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Poll Results

OptionVotes
On the Beach 12
Tonight's the Night 12
Rust Never Sleeps 12
After the Gold Rush 9
Sleeps With Angels 8
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere 7
Arc/Weld 3
Old Ways 3
Dead Man 2
Ragged Glory 2
Trans 2
Live Rust 2
Time Fades Away 1
Re-ac-tor 1
Zuma 1
Everybody's Rockin' 1
Mirror Ball 1
Harvest 1
Comes a Time 1
Broken Arrow 1
Hawks & Doves 1
Silver & Gold 0
Are You Passionate? 0
Greendale 0
Prairie Wind 0
Harvest Moon 0
Freedom 0
This Note's for You 0
Life 0
Landing on Water 0
Neil Young 0
American Stars 'N Bars 0
Living with War0


strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

oh shit decade

strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

and #s of boots. sorry gang. read my lips, vote dead man

strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

After The Gold Rush.

but On The Beach too. the title song makes me cry.

bakerstreetsaxsolo, Sunday, 17 June 2007 12:14 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I voted Time Fades Away

Billy Pilgrim, Sunday, 17 June 2007 12:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink

this was already done.
Best of Neil Young studio records

Zeno, Sunday, 17 June 2007 13:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

This one has live albums.

Some of them, anyway. (Unplugged, Year of the Horse, Road Rock vol. 1)

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:44 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Oh. The studio albums poll had the live albums too. Nevermind then.

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I voted Ragged Glory because it needs more love and less rockism. That's a srsly good record, yo.

kenan, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:47 (eleven years ago) Permalink

First person to vote "Old Ways" gets a dollar from me.

kenan, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I voted for "Old Ways" just for the cash. You want my paypal address?

Rock Hardy, Sunday, 17 June 2007 18:09 (eleven years ago) Permalink

After The Gold Rush = the good songs are so good they make you forget about the bad ones

On The Beach = pretty much all good

Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I mean "When You Dance" is kind of endearing as a cornily sincere, b-level hippie artifact, but Cripple Creek Ferry is a real turd of a song, and Birds isn't great either.

Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:27 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I got to get away from this day to day running around

calstars, Sunday, 17 June 2007 23:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

TRANS FTW!

circa1916, Sunday, 17 June 2007 23:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Arc/Weld. The worst/best live albums ever.

SeekAltRoute, Monday, 18 June 2007 03:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Dead Man is actually really really good.

MRZBW, Monday, 18 June 2007 08:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Tonight's The Night

closely followed by Goldrush and On The Beach

TTN is definitely my favourite - it's so fucked, so moving. Tender, ragged and rocking in equal measure.

Baby Mellow My Mind aches so hard - the swell of pedal steel, touch of lonesome barroom piano, and Neil's voice actually breaking up.

Come On Baby Let's Go Downtown rocks. It sounds so triumphant in its hedonism yet the undercurrent is utterly bleak.

Other favourites - Everybody Knows, Rust, Zuma, Time Fades Away, Sleeps With Angels, Live Rust. Hell, there hardly any poor ones. I've not heard the infamous Landing On Water, but Are You Passionate was bloody awful. Trans is ace though.

Ragged Glory is great fun, one of his most satisfying rock records, but I wouldn't quite put it in the top rung of Neil albums.

Harvest - handful of great songs and some dreary stuff too. Overall, it's too slick, too polite. I like Neil a little scuffed around the edges.

Stew, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Rust Never Sleeps has Powderfinger, for the win.

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Anyone else notice how Apatow kept dropping the cover of Landing On Water all over Knocked Up. What's the deal with that? Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

talrose, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 06:02 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Rust Never Sleeps for "Powderfinger", but also because of the individually peculiar time and place in which I first loved this record. Also, it's an incredibly balanced album in so many ways I can't be bothered to expand on here.

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 06:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

I noticed the curious product placement too, Tal. There's an interesting thread here devoted to Landing on Water.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:12 (eleven years ago) Permalink

no "none of the above"????

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

just snuck in a vote for tonight's the night. right in the nick of time.

emotion of the less contained and calculated variety

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

me for tonights the night, too. its so close though - there are better songs on zuma and everybody knows, and almost enough to give the nod to one of them, but TTN takes it

69, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Tonight's The Night would be my second or third and very close.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 17:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Rust Never Sleeps by a hair, for side one and Powderfinger alone (though nearly sunk by Welfare Mothers).

Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 18:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Oh c'mon, Welfare Mothers is great! My favorite Neil Young throwaway.

