Autechre - classic or dud

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Any of their music I have heard has been pleasant enough, but they are the Platonic ideal of all that shitetastically dull Warp chinstroker music, therefore SuXoR.

This is triggered by hearing they are curating next year's ATP. Jesus, I might not go now.

DV, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

new incredibly dull over intellectualised new answers.

DV, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Autechre music played on a very large soundsystem with adequate bass response and mid-high range capabilities is more than fucking incredible. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean a damn thing. Sorry to burst the subjectivity bubble.

Gage-o, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Autechre as hi fi test music.

DV, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i dont really know that much autechre,all i have by them is a copy of cichlisuite,which has been growing on me for quite some time now,and would encourage me to get some more of their stuff,and an mp3 of garbage,which is an absolutely incredible track...i dont know what album its from or anything,but i'd advise anyone here to download it,even if they're not big autechre fans...so what else by autechre is good?is the beatless garbage something of an anomaly in their output,or are there any other similar tracks?any other fans of the track here? cheers, robin

robin, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

ps-it occurs to me that the above is probably the most amount of words ever written about autechre without one of them being "architecture"

robin, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

And you had to screw it up! We were on a roll!

Keith McDougall, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

autumnal england eulogies

start with LP5, then either chiastic slide or confield. most tracks sound too much like hard work, or too grim, to being with, BUT gradually evolve into musicbox folksongs.

dont know about an autechre curatorship, if its all phoenicia, arovane and funkstoring then it may not be much fun, but i give them credit enough to expect a more varied bill...

gareth, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

[...]but they are the Platonic ideal of all that shitetastically dull Warp chinstroker music[...]

right, so it's their fault 90% of IDM artists who came after them couldn't come up with an original idea and thus just made pale imitations. and added vocals and rapping. woo.

your null fame, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

by their spawn shall ye know them.

the ATP curatorship thing generally - it all falls down if the curators have narrow musical tastes. The Mogwai year really suffered in that regard, presenting the punter with a seemingly endless sequence of dullards. But who knows, maybe Autechre have a great love of Northern Soul, Norwegian Black Metal, and Sarah Records bands, leading to the most eclectic bill yet.

Or maybe it'll just be Plaid, Plone, Plonk, Plop, Plurp, Plup, Plipplop etc.

DV, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I heard one track on Peel that was interesting and one MP3 that wasn't. They're the kind of band I'll get into one day I'm sure, meanwhile I'm neutral. I'm sure they sound incredible on a system with adequate bass response and high-mid etc but I'm also sure that they don't sound remotely as good on said system as "Lords Of The Null Lines".

Tom, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

there earlier stuff aint bad at all .. Basscadet, the amber album, but lately i think they might have taken themselves a little too seriously ..

jk, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I quite like Autechre. Simple melodies surrounded weird glitch-y sometimes industrial sounding noise does it for me anytime. They also had/have a very unemotive cold style that at one point sounded very unique. Tri Repetae++ and Chiastic Slide are probably the ones I listen to the most.

I think it was Ethan that was saying that he liked Funkstorung better, a statement I agree with ONLY if you are referring to their respective remixes. For some reason Autechre's style transposed onto other music sounds less interesting than Funkstorung's similar but slightly more palatable in a song setting stylings.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Worth noting the other thread here I suppose.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic-ish. Search: pen expers! (ask gareth!) pir! (sounds like a 3yr old in a tub splishing out a mournful dirge!) arch carrier! rae!
Destroy: tri repetae. Maybe. I never listen to it.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Weird. Oh well. Try the non-linked version http://www.ilxor.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0054df

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

No amount of dull shit (and they seem determined to release truckloads) can undo all the classic noise from the Amber and Tri Repetae period.

Curt, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

on balance, AE = classic. not all god, but stuff like the tortoise remix is well smart.... also arch carrier

and the best: the remix they did on the dj food remix album

ambrose, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

their curating can't be worse than Albini's line-up, i reckon, and could well be excellent

michael, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm kinda getting into 'confield'.i hated it at first but listening to it on headphones while pretty stoned i started to get into it. not something i'd listen to often but track 5 on the album has this sound of decaying machinery with this weird bell chime in the background that sounds great. So I dunno about classic but theres def. something interesting going on..

michael bourke, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

oh so classic.

incunabula if you want early proto-IDM ala artificial intelligence series, which they appeared on anyway.

