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Poll Results

OptionVotes
On the Beach 12
Tonight's the Night 12
Rust Never Sleeps 12
After the Gold Rush 9
Sleeps With Angels 8
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere 7
Arc/Weld 3
Old Ways 3
Dead Man 2
Ragged Glory 2
Trans 2
Live Rust 2
Time Fades Away 1
Re-ac-tor 1
Zuma 1
Everybody's Rockin' 1
Mirror Ball 1
Harvest 1
Comes a Time 1
Broken Arrow 1
Hawks & Doves 1
Silver & Gold 0
Are You Passionate? 0
Greendale 0
Prairie Wind 0
Harvest Moon 0
Freedom 0
This Note's for You 0
Life 0
Landing on Water 0
Neil Young 0
American Stars 'N Bars 0
Living with War0


strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

oh shit decade

strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

and #s of boots. sorry gang. read my lips, vote dead man

strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

After The Gold Rush.

but On The Beach too. the title song makes me cry.

bakerstreetsaxsolo, Sunday, 17 June 2007 12:14 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I voted Time Fades Away

Billy Pilgrim, Sunday, 17 June 2007 12:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink

this was already done.
Best of Neil Young studio records

Zeno, Sunday, 17 June 2007 13:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

This one has live albums.

Some of them, anyway. (Unplugged, Year of the Horse, Road Rock vol. 1)

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:44 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Oh. The studio albums poll had the live albums too. Nevermind then.

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I voted Ragged Glory because it needs more love and less rockism. That's a srsly good record, yo.

kenan, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:47 (eleven years ago) Permalink

First person to vote "Old Ways" gets a dollar from me.

kenan, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I voted for "Old Ways" just for the cash. You want my paypal address?

Rock Hardy, Sunday, 17 June 2007 18:09 (eleven years ago) Permalink

After The Gold Rush = the good songs are so good they make you forget about the bad ones

On The Beach = pretty much all good

Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I mean "When You Dance" is kind of endearing as a cornily sincere, b-level hippie artifact, but Cripple Creek Ferry is a real turd of a song, and Birds isn't great either.

Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:27 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I got to get away from this day to day running around

calstars, Sunday, 17 June 2007 23:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

TRANS FTW!

circa1916, Sunday, 17 June 2007 23:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Arc/Weld. The worst/best live albums ever.

SeekAltRoute, Monday, 18 June 2007 03:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Dead Man is actually really really good.

MRZBW, Monday, 18 June 2007 08:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Tonight's The Night

closely followed by Goldrush and On The Beach

TTN is definitely my favourite - it's so fucked, so moving. Tender, ragged and rocking in equal measure.

Baby Mellow My Mind aches so hard - the swell of pedal steel, touch of lonesome barroom piano, and Neil's voice actually breaking up.

Come On Baby Let's Go Downtown rocks. It sounds so triumphant in its hedonism yet the undercurrent is utterly bleak.

Other favourites - Everybody Knows, Rust, Zuma, Time Fades Away, Sleeps With Angels, Live Rust. Hell, there hardly any poor ones. I've not heard the infamous Landing On Water, but Are You Passionate was bloody awful. Trans is ace though.

Ragged Glory is great fun, one of his most satisfying rock records, but I wouldn't quite put it in the top rung of Neil albums.

Harvest - handful of great songs and some dreary stuff too. Overall, it's too slick, too polite. I like Neil a little scuffed around the edges.

Stew, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Rust Never Sleeps has Powderfinger, for the win.

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Anyone else notice how Apatow kept dropping the cover of Landing On Water all over Knocked Up. What's the deal with that? Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

talrose, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 06:02 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Rust Never Sleeps for "Powderfinger", but also because of the individually peculiar time and place in which I first loved this record. Also, it's an incredibly balanced album in so many ways I can't be bothered to expand on here.

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 06:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

I noticed the curious product placement too, Tal. There's an interesting thread here devoted to Landing on Water.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:12 (eleven years ago) Permalink

no "none of the above"????

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

just snuck in a vote for tonight's the night. right in the nick of time.

emotion of the less contained and calculated variety

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

me for tonights the night, too. its so close though - there are better songs on zuma and everybody knows, and almost enough to give the nod to one of them, but TTN takes it

69, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Tonight's The Night would be my second or third and very close.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 17:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Rust Never Sleeps by a hair, for side one and Powderfinger alone (though nearly sunk by Welfare Mothers).

Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 18:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Oh c'mon, Welfare Mothers is great! My favorite Neil Young throwaway.

