Underworld - Classic or Dud?

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I've always been under the impression that, a few slammin' singles aside, Underworld was the epitome of style over substance. However, hearing "King Of Snake" for the first time and going gaga over their live album is forcing me to reevaluate.

Therefore, I turn to my peers. What say you - is Underworld fab or foul? Beauty or booty? Wonderful or worthless?

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Eh? Style over substance? Weren't you one of the people who heartily recommended _dubnobasswithmyheadman_ to me a month ago? :)

Josh, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Um, yes. This was after spending THREE YEARS trying to get into the damn thing. I now like it a good bit, but I'm not nearly as passionate about that album as I am about many of their singles, such as "Dirty Epic", "Mmm Skyscraper I Love You", "Born Slippy (original)", "Pearl's Girl", "Cups", and "King Of Snake".

I recommmend _dubnobass..._ because that's the best Underworld album and it's a genuinely good album. _Second Toughest..._ isn't nearly as strong and hearing "Push Upstairs" and "Jumbo" put me off of getting _Beaucoup Fish_, which I'll admit might have been a mistake because "King Of Snake" and "Cups" both rank up there among the best songs they've ever done. (But is it another case where the single is stormin' and the album is limpid? I don't know.)

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Dan, the thing with Underworld is that they have very consistent production and arrangement skills, which means that really you're gonna like each song based on how strong the tune is. Hence the singles seem fab, and everything else comparatively drab.

But "Beaucoup Fish" is worth getting. Both "Push Upstairs" improve the more familiar you are with them - both seem insanely repetitive to begin with, but I found both grew on me enormously once I went walking around the city with them on my headphones. Plus, you're missing out on "Cups" (deep house par excellence), "Bruce Lee" (hip hop meets Detroit techno), "Kittens" (a storming epic), "Something Like A Mama" (jungle-inflected track like "Pearl's Girl" with its tongue in its cheek) and of course "King Of Snake". It's a strong album.

Tim, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I never really had a problem with Underworld being style over substance--more power to people and bands who can pull that off as consistently as they have. So, finding out (via numerous listens and re-evaluations and re-re-evaluations--I'm thinking of "Second Toughest..." here, an album I literally didn't listen to for over a year because it seemed to be such an unworthy follow-up to "Dubnobass...") that "Hey, there might be something more here than just a storming tune or some nice atmospherics" has just been the icing on the cake (or maybe the lovely dense cake hiding under the sweet and pretty batter?). The live album has certainly helped in this assessment, but it has also made me wonder lately why so many folks slag off "Jumbo," which is really a beautiful and (I think) quite emotional song (despite the standard Hyde lyrical meanderings, which I wouldn't have any other way, of course). So many reviews of "Everything Everything" have inexplicably picked on my dear "Jumbo" as the dud track, and I have to wonder if it's because it simply lessens the momentum of the album (albeit briefly) or if I have been hoodwinked into liking a song that might, upon further reflection, just be a cute little toss-off ditty that will eventually fade in comparison to the admitted genius of "Cowgirl" or "...Skyscraper..." Whatever the case, "Jumbo" is what elevated "Beaucoup Fish" from good to great for me, and served more than any other recent track (yes, even more than the overrated "Born Slippy") to reaffirm my belief that Underworld are fab, beauty, and most assuredly wonderful.

Max Jones, Wednesday, 18 October 2000 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Underworld for me have always fallen down due to Karl Hyde's lyrics - back-of-a-fag-packet undergraduate cut-up nonsense which at best just distracts and at worst actively spoils the music, turning it from wide-ranging and danceable into a nasty urban noir mess. And his wannabeatnik delivery nobs me off, too.

Tom, Thursday, 19 October 2000 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I kinda fall between the stools here...there albums are slightly dissapointing (with the exception of Beaucoup Fish)...a fair amount of their output is wank...but stuff like "Rez" and "Jumbo" are those moments when dance music just transcends itself...stunning......probably because Karl Hyde cuts out that annoying gibberish

Michael Bourke, Monday, 4 December 2000 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

*Underworld*? Mmm...yes, well, Josh was kind enough to send it to me but I haven't read the damned thing yet. Well, actually, I read the opening section yclept "The Triumph of Death" when it appeared in Harper's (see, there's Harper's and death again...that's why the mag's so goth), and I liked *White Noise* quite a bit as you all know so I can't imagine any recent Delillo not being any good, you know?

