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Poll Results

OptionVotes
On the Beach 12
Tonight's the Night 12
Rust Never Sleeps 12
After the Gold Rush 9
Sleeps With Angels 8
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere 7
Arc/Weld 3
Old Ways 3
Dead Man 2
Ragged Glory 2
Trans 2
Live Rust 2
Time Fades Away 1
Re-ac-tor 1
Zuma 1
Everybody's Rockin' 1
Mirror Ball 1
Harvest 1
Comes a Time 1
Broken Arrow 1
Hawks & Doves 1
Silver & Gold 0
Are You Passionate? 0
Greendale 0
Prairie Wind 0
Harvest Moon 0
Freedom 0
This Note's for You 0
Life 0
Landing on Water 0
Neil Young 0
American Stars 'N Bars 0
Living with War0


strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:18 (twelve years ago) link

oh shit decade

strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:21 (twelve years ago) link

and #s of boots. sorry gang. read my lips, vote dead man

strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:22 (twelve years ago) link

After The Gold Rush.

but On The Beach too. the title song makes me cry.

bakerstreetsaxsolo, Sunday, 17 June 2007 12:14 (twelve years ago) link

I voted Time Fades Away

Billy Pilgrim, Sunday, 17 June 2007 12:43 (twelve years ago) link

this was already done.
Best of Neil Young studio records

Zeno, Sunday, 17 June 2007 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

This one has live albums.

Some of them, anyway. (Unplugged, Year of the Horse, Road Rock vol. 1)

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

Oh. The studio albums poll had the live albums too. Nevermind then.

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

I voted Ragged Glory because it needs more love and less rockism. That's a srsly good record, yo.

kenan, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

First person to vote "Old Ways" gets a dollar from me.

kenan, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for "Old Ways" just for the cash. You want my paypal address?

Rock Hardy, Sunday, 17 June 2007 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

After The Gold Rush = the good songs are so good they make you forget about the bad ones

On The Beach = pretty much all good

Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

I mean "When You Dance" is kind of endearing as a cornily sincere, b-level hippie artifact, but Cripple Creek Ferry is a real turd of a song, and Birds isn't great either.

Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

I got to get away from this day to day running around

calstars, Sunday, 17 June 2007 23:18 (twelve years ago) link

TRANS FTW!

circa1916, Sunday, 17 June 2007 23:49 (twelve years ago) link

Arc/Weld. The worst/best live albums ever.

SeekAltRoute, Monday, 18 June 2007 03:57 (twelve years ago) link

Dead Man is actually really really good.

MRZBW, Monday, 18 June 2007 08:28 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

Tonight's The Night

closely followed by Goldrush and On The Beach

TTN is definitely my favourite - it's so fucked, so moving. Tender, ragged and rocking in equal measure.

Baby Mellow My Mind aches so hard - the swell of pedal steel, touch of lonesome barroom piano, and Neil's voice actually breaking up.

Come On Baby Let's Go Downtown rocks. It sounds so triumphant in its hedonism yet the undercurrent is utterly bleak.

Other favourites - Everybody Knows, Rust, Zuma, Time Fades Away, Sleeps With Angels, Live Rust. Hell, there hardly any poor ones. I've not heard the infamous Landing On Water, but Are You Passionate was bloody awful. Trans is ace though.

Ragged Glory is great fun, one of his most satisfying rock records, but I wouldn't quite put it in the top rung of Neil albums.

Harvest - handful of great songs and some dreary stuff too. Overall, it's too slick, too polite. I like Neil a little scuffed around the edges.

Stew, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:49 (twelve years ago) link

Rust Never Sleeps has Powderfinger, for the win.

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:52 (twelve years ago) link

Anyone else notice how Apatow kept dropping the cover of Landing On Water all over Knocked Up. What's the deal with that? Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

talrose, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 06:02 (twelve years ago) link

Rust Never Sleeps for "Powderfinger", but also because of the individually peculiar time and place in which I first loved this record. Also, it's an incredibly balanced album in so many ways I can't be bothered to expand on here.

