I'll see if I can find it again. There is an instrumental of "Paper Planes" around, so maybe someone just used that to do a version -- still, it would be kind of a weird choice for a west-African vocal group to sing over, and it appears that the instrumental Diplo put out there still has M.I.A.'s chorus on it, which this one didn't (though obviously they could just loop the verses) ... I should just track this thing down again.
― nabisco, Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:34 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
real late to the party here but did you mean this joint
― the birdman from the hilarious lil wayne albums (and what), Saturday, 15 November 2008 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link
nice
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 16 November 2008 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link
thank you, ethan :-)
― Eisbaer, Monday, 17 November 2008 09:37 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.blackbookmag.com/article/danny-boyle-on-slumdog-millionaire-and-the-smell-of-india/5013
You asked M.I.A. to do a song for the film? We asked her if we could use “Paper Planes”, and she watched the movie and she was very generous, gave me very smart notes. I said we were going to do the music with A.R. Rahman, and when she was growing up, he was one of her heroes, so she sang on one of his tracks.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 17 November 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link
huh! tried to see that Sat. night but it was sold out (it's only on one or two screens in nyc so far)
that Esau Mwamwaya youtube is sweet
― dmr, Monday, 17 November 2008 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Okay I think "The Turn" is maybe an order of magnitude better than everything else on this album.
btw I was amazingly rong about this
― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link
13 Paper Planes (Allstars mix) - MIA15 Shells - MIA17 Far Far - MIA18 Big Branch - MIA19 What I Got - MIA20 Sound of Kuduro - Bukara Som Simesta & MIA
These are the only tracks that made it onto my bonus track copy btw. I've listened to them all once and I like them all but might be completely, insufferably obsessed with "Big Branch" soon.
― ^likes black girls (HI DERE), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link
ethan your critique would have more weight if you'd actually give the stuff a listen - "fake dancehall" is beneath you
― J0hn D., Wednesday, September 5, 2007 10:11 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
cant believe i caught shit for this - im listening to the lady saw joint on this old 2003 dancehall comp & my co-worker just asked me "is this MIA"?
― and what, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link
was hoping this was getting bumped as part of worldwide hipster day 2008
― 8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link
"cant believe i caught shit for this - im listening to the lady saw joint on this old 2003 dancehall comp & my co-worker just asked me "is this MIA"?"
This proves it then. It's just fake dancehall.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 15 January 2009 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link
where did i say it's "JUST" fake dancehall
there's other fake stuff on there too
― and what, Thursday, 15 January 2009 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Fake stuff is good.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 15 January 2009 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link
good fake stuff is good
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 15 January 2009 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link
was about to make that clarification
― ^likes black girls (HI DERE), Thursday, 15 January 2009 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Good stuff is good.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 15 January 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
we all agree!
― ^likes black girls (HI DERE), Thursday, 15 January 2009 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link
whistle whistle blow blowhere we here we go go
― a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link
This album is the worst.
― katherine helmand province (jaymc), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link
This isn't the La Roux thread, dude.
― a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Sorry to bring up p2k, but I was disappointed to see this only in the early 20s.
― David Katz (davek_00), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
"mia is shit" troll
― velko, Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link
I was disappointed to see this only in the early 20s.
it's my own personal designated Album of the '00s. but i don't expect that to be a consensus view.
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I will never for one second of my life understand people who prefer Kala.
― suggestbannn/the lorax below (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Why?
― a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link
prefer it to arular,you mean? better songs, more interesting production. (i like arular a lot too, don't get me wrong.)
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link
The songs that fall down on Kala don't disrupt the flow of the album nearly as much as the songs that fall down on Arular, plus Kala doesn't have anything on it as aggressively annoying as "10 Dollar". Also, the more I played Kala, the more I liked the songs I found initially annoying, whereas with Arular I ended up disliking songs I initially liked ("Bucky Done Gun" being the big culprit there).