Jiminy Krokus, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

DIVORCEE

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

a 3-way tie this time then.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Fair result.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Wait. Zuma should've been much higher, though.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:47 (eleven years ago) Permalink

c'est vrai

blunt, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Someone voted for Everybody's Rockin' again.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

One vote for "Zuma"! No way!! This poll is corrupt!!!

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"On the Beach" - there's an ILM album if ever there was one

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Sleeps With Angels is way too high. And Freedom is way too low.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

The fact that Zuma ranked below Trans completely invalidates this poll.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

So, basically, I'm the only person who voted for "Zuma"? Don't believe it.

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

I wasn't around when CSN(and sometimes Y) were at their peak, so apologies for the following somewhat naive question:

How much of Neil Young's popularity in the 70s can be attributed to his association with CSN? The thought never really occurred to me until I was checking out CSN(Y)'s Allmusic entry today, which says "it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles".

Personally, I like Neil Young exponentially more than CSN(Y), so my gut feeling is that the majority of Neil Young's fans were there on account of his own talent. But was there a certain contingency of fans who cheered loudest for "Ohio" and "Helpless", contemplating to themselves at the Live Rust concerts that it would be better if CSN were up on stage too? Or was it more like "Why the hell does Neil Young ever play with them? They butchered 'Helpless'..."? Just wondering what the prevalent view was back in the day.

Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

When CSN and sometimes Y reunited for a predictably horrible album in 1988, Neil begged off the obligatory tour, saying, "I dunno man, those guys need some serious practice."

And that Allmusic statement strikes me as comically absurd.

Sara Sara Sara, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I admit it raised my eyebrow as well, but then I go the ILM search function, and the second thing I read on the Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young C/D S/D thread is "i'm more interested in the fact that CSN(Y) (or whatever) were actually REALLY POPULAR and BIG -- as in springsteen in '85/outkast or britney spears BIG. that's such a radical sea-change in mass public musical taste that deserves some comment, no?"

Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

On The Beach is very good, but would have voted Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, in fact i shall play it now

Alex in Denver, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

hi alex, how is the weather in denver? in frankfurt it has been raining most of the day. i would have voted <i>after the goldrush</i>, i think. but <i>on the beach</i> is a decent winner, too.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

i will never learn the ilm html tags...

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

weird

moscow_nights, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles

In their time their American album sales were HUGE. Their cultural cachet was such that their public greeted "Ohio" as a major statement. I'm wary of statements like AllMusic's, but the Shakey bio also makes the same suggestion.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

CSNY were huge because the Byrds, the Hollies, and the Buffalo Springfield had all been huge before.

Nubbelverbrennung, Monday, 26 November 2007 11:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

if only people had seen the video, Trans would have been a massive hit...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om2Lt94Ltw4

niels, Thursday, 10 May 2018 10:50 (two months ago) Permalink

the whole show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqHcb7M5ZN8

StanM, Thursday, 10 May 2018 11:08 (two months ago) Permalink

man i love 'sample and hold' so much

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 10 May 2018 11:32 (two months ago) Permalink

Watching that has me hoping NY found a way to sneak Lofgren’s “Transformer Man” interprative dancing into the this Crazy Horse tour.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 10 May 2018 12:14 (two months ago) Permalink

they should do Beggar's Day too, seeing as Nils did it with Crazy Horse and sang it with Neil on the Trans tour (unfortunately not included in the Berlin video)

whitehallunity, Thursday, 10 May 2018 15:48 (two months ago) Permalink

fucking with the Roxy record now: don't think I've ever heard a celebratedly imperfect band play a live set that so closely approximates the sound of a studio record. the harmonies on "New mama" are tight as fukk re: TtN. makes me even more impressed that Talbot and Molina could sing as well as they did, Danny and the memories and shit tons of tequila, honey slides etc notwithstanding. or did Nils do most of the heavy lifting, singing-wise? no harmonies on "walk On", and no "lookout Joe" (yes yes, leftover from Harvest), "borrowed tune" and "Cmon baby" (also understandable).

and take a bow in the hereafter, Ben Keith.

veronica moser, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:33 (two months ago) Permalink

that's a really good point about the singing. I've thought about that quite a bit over the years, specifically how Crazy Horse were able to sing well-to-great despite whatever debauchery went on, vs CSNY sounding ear-grating on most live stuff. I mean, I get that Neil isn't exactly the easiest guy to sing with, but c'mon. New Mama's a good comparison point - try to sit through the harmonies on this version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90LpT1OfOBY

whitehallunity, Friday, 11 May 2018 15:57 (two months ago) Permalink

ben keith was a total fuckin wizard

remember crazy horse had were doowop fiends before they became the world’s greatest knuckle-dragging neanderthal backing band