Michael Daddino, Monday, 4 December 2000 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I thought underworld was just crap cause of the lyrics. but man, after hearing Jumbo, i beleive these guys to be masters of the art thaat is music, if not Gods. So much can be said for a single track to cause such revelation. by the way as cryptic as these lyrics are, why do all songs have references to "the city"? am i the only one that's noticed that.

Keyur Patel, Saturday, 23 December 2000 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Because they are like so urban and hip.

Josh, Saturday, 23 December 2000 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Underworld, very tricky proposition. When they're good they are well amazing (Rez, Skyscraper, Cups, Juanita), and it doesn't depend on the vocals/no-vocals division of tracks, see for instance Cups which has lovely vocals. The long-players have all been patchy, usually the first 3 or 4 tracks are storming and then anything can happen. The 2nd half of Dubnobass...has some great stuff (Dirty Epic, Cowgirl), Secondthoughts never recovers and Beacoup Fish has Kittens, which is...is...the sound of taking lots of drugs and feeling very expansive :) So between classic and dud, leaning on the classic side.

o.munoz, Thursday, 18 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

After "Rez" I could just about forgive them anything.

Stevo, Thursday, 18 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"Kittens". I heard a RealAudio excerpt of this when _BF_ came out and was suitably staggered. I was all set to run to the store to buy the album when I heard "Push Upstairs"... ew. (I've since grown used to that song, but I don't see anything overly special about it.)

Dan Perry, Thursday, 18 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Underworld have never struck me as self-consciously hip. When I listen to their music, I hear genuine angst, not posturing. Of course, if you don't *like* angst...

Snow Dog, Thursday, 18 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, okay. Having had an opportunity to at least listen to the first half of _Beaucoup Fish_, I'm somewhat staggered by how much I actually LIKE it! Granted, it's all stuff I've heard before, but if the rest of the album holds up, I'm going to have to temper many of the negative things I've said about them.

Dan Perry, Friday, 19 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

So, after that initial euphoric burst, I've come down somewhat on encountering "Winjer", although I note that as far as vaguely-ambient Underworld nonsense goes, it's pretty damn cool. So, we're still in the plus column...

Dan Perry, Friday, 19 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
It's obvious none of you were there in their 80s days, nor early 90s. Unfortunately, there are a lot of new fans of theirs with the release of BF, many of which don't understand them. You need to listen to an album fully (especially the 2 earlier ones), and repeatedly, and definitely see them live a couple of times. I find Karl's lyrics to be soothing oftentimes, and can sit around interpreting them for hours (even though they are, self admittedly, nonsense). There are other commercialized techno bands/groups/DJs where the lyrics distract a LOT more (Fatboy Slim? Daft Punk?) - and many are more repetitive than much of U/w's stuff. If you're listening to them to find dance music, find something else. Much of their stuff has been, and still is, ambient & moody, with the occasional club anthem strewn in. I find them a unique and rare band (well 2 of them, now), one which actually tries to innovate & mix their own stuff (look actual guitars).

Admittedly, I am biased (met them live several times) and I am more of an ambient/idm fan (ala FSOL & AFX) & some trance (Juno Reactor), and have been for over a decade, so there's your caveat and explanation of my fangirl-ishness.

UW_fangirl, Friday, 25 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

They're great live and they're great to dance to when you're off your nuts. What more do you want?

Dirty Dirty Dirty Dirty Vicar, Friday, 25 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link


I could listen to that all day. Or at least for about 4 minutes, when I'd get really irritated and want to bust up something. Still.

For the most part I find Underworld a bit boring but I still have their CDs because I like some of the songs. They're really not a classic or a dud, to be honest. They're more an existance.

Ally, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
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rhamnose, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Underworld for me have always fallen down due to Karl Hyde's lyrics - back-of-a-fag-packet undergraduate cut-up nonsense which at best just distracts and at worst actively spoils the music, turning it from wide-ranging and danceable into a nasty urban noir mess. And his wannabeatnik delivery nobs me off, too.

