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I really don't think Nils needed that much rehearsal, if any.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:40 (six years ago) link

Billy: "Hey Neil Nils keeps ending the song after three measures!"
Nils: "But that's how it is on the record"
Neil: "Goddammit Nils stop confusing them"

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:46 (six years ago) link

Nils:"Hey Billy I think yr hitting the wrong note there"
Billy:"Where? This one?"
Nils:"Yeah I don't think that's right"
Billy:"This is how I always play it"
Nils:"You didn't play it like that yesterday"
Billy: "NEIL!"
Neil: "Goddammit Nils!"

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link

lol
it is pretty funny how different it must be to play in the e-street band compared to crazy horse

tylerw, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:52 (six years ago) link

I think given Nils' skills they're both pretty amusing to him.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link

lots of Ds and E minors in both bands, iirc

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link

And Gs! Don't forget Gs!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 21:21 (six years ago) link

Plus some As and Cs.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 21:22 (six years ago) link

For it is written, in xgau's Rock Albums of the 70s:
Crazy Horse [Reprise, 1971]
The rhythms are deliberately deliberate, and maybe the reason four different guys sing lead is that they don't really trust Danny Whitten with the job. But this should throw a good scare into Neil Young even if they moved on with his blessing. It's literate both verbally (Jack Nitzsche's "Gone Dead Train" is white blues poetry) and musically (they hoe down, they rave up, they phase out, they rock and roll). With temp worker Nils Lofgren pitching them two titles, there's not a bad song on the record. Not a bad cut, either. A-
He really didn't like their other albums without Neil (or Danny or Jack or Nils) tho

dow, Thursday, 3 May 2018 00:26 (six years ago) link

Look at All the Things is one of the best songs ever

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 May 2018 01:58 (six years ago) link

This is so great

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 May 2018 03:01 (six years ago) link

I'd forgotten the backstory, never did know that much---how is the Rockets album?? (Bobby Notkoff and his violin were Rockets, only knew him from Michelle's Saturn's Rings, he was buddies with her and Curt Boettcher and Eliiot Ingber and Lowell George and other heads on her album)(but this says he was also on an Everybody Knows... track about the Rockets, so I've heard him there too, without knowing who it was). Don't think I ever knew that Young (according to this) also recorded "Look At All The Things," is it in the Archives? Anyway, they should have their own doc and/or book: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Horse_(band)#Early_years

dow, Thursday, 3 May 2018 03:58 (six years ago) link

Also educational (among many other details, there's an unreleased first version of this?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonight%27s_the_Night_(Neil_Young_album)

dow, Thursday, 3 May 2018 04:17 (six years ago) link

The Rockets album is good stuff, sludgy garage rock with some interesting detours (a couple, er, impressions of the Impressions, and a track called "Stretch Your Skin" which I shit you not is Roxy Music's first album four years too early).

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 May 2018 04:55 (six years ago) link

Hurry before it dissapears: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhsrENSFUCU

satans favourite son, Thursday, 3 May 2018 09:46 (six years ago) link

I watched the whole thing last night and man it was pretty fantastic, some clams and some Horse-y-ness in spots but fucking great. They could have played "Big Time" for two hours.

Nils fits in perfectly, he obv gets that the Horse aren't technicians, they're alchemists

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 3 May 2018 13:13 (six years ago) link

1. I've never been able to find any footage of CH with Danny, very curious as to his onstage presence. Did they do the huddles? did he solo?

2. Don't have the time to got through it all: does Nils play any solos here? what's with the synth descending from the heavens draped with a ratty ass blanket? does he play both pianos and the synth?

3. Where's Poncho? did I read that he doesn't get on with Neil anymore?

veronica moser, Thursday, 3 May 2018 13:31 (six years ago) link

2. He's not playing any solos, he's basically doing the Poncho role with some subtle differences, the synth from the heaves is the organ for Like A Hurricane and they've been doing that bit since Live Rust. Nils does play some piano.

3. No clue, don't believe anything has been said

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:39 (six years ago) link

I've never been able to find any footage of CH with Danny, very curious as to his onstage presence. Did they do the huddles? did he solo?

yeah, i wish there was more danny out there - i'm not sure i've ever seen any footage at all of him with neil

that live version of 'come on baby let's go downtown' on tonight's the night with danny on vocals is so great tho - he and neil play off each other in a palpably different way to neil and poncho

and live at the fillmore east with the original horse lineup just fuckin' whips from start to finish

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:48 (six years ago) link

"Yeah Nils, just show up at like 5...yeah, well I dunno Like A Hurricane probably...yeah...I'll email you the link to the Archives. Cool, see you next week."

lol, this all seems plausible. except i'm not sure that Neil knows how to copy and paste text, so he probably sent a picture of the link to the Archives

Karl Malone, Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:51 (six years ago) link

wrt Poncho I think Neil said something like "unfortunately Poncho couldn't be with us" or something to that effect and I read that he'd gotten his finger slammed in a bus door and really fucked it up?

who knows could be a cover for Neil passive aggressively cutting someone out for no reason...

