Von Sudenfed - Tromatic Reflexxions

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hahaha mouse on mars and mark e smith? what the fuck? i love it.

The Macallan 18 Year, Friday, 25 May 2007 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

that sound wiped is a fucking hit. oh man, it's so good.

Emily Bjurnhjam, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Every song's a winner, except "Serious Brainskin", which annoys me.

The back cover photo scares me.

henry s, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I should volunteer to drive on an upcoming roadtrip just so I can control the music and play only this album and The Fall. It'd be a good intro for friends who didn't know who Mark E. Smith was.

mh, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

It's good.

teflon monkey, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's good.

My favourite song is still the Rhinohead.

Drooone, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I went out and bought this after I heard "That Sound Wiped" (I was shocked to learn M.E.S. didn't actually *have* to slur all his words these days) and playing it now it is really making me grin from ear to ear like a little kid.

All those who gave up on the Fall years and years ago, it's time to come out of hiding if you can stand dance music. I can give a speech at the Fall-coholics meeting. I have seen the light and it is Von Sudenfed!

Bimble, Saturday, 23 June 2007 02:19 (thirteen years ago) link

this is alright. need to listen to it more but i'm not as excited as some ppl.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 23 June 2007 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Review: this is a very good album.

"SO I-AH FLOODED THE CLUB"

King Boy Pato, Saturday, 23 June 2007 11:25 (thirteen years ago) link

the songs that are good are REALLY GOOD, i will say. like that one.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 23 June 2007 11:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I was expecting to just kind of like this, but it's really growing on me after a couple of listens.

And I love "Serious Brainskin" - much to my surprise - having got completely sick of MES' "isn't the world a crazy place" rants.

Yes, O yes...

mrlynch, Thursday, 5 July 2007 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link

This album is actually a lot more entertaining than it seems on the surface. Besides "Dearest Friends" redeems the whole affair.

Bimble, Thursday, 5 July 2007 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Are there remixes? what's the deal?

Drooone, Thursday, 5 July 2007 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I only know about the Max Tundra remix that's on the 12" (and on their myspace http://www.myspace.com/vonsudenfed )

StanM, Thursday, 5 July 2007 06:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Going to see them live in August at the Pukkelpop festival in Belgium, yay!

StanM, Thursday, 5 July 2007 06:55 (thirteen years ago) link

thats so awesome. i havent heard the remix yet but i love love love max tundra.

chaki, Thursday, 5 July 2007 08:12 (thirteen years ago) link

'Rhinohead' is the best track here by a mile, the others could be growers, me thinks after two listens.

zeus, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:54 (thirteen years ago) link

why are people (on youtube) so freaked out at the video

wanko ergo sum, Thursday, 5 July 2007 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

men dressed up as women is CRAZY! that's why!

ken taylrr, Friday, 6 July 2007 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link

the best Underworld album in years

da croupier, Friday, 6 July 2007 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Fucking hell, that video is the most Classickest thing I've seen all year.

Bimble, Saturday, 7 July 2007 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I want every single person who likes the manufactured freaking idiot pop diva shite that passes for music nowadays to watch that video. They're making fun of the whole ridiculous media farce!

Bimble, Saturday, 7 July 2007 04:42 (thirteen years ago) link

oh my god
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSABYdYcszs

wanko ergo sum, Saturday, 7 July 2007 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Finally listening to it here. Great stuff, frothy even.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 7 July 2007 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link

wanko: wtf is that?

StanM, Sunday, 8 July 2007 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

just some dude making funny i guess

wanko ergo sum, Sunday, 8 July 2007 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, that guy's voice was really annoying.

Bimble, Sunday, 8 July 2007 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

On Saturday - driving up to Newcastle - I finally got into Rhinohead - took me a while though.

I love the cover art. It makes me think of the decor in a crap 70s hairdressers. In a parallel universe where MES and Mouse on Mars were hair product models.

mrlynch, Monday, 9 July 2007 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link

this is pretty rad.

the second MoM on the cover looks uncannily like an ex of mine.

get bent, Monday, 9 July 2007 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

God, I've been reading this as "Von Sudafed" since the beginning, and am hugely disappointed to discover my error.

dlp9001, Monday, 9 July 2007 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been reading this as "Von Sudafed" since the beginning

The similarity is intentional.

Mr. Odd, Monday, 9 July 2007 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Suden = South in German... does Suden + Fed add up to some kind of pun? Southern ____?

Jon Lewis, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

fed

s1ocki, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

'südenfeld' means southern field... if theres a pun there, i dont get it

, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I think one of the Mouse On Mars guys is from a town called Suden or Sudenfeld and MES though of Sudafed and there you go.

Mr. Odd, Monday, 9 July 2007 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

The Suden Will Rise Again

Jon Lewis, Monday, 9 July 2007 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Loving Von Südenfed right now, this stuff slays. Particularly the track "That Sound Wiped", take a second listen if you didn't get into it right away. Marky Smith is godhead.

Wrinklepaws, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link

That song is very extremely good.