Strange - that's what initially attracted me to Underworld; and was the first step I took towards electronic/dance music - I hadn't heard any interesting throwaway cutup soundbytes-strung-together fractured- narrative stuff before, and the music seemed to be the perfect accompaniment to this - I couldn't imagine Karl Hyde-isms succeeding over a guitar backdrop etc. And as someone a very long way away indeed from Underworld's BritCity; it seemed oh so very exotic&mysterious&sexy. Inauthenticity of musical tourism, and all that guff; but Underworld were something I could be palpably excited by; and a doorway to a whole new world of music, apologies for RAGING CLICHES.

Ess Kay, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

one of the things I like about Underworld is the different moods on the albums. Cowgirl vs. Tongue. Pearls girl vs. Blueski. they do both the rock-out and the chill out pretty well

Ron, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Classic, classic and more classic. As classic as they get. Once in a while I feel compelled to go back and play everything I have by them: all the albums, seven bootlegs, ten singles. I sometimes have to dig out their remixes too. There's nobody else where I do this.

And I love Karl Hyde's lyrics.

Martin Skidmore, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

curiously enoght it was through underworld that i found this site. i frequently post on the foums at [url]http://www.dirty.org[/url] and fellow poster [b]girlthursday[/b] (minna) posted a link to this site.

i like all of their albums but [i]dubnobass..[/i] is defintely my favourite. i love the fact that the albums contain pure dance floor killers next to more downtempo tracks like [i]dirty epic[/i] and [i] m.e[/i]

they are also jaw-droppingly fantastic live - i've seen them seven times - and they were really the pioneers of taking dance music into the live arena and in so doing paved the way for bands like [b] orbital, chemical brothers[/b] and [/b]the prodigy[/b] to follow in their footsteps.

there's plenty of their live gigs available on audiogalaxy including the superb european club gig. fans should also check out [url] http://www.underworldlive.com[/url] which is an official site where you can download soundboard recordings of some of their gigs as well as some recent studio stuff such as the blue mountain sessions.

matt, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

NOONE HAS MENTIONED "DARK AND LONG", NOONE. Well maybe someone, but it's a classic too.

Ronan, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

does anyone else hear the chords to Brian & Roger Eno's "Always Returning" in "Born Slippy"?
since "Deep Blue Day" (also from Apollo) was in the movie, is this a connection/(not so)hidden-reference?

Paul, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

five months pass...
'luetin' was playing on the radio as i drove home, and afterwards the dj said "Hardcore electronica from Underworld!" which i thought was funny

ron (ron), Friday, 20 September 2002 00:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Has anyone listened to "Tiny Clicks" and "Headset", the two "vaguely-ambient Underworld nonsense" (as Dan puts it) b-sides on the "Two Months Off" single? Both excellent - "Headsets" in particular is pretty fabulous - and they'd be about the first time I've really warmed to Underworld's non-dancefloor biznizz. Will have to think about getting "A Hundred Days Off" now.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 20 September 2002 03:26 (seventeen years ago) link

The hilarious thing is that "Winjer" is now one of my favorite songs off of _Beaucoup Fish_!

Those two tracks are great. I think I need to live with them a little more before they really sink in, but so far they're much better than, say, the ambient tracks on the "Pearl's Girl" single. (None of them can touch "Tongue", though.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 20 September 2002 12:06 (seventeen years ago) link

CLASSIC of course, Karl's lyrics and delivery an' all but again i urge you to seek out Underworld's early material if you like a larf...'change the weather', 'underneath the radar' esp. - i can almost see them supporting Talk Talk with It Bites on tour in 1987 hahahaha

blueski, Friday, 20 September 2002 12:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Ronan, Dark & Long dropped into their live sets gets me going.