― a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link
(from my perspective, namely wishing more of Arular was like "Amazon" and "URAQT", Kala was a massive step in the direction I wanted her to go)
― a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link
the more I played Kala, the more I liked the songs I found initially annoying
this was especially true for me of "20 dollar" and "hussel."
but i still shut off the timberland track at least half the time.
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link
timbAland, obv....
Arular doesn't HAVE any songs that fall down, top 5 album of the decade imo. About a third of Kala is sludgy and tedious and barely listenable. And Arular had better songs and production, some stuff on Kala seems undersketched and the whole album sounds dry and brittle where Arular sounded warm and colorful.
― suggestbannn/the lorax below (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
the whole album sounds dry and brittle where Arular sounded warm and colorful.
it's funny, that's almost the opposite of how i'd describe them. warm and colorful is exactly how i hear kala.
but i don' wanna fight, i love them both.
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 1 October 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link
can't stand Arular - this album is miles better
― the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 1 October 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Amazon, on Arular, is unf--kwithable.
But I also love the last song on KALA (sans the horrible Timbaland vocal bit), so my opinion can't be trusted.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 October 2009 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link
i only ever listen to maybe half (or less) of the songs on kala, but they're better than most or all of the good stuff on arular
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 1 October 2009 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link
piracy is still my favorite, i think?
― THE DUSKY VISITOR APPEALS TO CÆSAR (gbx), Thursday, 1 October 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
So if we're really going down this route, here are the songs I fuck with on Arular:
Pull Up the PeopleFire FireAmazonSunshowersGalangHombreURAQT MIA
Here are the songs I fuck with on Kala:
Bamboo BangerBird FluBoysHussel$20World TownXR2Paper PlanesCome AroundShellsFar FarBig BranchSound of Kuduro
― a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Thursday, 1 October 2009 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link
No fair using the bonus tracks!
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 1 October 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link
I think I need to listen to these albums side by side to decide. My instinct sez that Arular is slightly better, but I also agree that the Piracy mixtape is the best thing her name is attached to.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 1 October 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, this sums my position up basically. kala keepers = "bamboo banga", "hussel", "bird flu", "paper planes" - all some of the absolute best things m.i.a.'s done. to a lesser extent, "jimmy" and "xr2" are pretty good too, but there's nothing else on the album i really care about. whereas there's little on arular i dislike; maybe a caveat for preferring the dj marlboro remix of "bucky done gun" and the piracy funds terrorism version of "sunshowers".
― lex pretend, Thursday, 1 October 2009 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link
the piracy funds terrorism version of "sunshowers".
cosign
― sleeve, Thursday, 1 October 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link
i dunno which i prefer, there's a few tracks from both albums i jam on the reg and i ignore the others on each. probably swing towards Kala tho.
― modescalator (blueski), Thursday, 1 October 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link
dunno why 'Come Around' gets hate either ("MIA doesn't live in a teepee" is a lame reason)
― modescalator (blueski), Thursday, 1 October 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link
also kala sounds so much better and bigger, as opposed to arular's cheapo aesthetic
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 1 October 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link
The Arular CD doesn't sound cheapy at all though. Just the original leaked mp3s.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 1 October 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
i have a real copy and all the production sounds kinda thin and digital to me. i think it's intentional and i like it, but i like the samples and percussion assaults on kala more.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 1 October 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
it's definitely possible that my enthusiasm for arular was tempered by knowing and loving a lot of those songs in their piracy form first.
as for "come around," it's ok, but it's a sort of 2nd- or 3rd-rate timbo beat, and i think doesn't measure up to a lot of the rest of the album. it feels predictable in a way that most of kala doesn't.
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 1 October 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
"i have a real copy and all the production sounds kinda thin and digital to me."
That's funny cuz I was shocked when I first heard the CD how much thicker, lusher and louder it sounded to me than the mp3s.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 1 October 2009 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
wait, it's all coming back to me and i think those might still be the original mp3s on my ipod, and i never bought a copy. oops.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 1 October 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
what a difference a good mastering job makes, i'm guessing.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 1 October 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't think arular is thin, i just think it's not quite as sonically varied.
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 1 October 2009 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link