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Poll Results

OptionVotes
On the Beach 12
Tonight's the Night 12
Rust Never Sleeps 12
After the Gold Rush 9
Sleeps With Angels 8
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere 7
Arc/Weld 3
Old Ways 3
Dead Man 2
Ragged Glory 2
Trans 2
Live Rust 2
Time Fades Away 1
Re-ac-tor 1
Zuma 1
Everybody's Rockin' 1
Mirror Ball 1
Harvest 1
Comes a Time 1
Broken Arrow 1
Hawks & Doves 1
Silver & Gold 0
Are You Passionate? 0
Greendale 0
Prairie Wind 0
Harvest Moon 0
Freedom 0
This Note's for You 0
Life 0
Landing on Water 0
Neil Young 0
American Stars 'N Bars 0
Living with War0


strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

oh shit decade

strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

and #s of boots. sorry gang. read my lips, vote dead man

strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

After The Gold Rush.

but On The Beach too. the title song makes me cry.

bakerstreetsaxsolo, Sunday, 17 June 2007 12:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

I voted Time Fades Away

Billy Pilgrim, Sunday, 17 June 2007 12:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

this was already done.
Best of Neil Young studio records

Zeno, Sunday, 17 June 2007 13:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

This one has live albums.

Some of them, anyway. (Unplugged, Year of the Horse, Road Rock vol. 1)

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh. The studio albums poll had the live albums too. Nevermind then.

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

I voted Ragged Glory because it needs more love and less rockism. That's a srsly good record, yo.

kenan, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

First person to vote "Old Ways" gets a dollar from me.

kenan, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

I voted for "Old Ways" just for the cash. You want my paypal address?

Rock Hardy, Sunday, 17 June 2007 18:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

After The Gold Rush = the good songs are so good they make you forget about the bad ones

On The Beach = pretty much all good

Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

I mean "When You Dance" is kind of endearing as a cornily sincere, b-level hippie artifact, but Cripple Creek Ferry is a real turd of a song, and Birds isn't great either.

Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

I got to get away from this day to day running around

calstars, Sunday, 17 June 2007 23:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

TRANS FTW!

circa1916, Sunday, 17 June 2007 23:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

Arc/Weld. The worst/best live albums ever.

SeekAltRoute, Monday, 18 June 2007 03:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dead Man is actually really really good.

MRZBW, Monday, 18 June 2007 08:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

Tonight's The Night

closely followed by Goldrush and On The Beach

TTN is definitely my favourite - it's so fucked, so moving. Tender, ragged and rocking in equal measure.

Baby Mellow My Mind aches so hard - the swell of pedal steel, touch of lonesome barroom piano, and Neil's voice actually breaking up.

Come On Baby Let's Go Downtown rocks. It sounds so triumphant in its hedonism yet the undercurrent is utterly bleak.

Other favourites - Everybody Knows, Rust, Zuma, Time Fades Away, Sleeps With Angels, Live Rust. Hell, there hardly any poor ones. I've not heard the infamous Landing On Water, but Are You Passionate was bloody awful. Trans is ace though.

Ragged Glory is great fun, one of his most satisfying rock records, but I wouldn't quite put it in the top rung of Neil albums.

Harvest - handful of great songs and some dreary stuff too. Overall, it's too slick, too polite. I like Neil a little scuffed around the edges.

Stew, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

Rust Never Sleeps has Powderfinger, for the win.

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

Anyone else notice how Apatow kept dropping the cover of Landing On Water all over Knocked Up. What's the deal with that? Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

talrose, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 06:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

Rust Never Sleeps for "Powderfinger", but also because of the individually peculiar time and place in which I first loved this record. Also, it's an incredibly balanced album in so many ways I can't be bothered to expand on here.

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 06:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

I noticed the curious product placement too, Tal. There's an interesting thread here devoted to Landing on Water.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

no "none of the above"????

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

just snuck in a vote for tonight's the night. right in the nick of time.

emotion of the less contained and calculated variety

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

me for tonights the night, too. its so close though - there are better songs on zuma and everybody knows, and almost enough to give the nod to one of them, but TTN takes it

69, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Tonight's The Night would be my second or third and very close.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 17:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

Rust Never Sleeps by a hair, for side one and Powderfinger alone (though nearly sunk by Welfare Mothers).

Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 18:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh c'mon, Welfare Mothers is great! My favorite Neil Young throwaway.

Jiminy Krokus, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

DIVORCEE

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

a 3-way tie this time then.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

Fair result.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

Wait. Zuma should've been much higher, though.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

c'est vrai

blunt, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

Someone voted for Everybody's Rockin' again.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

One vote for "Zuma"! No way!! This poll is corrupt!!!

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

"On the Beach" - there's an ILM album if ever there was one

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

Sleeps With Angels is way too high. And Freedom is way too low.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

The fact that Zuma ranked below Trans completely invalidates this poll.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

So, basically, I'm the only person who voted for "Zuma"? Don't believe it.

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

I wasn't around when CSN(and sometimes Y) were at their peak, so apologies for the following somewhat naive question:

How much of Neil Young's popularity in the 70s can be attributed to his association with CSN? The thought never really occurred to me until I was checking out CSN(Y)'s Allmusic entry today, which says "it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles".

Personally, I like Neil Young exponentially more than CSN(Y), so my gut feeling is that the majority of Neil Young's fans were there on account of his own talent. But was there a certain contingency of fans who cheered loudest for "Ohio" and "Helpless", contemplating to themselves at the Live Rust concerts that it would be better if CSN were up on stage too? Or was it more like "Why the hell does Neil Young ever play with them? They butchered 'Helpless'..."? Just wondering what the prevalent view was back in the day.

Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

When CSN and sometimes Y reunited for a predictably horrible album in 1988, Neil begged off the obligatory tour, saying, "I dunno man, those guys need some serious practice."

And that Allmusic statement strikes me as comically absurd.

Sara Sara Sara, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I admit it raised my eyebrow as well, but then I go the ILM search function, and the second thing I read on the Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young C/D S/D thread is "i'm more interested in the fact that CSN(Y) (or whatever) were actually REALLY POPULAR and BIG -- as in springsteen in '85/outkast or britney spears BIG. that's such a radical sea-change in mass public musical taste that deserves some comment, no?"

Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

On The Beach is very good, but would have voted Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, in fact i shall play it now

Alex in Denver, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

hi alex, how is the weather in denver? in frankfurt it has been raining most of the day. i would have voted <i>after the goldrush</i>, i think. but <i>on the beach</i> is a decent winner, too.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

i will never learn the ilm html tags...

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

weird

moscow_nights, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles

In their time their American album sales were HUGE. Their cultural cachet was such that their public greeted "Ohio" as a major statement. I'm wary of statements like AllMusic's, but the Shakey bio also makes the same suggestion.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

CSNY were huge because the Byrds, the Hollies, and the Buffalo Springfield had all been huge before.

Nubbelverbrennung, Monday, 26 November 2007 11:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

good piece tyler, thx!

here's how **takes sip of duck urine** economics works (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 September 2017 14:21 (one month ago) Permalink

btw that Dylan anecdote "That's real honest, Neil" is such an epic Dylan line

yeah, the cryptic burn hidden inside a gnomic compliment is classic dylan, the kind of statement that probably keeps the recipient up at night for decades afterwards

here's how **takes sip of duck urine** economics works (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 September 2017 14:25 (one month ago) Permalink

"Shit...did he say, 'That's real honest, Neil,' like he was being sarcastic? Or was it more, 'That's real honest, Neil,' which would be a compliment? Maybe it was, 'That's real honest, Neil,' which could be taken either way...?"

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 11 September 2017 15:10 (one month ago) Permalink

it does seem like neil has thought about it a lot haha ... during an interview last week he repeated the story, adding something like "uhh can you tell me if it's a good song, bob?"

tylerw, Monday, 11 September 2017 15:13 (one month ago) Permalink

Speaking of "Hitchhiker" the song, I just noticed he dropped a ref to Carrie Snodgress in the Le noise version, subbing "while the summer passed" for "with my Chicago lass".

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 00:01 (one month ago) Permalink

Also: Picked up the Uncut w/Tyler's Neil piece this weekend. Good stuff, but docked a few points for no sidebar on the mysterious lineage of "Doghouse".

