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Poll Results

OptionVotes
On the Beach 12
Tonight's the Night 12
Rust Never Sleeps 12
After the Gold Rush 9
Sleeps With Angels 8
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere 7
Arc/Weld 3
Old Ways 3
Dead Man 2
Ragged Glory 2
Trans 2
Live Rust 2
Time Fades Away 1
Re-ac-tor 1
Zuma 1
Everybody's Rockin' 1
Mirror Ball 1
Harvest 1
Comes a Time 1
Broken Arrow 1
Hawks & Doves 1
Silver & Gold 0
Are You Passionate? 0
Greendale 0
Prairie Wind 0
Harvest Moon 0
Freedom 0
This Note's for You 0
Life 0
Landing on Water 0
Neil Young 0
American Stars 'N Bars 0
Living with War0


strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:18 (twelve years ago) link

oh shit decade

strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:21 (twelve years ago) link

and #s of boots. sorry gang. read my lips, vote dead man

strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:22 (twelve years ago) link

After The Gold Rush.

but On The Beach too. the title song makes me cry.

bakerstreetsaxsolo, Sunday, 17 June 2007 12:14 (twelve years ago) link

I voted Time Fades Away

Billy Pilgrim, Sunday, 17 June 2007 12:43 (twelve years ago) link

this was already done.
Best of Neil Young studio records

Zeno, Sunday, 17 June 2007 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

This one has live albums.

Some of them, anyway. (Unplugged, Year of the Horse, Road Rock vol. 1)

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

Oh. The studio albums poll had the live albums too. Nevermind then.

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

I voted Ragged Glory because it needs more love and less rockism. That's a srsly good record, yo.

kenan, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

First person to vote "Old Ways" gets a dollar from me.

kenan, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for "Old Ways" just for the cash. You want my paypal address?

Rock Hardy, Sunday, 17 June 2007 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

After The Gold Rush = the good songs are so good they make you forget about the bad ones

On The Beach = pretty much all good

Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

I mean "When You Dance" is kind of endearing as a cornily sincere, b-level hippie artifact, but Cripple Creek Ferry is a real turd of a song, and Birds isn't great either.

Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

I got to get away from this day to day running around

calstars, Sunday, 17 June 2007 23:18 (twelve years ago) link

TRANS FTW!

circa1916, Sunday, 17 June 2007 23:49 (twelve years ago) link

Arc/Weld. The worst/best live albums ever.

SeekAltRoute, Monday, 18 June 2007 03:57 (twelve years ago) link

Dead Man is actually really really good.

MRZBW, Monday, 18 June 2007 08:28 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

Tonight's The Night

closely followed by Goldrush and On The Beach

TTN is definitely my favourite - it's so fucked, so moving. Tender, ragged and rocking in equal measure.

Baby Mellow My Mind aches so hard - the swell of pedal steel, touch of lonesome barroom piano, and Neil's voice actually breaking up.

Come On Baby Let's Go Downtown rocks. It sounds so triumphant in its hedonism yet the undercurrent is utterly bleak.

Other favourites - Everybody Knows, Rust, Zuma, Time Fades Away, Sleeps With Angels, Live Rust. Hell, there hardly any poor ones. I've not heard the infamous Landing On Water, but Are You Passionate was bloody awful. Trans is ace though.

Ragged Glory is great fun, one of his most satisfying rock records, but I wouldn't quite put it in the top rung of Neil albums.

Harvest - handful of great songs and some dreary stuff too. Overall, it's too slick, too polite. I like Neil a little scuffed around the edges.

Stew, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:49 (twelve years ago) link

Rust Never Sleeps has Powderfinger, for the win.

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:52 (twelve years ago) link

Anyone else notice how Apatow kept dropping the cover of Landing On Water all over Knocked Up. What's the deal with that? Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

talrose, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 06:02 (twelve years ago) link

Rust Never Sleeps for "Powderfinger", but also because of the individually peculiar time and place in which I first loved this record. Also, it's an incredibly balanced album in so many ways I can't be bothered to expand on here.

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 06:41 (twelve years ago) link

Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

I noticed the curious product placement too, Tal. There's an interesting thread here devoted to Landing on Water.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:12 (twelve years ago) link

no "none of the above"????

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

just snuck in a vote for tonight's the night. right in the nick of time.

emotion of the less contained and calculated variety

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

me for tonights the night, too. its so close though - there are better songs on zuma and everybody knows, and almost enough to give the nod to one of them, but TTN takes it

69, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, Tonight's The Night would be my second or third and very close.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

Rust Never Sleeps by a hair, for side one and Powderfinger alone (though nearly sunk by Welfare Mothers).

Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

Oh c'mon, Welfare Mothers is great! My favorite Neil Young throwaway.

Jiminy Krokus, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

DIVORCEE

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

a 3-way tie this time then.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:08 (twelve years ago) link

Fair result.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:46 (twelve years ago) link

Wait. Zuma should've been much higher, though.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:47 (twelve years ago) link

c'est vrai

blunt, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:53 (twelve years ago) link

Someone voted for Everybody's Rockin' again.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

One vote for "Zuma"! No way!! This poll is corrupt!!!

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

"On the Beach" - there's an ILM album if ever there was one

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

Sleeps With Angels is way too high. And Freedom is way too low.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

The fact that Zuma ranked below Trans completely invalidates this poll.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

So, basically, I'm the only person who voted for "Zuma"? Don't believe it.

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

I wasn't around when CSN(and sometimes Y) were at their peak, so apologies for the following somewhat naive question:

How much of Neil Young's popularity in the 70s can be attributed to his association with CSN? The thought never really occurred to me until I was checking out CSN(Y)'s Allmusic entry today, which says "it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles".

Personally, I like Neil Young exponentially more than CSN(Y), so my gut feeling is that the majority of Neil Young's fans were there on account of his own talent. But was there a certain contingency of fans who cheered loudest for "Ohio" and "Helpless", contemplating to themselves at the Live Rust concerts that it would be better if CSN were up on stage too? Or was it more like "Why the hell does Neil Young ever play with them? They butchered 'Helpless'..."? Just wondering what the prevalent view was back in the day.

Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

When CSN and sometimes Y reunited for a predictably horrible album in 1988, Neil begged off the obligatory tour, saying, "I dunno man, those guys need some serious practice."

And that Allmusic statement strikes me as comically absurd.

Sara Sara Sara, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I admit it raised my eyebrow as well, but then I go the ILM search function, and the second thing I read on the Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young C/D S/D thread is "i'm more interested in the fact that CSN(Y) (or whatever) were actually REALLY POPULAR and BIG -- as in springsteen in '85/outkast or britney spears BIG. that's such a radical sea-change in mass public musical taste that deserves some comment, no?"

Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

On The Beach is very good, but would have voted Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, in fact i shall play it now

Alex in Denver, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

hi alex, how is the weather in denver? in frankfurt it has been raining most of the day. i would have voted <i>after the goldrush</i>, i think. but <i>on the beach</i> is a decent winner, too.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

i will never learn the ilm html tags...

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

weird

moscow_nights, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:45 (eleven years ago) link

it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles

In their time their American album sales were HUGE. Their cultural cachet was such that their public greeted "Ohio" as a major statement. I'm wary of statements like AllMusic's, but the Shakey bio also makes the same suggestion.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:48 (eleven years ago) link

CSNY were huge because the Byrds, the Hollies, and the Buffalo Springfield had all been huge before.

Nubbelverbrennung, Monday, 26 November 2007 11:26 (eleven years ago) link

Neil still playing with Promise of the Real still sucks too

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 May 2019 19:13 (two months ago) link

It's clearly impossible to release more than one album at a time

Duke, Thursday, 2 May 2019 19:45 (two months ago) link

Thanks...We did have to alter that line, yeah (didn't even bother running it by the principal, who probably would have asked us to pick a different song altogether).

I guess it's not a copyright issue. I posted a video once where I was lip-synching in class to Dylan's "She Belongs to Me," but I was using the actual recording there, which is different. It was blocked immediately (and a week later Bob Dylan came to my house and threatened me).

clemenza, Thursday, 2 May 2019 19:54 (two months ago) link

UMS: great story, missed that. It's such a beautiful, childlike melody.

clemenza, Thursday, 2 May 2019 19:55 (two months ago) link

UMS that's incredibly sweet, and also extremely funny.

One Eye Open, Thursday, 2 May 2019 20:00 (two months ago) link

Loving the kid miming archery on the right!

Tiltin' My Lens Photography (stevie), Thursday, 2 May 2019 22:26 (two months ago) link

And flossing, and air-guitaring. He's something else.

clemenza, Friday, 3 May 2019 03:52 (two months ago) link

Great video!

Also, this is the first time I ever noticed, after decades of listening to this song, that the lyric *doesn't* read "the loading OF THE GUN" (I had to check Genius to be sure).

