch" are the worst songs on an REM album until "Ignoreland". I know they're old songs & I love pre-Murmur REM but they don't fit the flow of the album. They'd work ok as singles, though they're still sub-par. The chorus of "What If We Give It Away?" is a whine; & "Just A Touch" doesn't pop like the raver they're envision, plus its chorus sounds like a mishmash of lines ending up in "I Believe" with, well, just a bunch of garbled words---the kind of thing REM haters accuse Stipe of! I'm happy when it ends because that moment of Stipe falling off is a highlight & it leads into a couple of great songs.

Euler, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:11 (eight years ago) link

"just a touch" works for me like a reassertion of "little america" -- "i can't see myself at 30" to "i'm so young, i'm so goddamn young." never been a huge fan of "what if we give it away" though either

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:29 (eight years ago) link

yeah that last bit is the good part of "Just A Touch". They must have been struggling for material to put those two old songs on there.

Euler, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:32 (eight years ago) link

man "The Flowers of Guatemala" is REM's first power ballad & it's a great one. Another ace bridge! that feedback blast on it is a hook, & then into a rare guitar solo. I'd kinda like to have heard more Mills vocal on it, maybe even a lead or a duet? Stipe hits a few too many drones that I think helixing with Mills could have cured or at least blurred.

Euler, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:36 (eight years ago) link

maybe we'll hear more mills on the demos?

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:38 (eight years ago) link

true! I didn't find the Fables demos to be much of a revelation but tbh I only listened through once & anyway I like the murk of Boyd's production.

Euler, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:44 (eight years ago) link

ok I take that back, the demo of "Auctioneer" is really swell; it ends with Stipe saying "another...engine....another...engine" à la "Horses" & then someone yells really loudly & then it ends; really tense!

Euler, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:58 (eight years ago) link

What is it with PSA? Surprised at it popping up here, I thought it was written around the time of Green, odd to be reiterating such an obvious lame duck.

the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:07 (eight years ago) link

LRP's second side is weak in the songwriting dept - they didn't have enough songs, had to flesh out old 1980/01 live numbers. Disappointing given the first side is so cohesive. Would say the same for Document (ace first side) but I like the oddball stuff after the big hit - people obviously don't. But it was more interesting than LRP's.

Fables better the whole way through both albums.

Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:14 (eight years ago) link

xp
It sounds like "I Believe", so maybe it's a version of that? It also sounds like "It's the End of the World..." so I dunno.

Euler, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:16 (eight years ago) link

Can't wait for this, as this is my favorite R.E.M. album by quite a ways. This was the one where I REALLY got them as a band. And if these songs benefit from the remastering as much "Fables" did, I'll probably listen to it exclusively for days on end. "Begin the Begin"/"These Days" is as good as it gets for a one-two punch in the whole R.E.M. catalog.

Captain Hyrax (Phil D.), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:17 (eight years ago) link

That half acoustic, half electric thing they were after on Green should/could have been LRP - Guatemala, Swan, Fall on Me, Cuyahoga on one side and Begin the Begin, These Days on the other - problem is they didn't have enough examples of the latter and fleshed it out with light stuff like Superman/Bunker/JAT, which don't fit on the album IMO. Superman I love, but better as a standalone single.

Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:22 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

"My picture that I have of us breaking up is that we'd do a couple of really bad records...and then we'd go to a Chinese restaurant and get drinks with umbrellas in them and say 'you know guys it's been a really haul but we just don't have it anymore', you know, and have a good toast and go home"

Peter Buck 1998.

piscesx, Thursday, 22 September 2011 02:51 (seven years ago) link

How many bad records had they made at that point?

<- got off the bus with Out of Time

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 22 September 2011 03:09 (seven years ago) link

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Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 September 2011 03:11 (seven years ago) link

I just wanted to see Buck with the Baseball Project but he hurt his back and skipped a month of gigs.

