*drifts for about two hours*
Anyway. So he's got about ten million albums, much like his friend and regular collaborator Vidna Obmana, New Age types first heard him back in the 1980s, goths found out about him when Projekt started releasing a ton of his stuff and he's probably doing a sleep concert of some sort right this second, which will be released later. And you can find out more here.
Crossing over a bit from the Stars of the Lid thread so to bring up some stuff there:
most of those 80's space music precedents are currently hiding in dusty new age sections, with lovably terrible packaging, or they're long out of print. makes me hope we're in for a resurgence in the same way that Cluster's Zuckerzeit & the Harmonia records showed up everywhere after Boards of Canada crossed over, it'd be cool to see things like (Michael) Stearns' Chronos reissued.& when I say that Roach can be 'wearying' I'm mainly talking about keeping up with the number of releases -- when he hits the real longwave stuff, you don't ever want that sound to stop. the classic own-this-one-if-you-own-any-of-his-discs breakthrough Roach is The Magnificent Void, I'd have been fine with that as a 10 disc set -- that's a dark record, closer to MB or Lustmord than anything happier.-- Milton Parker, Tuesday, May 22, 2007 11:05 PM (Yesterday)
& when I say that Roach can be 'wearying' I'm mainly talking about keeping up with the number of releases -- when he hits the real longwave stuff, you don't ever want that sound to stop. the classic own-this-one-if-you-own-any-of-his-discs breakthrough Roach is The Magnificent Void, I'd have been fine with that as a 10 disc set -- that's a dark record, closer to MB or Lustmord than anything happier.
-- Milton Parker, Tuesday, May 22, 2007 11:05 PM (Yesterday)
Discuss as you'd like etc.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 03:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink
This thread title made me think perhaps you made a typo and meant Steve Reich. But I guess not. So, I have nothing to add, except that thrilling anecdote. As you were.
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 03:58 (eleven years ago) Permalink
There's a ton of Steve Reich threads, so search and revive!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 03:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink
steve roach can't be new age because his music sounds like sitting in a black hole for 3 hours
― cutty, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 04:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink
his artwork doesn't help though :/
― cutty, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 04:02 (eleven years ago) Permalink
my favorite is "mystic chords and sacred spaces"
― cutty, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 04:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink
The new one, Immersion: Three, is kinda mindblowing even for him -- never heard something so dedicated to being furniture music, endless drift and as Cutty says black hole listening all at once.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 04:06 (eleven years ago) Permalink
I also recommend the Mystic Chords 4CD, Roach in beatless ambient mode. Haven't heard the Vidna Obmana collaborations but I have two interesting ones:
In Trance Spirits (with Jeffrey Fayman, Robert Fripp and Momodou Kah) they add busy African drumming to the spacey soundscapes and the effect is great, smooth and droning.
Blood Machine (with Vir Unis) is also very good, computer beats they call "fractal" for some reason. Modern sound and kind of tribal, this actually sounds closer to Trance Spirits than any other Roach I've heard.
― no-nonsense, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 07:40 (eleven years ago) Permalink
I've hardly heard everything but
80's high point = Structures From Silence which is sort of everything that was good about new age -- if the digital synth textures sometimes seem a little simple, they really can be calming. I hated this stuff as a teenager in the 80's compared to trickier darker industrial or classic ambient or the more detailed textures of the Eno records, but this record's aged well. after his earlier sequencer-based albums that did a good job mining the post-Tangerine Dream lots, this was the transitional one where he turned off all the rhythms and went for duration, the last track is 30 minutes and I often just leave that one looping
then comes a whole host of tribal & slow rhythm records, aboriginal influences, peaked by Dreamtime Return which I remember not being my thing at all due to the melodies, flutes & indian percussion -- this was the soundtrack of a thousand head shops, crystal stores & california yoga retreats in the 80's, and a lot of other really frighteningly carefree scenes, and I skipped the next batch of followup albums. but I've been meaning to check it out again since Projekt reissued it.