...or honestly, maybe on some level he just needs Nils who's definitely way more pro to hold things together as Talbot's clearly not in great shape

1. I've never been able to find any footage of CH with Danny, very curious as to his onstage presence. Did they do the huddles? did he solo?

to me, one of the great "What ifs" in rock history...the Fillmore gig is so amazing, and yeah I love Poncho but he's limited, it's very tempting to wonder what would have happened if Whitten lived and Neil was pushed by someone who could really lock horns with him, like a Lloyd/Verlaine thing....

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:55 (six years ago) link

holy shit check out danny, billy and ralph here!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53CSOJZ1bIs

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link

yeah i think that is really the only footage of danny whitten out there, which is sort of nuts.

definitely too bad there aren't more early NY + Horse recordings — the fillmore show is from their last tour together, but they played pretty steadily throughout 1969.

tylerw, Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:24 (six years ago) link

I think the first-ever Crazy Horse footage is the mostly unreleased '76 tour stuff. The Whitten period was unfortunately during Neil's "Being filmed is for squares like CSNY maaaaaan" phase.

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link

neil v much not otm, sadly :(

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:34 (six years ago) link

where was bernard shakey when we needed him

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:35 (six years ago) link

haha yeah ...

anyway, i've listened to the whole first night at Fresno and it is awesome. some totally raging jams there.

except for a few fleeting moments, I don't think you'd be able to tell it's Nils and not Poncho up there.

tylerw, Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link

Just started listening to Danny By The River: NY&CH, Cincinnati 2-25-70, Opening w solo acoustic, "On The Way Home," now "Broken Arrow," sounds good, "Did you see him, in the river? He was there to wave to you."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9K5UwZewJM

dow, Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:47 (six years ago) link

So is there an unreleased first studio version of Tonight's The Night, like Scott Young quotes David Briggs as describing, and Neil confirming, in that xpost wiki re the album?

dow, Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:51 (six years ago) link

the "Briggs" early version of the record doesn't circulate, but I think it exists in Neil's archives, yeah.

tylerw, Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link

covered fairly extensively in the mcdonough bio

tylerw, Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:54 (six years ago) link

XP ...and a lot of what's on it ended up on the official album, On The Beach, and Decade. The big missing pieces are dialog tracks that were placed between the songs.

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:56 (six years ago) link

"where's the honey slides, Briggs?"

sleeve, Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link

I thought that the Briggs version was going to be released per the Archives masterplan that once existed?

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:12 (six years ago) link

hmm no brown paper placeholder graphic for an alt TNN one the NYA timeline :/

I know it was talked about
there's also no placeholder for Oceanside/Countryside which I know was discussed at some point. original Chrome Dreams and Homegrown are there though

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:15 (six years ago) link

If anyone is interested I

satans favourite son, Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link

If anyone is interested I created mp3s of the webstream. You can download them here

satans favourite son, Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link

aw thank you!

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link

thanks man! i was listening to a very solid audience recording, this is going to be an improvement.

tylerw, Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link

xxp and i thought that there was an oceanside/countryside placeholder at one point on the timeline? maybe i'm misremembering ... lol Neil is definitely making all of it up as he goes though ... it's not like the last two archives releases were even hinted at in previous years.

tylerw, Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:22 (six years ago) link

my numbers might be off but...god has Neil really released 16 studio albums since 2000?

omar little, Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:24 (six years ago) link

i really cannot keep up, i have a child to feed Neil!

omar little, Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:24 (six years ago) link

sounds about right ... i mean, he's on a roughly album-a-year schedule. unstoppable.

tylerw, Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link

Neil looks healthy enough, you don't need to feed him your child xp

DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link

"I ate a child, I'll last a while...."

DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link

lmao

omar little, Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link

at least 16

Are You Passionate
Prairie Wind
Living With War
Chrome Dreams II
Fork In The Road
Le Noise
A Treasure
A Letter Home
Storytone
Monsanto Years
Peace Trail
The Visitor
Paradox (is this live?)

w/CH
Greendale
Psychedelic Pill
Americana

sleeve, Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:29 (six years ago) link

i still love that at least a couple of us accurately predicted Neil Young would specifically release an anti-Monsanto album.

omar little, Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link

"I ate a child, I'll last a while...."
irl lol

that is a lot of albums

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2018 18:07 (six years ago) link

yeah not sure who else of his stature / age has kept up such a pace — willie nelson is probably the closest ... he puts out an album a year pretty much, i think.

tylerw, Thursday, 3 May 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link


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