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just think this guy deserves his own thread.

I think Buy U A Drank is a masterpiece (almost).

kevin mulligan, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link

it's so weird to me that this dude was able to come along 10 years after "Believe" and build an entire career out of autotune

bernard snowy, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link

his use of autotune is so flagrant though, he totally owns it

kevin mulligan, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Not big on Buy U A Drank, but that 2-Step tune is pretty good. Like the drum n' bassy sub-bass drop.

Belisarius, Thursday, 10 May 2007 02:55 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i dig that 2-step track too! t-pain is pretty awesome.

the table is the table, Thursday, 10 May 2007 02:58 (fifteen years ago) link

his use of autotune is so flagrant though, he totally owns it

-- kevin mulligan, Wednesday, May 9, 2007 5:01 PM (4 hours ago)

well yeah, exactly. if anyone else came along and tried to use that effect on a track, people would be like "who's this T-Pain wannabe?" which is weird to me, because that sound has been a punchline for like a decade now!

bernard snowy, Thursday, 10 May 2007 02:58 (fifteen years ago) link

they call him teddy penderass

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 10 May 2007 04:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Even though everyone else seems to complain about his guest spot on "I'm a Flirt," I love it...his phrasing is brilliant in that song.

Tape Store, Thursday, 10 May 2007 04:38 (fifteen years ago) link

i agree about i'm a flirt

what did people think of that i'm in love with a stripper song (i'm sure he had a wacky spelling)? i totally hated it when it came out but haven't heard it since

kevin mulligan, Thursday, 10 May 2007 04:51 (fifteen years ago) link

When has anyone complained about his verse on "Like A Flirt"? As far as I'm concerned, it's the best part of the song. "When I roll up to the club, all the shorties be like, 'DAAAAMN, 28s!'"

The Reverend, Thursday, 10 May 2007 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link

weird al did a t-pain parody the other night

strongohulkington, Thursday, 10 May 2007 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link

it was better than any t-pain song

strongohulkington, Thursday, 10 May 2007 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

"Buy U A Drank" is terrible, the weak harmonies and barely there beat and a chorus that borrows from at least 3 different hits from the past year ("Money In The Bank," "Snap Ya Fingers" and "Zoom").

And yet, somehow I love almost everything else he's done lately, on "I'm A Flirt" and "Outta My System" and the "Pop, Lock & Drop It" remix where he finally goes into all-out evil robot mode.

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 10 May 2007 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

also yeah everything good about the "I'm A Flirt" remix is in T-Pain's verse and R.'s last verse. T.I. is really the out-of-place deadweight on there.

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 10 May 2007 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

this new plies song with t-pain on the chorus is THE jam of the summer.

Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 24 June 2007 01:08 (fifteen years ago) link

"buy u a drank" has been in my head all day. the line "you can do it all buy yourself" reminds me of a children's diaper commercial.

the "i'm in love with a stripper" song is okay. it's more of the same you'd expect from t-pain, with mike jones shouting his verses. also, t-pain refers to himself, if i'm not mistaken, as "teddy pendherassdown" in this song.

miryam, Sunday, 24 June 2007 01:17 (fifteen years ago) link

that would be "teddy penderzdoun" and it's one of his alter egos, i guess.
there is a song on the new album that is "t-pain ft. teddy pain and teddy penderazdoun," which is just t-pain doing the whole song in various character, if there is a difference between the three.

Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 24 June 2007 01:26 (fifteen years ago) link

When has anyone complained about his verse on "Like A Flirt"?

e.g. some Jukebox reviews

Tape Store, Sunday, 24 June 2007 02:18 (fifteen years ago) link

re: "I'm A Flirt," is when t-pain goes "i'm feelin yo body and i'm hoping you feel the saaaaaaaame."

also, tape store, where are you from in missouri?

Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 24 June 2007 02:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Columbia

Tape Store, Sunday, 24 June 2007 02:33 (fifteen years ago) link

you go to mizzou?
i saw you put that shirelle c. limes song on some singles list in another thread which caught my eye.
amazing pop song.

Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 24 June 2007 02:37 (fifteen years ago) link

no...Rock Bridge (high school). How'd you come across the Shirrelle track? It really is amazing; her live show is great, too.

Tape Store, Sunday, 24 June 2007 03:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i was going to write a story about her for MOVE Magazine (ended up not doing it) so I listened to her EP which was pretty good, definitely as far as Columbia music goes.
the foundry at eastside a few months ago was easily the best show i've seen here by a local band. just really awesome, heavy and more rockier stuff than i expected from them.

Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 24 June 2007 03:11 (fifteen years ago) link

When has anyone complained about his verse on "Like A Flirt"?

e.g. some Jukebox reviews

I don't know about Bieritz, (who's blurb is hilarious), but my bit about T-Pain certainly isn't a complaint; I was pointing out my favorite line in the song! Inskeep's the only one who seems negative about T-Pain's contributions to the song and he gave the song a ten, so grain of salt, etc.

The Reverend, Sunday, 24 June 2007 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess what I was trying to say is that the "Teddy Penderass" line is where the suspension of disbelief gets broken, but as far as I'm concerned, that's a great thing to do.

The Reverend, Sunday, 24 June 2007 03:13 (fifteen years ago) link

..."whose blurb"....

The Reverend, Sunday, 24 June 2007 03:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not a huge Foundry fan (I like the obvious singles and the first ep), but they're pretty good live.

My favorite local act is Jerusalem and the Starbaskets, with Shirrelle coming in as a close second. Then again, I'm leaving out Castro Catastrophe--easily Columbia's best band.

re: T-Pain--I thought Bieritz's blurb was easily the most negative...you're right, though, it's very funny.

Tape Store, Sunday, 24 June 2007 03:30 (fifteen years ago) link

(I mean, basically, he (right?) calls Kelly and T.I. sex fiends and then labels T. Pain a stupid poser)

Tape Store, Sunday, 24 June 2007 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link

"Idiot savant for chintzy r&b" strikes me as distinctively compliment-like, or at least I would use it as such. I think what he was trying to say is that T-Pain isn't as convincingly sexy as R. or T.I.

The Reverend, Sunday, 24 June 2007 03:46 (fifteen years ago) link

But that's not necessarily a bad thing.

And he didn't call T.I. a sex fiend, merely "suave". But he doesn't have R. Kelly's reputation, which is a good thing. I certainly wouldn't want R. Kelly's reputation, that's for sure.

The Reverend, Sunday, 24 June 2007 03:49 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm going to stop arguing about other people's semantics right now.

The Reverend, Sunday, 24 June 2007 03:49 (fifteen years ago) link

On first look, that's definitely seems like a compliment, but when I read the piece again, it seems like it's just questioning his validity as a guest-spot go-to-guy...The two most negative parts for me are the "but has T-Pain really earned this?" line and the complaint about his ever-present autotune.

Tape Store, Sunday, 24 June 2007 03:53 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't get why people have problem with the autotune.
what's the difference between animal collective or battles using vocal effects and t-pain using a vocal effect? is the fact that he's using it to get in tune that much of a bigger deal? they are both a mean to get to an end the way i look at it.

Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 24 June 2007 04:03 (fifteen years ago) link

The first time I saw the video for "Buy You A Drank" I asked my friend "who is this?" but before he could reply T-Pain answered "I'm T-pain."

And T-Pain's the best part of "I'm a flirt." And that new song about him falling in love with the bartender is pretty good. But none of it really leaves me wanting more.

ablaeser, Sunday, 24 June 2007 04:04 (fifteen years ago) link

TS: I know I said I was done with this, but you pulled me back in, damn you. The "but has T-Pain really earned this?" bit strikes me as questioning not T's validity as a guest-spot go-to guy, but his validity as a sex symbol, which R. & T.I. both had firmly established, but T (mind you this is before we heard "Buy U a Drink" or "Bartender") seemed kind of this dorky guy who falls in love with strippers, and, in his own words, looks like the neighborhood weed man. I was kind of getting at the same thing with my "no one calls you that" line. The remarks about the autotune strike me more as humorous commentary than as complaints. He doesn't necessarily say electronic glissandos are bad.

Jordan: I agree, but I don't understand why many people assume he's using the autotune for the purposes of pitch correction. It seems patently obvious to me that he uses it for a deliberately unnaturalistic effect.

The Reverend, Sunday, 24 June 2007 04:17 (fifteen years ago) link

ablaeser: I'm kind of at the same spot regarding T-Pain. I like a lot of what I hear, but not so much that I want to invest myself in him.

The Reverend, Sunday, 24 June 2007 04:19 (fifteen years ago) link

reverend: i think in a lot of t-pain songs there become points (maybe a note or two or three) where he becomes punishingly in tune (the line in "i'm a flirt" that i brought up earlier is a example of this), and i'm not sure he could actually do that if he wanted to.
which isn't to say that he isn't using autotune to be unnatural— he obviously is— just that that process also brings him to being in tune at points as well.

Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 24 June 2007 04:36 (fifteen years ago) link

also, CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT "SHAWTY"? THIS SONG IS OWNING MY LIFE RIGHT NOW.

Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 24 June 2007 04:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I like it when T-Pain says "shawty" in "Flirt." It's one of the best moments in the song for me...He stops playing dominant flirter and instead becomes Mr. Sweet 'n' Seductive...Instead of "Hey Shawty! Get in my bed!", it's "Hey Shawty? Can I talk to you? If you don't mind me saying so, you look mighty stunning tonight."

And Rev, maybe Bieritz will weigh in?

Tape Store, Sunday, 24 June 2007 04:48 (fifteen years ago) link

"Hey Shawty? Can I talk to you? If you don't mind me saying so, you look mighty stunning tonight."

not only that, but then he goes, "i'm feelin' yo body and i'm hopin' you feel the same," which is by miles the most human and relatable sentiment in that whole song.

i'm still astounded by people who don't recognize that t-pains humanity is the most valuable part of the song (in a beguiling way for him, even) when compared to t.i.'s greasiness ("i'm tryna catch a glance up her skirt") and kelly's (typical) pompousness in

Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 24 June 2007 04:58 (fifteen years ago) link

btw Jordan, not to change subjects, but is Mizzou Journalism worth it?

Tape Store, Sunday, 24 June 2007 05:08 (fifteen years ago) link

daaaaaaaaaaamn 28's!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 24 June 2007 05:34 (fifteen years ago) link

my view on mizzou journalism (after one year completed) is this:

the classes themselves— history of journalism, principles of journalism, cross-culutural journalism (aka are you racist?)— are based basically on common sense and aren't that valuable or informative (generally), but the name cache that mizzou carries in the journalism world is pretty invaluable. not to mention the connections available (village voice reps come to the school every year for internship purposes, etc. and i know plenty of people with internships and jobs at usa today or with the AP, etc.).

and i think if you really want to write as a career, the competitiveness here is probably unmatched around college campuses in the sense that, there are so many really good and ambitious writers here that you cant help but step your game up, so to speak.

Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 24 June 2007 05:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks for sharing...I don't think I'm going to go to the J-School (but I change my mind all the time).

My goal is to become a semi-successful director, so I don't plan on working as a full-time writer...I just want freelance work, and I'm already doing that (though I'm always worried that my age is helping me get these jobs). But Mizzou would be free, and everywhere else is not :(

Tape Store, Sunday, 24 June 2007 05:47 (fifteen years ago) link

the thing about writing as a profession (obviously) is that you don't need a j-school degree to do it (the same could be same for directing, i guess), plus if you came here and decided you want to go to the j-school you could always apply after your freshman or sophomore year or whatever.

Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 24 June 2007 05:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I like it when T-Pain says "shawty" in "Flirt." It's one of the best moments in the song for me...He stops playing dominant flirter and instead becomes Mr. Sweet 'n' Seductive...Instead of "Hey Shawty! Get in my bed!", it's "Hey Shawty? Can I talk to you? If you don't mind me saying so, you look mighty stunning tonight."

Definitely. I like that his POV in his songs doesn't necessarily take his playaness for granted.

And Rev, maybe Bieritz will weigh in?

Does he post here? I've never noticed him doing so.

The Reverend, Sunday, 24 June 2007 10:39 (fifteen years ago) link

there's a lot of really interesting stuff happening on this album.
besides t-pain's voice obviously, stuff like the percussion on "time machine" seems really forward-thinking for a modern hip-hop/r&b record to me almost in like a fiery furnaces or similar kitschy (not in a bad way) indieish pop way to me. i also love it on "shottas" when they run kardinal offishal and cham's voices through the auto-(un)tune.

is t-pain the animal collective of r&b?

Jordan Sargent, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 08:45 (fifteen years ago) link

also i love that they sequenced "buy u a drank" in the 3rd quarter of the album rather than having it be the standard second song or whatever. by the time it comes around it functions almost as a victory lap, like you've just listened to over half a really enjoyable t-pain album and then oh shit it's the most successful and eponymous pop song of the year... gone in a blink if you aren't paying attention.
that this album can do that to "buy u a drank" is a pretty great testament to it's surprisng enjoyability i think.

Jordan Sargent, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 08:51 (fifteen years ago) link

and by eponymous i of course mean inescapable but i can't think of the word that is kind of like eponymous.