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 11 May 2018 16:05 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah nash and neil have never really sounded that great together to my ears (there are probably a few exceptions i'm not thinking of). santa monica flyers harmonies on the live "New Mama" form Tonight's the Night Live are pretty amazing.

tylerw, Friday, 11 May 2018 16:58 (two months ago) Permalink

oh and this may be relevant: https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/173704794292/cowgirl-in-the-sand-the-losing-end-neil

tylerw, Friday, 11 May 2018 16:59 (two months ago) Permalink

New Mama's a good comparison point - try to sit through the harmonies on this version

i don't think it's the harmony singers who are the primary problem on that harvest tour version. ouch.

but yeah, neil and the horse's harmonies have been a thing of magic and beauty through the years and decades.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 11 May 2018 17:22 (two months ago) Permalink

haha, yeah, Neil's a little, uh, ragged on that tour, that's true. There's some gems there too though, like the few acoustic versions of 'L.A.' (my favourite Neil song) and the early 'Last Dance' renditions with Buttrey on drums where they do this stop/start kinda woozy thing in the 'working on your own time' section that Barbata never did.

whitehallunity, Friday, 11 May 2018 17:27 (two months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Something I've wanted to do for a long time: perform "Till the Morning Comes" with one of my classes. We've even got a teacher who plays French horn.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5kpLiiHV2g&feature=youtu.be

clemenza, Saturday, 2 June 2018 19:36 (one month ago) Permalink

that's great!

niels, Sunday, 3 June 2018 09:47 (one month ago) Permalink

Thanks. A few weeks ago, when I tried uploading a clip of me lip-synching "She Belongs to Me" in class, it was immediately blocked for copyright. This time, no problem. I don't know if that's because I was using Dylan's actual version in the former, and their software recognized that, or if it's just that Neil's not as copyright-mad as Dylan. It is a lot easier to find his stuff on YouTube.

clemenza, Sunday, 3 June 2018 13:32 (one month ago) Permalink

wonderful

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 3 June 2018 18:13 (one month ago) Permalink

Love it! What a great experience for the kids. This has brought up memories I haven't touched in years- of being around 11 years old and our primary music school teacher Mrs Ghaznavi introduced us to Vangelis and his soundtrack for Blade Runner and encouraged us to make similar sounds. She also had one exercise where she got us to make our own musical instruments and can remember the excitement of fiddling around my tensioned elastic band monstrosity.

I haven't really considered it till now but it's pretty inspiring to think how important these things were in terms of my own creativity.

I'm Finn thanks, don't mention it (fionnland), Sunday, 3 June 2018 20:18 (one month ago) Permalink

Awright clemenza! Yeah, it's too bad there haven't been (or I haven't seen) more albums like The Langley Schools Music Project (which just got a vinyl reissue in March), but who knows what's out there, much less publicized (although the Bar None dude who put out this comp on CD said that the original LPs were by far the best of their kind that he'd heard; wasn't too uncommon to have school albums like this, even my school did it). Must check YouTube.

dow, Sunday, 3 June 2018 20:56 (one month ago) Permalink

there's a wonderful "on the way home" on this LP, unfortunately the mix I heard it on seems to have been taken off of soundcloud ...

https://img.discogs.com/TgWXq--wS9AkBBN47eAXWiZD7Dc=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-10560725-1499909883-1694.jpeg.jpg

tylerw, Sunday, 3 June 2018 23:09 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Listened to "Sleeps With Angels" for the first time in a while last night. What an amazing record. It's a credit to the weird alchemy of Young and the Horse that even "Piece of Crap," the most aggressively outlier track on this relatively subdued and meditative album, is great.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 June 2018 13:28 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I love that instead of doing that record as a more stand Neil record w/ a host of more sensitive & deft players, which is on the surface seems like the songs called for, he roped in his gang of cavemen to play way outside themselves and it works amazingly well.

Worst album cover.