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 06:41 (twelve years ago) link

Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

I noticed the curious product placement too, Tal. There's an interesting thread here devoted to Landing on Water.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:12 (twelve years ago) link

no "none of the above"????

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

just snuck in a vote for tonight's the night. right in the nick of time.

emotion of the less contained and calculated variety

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

me for tonights the night, too. its so close though - there are better songs on zuma and everybody knows, and almost enough to give the nod to one of them, but TTN takes it

69, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, Tonight's The Night would be my second or third and very close.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

Rust Never Sleeps by a hair, for side one and Powderfinger alone (though nearly sunk by Welfare Mothers).

Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

Oh c'mon, Welfare Mothers is great! My favorite Neil Young throwaway.

Jiminy Krokus, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

DIVORCEE

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

a 3-way tie this time then.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:08 (twelve years ago) link

Fair result.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:46 (twelve years ago) link

Wait. Zuma should've been much higher, though.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:47 (twelve years ago) link

c'est vrai

blunt, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:53 (twelve years ago) link

Someone voted for Everybody's Rockin' again.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

One vote for "Zuma"! No way!! This poll is corrupt!!!

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

"On the Beach" - there's an ILM album if ever there was one

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

Sleeps With Angels is way too high. And Freedom is way too low.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

The fact that Zuma ranked below Trans completely invalidates this poll.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

So, basically, I'm the only person who voted for "Zuma"? Don't believe it.

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

I wasn't around when CSN(and sometimes Y) were at their peak, so apologies for the following somewhat naive question:

How much of Neil Young's popularity in the 70s can be attributed to his association with CSN? The thought never really occurred to me until I was checking out CSN(Y)'s Allmusic entry today, which says "it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles".

Personally, I like Neil Young exponentially more than CSN(Y), so my gut feeling is that the majority of Neil Young's fans were there on account of his own talent. But was there a certain contingency of fans who cheered loudest for "Ohio" and "Helpless", contemplating to themselves at the Live Rust concerts that it would be better if CSN were up on stage too? Or was it more like "Why the hell does Neil Young ever play with them? They butchered 'Helpless'..."? Just wondering what the prevalent view was back in the day.

Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

When CSN and sometimes Y reunited for a predictably horrible album in 1988, Neil begged off the obligatory tour, saying, "I dunno man, those guys need some serious practice."

And that Allmusic statement strikes me as comically absurd.

Sara Sara Sara, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I admit it raised my eyebrow as well, but then I go the ILM search function, and the second thing I read on the Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young C/D S/D thread is "i'm more interested in the fact that CSN(Y) (or whatever) were actually REALLY POPULAR and BIG -- as in springsteen in '85/outkast or britney spears BIG. that's such a radical sea-change in mass public musical taste that deserves some comment, no?"

Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

On The Beach is very good, but would have voted Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, in fact i shall play it now

Alex in Denver, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

hi alex, how is the weather in denver? in frankfurt it has been raining most of the day. i would have voted <i>after the goldrush</i>, i think. but <i>on the beach</i> is a decent winner, too.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

i will never learn the ilm html tags...

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

weird

moscow_nights, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:45 (eleven years ago) link

it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles

In their time their American album sales were HUGE. Their cultural cachet was such that their public greeted "Ohio" as a major statement. I'm wary of statements like AllMusic's, but the Shakey bio also makes the same suggestion.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:48 (eleven years ago) link

CSNY were huge because the Byrds, the Hollies, and the Buffalo Springfield had all been huge before.