amber if you want ambient-ish type stuff with some nice beats thrown in on occasion

tri repetae if you want a nearly perfect mix of melody and industrial influenced beats

lp5 if you want the most accessible of the abstract- try out song one and song ten on that disc (arch carrier is one of the song names, i believe.)

confield if you want to hear an audial equivelant to a math equation (which is nice in doses, but i don't recommend listening to the whole album unless you have other stimulus keeping you interested ie weed, maaaan)

Todd Burns, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Autechre really were at their creative peak around the time they (and Warp as a whole) made it big - when they ditched the archetypical sound of "Inaculabula" (which was surprisingly unremarkable by any standard) and really developed "the Autechre sound", ie the years of "Amber" and "Tri Repetae", and the EPs from the same period (especially "Anti" and "Garbage"), roughly '94-'96. That was the time when they influenced everyone and its dog, from Radiohead to Timbaland to Kruder & Dorfmeister to Aphex Twin, as well as the whole swarm of new IDM projects.

Somehow along the years, like every band in history, they got to the point where instead of just churning out quality tunes in the "heat of the moment", the momentum you get when you go "hey, we're on to something here", they sat down and began to *think* about their music and where the development should lead to - and that's the point where a band loses the plot. I feel that Autechre started to go down a path where each successive album/EP *had* to be more dissonant, harsher, less aesthetically pleasing - just for the sake of it. The balance between the sublime abstract weirdness and the charisma of the "listenable" warm synths and coherency has been tipping too much in the direction of "what can we do to fuck as much with the sound just to make it barely listenable". Somehow they're trapped in what people expect from them: to deliver the most abstract and mathematically precise form of music on the planet. And paradoxally, this expectation has made them turn into both extremely unlistenable (yet still worthwile, because the gratification of spending hours to "get" it is still a lovely experience) and extremely predictable music.

Siegbran Hetteson, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

They are stunning live. But Confield was fucking dull.

owen hatherley, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Confield is the music I've been hearing in my head since I was a little kid. De/re-construction applied to rhythm. I don't feel much resentment they beat me to it, though. Classic.

Dare, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Confield is the music I've been hearing in my head since I was a little kid.

Dare = time-travelling prodigy!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

eugh, I wasn't hearing "Firestarter," I was a well-behaved kid. Those sounds running around in my head were just augurs of the post- Post-Industrial age -- and I Am Its Prophet!

Dare, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Overall classic, though God knows they can work up a good head of dull now and then. A pal of mine claims to have used Tri Repeatae as his sex soundtrack exclusively for several months. I never met the woman in question. Now that I think about it, maybe there wasn't a woman involved.

lee g, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

CLASSIC: if for no other reason that they are 5 years ahead of everyone else.

I bet Confield will make sense in 2006.

If you were to hear Second Bad Vibel or Viral(as Gescom) on a loud club system you would get autechre. Autechre rules because they were a UK IDM act that you can actually dance to.

mt, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Utterly, undeniably, without possibility of denial, with the fullest extent of utteration, classic.

Lee, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess you might call them "anal", but I don't think that makes them dull by any means. Tri Repetae in headphones while drowsy is the absolute juice. Their music somehow makes so much sense; I won't use the word "architectural", but it's very visual, like slowly moving your eyes across a complex surface and suddenly noticing that the surface isn't just a pattern - it has *depth*, a depth that reveals even more intricacies, relationships between sounds, varieties of grain, than you noticed at first. No matter how close you look, there are always more - little soundworms wriggling around, burrowing and digging, eating each other, multiplying. You go from imagining what the surface feels like to imagining what it's like to be inside the lattice itself - I swear you can almost *feel* this happen on certain tracks (especially on Tri Repetae).

This is one of those cases where, even if you don't like the group, you have to admit that they're pretty much classic.

Clarke B., Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

the definition of mid-brow shit-tronica.

(just posting here for a special troll in my heart who i see didn't bother to air his own opinions.)

jess, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Tri Repetae in headphones while drowsy is the absolute juice

Indeed!

I'll say it again (I really remember discussing this before): pure soul music for the 21th century. Maybe forbidding at times. Cold? Inhuman? Never.

Omar, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

the definition of mid-brow shit-tronica.

Jess, this isn't a Felix da Housecat thread!

Clarke B., Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahaha

ethan, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Do you like 'em, Eth?