Alan (Alan), Friday, 20 September 2002 12:22 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe we should do a Taking Sides - 'Dark & Long' vs 'Dark & Long (Dark Train)'

blueski, Friday, 20 September 2002 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

"Dark & Long" any day. That bass line is to DIE FOR.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 20 September 2002 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmmm they played Dark Train last time and it was pretty amazing.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 21 September 2002 09:51 (seventeen years ago) link

they never played Dark Train or Dark & Long the times i saw them - bastads

blueski, Saturday, 21 September 2002 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...
can anybody give me an explanation over the song born slippy? Tell me what is behind the lyrics... thnx

bart, Saturday, 18 January 2003 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Born Slippy is about placentas.

now, on to my ancedote, which is about how the promo vinyl we got for 'King of Snake' was a 12" and os I put it on at 33 and it was SUPER FUNKY like WOW until Karl's vox came in and it sounded like he was a dying robot from planet Opium. So I put it on 45 and it turned into house music, which while quite good was not nearly as enjoyable as the 33 version.

Tom Millar (Millar), Saturday, 18 January 2003 17:50 (sixteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
Dubnobasswithmyheadman- is tHe bEST underworld album. Fav track: Dirty Epic. anyone that don't like that song's gotta be heartless.

whoever (whoever), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 07:26 (fifteen years ago) link

My fav one is Beaucoup Fish. Jumbo sounds more like Wire than Elastica ever did.


mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 09:16 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought "Spoonman" off "Dubnobass..." was flippin' ace!!! No one I know seems to like it!!!!! Mind you, I like repetitive techno bollox!!!!!!

I also went to one of the concerts (Broadcast on Radio 1!!!!!) at around the time of "Dubnobass...", (The same night as they found the body of Kurt Cobain!!!!) and it was grebt/GRATE/etc!!!!! Unlike the recent "live" album, it was one big long DJ mix style jam, mixing in various bits of their songs. The track on the live album which mixes "Cowgirl" and "Rez" is nearest equivalent- imagine a whole concert like that with most of the tracks from "Dubnobass..." and an early version "Born Slippy"!!!! (I've actually got a tape of it somewhere, taped of the radio...)

Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:27 (fifteen years ago) link

OMG! I did the same 33-45 mistake with the "Kittens" promo, with the same effect: the slow version easily trumped the "right" version.

Anyways, Underworld is still classic because did I mention that "Tin There" is basically my favorite techno barnburner ever?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't care how much everybody hates it, I think "Underneath the Radar" is a fucking GREAT 80s pop song.

The kickass house/blues romp "Big Mouth" (with some guy named Philadelphia Slim whom I've never heard of on harmonica!!) is another awesome underrated early Underworld song. Underworld kicks ass.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

total classic. however, i was one of those american kids who was rather impressionable when trainspotting came out and when record labels were trying to push 'electronica' down everyone's throats.. but stuff like dubnobassman, second toughest and the pearl's girl maxi single kept me around for good. second toughest is one of the albums ive played more consistantly than anything else over the last 5-6 years.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link


(I'm sorry I won't pimp out that article ever again, this is the millionth time, prob haven't written anything decent for free since, it was 18 months ago)

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Classic. They're one of the only bands my brother ever turned me on to. Second Toughest, I have to agree, is killer.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 8 January 2004 06:56 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...
I am listening to _Beaucoup Fish_ right now and realizing that the only song on it that I dislike is "Bruce Lee".

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

the thread about electronic music that moves you reminded me of this band.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link


24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link

i love Bruce Lee, where does that female monologue come from?

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 20 May 2004 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Hyde's lyrics are starting to annoy me more here and there these days, particularly on Luetin tho that is a fantastic track (a classic case of a track you are just casually listening to, a few minutes pass and then you just hit a moment and realise where you are who you are what's going on etc.)

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 20 May 2004 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link

might fill out those two in full versions

OK I checked (and typed up details and then accidentally pasted a URL over the entire post)

But the unmixed Pizza With Eggs promo blows out from 25 minutes to 45, including a 20-minute (!) Ancient Phat Farm Coat*. The unmixed Lovely Broken Thing is only 34, including a ten-minute Lenny Penne, but that's a full 80-minute CD even if I'm A Princess only gained one second per track... but there are two different commercially-released edits of Peach Tree alone that are each over 12 minutes.

*four of the six tracks had commercially-released edits that were slightly shorter than the promo.