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 29 June 2018 13:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Tell it to Springsteen.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 June 2018 13:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink

"gang of cavemen" is so otm.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 June 2018 13:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I would listen to Sleeps With Angels more if "Change Your Mind" were a b-side I think, it doesn't justify its length. so I skip it & "Western Hero" before it ("Western Hero" is the same song as like at least two other songs on the album) & go right into the fab "Blue Eden"

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 29 June 2018 14:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

oh man I love Change Your Mind, it does go on though

sleeve, Friday, 29 June 2018 14:12 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I love the vibe of Change Your Mind. One of my favorites.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 June 2018 14:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I never listen to Broken Arrow, but my recollection is that it fails at the same thing this album succeeds with.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 June 2018 14:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Hard disagree — change your mind is great

tylerw, Friday, 29 June 2018 14:14 (two weeks ago) Permalink

dang, well at least we can agree that "Blue Eden" is fantastic, total grinder

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 29 June 2018 14:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

"Sleep" def suffers a bit from mid-90s cd bloat, but when I am in the mood for it I wish it were twice as long.

"Broken Arrow" has some great tunes, "Big Time", but yeah overall isn't as great a record

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 29 June 2018 14:16 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Seeing him solo this Sunday...

... (Eazy), Friday, 29 June 2018 14:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink

setlist from st. louis last night looked nice — "Homefires"!

tylerw, Friday, 29 June 2018 14:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink

last time I saw him was a solo tour, the tour where he had all these instruments arrayed on stage and spent a lot of time walking back and forth between them, looking as if he was trying to decide what he was going to play, even though the setlist remained more or less static from night to night. I think it was because he was filming it?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 June 2018 14:45 (two weeks ago) Permalink

haha yeah, i think that's at least partly schtick at this point

tylerw, Friday, 29 June 2018 14:50 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I saw him at Arroyo Seco last week and it just reinforced the fact that I am not into Promise of the Real. They opened with a 30-minute version of “Like the Inca” - cool jam I guess but yeesh, those lyrics. Did a great Cortez the Killer but then Neil turned it over to his band to do two of their own songs which kinda ruined everything for me.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 29 June 2018 15:18 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Listening to Le Noise this morning, that one holds up really well, too!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 June 2018 15:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yeah, that is probably my fave from this decade ... he seems to have rediscovered it in the past couple weeks! lotsa le noise in the setlists.

tylerw, Friday, 29 June 2018 15:41 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Well, it is a truly totally solo album - his only? - and he's on a solo tour, so ...

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 June 2018 15:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Storytone is totally solo, isn't it? Man, I literally have not heard a note of his last five records.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 June 2018 15:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

he was doing full band versions of le noise tunes w/ promise of the real, though — haven't heard 'em yet, but i'd be interested.

tylerw, Friday, 29 June 2018 15:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I remember being kind of bummed out by "Le Noise" when I first heard it but I revisited it a few yrs ago and loved it and I can't recall now what bothered me so much about it.

I stump for "Peace Trail" of his more recent records

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 29 June 2018 15:59 (two weeks ago) Permalink

le noise is also my favorite of his recent records, really going all the way back to harvest moon

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 June 2018 16:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

psychedelic pill is pretty close, though

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 June 2018 16:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

cosign both those posts

the bottom-end sound of that custom Lanois guitar thing is really something if you crank that record up

sleeve, Friday, 29 June 2018 16:14 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I remember reading about but not quite understanding Lanois's approach. Something quietly radical with a tricked out Gretsch Falcon?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 June 2018 16:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

"The other thing that was very important for the sound of the album,” added Lanois, "was the white Gretsch Falcon that Neil was playing, which had two pickups, one for the bass and the other for the treble strings, each of them going through one of the two Fender Deluxe amplifiers that we had put in the sweet spot in the room. The Falcon was our secret weapon. It was used on all the tracks, apart from 'Hitchhiker', on which Neil played his black Les Paul, and the two acoustic songs, 'Love And War' and 'Peaceful Valley Boulevard,' on which he played my Guild acoustic, which has an LR Baggs magnetic pickup, so we could mic the guitar and also have an isolated source of sound from the pickup.”

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 June 2018 16:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I guess there was also lots of mixing on the fly, tossing in effects here and there a la dub. I'd never watched this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU5B53b9ntQ

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 June 2018 16:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I never listen to Broken Arrow, but my recollection is that it fails at the same thing this album succeeds with.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, June 29, 2018 7:13 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think Broken Arrow is a bit more rambling and loose but yeah it's similarly understated. however i think the Broken Arrow songs themselves really called for a lot more energy, they're performed like the band just woke up from a nap. Sleeps With Angels has songs that really benefit from being delivered in the way they are, it's really got a fantastic late night noirish atmosphere throughout.

omar little, Friday, 29 June 2018 16:50 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Safeway Cart is a great Neil deep cut, too

niels, Saturday, 30 June 2018 10:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

so dark

niels, Saturday, 30 June 2018 10:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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