OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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Ok is this a review or Ode to a Grecian Urn

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 05:26 (four years ago) link

that stately elvish homer in full

https://i.giphy.com/media/z2l1cinVfSyiY/giphy.gif

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 07:23 (four years ago) link

maybe Newsom rearranged all of her music into ragtime

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link

Having read that review, I didn't realize DiCrescenzo founded a school of journalism

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link

The use of "ragtime" (and "rococo ragtime" in the review itself! though that seems ever so slightly more accurate tbh) almost made me wonder if there was a bot-generated component to this review. But googling around finds that a number of reviews of Divers include it on a list of styles that inform the album, presumably referring to Sapokanikan. Which, I guess. but pretty random for that descriptor to get linked to that song, let alone artist.

Highly recommend dipping into that reviewer's oeuvre. She has a similarly florid review of Roskilde 2019, rife with pull-quotes for this thread.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link

i may be just tired of the del rey overhype moment but something about this one really bugged me
https://hyperallergic.com/515894/lana-del-rey-norman-fucking-rockwell/

Internet phenomenon turned Saturday Night Live laughing stock, her sustained popularity has perplexed those who would prefer to see brilliant women fail... based on her new album, she deserves comparison to the heavyweights of American mythology like Joni Mitchell and Joan Didion, Ernest Hemingway and Bob Dylan, Silvia Plath and Carole King.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

I mean, in the context of "I am profoundly uninterested in what this person has to say with their art" I am pretty okay with comparing LDR to Hemingway and Dylan

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link

well yeah i'm there with you but why not throw in lars von trier and evelyn waugh while you're at it

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link

Those comparisons are absurd

#YABASIC (morrisp), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

hemingway and dylan were both brilliant women

sock fingering, baby (rushomancy), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

Bob Dylan as Cate Blanchett

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

just like lana del rey

sock fingering, baby (rushomancy), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

who is Silvia Plath?

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

i think peter laughner, also a brilliant woman, once wrote a song about her

sock fingering, baby (rushomancy), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

Del Rey’s latest album is a culmination of the artist’s last four records, a singularity that allows her various personae to converge into higher form

not just one persona but personae

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

xp tbf, the unedited version of that quote makes it clear that there's some space between "brilliant women" and that breathless lineup of people you can write your senior report on

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

"various" as an adjective bothers me in most uses.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

who is Silvia Plath?

it's a typo: https://www.mixcloud.com/silvio-plath/stream/

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

That same year, Del Rey stopped performing in front of the American flag, viewing it as “inappropriate” for the Trump era. She changed her backdrop to a screen of static instead, a multifaceted commentary on the “white noise” of American politics and the dissociative phenomenon of living in the world’s wealthiest country, which also happens to jail children.

like i dunno if that's so much multifaceted as it is... monofaceted?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link

ohhhhhh, *that* Silvio Plath

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

Joni Mitchell and Joan Didion, Ernest Hemingway and Bob Dylan, Silvia Plath and Carole King

all spellbindingly human

mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link

Who are six people who've never been in my kitchen?

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link

That same year, Del Rey stopped performing in front of the American flag, viewing it as “inappropriate” for the Trump era. She changed her backdrop to a screen of static instead, a multifaceted commentary on the “white noise” of American politics and the dissociative phenomenon of living in the world’s wealthiest country, which also happens to jail children.

like i dunno if that's so much multifaceted as it is... monofaceted?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:15 AM (three minutes ago)

more "dumb as fuck" faceted

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

extremely appropriate for the trump era, tbf

sock fingering, baby (rushomancy), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

has perplexed those who would prefer to see brilliant women fail

love this construction, where the fact that everyone agrees the subject is brilliant is presented as a given

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

also the strawman internet chud bamboozled by LDR ascension when his druthers are, as a rule, to see brilliant women fail
imagining a masculinist america's funniest home video special where a parade of women in mortarboards, lab coats and astronaut suits keep stepping on rakes and slipping on banana peels

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

ove this construction, where the fact that everyone agrees the subject is brilliant is presented as a given

― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open),

Don't see the big deal?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

"Brilliant" is a cliche, though.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

Norman Fucking Rockwell! slaps in all the right places.

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link

Jesus Fucking Christ.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

someone needed to slap the keyboard out of that writer's hand

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link

couple of people in here really preferring to see brilliant women fail right now.

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link

or maybe it’s that some people love imposing brilliance on vapid people because they’re pretty

maura, Thursday, 12 September 2019 02:32 (four years ago) link

i do like seeing someone fail now and then but i'm not super picky about who

j., Thursday, 12 September 2019 03:24 (four years ago) link

I mean I like LDR but jfc comparing her to Joan Didion my god

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 September 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link

or maybe it’s that some people love imposing brilliance on vapid people because they’re pretty

I would like to put this on a t-shirt

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 12 September 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

Norman Fucking Rockwell! slaps in all the right places.
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, September 11, 2019 2:05 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

like "the face"

Mommy...can I go out and VAPE tonight? (voodoo chili), Thursday, 12 September 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

sorry, should clarify that brad was quoting somebody there

Mommy...can I go out and VAPE tonight? (voodoo chili), Thursday, 12 September 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

I keep imagining Meghan Trainor singing "All the right slaps/In all the right places"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 12 September 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link

I decided to read this piece as opposed to just making fun of it from afar and I don't think I'm going to get past the subhead:

The singer has defied critics and graduated summa cum laude from the pop pantheon into the hall of legends. Her latest album proves she deserves the respect of legends like Joni Mitchell and Carole King.

o rly

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 12 September 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link

It must be true. *dies*

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 September 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link

In 2012, Del Rey’s debut album, Born to Die, delivered a complex satire of American neediness far ahead of its time, which combined babylike vocals with crushing instrumentals and lyrics rife with literary references to everything from Walt Whitman to Vladimir Nabokov. The net effect was like listening to a toddler recite passages from The Bell Jar: mesmerizing and depressing

what

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 12 September 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link

If my toddler was reciting passages from The Bell Jar my reaction would probably be "HELLO WORLD? LOOK AT MY FUCKING TODDLER"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 12 September 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link

if my toddler recited passages from the bell jar i'd be like - this slaps

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Thursday, 12 September 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

Elsewhere, she’s gloriously despondent. “Fresh out of fucks forever,” she sings on the prodigious “Venice Bitch” song. “Ice cream, ice queen, I dream in jeans and leather.”

I don't think this writer knows the definitions of the words he is using.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 12 September 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link

Thesaurus.com got a lot of clicks that night

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 September 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link

Looks like that guy usually only writes about art

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 12 September 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link

Does the writer give any specific examples of how one of the "crushing instrumentals" aids the "complex satire of American neediness" or is that just one of those things people say when they mean "I like to get high and listen to this record and I hate Trump"?

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 12 September 2019 16:27 (four years ago) link

speaking of "crushing instrumentals" I would like both Lana Del Rey and Deafheaven more if she was their lead singer

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 12 September 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

she doesn't have the range

j., Thursday, 12 September 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link


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