Frankie Valli and The Four Seasons vs Pilooski - Beggin'

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Best single/worst video combination of the year.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rvjRNYqV4ds

I mean, would it kill them to get some Northern Soul dudes out of a Wigan retirement home and get them to throw some fucking MOVES down? Rather than Eric Prydz Goes To Rydell High.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link

It's asking a lot of thrusting Thatcherkids to expect them to know about Northern Soul, or indeed Wigan.

Clearly it's going to be a number one but, old fart that I am, I would have been happy if they'd just reissued the Timebox version.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 14 June 2007 07:56 (fifteen years ago) link

When I was in college and got really into oldies and discovered Beggin', I kept playing it for people saying "somebody should sample this, this is some funky shit!" The other track, which I've mixed into DJ sets, is C'mon Marianne. That song rules.

dan selzer, Thursday, 14 June 2007 13:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Thatcherkids? i've never heard that term. i assume it alludes to the bougie-ness of UK's commercial house scene? (this is a serious question.)

pshrbrn, Thursday, 14 June 2007 13:09 (fifteen years ago) link

"Thatcherkid" is just another way of saying "80s baby"

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 14 June 2007 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link

no it isn't

acrobat, Thursday, 14 June 2007 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes it is

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 14 June 2007 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link

no it isn't. it is a way of implying someone has tacit right wing / selfish traits that they don't even realize cos they have been so throughly indoctrinated by the spirit of the age in which they grew up.

acrobat, Thursday, 14 June 2007 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe you should put your foot through the 1980s and send Margaret Thatcher the bill

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

You seem to have rationalised your posting style persona as, by turns, the worst kind of unambitious, turgidly written Brummy whimsy, or a deeply patronising undergraduate. It's boring _and_ irritating, and the worst thing is you seem to think you're bringing us pleasure as some sort of ILX jester or wit, who occasionally gets serious and tells it like it is. Actually, the worst thing is the way you can never just be silent for a while, read what other people have to say, or walk away from the computer. Just calm down a bit.

acrobat, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Acrobat is, for all intents and purposes, incapable of conversation. That doesn't mean he hasn't asked good questions in the past. It simply means it very quickly becomes clear there's no point in answering them.

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Seriously, banning Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman for making one crappy joke (actually, most of his jokes have been crappy, which is why I wouldn't be inclined to call racism, just stupidity for the post referenced upthread) seems just a tad on the over-reacting side. Like noodle vague said, he's hardly the only one who's made an ill-advised and unfunny racial caricature joke.

And saying "oh he doesn't contribute much/his jokes aren't funny - fuck it, that's half of ILX.

acrobat, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

So, Frankie Valli then

Tom D., Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Frankie Valli would be funnier if he played by his own rules, just responding to every put-down with "Ha ha, I MANIPULATED you into saying that!" just gets boring REALLY fast.

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I just wish you wouldn't use that falsetto in every post

Tom D., Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Frankie Valli, you are not funny. In fact, you are showing yourself to be painfully unfunny, patently unfunny, a grotesque heap of overreaching humor-impaired desperation. It makes us wish you were dead, which is a sad state of affairs. Now either shut up and calm down or get used to the fact that your presence on a thread will be met with despair. (Doubtless others have said similar about me, but this is part of why I can tell YOU this.)

acrobat, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link

This isn't as good as when Chris Morris interviewed him.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Tom D was spot on really. You are a type sadly enough. A type that most of us are all to familiar with because Frankie Valli, we were you once upon a time. Yes, we made lots of noise, derailed arguments for "look at me moments", why even I (hard to believe as it is) was once a hyperactive pain in the face. The only difference is that there wasn't an internet, nowadays irritating loudmouthery can is only a submit button away. This isn't an age thing, it's a maturity thing.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Dom T was on the spot really. Enough of your sad typos. Frankly, we have familiars because once upon a time we were in that valley....

Tom D., Thursday, 14 June 2007 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I really like this song! I've been putting it on mix CDs ever since it turned up over on Headphonesex a few months ago.

jamescobo, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link

so, back to Frankie Valli. this song has been on constant repeat lately. the first time i heard the re-edit, i thought it had sampled drums from some Can song. and then i heard the original and was totally blown away. Pilooski doesn't do much more than turn up the drums, loop the bit w/the ESG violin/guitar/whatever it is and add a few effects here and there.

jaxon, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost that was

jaxon, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

and back to the video. yeah, it kinda sucks the coolness out of the song by adding some ironic hipster crap 50s scene. all i can think of is weezer or nirvana.

jaxon, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm kinda curious how this came about to have a real release .... I first heard it as an mp3 from d-i-r-t-y and loved it but I figured it was just some white-label .... I guess they were able to license it from Frankie Valli? seems expensive! especially since they used so much of the original, like jaxon said.

dmr, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Rusty Millio RIP

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link

so innocuous

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Pilooski is amazing - search his Pointer Sisters edit = WOW. (Valli obviously is beyond classic)

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

that is a good one

also the "Brain of Oscar Pazzini" or whatever the hell from dirty edits vol. 1

dmr, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

does pilloski run the alainfinkielkrautrock blogspot?

jaxon, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't think it's him, it's someone else from dirty

dmr, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I would have been happy if they'd just reissued the Timebox version.
Yup.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...