Jordan Sargent, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 08:54 (fifteen years ago) link

keyboard player kills it

festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 19:21 (eight years ago) link

the michael mcdonald/regulators interpolation

festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 19:25 (eight years ago) link

oh very much so

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 19:34 (eight years ago) link

ahhhhh "Up Down"

some dude, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 19:38 (eight years ago) link

i like how Musiq Soulchild just embarrassed himself stepping into a T-Pain type lane and then T-Pain goes ahead and bodies Musiq's lane

some dude, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 19:40 (eight years ago) link

tears of joy

out here like a flopson (tpp), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 19:42 (eight years ago) link

This is really glorious. Such an earned victory for an artist who really deserves one.

Evan R, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 19:47 (eight years ago) link

his final rendition of the "up down" chorus on this is so dope

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:00 (eight years ago) link

cool thing is you can really hear the line between his "real" voice and his autotune voice in this

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:07 (eight years ago) link

tears of joy

― out here like a flopson (tpp), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 19:42

etc, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 22:36 (eight years ago) link

Haha damnit just came to this thread to post that

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:06 (eight years ago) link

Was hoping when I saw this that it would include Chopped and Screwed

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:08 (eight years ago) link

this is so awesome <3 that dude

I Love Makonnen: New Answers (The Reverend), Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:12 (eight years ago) link

T-pain is wearing my glasses >_<

, Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:14 (eight years ago) link

Actually I switched. But he look good

, Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:14 (eight years ago) link

Yo nice glasses btw liked those

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:18 (eight years ago) link

A whole concert of this would be great. They could market it as "T-Pain: The Grill Comes Off" or something like that

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:20 (eight years ago) link

Ty ty xp

, Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:28 (eight years ago) link

this really is very special

no but seriously im not a dick like that (Spottie), Friday, 31 October 2014 17:29 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

dunno about the video but i like the song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaIwNbN4AVA

MAYBE HE'S NOT THE BEST THIGH SLAPPER IN THE WORLD (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 28 December 2014 20:26 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

anyone else into this mixtape

just sayin, Monday, 30 March 2015 22:24 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I've been jamming it

, Monday, 30 March 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link

beckyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

just sayin, Monday, 30 March 2015 22:51 (eight years ago) link

ysi?

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 14:04 (eight years ago) link

Datpiff it

, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link

lol at the game of thrones reference

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 14:29 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

"Classic Man"'s nice.

etc, Friday, 31 July 2015 15:26 (seven years ago) link

not him

don't really like it anyway

dyl, Friday, 31 July 2015 15:29 (seven years ago) link

theres a tpain remix

just sayin, Friday, 31 July 2015 21:13 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...
one year passes...
two months pass...

listening to the new album. feels weirdly dated.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 17 November 2017 19:11 (five years ago) link

Yeah I got the same vibe.

Definitely doesn't lack for effort, but it's a mess. The loud, busy, shouty stuff just doesn't flatter him at all, really wish he'd return to smooth finger-snap jams again.

Evan R, Friday, 17 November 2017 21:37 (five years ago) link

there's a song called "pussy on the phone" in which he asks you to "put your pussy on the phone"

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 17 November 2017 21:58 (five years ago) link

lol yeah his songwriting isn't as sharp as it used to be

Evan R, Friday, 17 November 2017 21:59 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

When rapper T-Pain purchases Wrigley's Doublemint, Juicy Fruit, or Big Red chewing gum, I bet you he chooses a Plen-T-Pak.

del griffith, Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:51 (four years ago) link

five months pass...

Maybe this was discussed in another thread but he was on that Masked Singer show, and the dude can SING! He seemed so excited to show that he could sing without Autotune.

DJI, Monday, 4 March 2019 22:05 (four years ago) link

he's always been able to sing!

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:09 (four years ago) link

Apparently! :)

DJI, Monday, 4 March 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link

seen him live twice; he's a killer concert artist.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link

which is talked about upthread but worth posting again obv

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Q3ojqDsRg
lol

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 10 November 2019 16:42 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

if you ever wanted to hear him do a (pretty faithful) cover of "war pigs," now's your chance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4nMjyT4epA

avatár the way of watár (voodoo chili), Friday, 17 March 2023 20:49 (two weeks ago) link

a fine performance, but that is one of the worst kick drum sounds i've ever heard

c u (crüt), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:55 (one week ago) link

the sound is truly awful lol

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:57 (one week ago) link

yeah and the gospel-y organs that come in are a fine idea but suffer a bit in the execution

deadmauZedong (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:12 (one week ago) link

T Pain himself sounds good, but the production is garbage. i can't believe people are flipping out over this, i guess those few that hadn't already realized Pain was kinda great maybe?

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:17 (one week ago) link

i just think he sounds great. but I did already know he was great, and could sing with or without auto-tune.

Dr Hook cover sounds more like his traditional sound

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 20:59 (one week ago) link


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