(why yes, I have already been inspired by Drift to dig back into some of the C21 Underworld I skimmed or skipped, and in this era just gave up and stuck with the old 192k mp3s on my ipod while waiting for the 20th anniversary box)

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Saturday, 15 June 2019 02:28 (four months ago) link

I just want "Bamboo"

frogbs, Saturday, 15 June 2019 02:50 (four months ago) link

I’d be satisfied with however many seconds of “Showlder” were left off on either end of the mixed version

You can't see it but I had an epiphany (Champiness), Saturday, 15 June 2019 03:00 (four months ago) link

gave up and stuck with

(oh alright then, I downloaded some maniac's multiple re-mixed-together compilations of the best performances on the Oblivion With Bells tour releases, and then whittled down his different versions into two and a half hours of Best of The Bests, two hours of Alternative Best Versions, and another four and a half hours covering one version of every song played on the tour.

(and then put it in a folder unplayed and went back to listening to Drift and single / compilation tracks from the last ten years that I'd missed.)

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Saturday, 15 June 2019 03:06 (four months ago) link

hah I've had those kinda nights

today it's pretty much been "Pinetum" over and over

frogbs, Saturday, 15 June 2019 03:16 (four months ago) link

i've been playing the megadeluxe edition of STITI in the car lately and it's so good, all of it. what a group.

omar little, Saturday, 15 June 2019 04:00 (four months ago) link

someone on the UW Drift FB group found this. I had no idea Freur had a different lead singer in the beginning. Also: what the Fuck???


first comment is killing me

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 00:41 (four months ago) link

embed no worky, what's the link?

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 07:13 (four months ago) link


groovypanda, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 07:44 (four months ago) link

Karl on guitar and pretty sure Rick is the guy dancing with the stick

groovypanda, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 07:51 (four months ago) link

ha, that's delightful (and for sure Rick on stick)

Karl was always the singer in Freur (or at least: I had the picture disc of Doot Doot shaped like their squiggle from before they had a name, and it's his voice on it), but the obvious reason he's not singing there is that he is English

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 09:05 (four months ago) link

I've never been to Wales but I imagine everyone acts like that

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 13:37 (four months ago) link

Stick Rick was the hardest boss in Mega Man 5

maffew12, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 14:04 (four months ago) link

I live in Wales and can confirm that's true xp

groovypanda, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 16:39 (four months ago) link

reading through the Drift Episode 2 liner notes i noticed that Rick suddenly says "There was no Agata (Melt Banana) on that" while he and Karl are discussing the violin and sax players on "Appleshine" which i didn't quite understand what he meant by it, so i went digging and i found an interview from a few years ago where Karl mentions he has a side project collaborating with Melt-Banana in the works and he's a big fan of them so i'm thinking maybe some sort of Melt-Banana collab will show up in Drift at some point?



frogbs, Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:40 (four months ago) link

i think something weird happened with that embed so here it is again


maybe it's getting tiring to say "this fucking rules" every single time but

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:49 (four months ago) link

Thanks Brad!

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:50 (four months ago) link

going back to April now but Custard Speedtalk is phenomenal

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:24 (four months ago) link

Custard Speedtalk is the best video

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:30 (four months ago) link

that mega banger tune they've been playing live is now out


it almost seems custom made to segue into Pearl's Girl

frogbs, Thursday, 27 June 2019 17:32 (four months ago) link

this is one of the best yet from Drift

ufo, Thursday, 27 June 2019 23:48 (four months ago) link

oh my fuckin GOD border country

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 28 June 2019 12:19 (four months ago) link

it is really quite something

maffew12, Friday, 28 June 2019 12:41 (four months ago) link

well this is good

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 28 June 2019 12:53 (four months ago) link

second half in particular is amazing. this has got to be the fastest track they've done since..."Tin There" maybe? crazy

one thing I can't figure out is how the songs on this EP are gonna fit together...they're all very different from each other. I wonder how much they're gonna tweak for the release.

frogbs, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:16 (four months ago) link

ep1 was the only time they reordered tracks weren't it? For 2, Molehill got a nice coda. 3 practically unchanged.

all episodes have started strong. I expected Border Country to start 5.. so really hype for what they're going to drop in 2 weeks

maffew12, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:18 (four months ago) link

Figure that's Rick going "dub da lubby dub"?

maffew12, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:19 (four months ago) link

it's not like any of the drift EPs have particularly fit together really

ufo, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:24 (four months ago) link



maffew12, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:24 (four months ago) link

