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Poll Results

OptionVotes
On the Beach 12
Tonight's the Night 12
Rust Never Sleeps 12
After the Gold Rush 9
Sleeps With Angels 8
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere 7
Arc/Weld 3
Old Ways 3
Dead Man 2
Ragged Glory 2
Trans 2
Live Rust 2
Time Fades Away 1
Re-ac-tor 1
Zuma 1
Everybody's Rockin' 1
Mirror Ball 1
Harvest 1
Comes a Time 1
Broken Arrow 1
Hawks & Doves 1
Silver & Gold 0
Are You Passionate? 0
Greendale 0
Prairie Wind 0
Harvest Moon 0
Freedom 0
This Note's for You 0
Life 0
Landing on Water 0
Neil Young 0
American Stars 'N Bars 0
Living with War0


strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:18 (thirteen years ago) link

oh shit decade

strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:21 (thirteen years ago) link

and #s of boots. sorry gang. read my lips, vote dead man

strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:22 (thirteen years ago) link

After The Gold Rush.

but On The Beach too. the title song makes me cry.

bakerstreetsaxsolo, Sunday, 17 June 2007 12:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted Time Fades Away

Billy Pilgrim, Sunday, 17 June 2007 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link

this was already done.
Best of Neil Young studio records

Zeno, Sunday, 17 June 2007 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link

This one has live albums.

Some of them, anyway. (Unplugged, Year of the Horse, Road Rock vol. 1)

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh. The studio albums poll had the live albums too. Nevermind then.

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted Ragged Glory because it needs more love and less rockism. That's a srsly good record, yo.

kenan, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

First person to vote "Old Ways" gets a dollar from me.

kenan, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for "Old Ways" just for the cash. You want my paypal address?

Rock Hardy, Sunday, 17 June 2007 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

After The Gold Rush = the good songs are so good they make you forget about the bad ones

On The Beach = pretty much all good

Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean "When You Dance" is kind of endearing as a cornily sincere, b-level hippie artifact, but Cripple Creek Ferry is a real turd of a song, and Birds isn't great either.

Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I got to get away from this day to day running around

calstars, Sunday, 17 June 2007 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

TRANS FTW!

circa1916, Sunday, 17 June 2007 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Arc/Weld. The worst/best live albums ever.

SeekAltRoute, Monday, 18 June 2007 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Dead Man is actually really really good.

MRZBW, Monday, 18 June 2007 08:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Tonight's The Night

closely followed by Goldrush and On The Beach

TTN is definitely my favourite - it's so fucked, so moving. Tender, ragged and rocking in equal measure.

Baby Mellow My Mind aches so hard - the swell of pedal steel, touch of lonesome barroom piano, and Neil's voice actually breaking up.

Come On Baby Let's Go Downtown rocks. It sounds so triumphant in its hedonism yet the undercurrent is utterly bleak.

Other favourites - Everybody Knows, Rust, Zuma, Time Fades Away, Sleeps With Angels, Live Rust. Hell, there hardly any poor ones. I've not heard the infamous Landing On Water, but Are You Passionate was bloody awful. Trans is ace though.

Ragged Glory is great fun, one of his most satisfying rock records, but I wouldn't quite put it in the top rung of Neil albums.

Harvest - handful of great songs and some dreary stuff too. Overall, it's too slick, too polite. I like Neil a little scuffed around the edges.

Stew, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Rust Never Sleeps has Powderfinger, for the win.

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyone else notice how Apatow kept dropping the cover of Landing On Water all over Knocked Up. What's the deal with that? Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

talrose, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 06:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Rust Never Sleeps for "Powderfinger", but also because of the individually peculiar time and place in which I first loved this record. Also, it's an incredibly balanced album in so many ways I can't be bothered to expand on here.

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 06:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

I noticed the curious product placement too, Tal. There's an interesting thread here devoted to Landing on Water.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link

no "none of the above"????

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link

just snuck in a vote for tonight's the night. right in the nick of time.

emotion of the less contained and calculated variety

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

me for tonights the night, too. its so close though - there are better songs on zuma and everybody knows, and almost enough to give the nod to one of them, but TTN takes it

69, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, Tonight's The Night would be my second or third and very close.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Rust Never Sleeps by a hair, for side one and Powderfinger alone (though nearly sunk by Welfare Mothers).

Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh c'mon, Welfare Mothers is great! My favorite Neil Young throwaway.

Jiminy Krokus, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

DIVORCEE

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

a 3-way tie this time then.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Fair result.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Wait. Zuma should've been much higher, though.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link

c'est vrai

blunt, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Someone voted for Everybody's Rockin' again.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

One vote for "Zuma"! No way!! This poll is corrupt!!!

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

"On the Beach" - there's an ILM album if ever there was one

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Sleeps With Angels is way too high. And Freedom is way too low.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

The fact that Zuma ranked below Trans completely invalidates this poll.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

So, basically, I'm the only person who voted for "Zuma"? Don't believe it.

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

I wasn't around when CSN(and sometimes Y) were at their peak, so apologies for the following somewhat naive question:

How much of Neil Young's popularity in the 70s can be attributed to his association with CSN? The thought never really occurred to me until I was checking out CSN(Y)'s Allmusic entry today, which says "it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles".

Personally, I like Neil Young exponentially more than CSN(Y), so my gut feeling is that the majority of Neil Young's fans were there on account of his own talent. But was there a certain contingency of fans who cheered loudest for "Ohio" and "Helpless", contemplating to themselves at the Live Rust concerts that it would be better if CSN were up on stage too? Or was it more like "Why the hell does Neil Young ever play with them? They butchered 'Helpless'..."? Just wondering what the prevalent view was back in the day.

Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

When CSN and sometimes Y reunited for a predictably horrible album in 1988, Neil begged off the obligatory tour, saying, "I dunno man, those guys need some serious practice."

And that Allmusic statement strikes me as comically absurd.

Sara Sara Sara, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I admit it raised my eyebrow as well, but then I go the ILM search function, and the second thing I read on the Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young C/D S/D thread is "i'm more interested in the fact that CSN(Y) (or whatever) were actually REALLY POPULAR and BIG -- as in springsteen in '85/outkast or britney spears BIG. that's such a radical sea-change in mass public musical taste that deserves some comment, no?"

Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

On The Beach is very good, but would have voted Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, in fact i shall play it now

Alex in Denver, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

hi alex, how is the weather in denver? in frankfurt it has been raining most of the day. i would have voted <i>after the goldrush</i>, i think. but <i>on the beach</i> is a decent winner, too.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

i will never learn the ilm html tags...

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

weird

moscow_nights, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:45 (twelve years ago) link

it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles

In their time their American album sales were HUGE. Their cultural cachet was such that their public greeted "Ohio" as a major statement. I'm wary of statements like AllMusic's, but the Shakey bio also makes the same suggestion.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:48 (twelve years ago) link

CSNY were huge because the Byrds, the Hollies, and the Buffalo Springfield had all been huge before.

Nubbelverbrennung, Monday, 26 November 2007 11:26 (twelve years ago) link

maybe this? Search and destroy: Neil Young

willem, Monday, 18 May 2020 07:50 (five months ago) link

That's the one, thanks!

Listening to Chrome Dreams II now, wow how did I sleep on "Ordinary People" for so long

the grateful dead can dance (anagram), Monday, 18 May 2020 08:59 (five months ago) link

well, neil also slept on it for about 20 years

tylerw, Monday, 18 May 2020 17:20 (five months ago) link

the Bluenote Cafe version is well worth hearing, some interesting differences

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 May 2020 17:32 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

OOOOOOOOH YEAAAAH BABY

this is the shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL_bqx4h6lU

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 June 2020 14:33 (four months ago) link

Yeah this slaps!

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 12 June 2020 15:53 (four months ago) link

HELL YEAH

sleeve, Friday, 12 June 2020 23:21 (four months ago) link

album streaming at https://neilyoungarchives.com/album?id=A_089

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 15:39 (four months ago) link

just listened...man "Separate Ways" is a stunner, real lost classic

loved it on first impression, kind of Harvest but with the down and out druggie vibes of On the Beach?