Jiminy Krokus, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

DIVORCEE

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

a 3-way tie this time then.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Fair result.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Wait. Zuma should've been much higher, though.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:47 (eleven years ago) Permalink

c'est vrai

blunt, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Someone voted for Everybody's Rockin' again.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

One vote for "Zuma"! No way!! This poll is corrupt!!!

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"On the Beach" - there's an ILM album if ever there was one

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Sleeps With Angels is way too high. And Freedom is way too low.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

The fact that Zuma ranked below Trans completely invalidates this poll.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

So, basically, I'm the only person who voted for "Zuma"? Don't believe it.

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

I wasn't around when CSN(and sometimes Y) were at their peak, so apologies for the following somewhat naive question:

How much of Neil Young's popularity in the 70s can be attributed to his association with CSN? The thought never really occurred to me until I was checking out CSN(Y)'s Allmusic entry today, which says "it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles".

Personally, I like Neil Young exponentially more than CSN(Y), so my gut feeling is that the majority of Neil Young's fans were there on account of his own talent. But was there a certain contingency of fans who cheered loudest for "Ohio" and "Helpless", contemplating to themselves at the Live Rust concerts that it would be better if CSN were up on stage too? Or was it more like "Why the hell does Neil Young ever play with them? They butchered 'Helpless'..."? Just wondering what the prevalent view was back in the day.

Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink

When CSN and sometimes Y reunited for a predictably horrible album in 1988, Neil begged off the obligatory tour, saying, "I dunno man, those guys need some serious practice."

And that Allmusic statement strikes me as comically absurd.

Sara Sara Sara, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I admit it raised my eyebrow as well, but then I go the ILM search function, and the second thing I read on the Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young C/D S/D thread is "i'm more interested in the fact that CSN(Y) (or whatever) were actually REALLY POPULAR and BIG -- as in springsteen in '85/outkast or britney spears BIG. that's such a radical sea-change in mass public musical taste that deserves some comment, no?"

Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:23 (eleven years ago) Permalink

On The Beach is very good, but would have voted Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, in fact i shall play it now

Alex in Denver, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

hi alex, how is the weather in denver? in frankfurt it has been raining most of the day. i would have voted <i>after the goldrush</i>, i think. but <i>on the beach</i> is a decent winner, too.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i will never learn the ilm html tags...

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink

weird

moscow_nights, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles

In their time their American album sales were HUGE. Their cultural cachet was such that their public greeted "Ohio" as a major statement. I'm wary of statements like AllMusic's, but the Shakey bio also makes the same suggestion.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:48 (eleven years ago) Permalink

CSNY were huge because the Byrds, the Hollies, and the Buffalo Springfield had all been huge before.

Nubbelverbrennung, Monday, 26 November 2007 11:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I posted this upthread a bit but so the reggae breakdown on that record always reminds me of this:

Kind of right before I got into Neil circa "Freedom" I was at this summer camp & these slightly older teenage burn out dudes would jam "Live Rust" all the time & specifically they loved that reggae break down, they lived for it, they probably would have referred to Neil as their second, or probably third after Clapton, favorite reggae artists.

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chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:32 (one month ago) Permalink

plenty bad man

I am message board pro and respond when talked to (stevie), Thursday, 28 March 2019 23:10 (one month ago) Permalink

it's certainly weird, but it also pops into my head whenever i listen to the original

― Neus Anneus (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:07 (two days ago

Ha! I'm glad this doesn't happen to me.

Duke, Saturday, 30 March 2019 14:37 (one month ago) Permalink

the Cortez off the bootleg of the Nils Crazy Horse show they did in Sacramento a while back was really great

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 30 March 2019 16:59 (one month ago) Permalink

xp still one of my all-time favorite songs

Neus Anneus (voodoo chili), Saturday, 30 March 2019 22:22 (one month ago) Permalink

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/neil-young-and-crazy-horse-to-record-new-album-820151/amp/

In related news, this delays 4 previously announced Archive projects (if it actually happens)

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 16:24 (one month ago) Permalink

v weird to imagine the horse without poncho

he once took my hand and poked Neil Armstrong in the butt (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:00 (one month ago) Permalink

he's not on the early stuff

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:23 (one month ago) Permalink

well, yeah, but he was the horse’s guitarist more than 10 times longer than Danny Whitten was

he once took my hand and poked Neil Armstrong in the butt (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:29 (one month ago) Permalink

agree that nils is kinda being retconned into crazy horse (at least Neil Young & Crazy Horse), but it's not as though they're bringing like jeff ament into the band ... lofgren started playing with these guys in 1970, and the recent CH shows with him have been solid. Sampedro being out is weird, but if he wants to retire, that is cool.

tylerw, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:34 (one month ago) Permalink

It’s funny, I find Neil’s bullshit tiresome these days, while I can mostly ignore Dylan’s bullshit for some reason, as long as I keep getting Bootleg Series.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:49 (one month ago) Permalink

I mean...I agree that Nils' Crazy Horse ties (basically the first CH album) are overstated...but I mean he's on Gold Rush and TNN and other stuff I guess I consider him to be part of Neil's larger posse in general, he's a great guitarist so it feels natural to me, the shows they did with him sound great...