then in 96 I was hanging out with Mr. Hate on his KFJC radio show and he segued out of a Zoviet-France track into something astoundingly deep, and my jaw dropped when he said it was Steve Roach -- that's Magnificent Void and it's a breakthrough record crossing over 70's/80's Hearts of Space & synth music with 80's ambient industrial, hugely influential and I keep coming back to it
he's very prolific and some albums sound samey, and some of the attempts to integrate the darkwave synths with the tribal rhythm stuff is not for me, but I picked up Mystic Chords and Sacred Spaces when Cutty started dropping it on listening lists and it was a good call, he's clearly been slowly working on the sound & hasn't petered out -- many points for keeping it up going on 30 years later, even though if you like him, there were a lot of interesting records in this genre
would very much appreciate calls on some of the other records
the "sleep concerts" are more pioneered by / associated with Robert Rich in the early 80's than Steve Roach. Rich's albums tend to stay on the darker side and his Stalker with Lustmord is also a total classic & I'm curious to hear Somnium - http://www.starsend.org/Somnium.html
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 08:09 (eleven years ago) Permalink
& if you like both Ligeti & Magnificent Void I recommend Roland Kayn
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 08:13 (eleven years ago) Permalink
I have two of Roach's collaborations with Robert Rich -- Strata and Soma -- both of which I have come back to many times over the years. They aren't out in deep space like The Magnificent Void, but they repay attention and inattention equally well.
I also like Roach's Quiet Music, which makes a good hangover soundtrack.
I agree his music can be samey, but considering what he's doing, that may be one of the reasons it's effective.
― Brad C., Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink
i often wonder what he uses to make this music--would probably ruin it for me if i found out
― cutty, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 18:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink
i have this one:
and used it for months as my sleep music, which it is perfect for (except the one track that has some tribal drumming). i think the liners say he used an e-bowed guitar for most of the sounds. i owned an e-bow at one point but never got it to sound like that. he's good at smearing the edge of sounds with reverb
― am0n, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 19:51 (eleven years ago) Permalink
Structures From Silence is a total classic.
― bassace, Thursday, 24 May 2007 02:13 (eleven years ago) Permalink
revive! I don't own a lot of ambient music, but I've been listening to Tangerine Dream's Phaedra a lot lately and decided I need to rectify this situation. descriptions of Roach's music make it sound right up my alley, but I'm just wondering which of his eight million albums to start with. so far the frontrunners seem to be Structures From Silence, The Magnificent Void, and Mystic Chords (which, incidentally, boasts one of the most endearingly awful reviews I've ever read on AMG); anything else I should be considering?
― bernard snowy, Thursday, 5 July 2007 15:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink
Streams & Currents is the only Roach album ive been able to get into. sounds nothing like Phaedra though!
― ☪, Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:12 (eleven years ago) Permalink
Roach's shamanic rituals take listeners deeper into the zone. The psyche is lost in the realms of this bottomless pit, this cavern of the surreal. There are no impossible worlds on this journey. In the realms of nothingness, deep listeners see everything. In seeing everything, listeners gather knowledge. The ritual continues to begin and begins to continue.
― am0n, Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink
Thankfully not one of the reviews I've done of him. (I'm sure those are endearingly awful too.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink
Anyway, Structures is a keeper, and I might suggest Early Man as well, plus any of the Immersion discs.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink
Streams & Currents is the only Roach album ive been able to get into. sounds nothing like Phaedra though!-- ☪, Thursday, July 5, 2007 4:12 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
-- ☪, Thursday, July 5, 2007 4:12 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
― bernard snowy, Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink
Bernard, I've been into this stuff recently too (I'm loving TD's Phaedra, Ricochet, and Stratosfear right now) and have been meaning to pick up some Steve Roach. From what I hear, the ones you mention seem to be the most frequently recommended Roach albums.
On a different note, I don't know if you listen to much internet radio, but there are two stations that play a fair amount of Roach's music (along with similar stuff by Robert Rich, Vidna Obnama, Pete Namlook -- new agey but a little darker ambient stuff): Soma FM's the Drone Zone and the Detroit-based Paxahau. Both are accessible through iTunes radio listings (under the "ambient" tag, I think) or from their sites. Paxahau has some streaming problems occasionally and can get a little choppy, but they play some pretty cool stuff.
Also, I'm sure you're into Eno already but if not, an obvious pick is Ambient 4: On Land. It has some great stuff on it that fits in well with Roach's darker stuff.