Clarke B., Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Why I Hate Autechre,
A Report By Little Jess Harvell, Aged 24

Just listen to most of the adjectives which get thrown around in discussing Autechre and you see the basic roots of what I find so off- putting about them: mathematical, architectural, scientific. (And the others are usually made up!) Fer instance, here’s Rob Young in The Wire: “Chiastic Slide harbours a maelstrom of fizzing detail, smudgy beats, shredded pulses, church organ, toxic noise hurtling towards the end of its half-life, pumice stones rubbed across the skull.” Now, purple prose aside, it sounds great on the surface, and I’ve certainly not been one to shy away from “toxic noise hurtling towards the end of it’s half-life” (although it’s not necessarily where my music listening resides right now), but the construction of it…using words like architectural and mathematical to describe said noise immediately puts me in the mind of Wallpaper magazine: carefully smudged, immaculately messy, arranged just so. I don’t want to live in the Hemlich homes for hipster bourgeoisie as presented in Wallpaper. Why would I want to listen to same?

Otherwise, if it’s all random happenstance of Akai’s sputtering jargon and MIDI gone wrong, then it’s just Merzbow, and fuck if I have any time for that. Debate the Akita-aesthetic all you wish, but if it’s just a lot of little noises piled up atop one another for no reason at all, then I’ll be down at the pub. Sure there’s the beatz…if that sort of thing doesn’t put you right to sleep so many years after Artificial Intelligence (you reference Pink Floyd and smoking weed on your record cover = you are hippies.) Sure these days the beatz are ripped, zipped, serrated, and otherwise “fizzing” with that “smudgy detail” (thank you Cubase, et al.) But frankly when I want that (and it’s in very small doses), I can get it from Mouse on Mars (or hell, anything in the Koln- Kompakt axis) with more (to these ears) of that supposed warmth and “humanity” (a right fucking odd thing to be looking for in electronic music, admittedly) everyone always seems to hear in Autechre.

Now it’s a very poor argument to dis a band because of their fans, but look at some of Autechre’s more high-profile supporters: The Wire (always suspect when it comes to anything with a beat), post-acid- jazz beatnik tossers like Kirk DeGeorgegegeogogrio (I couldn’t remember his name, which means unfortunately he won’t be able to Google this), and of course, every shit IDM act (and related) from 94- 97. They like to make claims like “well, Booth and Brown have deep roots in hiphop, electro, breakdancing…” First off, who the fuck cares? Does it provide some slight succor against the fact that the moonwalk breakbeats are a. unessential at best and b. if really a “homage” to electro or hiphop, come perilously close to typical IDM- vampirism. Tom really nailed it best: it wouldn’t sound as good as “Lord of the Null Lines” or even fucking “Planet Rock.”

I’ll allow the slightest margin for error, that you’re all hearing something that becomes a garbled mass of noise rather than signal once it passes from my ears to brain. But I just can’t shake this feeling that like a number of artists from the 90s – Tortoise, Beck, Mo Wax – we’re going to look back on Autechre-worship with a mixture of contempt, confusion, and bemusement. Middle-brow mood food for the marginally interesting.

jess, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i love autechre!

ethan, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

but jess, surely the sundays act as a better comparison than hyper-on experience?

gareth, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The Hyper-On comparison was just for Gage-O's 'you need to hear it on a monster sound system' comment. Lots of stuff sounds good on a monster sound-system. I don't know if the Sundays do though really.

Tom, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, someone was worshipping Tortoise and Beck?

bnw, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

well, spin editors, although i don't know if they count as people...

jess, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

(that was posted because a. yes i believe everything said therein, but also b. because the certain someone from above hates my semi- serious ILM manifestos and was exceedingly happy that i didn't weigh in on the subject of autechre. so, just some rain for his sad little monkey parade.)

jess, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

How is what you say about Autechre not true of BOC, Jess? (Who I think are probably worse than Autechre).