You don't look like no goddamned singer-songwriter to me

Drooone, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i've got this playing on repeat all night

get bent, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 04:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I had to ... modify the chicken

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Can't MES forget about his squad rotation system and draft the MoM boys as the latest version of The Fall for a few more albums-uh?

King Boy Pato, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link

That or have MES join MoM. Or forget both and go under the Von Sudenfed banner forever. Because it's FUCKING WUNDERBAR.

King Boy Pato, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link

No laptop wankers overground
With Fall sound

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Taking sides - this vs the new Happy Mondays LP.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link

howsit?

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link

southall, even without having heard either i can confidently describe that as one of the most potentially one-sided TSs in the history of ILX

Just got offed, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, just check th monday's promo, and it sounds like crap beer ad music

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Both are aged Mancunians babbling over 'dance' 'music'.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I propose we add Section 25's new album to this Mancunian 2007 game. Whereas I just can't quite get really interested in the new Happy Mondays, the new Section 25 is pretty damn good.

But Von Sudenfed trumps all, I think.

Bimble, Monday, 16 July 2007 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I went in the end. Agree with above - MoM were awesome, MES was all over the place. Seemed to have microphone problems as well as the not knowing which song he was supposed to be mumbling over.

I thought the XX Teens were OK, assuming they were the band that was playing when I arrived. And the DJ between them and Von Sudenfed was playing cool stuff.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Is it just the two MoM guys, or do they have someone drumming? I think I'd really like seeing just the two of them on tour, MES or not.

mh, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Great gig report, JimD!

I really recognise the "he sucks, but he's great!" from trying to explain MES to other people who never heard of him.

StanM, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

Mouse on Mars. Like Tromatic Reflexxions but no MES... Still fucking great!

mmmm, Monday, 28 April 2008 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

SWEEEEEET REVIVE!

wilter, Monday, 28 April 2008 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

god this album rules

stephen, Monday, 28 April 2008 02:00 (twelve years ago) link

eleven months pass...

this is dope

Super Cool Family Roots SEV-AAHN (country matters), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 02:08 (twelve years ago) link

yeah!!!! REVIVE THIS THREAD! Lovely! LJ, I don't care about the haterz, you are a cool dude, and I'll back you up til the end.

To Float Away On A Lifelong Song (Bimble), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 02:15 (twelve years ago) link

being up at 3.30 am is not the zenith of cool tbh but this music is kinda keeping me awake...amazing it's taken this long for it to click

Super Cool Family Roots SEV-AAHN (country matters), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 02:25 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, dude. I'm with you. No doubt about it. Just gotta rip it to my iTunes and I'm set. Hold on...

To Float Away On A Lifelong Song (Bimble), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 02:28 (twelve years ago) link

The Rhinohead is, like, SO SO SO good.

a steak of romanticism (country matters), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

I FLOODED THE CLUB!

d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 23:30 (twelve years ago) link

that song is also very very very good

most of this, in fact, rules

a steak of romanticism (country matters), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 23:32 (twelve years ago) link

yeah it's definitely official

d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 23:35 (twelve years ago) link

fwiw I am discovering The Fall in a big, big way atm...this is very much the developing thing in my musical taste

a steak of romanticism (country matters), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 23:36 (twelve years ago) link

just get The Right Albums : )

they are awesome

d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 23:36 (twelve years ago) link

Somewhere on ILX I once said something along the lines of "I don't get The Fall". Those days are over. My hitherto tiny mind has been expanded. And this is only the start. Although, weirdly, the stuff I'm REALLY getting into is the late 80's/90's material. This is mostly because it's the only stuff I've really laid hands on so far. The Marshall Suite is a completely brilliant record, The Light User Syndrome not far behind, This Nation's Saving Grace is awesome awesome awesome (holy shit Paint Work), and the A Past Gone Mad compilation is pretty much flawless. Birmingham School Of Business School! The day I finally acquire Hex Enduction Hour will be a joyful one. I reckon I'm stepping in the right direction tho'. Actually the two records I'd really like to hear next are Levitate and The Unutterable. Hope that isn't sacrilegious. But my favourite Fall song so far might well be The Crying Marshall and the garage-electro sound really suits MES' style imo. Not that I don't rate the earlier stuff. I have Perverted By Language as well. That record seems to be mostly all about the Garden - Hotel Bloedel one-two punch. It's really nice, if a bit sparser than the later material. Gosh, I need to stop typing.

a steak of romanticism (country matters), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 23:48 (twelve years ago) link

Glad you're getting into the Fall! I think it's funny that you said you're stepping in the right direction because there's a song on Hex Enduction Hour called "Just Step 'Sways". Maybe you knew that, though. And for what it's worth, I didn't "get" The Fall at first, either.

To Float Away On A Lifelong Song (Bimble), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 00:05 (twelve years ago) link

I went through the same thing. I compare the Fall to one of those "Magic Eye" pictures, like they tend to look like nothing for a long time and then suddenly this image pops out at you... I was almost the same w/the Fall. They suddenly just made sense.