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 00:13 (one month ago) Permalink

Completely enamored with Hitchhiker, it's a real fly on the wall experience.

Just for fun:

Hitchhiker			Earliest official appearance

Pocahontas 3:27 Rust Never Sleeps (1979) 3:22
Powderfinger 3:23 Rust Never Sleeps (1979) 5:30
Captain Kennedy 2:52 Hawks & Doves (1980) 2:50
Hawaii 2:38 n.a.
Give Me Strength 3:40 n.a.
Ride My Llama 1:50 Rust Never Sleeps (1979) 2:29
Hitchhiker 4:37 Le Noise (2010) 5:31
Campaigner 4:19 Decade (1977) 3:30
Human Highway 3:17 Comes A Time (1978) 3:09
The Old Country Waltz 3:37 American Stars 'N Bars (1977) 2:58

willem, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 07:53 (one month ago) Permalink

Ultimately I guess it's a good thing this didn't come out at the time as we might have been robbed of the Crazy Horse Powderfinger

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 13:57 (one month ago) Permalink

man this thing just sucks you in right away

the version of "Campaigner" is really really good

sleeve, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 14:02 (one month ago) Permalink

xpost Which we also might not have had if Lynyrd Skynyrd had recorded it as planned.

Chris L, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 14:09 (one month ago) Permalink

will be interesting when/if we get to hear "powderfinger" as recorded by neil and crazy horse during the Zuma sessions ...

also, if you haven't seen this, it's back on yoututbe for the time being:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EpdLMHJLrc

tylerw, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 14:13 (one month ago) Permalink

will be interesting when/if we get to hear "powderfinger" as recorded by neil and crazy horse during the Zuma sessions

[desire for archives vol ii intensifies]

here's how **takes sip of duck urine** economics works (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 14:15 (one month ago) Permalink

"Shit...did he say, 'That's real honest, Neil,' like he was being sarcastic? Or was it more, 'That's real honest, Neil,' which would be a compliment? Maybe it was, 'That's real honest, Neil,' which could be taken either way...?"

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 11 September 2017 15:10 (yesterday) Permalink

And esp considering how much coke he was on a the time and in general his tendency to edge toward paranoia I can easily see Neil turning this comment over in his head like this for decades.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 14:18 (one month ago) Permalink

"And then came paranoia, and it ran away with me
Bob said he liked this song, or was he just fucking around with me?"

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 14:24 (one month ago) Permalink

ok fine I guess I will try to find a free dl of this somewhere...

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 16:45 (one month ago) Permalink

Check the internet.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:31 (one month ago) Permalink

why don't you buy it and help support high-definition digital music players and saving the environment with electric cars

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:37 (one month ago) Permalink

i can't keep track of neil's decisions (can anyone?) - i see this (and all) his albums on spotify, didn't he remove them at some point? when did they get back on there?

marcos, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:42 (one month ago) Permalink

xpost To be fair, Neil releasing this is a little like recycling.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:43 (one month ago) Permalink

i can't find the vinyl anywhere now, i hope it's temporary and Neil's not going to consign it to the land of the Sleeps with Angels and Year of the Horse LPs.

nomar, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:44 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah he made a huge stink about taking them off streaming...said streaming was worse quality that AM radio (haha)...

then quietly all the stuff reappeared. i took it to mean that he accepted that PONO was a failure and that Spotify cut him a big check.

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:44 (one month ago) Permalink

You can't spell Spotify without the P and O from PONO.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:45 (one month ago) Permalink

xxp I got it for 18 bucks in my local store yesterday, sooo much cheaper than his previous vinyl

sleeve, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:46 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah for a while the geffen albums were all that spotify had, which was quietly beautiful in its own way. but now it's all up there, i think?

tylerw, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:50 (one month ago) Permalink

currently have no money to spend on records and don't feel *too* bad about not giving money directly to Neil tbh.