Tom, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I am no jess, but BOC gets a lot of props for it's 60's hippy vibe which "humanizes" it. (I tend to think the definition of warmth and humanity is way too narrow.)

bnw, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

late period autechre (certainly chiastic slide onwards) is very BOC like, but more decayed)

who is the person jess is talking about?

gareth, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

off to bed now, but some thoughts on boc vs. autechre before tomorrow:

-fetishization of "process" over "feeling" (we're verging on "use other terms" territory here, but even booth and brown have admitted that much of ther output arises from equal parts a.d.d. and a tinkerers interest in what machines can do [and of course what noises they can make.])
-in keeping with the tinkerer metaphor: boc have seem to have staked out a particular patch and have obsessively - some might say until it's run fallow - worked it over. autechre have their patch too, but they seem far more likely than boc to throw you a curve which upends the whole apple cart and laugh while doing it. to me it's just more IDM-as-petulant-childs-crayon-box, free to smear their marks all over the clean, white walls of "proper notions of song." which leads into...
-ambience vs. assault (aka minimalism vs. maximalism? probably not, but hopefully you get what i'm barely getting at. ambient tone washes vs. static, clicks and noise. windham hill vs. evan parker?)

jess, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i have a feeling tom dislikes boc more owing to the "nostalgia" red- herring, which i'm beginning to understand more and more. no more feeling in electronic music! or something.

I am no jess

i think this is a joke or a taking of my piss. i hope to god it is.

(and gareth, if you must know, it's sometimes lurker/poster/troll dr. funk - my first critic! - who apparently (to read his blog) thinks i'm dumber than pigshit, although he's yet to have the guts to say it on the board.)

jess, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i just heard the new Autechre ep "Gantz Gtaf" and it's the worst, most unlistenable piece of crap i've ever heard........

but when it comes out, the press (Wire specifically) will be heralding it as the new-sound... blah blah blah blah...

Baxter Wingnut, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

what new ep? more info please!

gareth, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

there's no news on warp yet, but there has been an ep's worth of material floating around in mp3 format lately that has the autechre sound and is labeled in such a way.

all signs point to a new ep, as they need to keep their name out here after their tour, i guess.

Todd Burns, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Some reviews of Chiastic Slide said the boys had gone too far this time, if you stuck with them through that but were thrown by Confield, I weep 4 u.

Ignore the neighsayers: grow a lemon tree (ledge), Thursday, 18 March 2021 11:50 (eight months ago) link

Yeah Chiastic was a massive sea change, and they even stepped back ever so slightly on LP5. I might have been too young when it came out though, but I don't remember a lot of press about Ae at the time of Chiastic, whereas Confield got boosted a lot thanks to the internet

Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Thursday, 18 March 2021 12:12 (eight months ago) link

Chiastic didn't get a US release at the time, IIRC. Meanwhile LP5 was distributed through Trent Reznor's Nothing label, so there was a big wave of publicity.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 18 March 2021 12:20 (eight months ago) link

I felt like I was holding a rare unicorn horn when a friend of mine lent me their CD copy of Chiastic Slide in 1998. I straight away made a copy of that thing

octobeard, Thursday, 18 March 2021 17:27 (eight months ago) link

?? I bought Chiastic around '98 in the US in a store. Guess it could have been an import.

lukas, Thursday, 18 March 2021 17:30 (eight months ago) link

It was an import only then - $25-30 (in 1998 dollars) at places like Amoeba or Mod Lang in Berkeley at the time. No way you'd find it easily elsewhere in the bay area

octobeard, Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:19 (eight months ago) link

I was in Boston, and I'm pretty sure I got it at Newbury Comics.

lukas, Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:42 (eight months ago) link

Maybe Tower

lukas, Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:43 (eight months ago) link

I def got the expanded 2cd tri repeatae++ at tower but (checks discogs...) looks like wax trax put that out in the US. strange, I coulda swore I had to go into the imports room for it...

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:47 (eight months ago) link

It took me a long time to take a closer look at Autechre because I thought of them as that pleasant chill out music my raver friends would throw on back in my college days

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:51 (eight months ago) link

lol RYM lists "elseq 6-10" in the upcoming releases sidebar - looks like its just some fan-made release and people are getting pissed off in the shoutbox

frogbs, Sunday, 28 March 2021 01:57 (eight months ago) link

that said I'm soulseeking it and it's pretty nice. it basically just stitches together stuff from the 2014-2015 live sets but it really works

frogbs, Sunday, 28 March 2021 02:02 (eight months ago) link

I bought tri repetae++ and amber at salvation army :)

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Sunday, 28 March 2021 02:49 (eight months ago) link

five months pass...

I'm still listening to the autechre podcast (gonkcast) I mentioned upthread. They're currently going through all the Gescom stuff, which is something I never really explored much (tried listening to minidisc a couple of times and randomly listened to a couple of tracks here and there). This got me listening to Gescom and the podcast helpfully pointed me toward the best stuff (Key nell and ISS:SA).