― Mark Clemente, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:05 (eleven years ago) Permalink
I actually don't own any Eno. I have some Harold Budd that I enjoy, so I was thinking of getting one of their collaborations as a good Eno starting point, but somehow I keep putting it off.
― bernard snowy, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:54 (eleven years ago) Permalink
get The Plateaux of Mirror right now.
― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink
music 4 airports > on land
― am0n, Thursday, 5 July 2007 18:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink
― strongohulkington, Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink
― ☪, Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:47 (eleven years ago) Permalink
I love Music for Airports, but I find On Land a lot more interesting. Maybe for a nice, calming ambient album MfA works better, but On Land has this uneasiness to it that I find pretty fascinating -- it's so wonderfully dark and eerie.
― Mark Clemente, Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:51 (eleven years ago) Permalink
i've given 'dreamtime return' a listen to tonight. i thought the first half of it was godly, then, i don't know. . . the second half just kind of went nowhere for me. i know i'll have to give this another listen or two, but if that's what i just got from this album right now, could anybody tell me if i should seek out anything else he's done? i mean, i really do enjoy this kind of shiftless new age-y ambience, but that did become a bit trying after a while. maybe it was my own fault for just sitting down and taking it all in at once?
― andi, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 04:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink
can be easy to overdose on this stuff, though enough of Roach's records are different to justify owning several (of the dozens)
it's always time to listen to tod dockstader's 'aerial 1' again, though it was composed decades after roach hit his stride, which is a big part of the reason I learned to <3 steve roach, time is on his side
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 07:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink
and then get The Pearl
do not pass Go, do not collect $200
― Edward Bax, Saturday, 6 October 2007 20:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink
Well what a coincidence - I've been listening to a lot of Steve Roach recently. I can't say I'd recommend any more than any other (that's helpful of me isn't it) but I will say you can really do some serious zoning out to it and that's fine by me.
― Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 6 October 2007 20:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink
His latest on Projekt, Dynamic Stillness, has one of the darkest sounding beginnings I've heard from him yet. Pretty dramatic statement of purpose (and matched by the artwork, which like the music makes me think a bit of Thomas Köner's work, if more by association).
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 05:40 (nine years ago) Permalink
Count me as a fan, primarily of Roach's 4th World ambient side. This album, in particular, is tremendously effective at evoking amelodic twilight rituals in the late Pleistocene, with much amanita muscaria:
Steve Roach - Origins (1993)http://img.digitroc.com/cd/569/L145141.jpg
It's sorta lost amongst his mountain of releases and collaborations, but to me this is the album where he achieved exactly the production ambiance he was aiming at post-Dreamtime Return. About of a third of his albums since have been variations on its formula.
― derelict, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 21:34 (nine years ago) Permalink
When I hear Roach's name, I always think of those terrible AMG writers who end every review with: "This is essential e-music."
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 22:10 (nine years ago) Permalink
Ran across a box of old tapes I recorded off the radio from when I was in high school. Most of them were things like the Dr. Demento show, KLOS' "The Seventh Day" (seven albums in their entirety!), but I had a couple tapes of KSPC's electronic music show - one of shows featured most of Roach's album Traveller. Definitely wears its Klaus Schulze influence on its sleeve, but it's a tremendous album.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 12 December 2009 06:43 (eight years ago) Permalink
If it's the droney side of Roach you're looking for, check out Robert Rich, especially "Trances/Drones." I drift off to that nearly as often as Budd and/or Eno.
Also, Jeff Greinke's "Cities in Fog"--music inspired by late night walks in the industrial outskirts of Seattle and the drone of trucks on distant highways at 3 a.m.
― Hideous Lump, Saturday, 12 December 2009 07:47 (eight years ago) Permalink
I've listened to a good amount of Steve Roach and one I just got off emusic called "Life Sequence" from 2003 is one of the best. It is kind of a modern return to the rolling German 70s style of repetitive rolling sequencer music that Schulze and Tangerine Dream would do and Roach did earlier in his career except with modern production sounds.
It is really excellent.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 01:04 (eight years ago) Permalink
absolutely the best music for driving around in southern california thinkin about your LIFE. for real. not bad for doing so in other states either but A+++ for doin this in california.