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:50 (one month ago) Permalink

i'm sure it'll be around...the LP was $15.99 on Amazon and i was waiting for my next round of points to hit, and then i look at it's $4 more and it's unavailable. i appreciate that this one isn't $80!

nomar, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:59 (one month ago) Permalink

xp seems like listening on spotify free and giving neil your ad money would be the better moral compromise

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:17 (one month ago) Permalink

I see you are unfamiliar with my opinions on spotify

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:20 (one month ago) Permalink

I am all too familiar with those opinions

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:27 (one month ago) Permalink

And esp considering how much coke he was on a the time and in general his tendency to edge toward paranoia I can easily see Neil turning this comment over in his head like this for decades.

― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, September 12, 2017 2:18 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

As Ginsberg said about Dylan on the Rolling Thunder tour, "His munificence was engorged with snow"

Gulley Jimson (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:31 (one month ago) Permalink

nomar - audiophile online retailers can be a good source when most of the regular places are sold out, looks to be in stock at musicdirect.com

i have bought vinyl here before

https://www.musicdirect.com/vinyl/Neil-Young-Hitchhiker-(Vinyl-LP)

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:52 (one month ago) Permalink

Forgot about Farm Aid! Neil and Promise etc "Like A Hurricane" in progress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg6-hljSb9E

dow, Sunday, 17 September 2017 02:15 (one month ago) Permalink

right now willie nelson is backing up someone who sucks really bad. i feel bad for willie

Karl Malone, Sunday, 17 September 2017 03:10 (one month ago) Permalink

oh, the performer is "willie nelson & family"

sorry if i dissed your son or something, willie, if you're reading this

Karl Malone, Sunday, 17 September 2017 03:11 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah, it was lucas nelson

sorry nelsons

Karl Malone, Sunday, 17 September 2017 03:18 (one month ago) Permalink

i miss fucking crazy horse.

sorry again nelsons

Karl Malone, Sunday, 17 September 2017 03:18 (one month ago) Permalink

Re-run of tonight's "Like A Hurricane" sounding good.

dow, Sunday, 17 September 2017 03:21 (one month ago) Permalink

To "Rockin' In The Free World", also solid.

dow, Sunday, 17 September 2017 03:22 (one month ago) Permalink

i click on that expecting to see some Willie and I get Dave Matthews.

nomar, Sunday, 17 September 2017 03:29 (one month ago) Permalink

ok it's for a good cause

nomar, Sunday, 17 September 2017 03:29 (one month ago) Permalink

Reminds me, my fave version of "Hitchiker" is from FarmAid 25: http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=HAqa1IuWFT8

dow, Sunday, 17 September 2017 04:02 (one month ago) Permalink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=HAqa1IuWFT8

dow, Sunday, 17 September 2017 04:02 (one month ago) Permalink

reading tylerw's Hitchhiker piece reminded me how good that 92 version is. It's super dark and haunting and always makes me imagine Neil as an old hermit warning people from a mountaintop. There was a version of Revolution Blues from the solo Trans tour on youtube a while ago that had that same vibe. I've often thought about making a compilation of stuff that carries that feeling (Pushed It Over from the Bitter End show would be another).

Also, found some innaresting youtube clips I hadn't seen before:

I read about this in Shakey but never saw it until today - it's a French interview circa 82 where he discusses his love of the Human League and Flock Of Seagulls among others, while sitting at home with a Hagstrom II in his lap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frSgDeNjfgo

Here's a psa video he did for the National Academy of Child Development, with a one-off version of I Am A Child:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMrIRPp47dA

and a promo spot from MTV where they give away the Shocking Pinks' Cadillac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu_0X0dLkPs

whitehallunity, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 02:37 (four weeks ago) Permalink

thanks for the 1992 hitchhiker tip. i hadn't heard it before and it's really really good!

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 02:55 (four weeks ago) Permalink

aw shit, sorry, realized that was in reference to tyler's piece on the song (http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2017/09/11/neil-young-a-hitchhiker-on-the-road/), which i somehow missed above! looking forward to going through that tonight :)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 02:57 (four weeks ago) Permalink

that 82 French Trans era interview has a lot of Cocaine Thoughts from Neil

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Slated for Archives 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=66&v=oHebRiT5Vmw

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 24 September 2017 13:31 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Finally getting to Hitchhiker and it is indeed a very mighty thing to behold.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Monday, 25 September 2017 01:06 (three weeks ago) Permalink


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