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Friday, 3 May 2019 04:12 (two months ago) link

clemenza you should send that to Neil

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 3 May 2019 04:16 (two months ago) link

Be careful, he might fire Nils and replace him with Air-Guitar Kid.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 May 2019 04:28 (two months ago) link

Neil Young & Crazy Horse & Kid Who Flosses

We did "Till the Morning Comes" last year and I looked into that, but I didn't get anywhere finding a address that looked usable. If anyone knows of something--management, agent, etc.--I'd try it. I don't think it would be worth the trouble sending it to the record label.

clemenza, Friday, 3 May 2019 12:30 (two months ago) link

"I'd do it"

clemenza, Friday, 3 May 2019 12:30 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Nice----will look for a post of this show (after mandated holiday slog):
https://datebook.sfchronicle.com/festivals/bottlerock-cuts-short-neil-youngs-headlining-set

dow, Sunday, 26 May 2019 15:39 (one month ago) link

They've been killing it on this tour imo

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Sunday, 26 May 2019 15:53 (one month ago) link

Tusaloosa is out today

not an earth shattering revelation but it's got a good vibe...really picks up steam halfway through, "Time Fades Away" and "Lookout Joe" particularly (both great solos)

also the jagged, rocked up version of "New Mama" is a really cool and very different take on the song

yeah that "time fades away" guitar break is pretty thrilling.
kind of ridiculous that on the day Dylan releases 14 discs worth of live stuff from a single tour, neil is picking and choosing little bits to put out ...

tylerw, Friday, 7 June 2019 18:12 (one month ago) link

it's even more ridiculous that a major classic rock artist is sitting on multiple finished studio albums from his peak period! it's so insane

but yeah overall this is a good show, fun to hear but I think there are at least 6 things in the pipeline I'm more excited about

The Tuscaloosa set is worth a listen but not two. The performances are all excellent but not revelatory. I’ll stick with the studio versions.

L'assie (Euler), Friday, 7 June 2019 22:11 (one month ago) link

All of you who frequent this thread have to see Echo in the Canyon, a documentary on L.A. bands of the mid-'60s (but melded with newer performers being interviewed and covering famous songs). The end-credit sequence is one of the best and funniest things I've seen this year.

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 11:36 (one month ago) link

In a concert at the Albert Hall in London on October 29, 1970,[2] Joni Mitchell, who was already friends with Young by the time he wrote this song, opened her song "Circle Game" with this speech:

Mitchell: "In 1965 I was up in Canada, and there was a friend of mine up there who had just left a rock'n'roll band (...) he had just newly turned 21, and that meant he was no longer allowed into his favourite haunt, which was kind of a teeny-bopper club and once you're over 21 you couldn't get back in there anymore; so he was really feeling terrible because his girlfriends and everybody that he wanted to hang out with, his band could still go there, you know, but it's one of the things that drove him to become a folk singer was that he couldn't play in this club anymore. 'Cause he was over the hill. (...) So he wrote this song that was called "Oh to live on sugar mountain" which was a lament for his lost youth. (...) And I thought, God, you know, if we get to 21 and there's nothing after that, that's a pretty bleak future, so I wrote a song for him, and for myself just to give me some hope. It's called The Circle Game."[3]

On the bootleg album Live on Sugar Mountain, released just days after the concert at which it was recorded (on February 1, 1971, at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion in Los Angeles), Young talks at length about the lyrics. He says that when he first wrote the song, he

"wrote 126 verses to it. Now, you can imagine that I had a lot of trouble figuring out what four verses to use... I was underneath the stairs... Anyway, this verse that I wrote... It was the worst verse of the 126 that I wrote. So, I decided to put it in the song, to just to give everybody a frame of reference as to, you know, what can happen. What I'm trying to say here, by stopping in the middle of the song, and explaining this to you, is that... I think it's one of the lamest verses I ever wrote. And it takes a lotta nerve for me to get up here and sing it in front of you people. But, if when I'm finished singing, you sing the chorus 'Sugar Mountain' super loud, I'll just forget about it right away and we can continue."

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 17 June 2019 16:01 (one month ago) link

Next Archives Release: The Other 122 Verses Of "Sugar Mountain"

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 17 June 2019 16:04 (one month ago) link

Neil definitely the artist who makes you feel you own a dozen copies of the same live album

Duke, Monday, 17 June 2019 16:08 (one month ago) link

I like Tuscaloosa quite a bit, but it seems odd that there's so much Harvest material on it -- wasn't this the tour where Neil supposedly refused to play the hits, and just played the new stuff loudly with the Stray Gators?