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 01:08 (eight years ago) Permalink
my favorite one for the last two years has been "Immersion: One" -- his first one where it's basically just an absolutely motionless pad, no chords changes, no events, nothing happens or changes for 73:16 -- I bought Two & Three as well, it's the same approach but I can't make it all the way through those, but One is a thing
I tried 'Dreamtime Return' again last year and it's still a little too glossy for me, when I try to sleep to it I get worn down instead of relaxed, it's almost like there's -too much- going on in it. still listening to Karma Moffett's 'Golden Bowls of Compassion' about every single day.
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 03:07 (eight years ago) Permalink
you know what needs a reissue? http://www.discogs.com/Geoffrey-Chandler-Starscapes/release/664130 -- recorded after hours at Orban in 1980
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 03:09 (eight years ago) Permalink
Structures from Silence impressed me when I was previewing it on iTunes. Actually, I'm a little pissed right now that so little of his stuff is on Spotify and MOG. I just wanna be like, "People, services like these are what your music is made for!"
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 26 May 2013 02:29 (five years ago) Permalink
you know what needs a reissue? http://www.discogs.com/Geoffrey-Chandler-Starscapes/release/664130 -- recorded after hours at Orban in 1980
Recorded and mixed at Orban Recording, Menlo Park, California using a Moog synthesizer with extensive outboard processing equipment, including custom multiple-delay-line analog time-base process, custom voltage-controlled narrowband and wideband frequency shifters, parametric equalizer and reverberation. Mixed through the Orban Stereo Matrix, which creates stereo space and depth effects.
I bought Structures From Silence today on iTunes -- I'm a huge sucker for endlessly shifting analog pads. Sounds to me based on the articles I've read the last few weeks that the guy is an Oberheim Xpander ninja of sorts -- this record would seem to be evidence of that.
I've had a bit harder of a time digging into The Magnificent Void tho I definitely appreciate it for its...emptiness. This is one that actually is on Spotify so I'd like to give it a few more chances.
Another I've poked around on iTunes with is Empetus -- one of his more Berlin-ish sequencer outings from the mid-80s. The reissue has another CD of long sequencer tracks he did in 1982. Clips make it sound good -- presumably on his ARP 2600.
Apparently if you buy CDs from his site he'll apparently autograph them! Not sure that's enough to make me pile yet more CDs into my house -- but I'd still like to hear more.
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 2 June 2013 04:11 (five years ago) Permalink
A healthy approach.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 2 June 2013 04:39 (five years ago) Permalink
Cool piece on the 30th anniversary of Structures:
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 21:19 (four years ago) Permalink
And here's my own on same!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 16:28 (four years ago) Permalink
Good piece, Ned.
Thoughts on the two other discs? Liner notes?
I admit that I haven't yet quite *gotten* Roach's immersive thing just yet – and that part of what I love about this record is that it has layers upon layers of what is, at the end of the day, a distinctively Oberheim sound.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 16:59 (four years ago) Permalink
The original edit mentions the extra two discs more -- also lovely but, I think enjoyably and appropriately, different from the original; he didn't try and recreate the sound but sought to explore the same themes from his point of view from where he more currently stands.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 17:08 (four years ago) Permalink
Been listening to my (older) Projekt re-release of Structures from Silence and wondering if it is worth ordering the deluxe edition or just snagged some other Roach back catalog stuff I've missed. I get enough shit for buying more than one Steve Roach album, imagine if they find out I'm buying the same one twice. Actually it won't surprise anyone at this point.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 17:08 (four years ago) Permalink
Part of me thinks, "Gee, I really love SfS, I wish he recorded more stuff like it" – which it course makes me think I should buy the set as well...
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 17 April 2014 01:46 (four years ago) Permalink
New tracks not really like SfS at all, instantly spotable as recent output.
I got a copy of 'Dynamic Stillness' last year at the Hearts of Space festival in San Rafael and it's solid recent Roach, same textures as the Immersions but with much more in the way of slow harmonic changes & melodies.
Been listening to a lot of Jorge Reyes recently and have just gotten around to the two Suspended Memories collaborations with Roach. Maybe a little less deep than Reyes on his own but still pretty great.