Florida is something! N01z3 dr0n3

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 15:47 (four months ago) link

Loving this. Go, 1975-Neil!!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 18:07 (four months ago) link

damn this is great

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 20:16 (four months ago) link

all her friends call her lil wayne

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 20:46 (four months ago) link

homegrown rules

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 22:12 (four months ago) link

an instant top-tier neil album for me. it's a weird experience, listening to it, because through my casual-to-intermediate fandom of his music, i've come across several of the songs, in different versions on other albums, or live. but these original versions are so fucking good! it sounds so good. the sound of mid-70s neil young is so warm, it's an instant comfort blanket

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 22:14 (four months ago) link

very cool to hear how part of Kansas follows the same melody line he would use later on Powderfinger...maybe a year later?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 22:17 (four months ago) link

not even a year later! and also, of course, how "love is a rose" uses the melody line from "dance, dance, dance" a few years before. borrowed tunes, as it were :)

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 18 June 2020 01:21 (four months ago) link

It's so fascinating to me when artists like Neil Young or Springsteen or Prince or Dylan or whomever can record albums worth of really good stuff, sometimes even their best stuff, and think, eh, and then shelve it for decades. I've always wondered if any artist can be so self aware or ego-free as to even distinguish their best albums from their worst, or if they're so busy going forward they don't even think about it. Like, I was reading the latest Tape Op, and there's a guy that worked on remastering "Band on the Run," and he's in the studio with Paul McCartney, and McCartney admits he'd never listened to the album as a finished artifact before.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 June 2020 02:29 (four months ago) link

neil, prince and dylan, sure, but is that actually true of springsteen? i remember thinking, the first time i heard "tracks," that springsteen had an amazing ear for his own work and instinctively understood what to keep and what to discard. i still can't think of a single track on "tracks" that i wish he had included on one of his studio albums.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 18 June 2020 02:39 (four months ago) link

holy shit, this album

"Homegrown" is an instant anthem, up there with any other tune of his you could name imo

"Florida" is maybe the weirdest fucking curveball he's ever thrown, which is saying a lot, love how it segues into "I woke up from a bad dream"

"Try" is perfect in every way

damn

sleeve, Thursday, 18 June 2020 03:59 (four months ago) link

yeah, honestly i don't like "florida" so much. but it really does stand out as a particularly experimental song for a musician in his position at the time

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 June 2020 04:39 (four months ago) link

"try" otm

that's the one that jumped out at me on first listen. was it known before now? i know true neil young fans have been familiar with all this material for years, but "try" was new to me

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 June 2020 04:40 (four months ago) link

When I first heard “Florida” I immediately thought : “This is his ‘The Gift’ “

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 18 June 2020 05:49 (four months ago) link

"florida" eventually turned into dead man and le noise, at least

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 June 2020 05:54 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

i peaced out on "lookin' for a leader" after "maybe it's a woman / or a black man after all"

sorry neil!

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 31 July 2020 21:10 (two months ago) link

Well holy shit I was at this show

Also in the works is the concert movie The Timeless Orpheum, which was filmed at the Orpheum Theater in Minneapolis, Minnesota, on January 28th, 2019.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 August 2020 20:03 (two months ago) link

^ hate myself for not going to that

budo jeru, Friday, 14 August 2020 20:06 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...
one month passes...

Neil Young Officially Releasing Legendary On The Beach Debut Concert Album

"Today Young announced that the full set is seeing official release for the first time. The Bottom Line – Citizen Cane Jr. Blues will be out in early 2021 and will mark the launch of Young’s Official Bootleg Series."

https://www.stereogum.com/2101611/neil-young-the-bottom-line-1974-official-bootleg/news/

nickn, Friday, 9 October 2020 04:31 (three weeks ago) link

oh awesome!!!!!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 October 2020 14:51 (three weeks ago) link

And apparently just the tip of the iceberg, at this point he has five others set for release along with that one, all due in April 2021:

The tentative release schedule is April 2021. Titles include:

Carnegie Hall Dec 4, 1970 - first show.
Royce Hall. January 30, 1971
Dorothy Chandler Pavillion (sic). Feb 1, 1971
Under The Rainbow. Nov 3, 1973
The Bottom Line aka ‘Citizen Kane Jr. Blues’ May 16, 1974
The Ducks - ‘Trick of Disaster’ August 1977

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 October 2020 14:59 (three weeks ago) link

dang, i think i've only heard the Bottom Line show out of those. did they finally get the dylan team to release this shit? impressive!

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Friday, 9 October 2020 15:30 (three weeks ago) link

Hell yeah the Ducks!!