Nubbelverbrennung, Monday, 26 November 2007 11:26 (eleven years ago) link

Didn't Neil work with Lionel on some high-tech model train controller designs? I can understand why he'd be cranky on message boards...insofar as I can understand the motivation behind anything else Neil has done.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:34 (three weeks ago) link

i think he was pretty much the president of lionel for a little while there. or at least a part-owner.

tylerw, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:35 (three weeks ago) link

I thought he remains a part owner of Lionel? Because one of his sons was really into trains?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:41 (three weeks ago) link

yeah he owned a significant interest of Lionel for awhile

it's actually touching he got into it because his son who is very disabled liked to play with them

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:41 (three weeks ago) link

I guess he used to be a minority owner (20%) but now is just a consultant.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:42 (three weeks ago) link

I've tried "Colorado" a few times now, always with an open mind, I mean I love "Doghouse" and Greendale fer cryin' out loud I am gonna give Neil a zillion chances and each time I've been stymied by the line "I'm a few bricks short of a load" and had to tap out.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:19 (three weeks ago) link

You know that gesture the frustrated card dealer makes in Casino when Pesci's character is making a huge scene? That's me when I get to that line

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:21 (three weeks ago) link

lol

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:59 (three weeks ago) link

first listen to Peace Trail today on account of the praise here yesterday, and wow @ the autotune (particularly on "My Pledge"). not a bad album!

L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:16 (three weeks ago) link

Neil Young hasn't released too many outright bad records, but the mediocrity of many of his records does stick out against his masterpieces, of which he of course has many.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:25 (three weeks ago) link

Lol at the dozens of "it's not great but it's sort of ok" reviews of recent NY output just up-thread.

For a revered artist he's put out a considerable amount of crap. Which I suppose is just repeating what Josh just said

Duke, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:30 (three weeks ago) link

I'm not yet sure what I think of Colorado. Probably that it's alright, but not great, funnily enough

Duke, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:32 (three weeks ago) link

haha, i'm definitely guilty of the "it's not great but it's sort of ok" review ... https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2019/10/29/neil-young-and-crazy-horse-colorado/
it is interesting to wonder if neil had been on a Dylan schedule for the past 20 years — only four albums of original material?

tylerw, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:34 (three weeks ago) link

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/neil-young-crazy-horse-colorado

Duke, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:39 (three weeks ago) link

Quite like the description : "He solos like something’s buried under the fretboard that he’s trying to dig out."

Duke, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:40 (three weeks ago) link

Nice review Tyler. You're definitely right about She Showed Me Love..

Duke, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:42 (three weeks ago) link

damn She Showed Me Love is "only" 13+ minutes long but i'm not sure it isn't an hour.

omar little, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:45 (three weeks ago) link

yeah, that one is kinda the biggest disappointment because a 13-minute crazy horse song should, by definition, be great. but it really isn't!

tylerw, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:47 (three weeks ago) link

it's just a real formless blob of a dirge, and usually NY+CH create these really deceptively simple epics in a similar style which have a real journey and the call and response type vocals and harmonies play off each other well and in a non-repetitive way, even though the epics usually have repetitive-seeming elements.

omar little, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:56 (three weeks ago) link

would forgive the godawful lyrics if the jam at the end got into some interesting zones ...

tylerw, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 21:19 (three weeks ago) link

Some jams are potentially epic and ultimately flabby, that’s an unfortunate fact imo

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 31 October 2019 00:24 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah, but you're supposed to leave those off of your albums. (Especially if you're Neil Young.)

nickn, Thursday, 31 October 2019 00:48 (three weeks ago) link

trying to work my way up to Colorado, haven't listened much to Neil's work since like Are You Passionate? (which is a good album dangit) but I've been giving them all a spin these last few days since I can just stream them instead of having to buy, and man the lyrics are tough going. Living With War sounds cool (currently on the with-chorus version even) but the song subjects are just dumb. it wasn't always thus!

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 31 October 2019 13:02 (three weeks ago) link

I actually appreciate Living With War because of its political content and it's the sound that doesn't quite grab me. I find the stripped-down versions on 'Living With War - In The Beginning' much better than those on the normal record, Neil's vocals show more emotion & power on those raw recordings.