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 17 April 2014 02:04 (four years ago) Permalink
That's one I've not heard but the title alone makes me think almost certainly.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 March 2017 22:17 (one year ago) Permalink
great interview Ned
been hanging out a bit more often in Tuscon and Bisbee recently. this music sure makes a lot more sense after long road trips to Chiricahua and back.
― Milton Parker, Saturday, 11 March 2017 23:37 (one year ago) Permalink
Thanks indeed -- and yeah, his description of where he lives (didn't make the cut) was quite vivid.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 12 March 2017 00:10 (one year ago) Permalink
Roach contains multitudes! Ned's piece made me curious about Dust To Dust, with Roger King. I own about 15 Steve Roach albums and I'd estimate that I've heard about double that number, but I've never heard him do anything like this, parts of which sound like what The Hired Hand soundtrack might have sounded like if it was released by Kranky in the 90s, or if Labradford had taken their ambient spaghetti western-isms to their logical conclusion. OK, some of it is that good, some of it isn't, but it's still a side of Roach I've never heard (harmonicas!) and I'm really enjoying it.
― Wimmels, Sunday, 12 March 2017 00:28 (one year ago) Permalink
It's a treat, and holds a special place for me since it's the first thing I ever heard from Roach that I can recall. He told me himself that it was a bit of a unique one-off!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 12 March 2017 00:29 (one year ago) Permalink
I'm hot and cold with Roach, with my favorite period being the 1998-1994 tribal ambient of Dreamtime Return, Origins, Artifacts and the collaborations with Robert Rich and Jorge Reyes (who got there first). However Dust to Dust is off his map, and I file it with Ry Cooder soundtracks, A Small Good Thing, Long Desert Cowboy, and similar artists, rather than Roach proper.
― Sanpaku, Sunday, 12 March 2017 02:03 (one year ago) Permalink
Mystic Chords & Sacred Spaces weirdly not on the Bandcamp but I consider that one indispensible
― though the tempest rages, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 12 March 2017 02:58 (one year ago) Permalink
yeah that one's my fav
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Sunday, 12 March 2017 03:01 (one year ago) Permalink
That's one of the ones over on Projekt's site:
And agreed, it's stellar.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 12 March 2017 06:38 (one year ago) Permalink
Holy crap, I hadn't run across Dust To Dust before!
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 12 March 2017 07:58 (one year ago) Permalink
Ha, really? Yeah if any album is absolutely you, it's that one.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 12 March 2017 14:22 (one year ago) Permalink
Currently enjoying Dust to Dust very much. Great interview, too.
I want a recommendation engine for 'wide open desert' music - stuff like Dust to Dust, the Hired Hand soundtrack, any Scott Tuma, Eyvind Kang's Live Low to the Ground...
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 18 March 2017 19:39 (one year ago) Permalink
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 March 2017 19:51 (one year ago) Permalink
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, March 18, 2017 3:39 PM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Those last three are the biggies, imo, assuming you probably already know the Paris, Texas soundtrack. Do you know a band called Padang Food Tigers? They definitely hit on this vibe quite a bit, despite being about as far from the desert landscape as you can get (UK, iirc). Also, there are a lot of people working this angle from a dronier / noisier angle, like pedal steel guitarist Chas Smith (not to be confused with drummer Ches Smith), William Fowler Collins, and probably a few others.
There are probably people who can direct you to the "right" Calexico records, too (there are instrumental albums that definitely touch on this style) but I'm not really well-versed enough to say
― Wimmels, Saturday, 18 March 2017 20:03 (one year ago) Permalink
Yes - love the Food Tigers! And, aye, definitely uk based. Paris, Texas is all-time. I'd forgotten Chas Smith. Santa Fe is a hell of a thing. Will check William Fowler Collins, for sure. Cheers.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 18 March 2017 20:10 (one year ago) Permalink
Calexico pals Friends of Dean Martinez, their discography is all wide open sounds, the album "Atardecer" is my personal favorite.
― nomar, Saturday, 18 March 2017 20:30 (one year ago) Permalink
Try Marco beltrami's film score for tommy lee jones' The Homesman. Actually his other scores for Jones kind of fit too.
― chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 18 March 2017 20:38 (one year ago) Permalink
Seconding William Fowler Collins. Great live, too.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 March 2017 21:23 (one year ago) Permalink
I want a recommendation engine for 'wide open desert' music
Susan Alcorn - And i await the Resurrection (maybe not her best, but its what I have)Barn Owl - any Ry Cooder - Paris, Texas of course, also look for Trespass, Last Man Standing OSTsDead Texan - eponymous debutBruce Kaphan - Slider: Ambient Excursions for Pedal Steel GuitarLong Desert Cowboy - anyRainer (Ptacek) - Nocturnes
― Sanpaku, Sunday, 19 March 2017 06:14 (one year ago) Permalink
if Live Low To The Earth In The Iron Age is part of this genre, I'm starting a thread
― sleeve, Sunday, 19 March 2017 06:19 (one year ago) Permalink
"wide open desert music" S/D
― sleeve, Sunday, 19 March 2017 06:23 (one year ago) Permalink
Light Fantastic is one of my favorites by Steve Roach. That one has sections of meditations but then breaks into the big trancy Berlin like sequences.
― earlnash, Sunday, 19 March 2017 06:32 (one year ago) Permalink
regarding Mystic Chords, is it important for me to get the 3CD 'complete version' or am I fine with the still huge but less so editions? I have some emusic credits to burn.
― chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 14:06 (one year ago) Permalink
I personally think the more Roach the better but some is better than none. And I can't remember if the complete edition has extra tracks or not on top of the original releases.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 14:24 (one year ago) Permalink
i recently learned that roach did a record with michael shrieve in 1988, the leaving time. it is on youtube and is just as fucking awesome as one might hope. transfer station blue vibes.
― adam, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 14:32 (one year ago) Permalink
>regarding Mystic Chords, is it important for me to get the 3CD 'complete version' or am I fine with the still huge but less so editions? I have some emusic credits to burn.
I thought Mystic Chords was 4 CDs. At any rate, if you're at all interested, you're gonna want all of it eventually.
― J. Sam, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 14:42 (one year ago) Permalink
oh wait, haha... I have 17.00 emusic credits left this month and the mystic chords 4CD is 17.20 so maybe next month.
― chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:32 (one year ago) Permalink
Mystic Chords is two 2-CD sets. The box set is literally just an outer box that holds both the sets. No extra tracks. I like discs 2 and 4 the best... Labyrinth and Piece of Infinity.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:32 (one year ago) Permalink
I wish he'd release a box set of the Immersion discs! Those are great if you favor the meditative/drone stuff. But I guess it would be, what... an 8-disc set?
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:35 (one year ago) Permalink
I'd largely avoided Roach up until now - mainly because I think I'd misread him as gimmicky or new age* (in the pejorative sense). What with Ned's interview and various bits on here and the wide open space thread, I am happy to say I was horribly, gloriously wrong. I'm now frantically(so to speak) trying to navigate his discography trying to work out where to go next.
*this is within the bounds of fairness, right? See a man with a mullet holding a didgeridoo and I tend to wander the other way...
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 1 April 2017 17:05 (one year ago) Permalink
Well I am now on a Steve Roach kick.
Listening mostly to the earliest stuff, when he still sounds a lot like Tangerine Dream. And actually, I kind of like it better than TD -- shorter songs, not as much cheese. Actually, one of the best things I've heard is an epic track called "Harmonia Mundi" that was a bonus on the reissue of Empetus. 45-minutes of immaculate Berlin school patterns, and sounds like it could be the soundtrack for an entire season of Stranger Things by itself.
― Dominique, Monday, 22 May 2017 17:26 (one year ago) Permalink
thanks! what other early years highlights have you got?
― twink peas it is happening again (Jon not Jon), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:45 (one year ago) Permalink
I would say Now, Traveler and Empetus are all strong Berlin school styled records, with scattered floaty ambient that you would expect from Roach. Traveler & Empetus (with the bonus track) are particularly strong
― Dominique, Monday, 22 May 2017 17:48 (one year ago) Permalink
As Traveler was mentioned by Dominique there, worth noting that it's now available on Bandcamp as a name-your-price
He also put up this one from 2001 as well
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 14:05 (one year ago) Permalink
So what the hell is "e-music" supposed to have been? I've been reading AMG reviews, and it keeps being mentioned. Is it music along the lines of New Age but with electronics?