So is Stipe gonna do an album with Patti Smith now that REM are broken up ?

curmudgeon, Thursday, 22 September 2011 03:31 (seven years ago) link

heard some REM news - yay

let me markers that for you http://tinyurl.com/6jdgf7f (cozen), Thursday, 22 September 2011 19:55 (seven years ago) link

lol

some dude, Thursday, 22 September 2011 22:49 (seven years ago) link

wait until you get the Bill Berry ''they've sucked the last decade'' interview now

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 22 September 2011 22:56 (seven years ago) link

album of the year?

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 September 2011 02:56 (seven years ago) link

when I heard this my first thought was 'but don't they have an album that is coming out pretty soon?" and then I remembered that it already came out, and I listened to it, and didn't remember anything about it. so I guess that says it all.

akm, Friday, 23 September 2011 05:58 (seven years ago) link

it's good, i find myself whistling the beginning of "it happened today" quite a lot

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 23 September 2011 12:58 (seven years ago) link

hearing "blue" now as their "riders on the storm." what a great band

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 September 2011 19:09 (seven years ago) link

do we think they knew it'd be the last album so threw their all into 'Collapse...' to go out with some dignity? i mean you know even the title suggests it.

piscesx, Friday, 23 September 2011 19:34 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

http://r-e-m-cycle.blogspot.com/

nate woolls, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:05 (seven years ago) link

Spotify is crazy comprehensive on these guys now; all the recent IRS years 2 disc remasters are there and even UP which was weirdly missing on there for years.

piscesx, Thursday, 22 March 2012 10:53 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

I don't which REM thread to put it on so I am putting a link to this nice live version of "Harborcoat" here
http://open.spotify.com/track/3xRaBjpIWB444tvpxAeP87

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 06:05 (seven years ago) link

Although this one is good too
http://open.spotify.com/track/3HvhvwCvKUbuIlxPNgUXfv

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 06:06 (seven years ago) link

except for the harmonica solo

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 06:07 (seven years ago) link

six years pass...

Looks 99% shit, unfortunately. One good show from 85, and the rest is garbage mid 90s / 2000s.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 6 September 2018 15:35 (one year ago) link

99% great, you mean.

It'll be great to have an official release of Milton Keynes '95 and that Jools special performance is where I heard the Up tracks for the first time prior to getting the album. It was so good it put all my fears of them continuing without Berry to rest.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 6 September 2018 17:39 (one year ago) link

rest is garbage mid 90s / 2000s.

― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, September 6, 2018 8:35 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a seven minute "country feedback" from 1998 is not going to suck

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 17:41 (one year ago) link

they never really stopped being an incredible live band imo. live versions of "walk unafraid" really cook, they're the reason its still one of my favorite r.e.m. songs

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 17:42 (one year ago) link

Clearly it was of interest to a lot of people or it wouldn't have been compiled and released. Unfortunately for me, I don't care to hear anything live from REM after 1991. Country Feedback being the exception, so good shout on that 7min version. I am very happy others are excited. It's good to be excited.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 6 September 2018 17:46 (one year ago) link

I could do without a couple of the Around the Sun tracks, but that's about it. Live versions of the 1998-2004 stuff have generally been better versions.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:18 (one year ago) link

a seven minute "country feedback" from 1998 is not going to suck

Is it the Neil Young one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CERhzm6t7I

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:41 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

The fact that he's doing something is brilliant news. It'd be a shame if he'd let that great voice of his go to waste.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 10 June 2019 13:16 (three months ago) link

Producer Marc Urselli posted this seven weeks ago on his Instagram account:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bwhxx9GHL2U/?hl=en

I love my musical life: yesterday I was in Oslo listening to extreme metal today I’m in New York City recording the mesmerizing #BillFrisell @billfrisellsmusic at @eastsidesoundstudios with the revolutionary producer @willnerh #HalWillner doing to overdubs for #MichaelStipe of #REM

No more info though...

EvR, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 08:52 (three months ago) link


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