I also as much as I like Poncho and I do LOVE the CH stuff he's on...there's definitely hints on Fillmore East of what could have been a more impressive band IMO, if Danny was living and functional, like someone who could push Neil a bit musically and contribute himself....

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:57 (one month ago) Permalink

Nils was a Santa Monica Flyer, which absolutely counts as Horse duty.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 18:47 (one month ago) Permalink

Those clips of Nils back with the Horse ... it really could be anyone. It sounded great, but he was totally de-Nils-ed.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 21:16 (one month ago) Permalink

He was effective on the Live In Berlin video show, dancing and serenading Neil in his Transmask.

dow, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 23:36 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

New live album featuring the Stray Gators band, Tuscaloosa, coming out in June.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjMZrMEY4dQ

Track listing:

Here We Are In The Years (3:56)
After The Gold Rush (4:42)
Out On The Weekend (5:29)
Harvest (4:14)
Old Man (4:17)
Heart Of Gold (3:48)
Time Fades Away (6:10)
Lookout Joe (4:59)
New Mama (3:01)
Alabama (3:50)
Don’t Be Denied (8:09)

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 26 April 2019 18:01 (one month ago) Permalink

More info from The Second Disc

While he’s been forging ahead in the studio with Crazy Horse, Neil Young’s responses to fans on the Archives website indicate there’s no sign of stopping the vault releases. Homegrown, Odeon/Budokan, the Crazy Horse live document Alchemy, a remastered Trans and accompanying film, Freedom Live, Oceanside/Countryside, a Mirror Ball reissue, and more are all said to be in various stages of completion.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 29 April 2019 19:39 (four weeks ago) Permalink

are all said to be in various stages of completion.

"OK, Neil, we've got good news and bad news."

"Gimme the good news first."

"Well, your vault recordings are all set for release immediately--"

"Great!"

"...on Pono."

"Goddammit."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 29 April 2019 20:06 (four weeks ago) Permalink

are all said to be in various stages of completion.

"Hey you know that paper is due tomorrow?"
"Yeah I'm on it"
"Are you done with it?"
"Oh yeah"
"Can I read it?"
"Oh...well I haven't like... TYPED it out yet"

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 29 April 2019 20:12 (four weeks ago) Permalink

ah yes, the brainstorming phase. the first and very best stage of completion

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 29 April 2019 20:41 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Not exactly excited by that Tuscaloosa album. I have a dozen or more versions of many of its tracks. Getting slightly annoyed with Neil's propensity for churning out more and more of the same material

Duke, Monday, 29 April 2019 20:49 (four weeks ago) Permalink

dunno -- it's got a lot of rarely played tunes — "time fades away," "alabama," "lookout joe" etc. I've heard a promo stream and it's definitely a nice companion to TFA, the stray gators sound perfect. lotta good ben keith action.

tylerw, Monday, 29 April 2019 20:56 (four weeks ago) Permalink

meanwhile!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5WgIN_W0AEzvJp.jpg

tylerw, Monday, 29 April 2019 21:45 (four weeks ago) Permalink

"one to stand alongside... all the others"
don't ever change Neil

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 29 April 2019 23:08 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Still want that Sleeps With Angels re-ish

omar little, Monday, 29 April 2019 23:15 (four weeks ago) Permalink

so I picked up that Dead Man soundtrack reissue, and it's really good! As in, really REALLY good. I saw the film at the cinema when it came out but not since and I remember the soundtrack added to the weird old west atmosphere, but it really works as a record too. I suppose YMMV when it comes to some of the Johnny Depp-heavy dialogue excerpts but I think he reins it in in that film, so they add to the vibes.

Neil S, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 07:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Just watched Neil's 1995 HOF speech for the first time ever--beautifully droll.

clemenza, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 00:55 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Our school concert last night (hopefully won't get pulled down for copyright). I need to keep the URL unlisted for obvious reasons.

http://youtu.be/t1h5GA58AX4

clemenza, Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

did you want me to cry today or what man

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:24 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Cool performance, thanks. Is it really a copyright infringement for a school choir/band to perform a song in public w/o permission?