Valentijn, Thursday, 31 October 2019 13:40 (three weeks ago) link

yeah I'll listen to that version shortly, now moved on to Greendale
trying to steel up for the Monsanto experience

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 31 October 2019 13:48 (three weeks ago) link

I thought I remembered a thread where people tried to make a greatest hits of his post 2000s oeuvre, or was it just a dream?

here are some choices through 2006:

Razor Love
Differently
Goin' Home
Bandit
It's A Dream
Families

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 31 October 2019 14:52 (three weeks ago) link

i made a mix of 2000-2009 back in the day that i thought was pretty solid, might need to update ...

tylerw, Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:18 (three weeks ago) link

link?

first listen to The Visitor now, and this isn't starting well...

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:35 (three weeks ago) link

i'm afraid the link is long gone! not even sure what hard drive the files are on at this point ... i could probably re-create using spotify (though I think I included an unreleased live version of "Day In The Life" haha)

tylerw, Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:42 (three weeks ago) link

I'd happy just to have the song titles you choose, can get all the tunes myself probably

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:44 (three weeks ago) link

The Visitor is the first one of these latter day Neil albums that's a chore to listen to. I mean I didn't like e.g. "Carmichael" on Greendale but this is just dopier all around. I guess the backing singing on "Stand Tall" sounds a little like Danny Whitten maybe?

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:45 (three weeks ago) link

"Big Box" on The Monsanto Years is pretty good

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:50 (three weeks ago) link

THANK YOU

Book Doula (sleeve), Thursday, 31 October 2019 19:58 (three weeks ago) link

You're welcome! (I think?)

L'assie (Euler), Friday, 1 November 2019 16:58 (two weeks ago) link

Not sure how I feel about Coloradoyet. Overall, it feels like an exercise in trying to break in the Poncho-less Crazy Horse. And it's not like I don't expect (and love) a degree of looseness from Neil, but these aren't just first takes; these are negative-one takes. The first-ever performance of "Rockin' in the Free World" on the '89 Seattle show -- where no one in the band had even heard the song before -- is vastly more cohesive than anything here.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 18:16 (two weeks ago) link

Ain’t singing for Pepsi
Ain’t singin for coke
Ain’t singing for Bezos

Oh wait

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Saturday, 9 November 2019 13:54 (one week ago) link

Guess his ranch needs a new wing

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Saturday, 9 November 2019 13:55 (one week ago) link

wait, what now?

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 9 November 2019 18:33 (one week ago) link

he's just shilling for amazon's move into hi-res streaming

tylerw, Saturday, 9 November 2019 18:39 (one week ago) link

Pono 2.0?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 November 2019 18:47 (one week ago) link

I bet big Bezos had to call Neil personally for this to happen. Imagine the fawning

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Saturday, 9 November 2019 18:57 (one week ago) link

New Format: Bozo

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 9 November 2019 19:02 (one week ago) link

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars) at 7:55 9 Nov 19

Guess his ranch needs a new wing

it burned down in the wildfires

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 9 November 2019 19:03 (one week ago) link

i think his place in malibu burned down — iirc he lost the ranch in the divorce.

who knows if it'll happen, but neil is saying crazy horse is going to tour in 2020.

tylerw, Saturday, 9 November 2019 22:08 (one week ago) link

So how is Poncho doing? Is he retired?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 November 2019 22:17 (one week ago) link

Seems to be fine, just didn’t want to crank the whole thing up again. Lucky that Lofgren is around and willing — I dont think there could be any other replacement.

tylerw, Saturday, 9 November 2019 22:24 (one week ago) link

Well, no one with Crazy Horse history, at least.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 November 2019 22:25 (one week ago) link

Poncho: “I'm 70 and I'm retired now and want to stay home,” Sampedro recently told Uncut.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 9 November 2019 22:55 (one week ago) link

I still think that The Visitor is better than Peace Trail.
Am now almost through my first Colorado listen and I'm really digging it.
So it seems that I'm not in line at all on recent NY with, as it seems, everybody else posting here...

Valentijn, Monday, 11 November 2019 18:55 (one week ago) link


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