J. Sam, Friday, 9 October 2020 16:06 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

Neil Young’s Older Brother Bob Young Releases First Song at Age 78

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/neil-young-brother-bob-young-song-1082862/

nickn, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 20:54 (two days ago) link

After The Gold Rush

50th Anniversary Edition

Available as LP box set and CD

Pre-order Tomorrow 10/30 at 9 AM PT pic.twitter.com/dsxrfYuTT8

— Neil Young Archives (@NeilYoungNYA) October 29, 2020

lol, ol Neil. was this even on the upcoming releases radar? not sure what's going to be on this and i don't know if you have to be an Archives subscriber to get this or not, just saw the tweet.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:15 (yesterday) link

on the site you can listen to it but so far only extras are two version of "wonderin'" (from archives) and "wonderin' (outtake)" (kinda different version but not a big deal)

INNARRESTING NEW(??) THING:

On the timeline there is now an entry for Freedom Live from 1990 --- tyler do you know what this could be?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:22 (yesterday) link

thanks, maybe one of these days i need to maybe sign up for that, but i am so rarely in a place where i can listen to music via browser.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:26 (yesterday) link

i think there was some talk of an unreleased 1970 solo show being appended to the ATGR 50th thing, but I don't know whether that's actually happening.

the Freedom Live thing has been there for a while I think — it might be the old VHS performance?

https://img.discogs.com/_WvzmFiLd3SeAjEBmwJ1mA5rWPc=/fit-in/600x451/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-3335930-1411220387-1597.jpeg.jpg

tylerw, Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:33 (yesterday) link

hilarious that he's flooding the market in the 4th quarter, though. I just turned in my review of Archives, vol. 2! eeeeeek!

tylerw, Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:33 (yesterday) link

i mean, i don't wanna complain about too much neil, esp considering how many projects he ripcords, but there's a lot out there! doesn't seem like 2021 is going to slow down at all either, esp if that bootleg series thing comes to pass (and, fingers crossed sooner rather than later for the stripped down Archives 2 for the rest of us!).

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:36 (yesterday) link

i think there was some talk of an unreleased 1970 solo show being appended to the ATGR 50th thing, but I don't know whether that's actually happening.

at a certain point i'm kinda good on early 70s neil young solo shows

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:04 (yesterday) link

otm - more Crazy Horse shows, or the Ducks, i'm happy with my solo Neil stuff for a bit.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:05 (yesterday) link

haha, yeah no kidding ... there is enough late 60s early 70s solo neil (at least compared to other stuff that should be out there). but the bootleg series is supposed to include like three separate solo shows from 1970.

tylerw, Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:08 (yesterday) link

ha, i think i blocked out the idea of that many more solo shows since my eyes were immediately drawn to the Ducks show

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:15 (yesterday) link

i mean the solo shows are good but i just looked and the upcoming young shakespeare tracklist is IDENTICAL to massey hall with one exception - young shakespeare has "sugar mountain" and massey hall doesn't....but of course sugar mountain is on canterbury 68

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:23 (yesterday) link

i mean if he's going to indulge in repetition, I'd rather he put out all of the 1970 Fillmore East Crazy Horse recordings. one disc of that stuff ain't enough, even if the setlists didn't change radically from night to night.

tylerw, Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:26 (yesterday) link

yeah totally, it's different cuz the jams will be different, but like at this point we know we was generally really excellent as a solo performer, but i don't think we are going to get anything that really turns your head

has boarding house ever been scheduled to be released?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:35 (yesterday) link

i don't think so, but it's been on the timeline since forever

tylerw, Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:41 (yesterday) link

thanks, maybe one of these days i need to maybe sign up for that, but i am so rarely in a place where i can listen to music via browser.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, October 29, 2020 4:26 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is also why I have never entertained the idea of subscribing

and cosign on the solo Neil saturation. It isn't like the performances differ all that much. I'd honestly be more interested in Neil's always-entertaining stoned banter, which I assume varied from night to night, than yet more indistinguishable performances of "Campaigner" or "The Needle And The Damage Done"

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 29 October 2020 22:05 (yesterday) link

you're missing out on the multi-part Lincvolt documentary

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 October 2020 22:08 (yesterday) link

man, that 1990 Catalyst show... just listened to the bootleg again, it blows me away every time. can't wait for the official + video version.

StanM, Thursday, 29 October 2020 23:41 (yesterday) link


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