Hex is great.

Honestly I think The Real New Fall LP (Formerly County on the Click) is up there with anything they've done too, if you want a 00s record.

d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

I'm currently going through this with Zappa (sort of, because there's still a lot about him I hate, but at least the orig. Mothers 60s records I'm digging now)

d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

Levitate is amazing.

Don't go too fast...you are in for years of discovery!

Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

"He said, - YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE NO GODDAMNED SINGER SONGWRITER TO ME-UH!"

d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

^^^that song, I listened to it again today on the way to work, made me swagger

a steak of romanticism (country matters), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 20:02 (twelve years ago) link

man i love this

"He said, - YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE NO GODDAMNED SINGER SONGWRITER TO ME-UH!"

haha i mumble this to myself all the time

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

Name aside, this record is great to listen to when you're sick. I had a bastard of a cold around this time last year and it was just what I needed.

robertwolf8080, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

I been in mah gar-den
I just kept sing-ing

wrong traditions are kept alive (country matters), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Fuck, why haven't they made another one of these?

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:18 (ten years ago) link

because the first one's perfect! why ruin a great legacy?

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:24 (ten years ago) link

I see ur point, but I'm greedy.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:25 (ten years ago) link

I FLUH-DUD THE CLUB!!!!!!!!!!!

basedketball (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:30 (ten years ago) link

Alarming how many Fall fans I've talked to who have never heard this! Like two. But that's two too many.

Slade Venom Secret Police (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 3 February 2011 06:30 (ten years ago) link

Was listening to this yesterday as well! Marvellous album, so much fun and invention. Had a fluhdid the club moment on the train home. Periodically suggestions rise that they'll do another one surface, but I'm not sure Smith will consider it unless he's strapped for cash.

Herr Kapitan Pugvosh (GamalielRatsey), Thursday, 3 February 2011 07:59 (ten years ago) link

If he was strapped for cash, he'd make another fall album, surely?

Mark G, Thursday, 3 February 2011 11:59 (ten years ago) link

Not sure about that to be honest. I think a lot of the collaborative stuff, and indeed Fall repackaging stuff, as well as more or less constant touring, is partly driven by this (speculation on my part, but fairly strongly felt). The MoM collaboration was both high-profile and successful and MoM have said they'd be happy to work with him again.

Herr Kapitan Pugvosh (GamalielRatsey), Thursday, 3 February 2011 12:08 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

God, this is fucking great.

brie on crüt (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 26 June 2011 04:52 (nine years ago) link

But I mean it's Mouse on Mars so what do you expect

brie on crüt (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 26 June 2011 04:53 (nine years ago) link

No, it's Mark E Smith, what do you expect.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 26 June 2011 20:34 (nine years ago) link

MoM are incredibly good live. Von Sud live would be great, did they tour this?

mmmm, Sunday, 26 June 2011 21:10 (nine years ago) link

I've been waiting for Mouse on Mars to come back to the states again for, like, 7 years. At this point they are the band I most want to see live right now. Well, "at this point" has pretty much been the past 7 years.

brie on crüt (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 27 June 2011 00:39 (nine years ago) link

Von Sud live would be great, did they tour this?

I saw them perform with it twice, the first at.. Fabric was it? which was good (v good Fledermaus Can't Get It). And Heaven, which was absolutely fantastic. Extremely memorable. Even the security stewards were grinning at one point. There are recordings I believe.

Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Monday, 27 June 2011 09:23 (nine years ago) link

Was that the one were he kept on distractedly wandering off the stage? And it was also insanely loud? It was an experience, certainly.

ledge, Monday, 27 June 2011 10:24 (nine years ago) link

Hmmm, he did go off stage a bit, but I guess I'm used to that (he often likes to sing behind the amps I think). We're probably talking about the same one, as the Fabric one was rather less chaotic iirc.

Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Monday, 27 June 2011 10:30 (nine years ago) link

I saw them perform with it twice

Not sure we should refer to Mark as "it". ;-)

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 04:11 (nine years ago) link

Mark E Smith, yesterday

http://www.dailyinfo.co.uk/images/cinema/sammy.jpg

Neil S, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 12:42 (nine years ago) link

'...I ended up in the 1860s. I been there for 125 years.'

Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 13:45 (nine years ago) link

-ah."

StanM, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 14:01 (nine years ago) link

nine years pass...

Iiii was in mah gaaaaaarden, iii just kept siiiiiiiiiiinginnnnng

yuoowemeone, Friday, 12 March 2021 08:05 (one month ago) link

yamayamayamayamayamayama

assert (MatthewK), Friday, 12 March 2021 13:35 (one month ago) link

Iiii was in mah gaaaaaarden, iii just kept siiiiiiiiiiinginnnnng

― yuoowemeone, Friday, 12 March 2021 08:05 (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

such an anthem

imago, Friday, 12 March 2021 13:43 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

i was the DJ tonight, the other DJ pissed the bed.

maelin, Friday, 2 April 2021 21:01 (one week ago) link


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