Also, this was just released as pay-what-you-want, and it sounds promising: https://steveroach.bandcamp.com/album/eclipse-mix.
― Pataphysician, Thursday, 17 August 2017 19:49 (one year ago) Permalink
I think it was an MP3-for-sale service?
― sleeve, Thursday, 17 August 2017 21:18 (one year ago) Permalink
tsk get outta here
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 17 August 2017 21:19 (one year ago) Permalink
I meant the "genre" that is alluded to in several reviews. Because of the mp3 service, I can't really google any other references to the genre. It's used in a lot of reviews on AMG by Jim Brenholts, e.g.,
"This CD is destined to be a classic. It will appeal to all e-music fans."
"There have been some dynamic collaborations in the e-music community."
"Stalker, by Robert Rich and B. Lustmord, is one of the darkest e-music CDs ever."
Also, I need to put a plug in for a Steve Roach album that isn't mentioned above: Spiral Revelation from 2016. Back to more Berlin-style synths sort of. Not nearly as frenetic as his earlier stuff in that vein. Much more akin to the recent albums by Steve Hauschildt, but naturally much more atmospheric than Hauschildt. Really good stuff!
― Pataphysician, Friday, 18 August 2017 17:39 (one year ago) Permalink
I believe it's just an abbreviation of "electronic music", but favoured in the late 80s/90s by artists working in that field of spacey, ambient, Berlin-school, trad electronica (when "synth music" was a genre, rather than a description of most things). You'd hear it used all the time on the Jean Michel Jarre email discussion list I was on in the 90s, which probably puts it in context.
― bamboohouses, Monday, 21 August 2017 09:26 (one year ago) Permalink
― Pataphysician, Monday, 21 August 2017 12:28 (one year ago) Permalink
Playing three nights in a row in Tucson starting tonight, live stream via soma.fm, and he's about to start for tonight, so listen in
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 February 2018 03:03 (eight months ago) Permalink
Laying back quite a bit on the front half of this set. It's definitely a space track so far.
― earlnash, Saturday, 10 February 2018 03:30 (eight months ago) Permalink
90 minutes inn...'oh yes, there are the drums'....
― earlnash, Saturday, 10 February 2018 03:47 (eight months ago) Permalink
Dreamtime Return reissued:
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2018 06:21 (seven months ago) Permalink
There's an expanded version of Dreamtime Returns on the way apparently, with new tracks in the same style (as with the deluxe version of Structures From Silence a few years back). Plus a vinyl reissue too.
― bamboohouses, Friday, 9 March 2018 09:40 (seven months ago) Permalink
i recently found 2cd edition of 'quiet music' in a charity shop for £1.that was a very good day.had only heard the deep rich sonics of 'ritual ground'by steve roach and elmar schulte before.
― mark e, Friday, 9 March 2018 11:35 (seven months ago) Permalink
I just discovered the album "Invisible", one of his long drone tracks. It stands out because it has some interesting percussion and textures that other works of his like this lack. Similar to that is the last track on "World's Edge". Both are worth checking out!
― Pataphysician, Monday, 26 March 2018 03:57 (six months ago) Permalink
A fun bit of history
Steve Roach found the mock up of the Structures From Silence cover. This was the first cassette edition he self-released. Quickly it found its way to Stephen Hill @drSpace Hearts of Space @hearts_of_space and then to Ethan Edgecomb at Fortuna Records and the rest is history. pic.twitter.com/QKTIgfNKLR— Projekt Records (@ProjektRecords) April 9, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 April 2018 19:05 (six months ago) Permalink
i put his new one on while i was writing something and there's almost too much going on for it to function as writing music lol
it's really great too i think https://steveroach.bandcamp.com/album/molecules-of-motion
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 July 2018 20:33 (two months ago) Permalink
i get very overwhelmed by his discography so i've just been going through chronologically lately. structures from silence is incredible, all the 80s stuff is imo
― marcos, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 20:53 (two months ago) Permalink