Starting to seriously consider pre-ordering the box set.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 28 June 2019 14:27 (four months ago) link

not a lot of tracks there... but anyway u think you saw on the forum where someone was making the point that they haven't had a song in this specific tempo,before,maybe? It was confusing. Underworld: not always slow

maffew12, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:28 (four months ago) link

*I think you

I need to stop posting on my phone. scuse me.

maffew12, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:29 (four months ago) link

oh yeah..."Scribble" I guess would be the obvious one. can't believe I forgot about it. anyway yeah on the boards it says this tune is 133...so slower than "Push Upstairs"? idk it feels faster. I immediately thought of "Tin There" and "Pearls Girl" b/c it has that same rush to it.

frogbs, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:31 (four months ago) link

It didn't strike me as particularly fast

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 28 June 2019 15:53 (four months ago) link

I enjoyed rediscovering both of these prime not-Underworld tracks recently and thought you might like to join me.

Realised that the Shakespeare's Sister 'Black Sky (Dub Extravaganza Part 2)' had soundtracked a few splendid dancefloor moments, both back in the day and more recently.


Rick Smith remixing Rob Playford and Goldie's 'The Shadow', I guess he's basically overlaying Underworld synths on those beats. Rules pretty hard.


Invisible (Noel Emits), Monday, 8 July 2019 19:09 (four months ago) link

Also. Hey.


Invisible (Noel Emits), Monday, 8 July 2019 20:38 (four months ago) link

so are all these live & rehearsal things going to be in the big box set or no?

StanM, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:16 (three months ago) link

I really doubt it - unless it's tucked away in the data section of the Blu-ray or something (can you even do that? I don't own a single Blu-ray). a bit frustrating, this stuff is great but it's pretty lame that it's all in low bitrates - the "Silver Boots" release sounds better than the ripped-from-radio version, but not by much. kinda silly to complain about a band releasing this much great stuff at once though

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:37 (three months ago) link


quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:37 (three months ago) link


quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:38 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Another Misterons mix today, up on both mixcloud and youtube, with new joints back next week:

The finishing touches are being put on Episode 5, Part 1 as this reaches you. Keep your eyes on your inbox next Thursday for your next serving of DRIFT straight out of Central Mexico…

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 1 August 2019 21:13 (three months ago) link

that mix (called "Chillin at the Shed") is very much worth a half hour of your time

first context I've ever liked "Push Downstairs" in by the way

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:10 (three months ago) link


fuck yes

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:53 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

most of Episode 5 has been less whelming than the previous ones, but today's is 13 mins of gorgeous bleepy jazz noodling, with one of the best videos so far


quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 30 August 2019 04:18 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

couple of records arrived yesterday. dubnobass is one I've wanted to own on vinyl for like, 15 years. but before this recent reissue they were not only expensive ($60+) but very difficult to find. same place had Barbara Barbara for $14 so I had to go for it


wanna get the full set but OWB & Barking are OOP and fetch pretty crazy prices on the secondary market

frogbs, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 15:20 (four weeks ago) link

Nice! second toughest reissue shouldn't be hard to find? I bought and returned it... record one was the A side twice. That was a new one on me.

maffew12, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 15:53 (four weeks ago) link

Barnes & Noble has it for $24 with free shipping so I guess I'll spring for that. its the shipping costs that really kill ya.

fun story behind the BF LP, I bought it off eBay in 2005, it didn't arrive for nearly 2 months and despite being listed as "Never Played" and in "Like New" condition the thing was full of fingerprints and very scratched up - it skips a bunch and "Push Upstairs" gets into a locked groove a minute in (kinda neat, actually). I left the dude negative feedback (something I pretty much never do but this guy deserved it) and he went absolutely berserk on me, sending me a bunch of emails that I won't share here due to an abundance of homophobic language. Amusing enough to nearly make up for the unplayable record. Figured "well, you can always frame it..."

frogbs, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 16:23 (four weeks ago) link

eBay's returns situation has since improved :)

maffew12, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 16:25 (four weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

Dia de los Muertos makeup for Mexico City gig:


now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 22:47 (one week ago) link

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