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:26 (three weeks ago) Permalink

And for that performance to be posted online?

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:27 (three weeks ago) Permalink

doesn't he sing "mother nature on the run in the 21st century" nowadays?

StanM, Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:27 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I was wondering if you'd cut the "felt like getting high" line completely, but you changed it to "felt like I was high" which is a good compromise.

nickn, Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:35 (three weeks ago) Permalink

oh man clemenza that gets me...wrt to the lyrics i posted this upthread somewhere in the mess but i used to sing this to my girl all the time w/lyrical edits

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown) wrote this on thread neil young on board I Love Music on Jul 14, 2014

btw, when she was little for some reason i ran out of songs to sing to my daughter singing her to sleep so i started singing "after the gold rush"

now it's kind of a tradition "the song that daddy sings"...but she's almost 4 now and i'm realizing what a bummer the lyrics are so i've done some changes so she won't be all warped and depressed and shit

Well, I dreamed I saw the knights
In armor coming,
Saying something about a queen.
There were peasants singing and
Drummers drumming
And the archer split the tree.
There was a fanfare blowing
To the sun
That was floating on the breeze.
Look at Mother Nature [having fun]
In the nineteen seventies.
Look at Mother Nature [having fun]
In the nineteen seventies.

I was lying in a [cozy] basement
With the full moon in my eyes.
I was [listening to the Replacements]
When the sun burst thru the sky.
There was a band playing in my head
And I [was a lucky guy]
I was thinking about what a
Friend had said
I was hoping [that he'd say "Hi!"]
Thinking about what a
Friend had said
I was hoping [that he'd say "Hi!"]

Well, I dreamed I saw the silver
Space ships flying
In the yellow haze of the sun,
There were children [laughing]
And colors flying
All around the chosen ones.
All in a dream, all in a dream
The loading had begun.
They were flying Mother Nature's
Silver seed to a new home in the sun.
Flying Mother Nature's
Silver seed to a new home.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:38 (three weeks ago) Permalink

there is absolutely no valid reason why homegrown hasn't been released yet, and it infuriates me to no end

J. Sam, Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Neil still playing with Promise of the Real still sucks too

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 May 2019 19:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

It's clearly impossible to release more than one album at a time

Duke, Thursday, 2 May 2019 19:45 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Thanks...We did have to alter that line, yeah (didn't even bother running it by the principal, who probably would have asked us to pick a different song altogether).

I guess it's not a copyright issue. I posted a video once where I was lip-synching in class to Dylan's "She Belongs to Me," but I was using the actual recording there, which is different. It was blocked immediately (and a week later Bob Dylan came to my house and threatened me).

clemenza, Thursday, 2 May 2019 19:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

UMS: great story, missed that. It's such a beautiful, childlike melody.

clemenza, Thursday, 2 May 2019 19:55 (three weeks ago) Permalink

UMS that's incredibly sweet, and also extremely funny.

One Eye Open, Thursday, 2 May 2019 20:00 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Loving the kid miming archery on the right!

Tiltin' My Lens Photography (stevie), Thursday, 2 May 2019 22:26 (three weeks ago) Permalink

And flossing, and air-guitaring. He's something else.

clemenza, Friday, 3 May 2019 03:52 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Great video!

Also, this is the first time I ever noticed, after decades of listening to this song, that the lyric *doesn't* read "the loading OF THE GUN" (I had to check Genius to be sure).

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Friday, 3 May 2019 04:12 (three weeks ago) Permalink

clemenza you should send that to Neil

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 3 May 2019 04:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Be careful, he might fire Nils and replace him with Air-Guitar Kid.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 May 2019 04:28 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Neil Young & Crazy Horse & Kid Who Flosses

We did "Till the Morning Comes" last year and I looked into that, but I didn't get anywhere finding a address that looked usable. If anyone knows of something--management, agent, etc.--I'd try it. I don't think it would be worth the trouble sending it to the record label.

clemenza, Friday, 3 May 2019 12:30 (three weeks ago) Permalink

"I'd do it"

clemenza, Friday, 3 May 2019 12:30 (three weeks ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Nice----will look for a post of this show (after mandated holiday slog):
https://datebook.sfchronicle.com/festivals/bottlerock-cuts-short-neil-youngs-headlining-set

dow, Sunday, 26 May 2019 15:39 (yesterday) Permalink

They've been killing it on this tour imo

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Sunday, 26 May 2019 15:53 (yesterday) Permalink


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