"Key nell" in particular is interesting because it comes midpoint between Tri Repetae and Chiastic Slide and kind of shows how Autechre gradually got to the Chiastic Slide sound, which without the Gescom EP seems like this huge sudden leap forward in their discography.

silverfish, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 15:23 (three months ago) link

funny how when most musician threads get bumped it's a combination of "fuck are they ok" and/or "fuck what did they do" and with Autechre it's "fuck is there 13 more hours of music I gotta listen to now"

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 16:36 (three months ago) link

Sadly no.

Believe me, grow a lemon tree. (ledge), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 17:12 (three months ago) link

I'm still listening to gonkcast too, I have a low tolerance for 'two guys shooting the shit' podcasts but it's one of the less irritating ones. And Keynell is awesome.

Believe me, grow a lemon tree. (ledge), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 17:25 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

Basscadet Mixes

Kicking off my listening adventure.

This is … nice, if basic. The right thing for the low-stakes last day before a long holiday weekend.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:10 (one week ago) link

I’m being too harsh! It’s fun, pop, ruminative. It’s just not quite Autechre to me, but of course these are remixes so

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:21 (one week ago) link

The Seefeel mix is giving me Crystal Method flashbacks

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:27 (one week ago) link

I love how pop the structure of Basscadet is (as with a few songs, yes songs, on Incunabula), and the bass drop is really a blast. Not all the mixes are winners but it's an interesting capsule. There's a nice one with string sounds IIRC.

Are you working through their catalogue? I did that, or a large chnk of it a few momths ago over a couple of weeks prompted by a general AI nostalgia kick. Had the EPs collection on my phone for walking around for quite a while.

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:33 (one week ago) link

Noel, indeed. Going through using the Apple Music order, though I have to remember the EPs section. Maybe Wikipedia will make it easier to go in the right order

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:34 (one week ago) link

lol see you in a few years

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:35 (one week ago) link

Lol

See you on Election Day 2024

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:36 (one week ago) link

On to Incunabula

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:52 (one week ago) link

If you need a bonus digestive there is an amazing live version of Kalpol Introl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uTUnTGb15c

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 16:08 (one week ago) link

Which I guess is a bit of a spoiler for the Anti EP.

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 16:12 (one week ago) link

is the eps box in spotify? because there are a couple of things before basscadet (vinyl only at the time, but they are in the box) (box also has another basscadet version)

koogs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 17:10 (one week ago) link

I think it's only the Cavity Job 12" that's before Basscadet? Which isn't bad but more curate's egg than essential. I've owned most of the records but picked up the digital in one of bleep's boxing day sales for £10.

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 17:14 (one week ago) link

yeah. and the basscadet on the eps skips the two 3rd party remixes and adds one

Basscadet (Bcdtmx) 6:49
Basscadet (Beaumonthannanttwomx) 8:14 <- gone
Basscadet (Seefeelmx) 6:51 <- gone
Basscadet (Tazmx) 6:54
Basscadet (Basscadubmx) 9:37

vs

Basscadet Bcdtmx 6:48
Basscadet Basscadoublemx 4:26 <- added
Basscadet Tazmx 6:53
Basscadet Basscadubmx 9:37

koogs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 17:24 (one week ago) link

Was delayed on listening due to work stuff but getting into it now.

Can definitely sense richness, mystery, etc. You could
put this on at a party in the late 90s (or today) and people would dig it but for the most part not ask “who is this by”

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 18:22 (one week ago) link

Okay, maybe it’s a little idiosyncratic than that. Strangers who crashed your party might not ask who made the music but might invite you to their parties

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 18:33 (one week ago) link

FYI Incunabula is made up of tracks selected by Warp from a large set they sent in, so Amber is kind’ve their first album qua album.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 18:48 (one week ago) link

Although they have also said of Amber that they were trying a bit too much to make a "Warp" record.

Having put on Incunabula at parties in the 90s that's about right, although I want to say there was always something... xxp

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:13 (one week ago) link

Whenever I'm on hold and this comes on, I think of Incunabula

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT9qeveLyP8

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:20 (one week ago) link

Don't forget Lego Feet! 1991 era work by Ae, before they landed on the Autechre name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYNGy5k53k8

octobeard, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:47 (one week ago) link

That Karpol Introl live was great. Any other similar early live stuff?