I'm late, but this is awessooome

Tape Store, Monday, 2 June 2008 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link

A bit unusual for me to come into a non hip-hop thread and direct you towards a hip-hop video, but are you guys aware of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ync5XfNNPo

Geir Hongro, Monday, 2 June 2008 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

there are black people in norway?

jaxon, Monday, 2 June 2008 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link

that's pretty much just a cover with about 4 bars of rapping

jaxon, Monday, 2 June 2008 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

That it's so hard to get Pilooski's stuff is a crime.

Popture, Monday, 2 June 2008 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i went to my local 45 soul shop looking for that Pointer Sister's track and the dude told me it's a $200 record :(

jaxon, Monday, 2 June 2008 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

that's pretty much just a cover with about 4 bars of rapping

I don't disagree. :)

Geir Hongro, Monday, 2 June 2008 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I love the Pilooski edits so much, but they require a high bitrate file and a good system if you're going to play it out - the music is very dense.

Spencer Chow, Monday, 2 June 2008 23:54 (fourteen years ago) link

being honest, the Stateless remix that he did didn't do anything for me.
but that could have been all down to the crappy source material of course.

mark e, Monday, 2 June 2008 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link

jaxon - you got to be fucking kidding me. it only came out a couple months ago!

BATTAGS, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link

he probably means the original! i hope so anyway, otherwise i'm selling my copy of the pilooski 12", it's great but it's not $200 great.

haitch, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, original. it's a "northern classic". i figured i could get around my "i don't buy new records" stance by finding the original

jaxon, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link

battags, do you guys have any of the pilooski edits at amoeba?

jaxon, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I can imagine the Pilooski record being $200. The Dirty kids never press many and they get snapped up by DJs really quickly.

Popture, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

So good.

c?ke (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 25 January 2009 05:45 (thirteen years ago) link

(yeah, crap video, but for the sake of pressing play to listen)

c?ke (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 25 January 2009 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm going to see Jersey Boys...

dan selzer, Sunday, 25 January 2009 06:49 (thirteen years ago) link

i figured you already had seen it tbh dan

c?ke (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 25 January 2009 06:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I just saw Jersey Boys.

It was AWESOME.

I may have been amongst the youngest people there, but I certainly wasn't the only one from Jersey!

dan selzer, Monday, 2 February 2009 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

WTFFFFFF!!!! IS THIS REAL?

(jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ i think that's more of a take off on the madcon version which would make sense as it was apparently huge on the other side of the atlantic

jaime, Friday, 22 May 2009 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

omg

Banvil! The Story of Banvil (Tape Store), Friday, 22 May 2009 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

_I would have been happy if they'd just reissued the Timebox version._
Yup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ_QW3m_YO8

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 August 2021 12:49 (eleven months ago) link

Ollie Halsall on vibes, Barry Wom on drums.

"Bobby Gillespie" (ft. Heroin) (Tom D.), Sunday, 29 August 2021 12:59 (eleven months ago) link

Ha, exactly! Love those too.

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 August 2021 14:02 (eleven months ago) link

And now we'd like to do a number dedicated to a very special lady in the audience tonight: Patto's Mummy.

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 August 2021 14:04 (eleven months ago) link

Almost wanted to do a thread on guitar players and drummers that are often paired, but ended up thinking it wasn't worth the bother.

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 August 2021 14:05 (eleven months ago) link

Best single/worst video combination of the year.

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:43 PM (fourteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvjRNYqV4ds

I mean, would it kill them to get some Northern Soul dudes out of a Wigan retirement home and get them to throw some fucking MOVES down? Rather than Eric Prydz Goes To Rydell High.

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:44 PM (fourteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

This video link is dead, the official one doesn't match the description at all and is pretty good if very late 2000s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZJlwPNBKrc

fc_TEFH28mo (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 29 August 2021 14:34 (eleven months ago) link

eleven months pass...

Empty shell
Of what used to be

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 23:49 (two weeks ago) link


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