Also, there's a loud/popping bass drum thing happening in a couple of the songs that is distracting me far more than it should.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 17 June 2019 16:33 (one month ago) link

basically a myth that he wasn't playing "hits" on that tour — setlists are fairly fan friendly overall, with the spikier Time Fades Away material sprinkled throughout.
the tonight's the night tour later that year in england was much more confrontational, with neil playing the entire album straight through during the opening sets.

tylerw, Monday, 17 June 2019 16:54 (one month ago) link

this is a pretty representative setlist, about half new stuff, half familiar faves. maybe not totally what people expected, but not a totally radical approach.

1973-01-15, Maple Leaf Gardens, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
w/ The Stray Gators
On The Way Home / Tell Me Why / L.A. / Journey Through The Past / Borrowed Tune / Out On The Weekend / Harvest / Old Man / Heart Of Gold / Come Along And Say You Will / Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere / Time Fades Away / New Mama / Alabama / Last Dance / Don't Be Denied / Cinnamon Girl / Lookout Joe / Southern Man / Are You Ready For The Country?

tylerw, Monday, 17 June 2019 16:58 (one month ago) link

i would be more than happy to buy a ticket for that

I wish Tuscaloosa was a whole show. That's my only issue with it - you can feel the truncation.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 June 2019 18:27 (one month ago) link

basically a myth that he wasn't playing "hits" on that tour — setlists are fairly fan friendly overall, with the spikier Time Fades Away material sprinkled throughout.

Yeah, I figured there must've been some mythmaking afoot. Are there pro recordings of the UK tour?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 17 June 2019 18:30 (one month ago) link

All of you who frequent this thread have to see Echo in the Canyon, a documentary on L.A. bands of the mid-'60s (but melded with newer performers being interviewed and covering famous songs). The end-credit sequence is one of the best and funniest things I've seen this year.

― clemenza, Wednesday, June 12, 2019 7:36 AM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Haha yeah I saw this over the weekend. Neil shreds!

J. Sam, Monday, 17 June 2019 18:34 (one month ago) link

XP I believe the only pro TTN tour tapes are the Roxy shows.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 17 June 2019 18:56 (one month ago) link

isn't there the bootleg from the UK? or is that after

Yeah, there are bootlegs from audience tapes.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 17 June 2019 19:51 (one month ago) link

that one is way more edgy than the roxy

just posted one of the better audience tapes from the english TTN tour: https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/185588492977/neil-young-crazy-horse-rainbow-theatre

tylerw, Monday, 17 June 2019 19:56 (one month ago) link

oh man that's sad, Neil must be gutted

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 22 June 2019 13:48 (three weeks ago) link

Damn yeah that is huge. RIP.

tylerw, Saturday, 22 June 2019 14:34 (three weeks ago) link

Honest question: as unpredictable and erratic as Neil Young has been with Roberts at the helm, I wonder what we can expect from Neil in the coming years, especially as he gets older?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 22 June 2019 15:07 (three weeks ago) link

Oh no, the Archives release schedule will be all chaotic now

StanM, Saturday, 22 June 2019 15:27 (three weeks ago) link

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXpost thanks Joni, but somehow I've never found "The Circle Game" to be a cheer-up song---especially not when I hear all the sad Boomers singing along with her on that live version, from Miles of Aisles maybe (staple/filler on Collegetown radio still). Maybe it's cheering to some to be sad together, resigned to be passengers doing time.

dow, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 15:57 (three weeks ago) link

i think "there'll be new dreams, maybe better dreams and plenty" is the key line there

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 16:39 (three weeks ago) link

But the chorus seems to counter that

dow, Thursday, 27 June 2019 00:49 (two weeks ago) link

Neil's got a PONO memoir out soon.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 27 June 2019 00:58 (two weeks ago) link

He got PONO sideburns

If I were a POLL I’d be Zinging (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 27 June 2019 01:01 (two weeks ago) link

Gonna get a PONO haircut

Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 June 2019 02:06 (two weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRBUAkOOMYE

budo jeru, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:22 (yesterday) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrjsk9IQj0k

tylerw, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:29 (yesterday) link

On a huuuge Neil Young kick these days after years of not really caring - mea culpa - and kicking myself for missing him here in Amsterdam just a few nights ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCpquw6jdrE

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:15 (yesterday) link


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