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:35 (one week ago) link

is this your first go with the group Raymond? always interested to hear what those who come in completely blind think.

there's a web reviewer named George Starostin who used to have one of those sites where he'd just try to review every album ever made (I think he may be still at it, actually). anyway he's a pretty hardcore "Beatles are the greatest of all time/No worthwhile music was made after '83" kinda guy and for some reason he decided to start reviewing Autechre. he liked some of their early stuff - first 3 albums, mostly - but after Confield he was just completely lost. he still decided to commit to the bit and review everything up to at least NTS 1, pretty much writing the same "are we sure they know what they're doing" review every time out. I felt a little bad for him by the end honestly.

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:54 (one week ago) link

I’ve heard pretty much everything they’ve done (with the exception of the ocean of recent live records) at least three times.

The pre-1998 material I don’t know as well as the stuff beyond that point because I just don’t play it much - early AE is like a totally different enterprise to these ears! - so it’s almost like experiencing it for the first time, if that makes sense.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:00 (one week ago) link

A real trooper, George was, from the sound of things!

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:01 (one week ago) link

To clarify further: LP5 is where I got onboard (as it came out). I went back and bought and/or heard what came before that but it’s never done much for me, tbh.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:02 (one week ago) link

there's a web reviewer named George Starostin who used to have one of those sites where he'd just try to review every album ever made (I think he may be still at it, actually). anyway he's a pretty hardcore "Beatles are the greatest of all time/No worthwhile music was made after '83" kinda guy and for some reason he decided to start reviewing Autechre. he liked some of their early stuff - first 3 albums, mostly - but after Confield he was just completely lost. he still decided to commit to the bit and review everything up to at least NTS 1, pretty much writing the same "are we sure they know what they're doing" review every time out. I felt a little bad for him by the end honestly.

I just looked at this guy's blog and while he really seems to hate a lot of their stuff (especially Exai/elseq/NTS) he did like Oversteps and Move of Ten. Seems like he would probably like SIGN/PLUS if he ever deciedes to review them.

silverfish, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:22 (one week ago) link

Basscadet Basscadoublemx 4:26 <- added
I had no idea about this. Searching now.

raven, Friday, 26 November 2021 07:01 (six days ago) link

Basscadet Basscadoublemx 4:26 <- added
I had no idea about this. Searching now.

Ah, it was originally vinyl only. It's fine, not essential.

raven, Friday, 26 November 2021 07:06 (six days ago) link

i think the bascadet 10"s were the first autechre things i saw, in the virgin megastore on oxford street (first i bought was the envane cd, although i probably had the artificial intelligence cds first)

koogs, Friday, 26 November 2021 09:05 (six days ago) link

The CD version of the EP box has the untitled hidden pregap track from EP7 at the start of Cichlisuite too, btw. (the download version doesn't have it, if discogs is correct)

StanM, Friday, 26 November 2021 09:38 (six days ago) link

The CD version of the EP box has the untitled hidden pregap track from EP7 at the start of Cichlisuite too, btw. (the download version doesn't have it, if discogs is correct)

Oh that's good! An important one. It's super-weird that it's split across 2 CDs though :/

raven, Friday, 26 November 2021 12:49 (six days ago) link

The EPs box is a cool object, but it is some work to figure out which EP you're actually listening to, especially if you aren't really familiar with the track titles. The Gonkcast guys admit their lack of familiarity with the individual EPs as such when covering them (but then they lack direct experience with the physical releases in general). I've been working through most of the discography and Gonkcast in tandem, currently up through Oversteps. It takes a while for their "takes" to emerge, but it's thoughtful, convivial and nice to listen to while chopping up vegetables or whatever.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 26 November 2021 13:32 (six days ago) link

Not sure if I ever listened to that pre-gap track althogh I have owned EP7 on CD as well as vinyl (promos - an especially good pressing.) The EPs collection is remastered so the levels match nicely and it's easy to let it play through. One other thing missing from it is the alt version of Laughing Quarter.

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Friday, 26 November 2021 13:57 (six days ago) link

Checked out my spotify wrapped thing for 2021 and according to it I am in the top 0.05% of autechre listeners for 2021. I guess with still listening to SIGN/PLUS a bunch and also going through the whole gonkcast podcast this was going to happen.

silverfish, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 18:18 (yesterday) link


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