Simian Mobile Disco - Attack Decay Sustain Release

i mean, i'm certain (i'd like to see some hard proof already, fuck this kaffeklatsch shit) more people listen (and dance) to SMD/Justice/... than minimal or whatever irrelevant coccoon-like form dance gatekeepers like to retreat to.

Maybe where you live.

well i dunno jim, where do you live?

i can see how you might think no one cared about minimal if you only went to indie nights in crappy dives or some shit

Well minimal isn't hugely popular where I live but even so the biggest minimal night is still far bigger than the biggest indie-dance night (Villalobos plays bigger venues than Ed Banger).

But you know, some things are more popular in some places than they are in others and you'd have to be a fool to state "no-one dances to this shit anyway" about any kind of music without some in-depth knowledge of global nightlife.

i know right? even in london, which is where smd and a lot of people in this scene are based...they play fabric and so on occasionally, but villalobos, allien, ananda, mayer et al are the bigger nights. and a sjim says, this isn't even taking into account global minimal popularity!

don't see the connection...

tsk, i thought we'd established that measuring a scene's popularity by club attendance/queue length was as silly as measuring it by record sales.

I hoped we'd established that a scene's popularity is moot in discussing the merits of said scene but maybe I'm too much of an optimist.

i wuz gonna say, like

bonus disc tracklisting:

1. I Got This Down (Instrumental Version) 4:10
2. It's The Beat (Dub for Annie Mac) 6:36
3. Hustler (Club Version) 6:36
4. I Believe (SMD Space Dub) 6:10
5. Hot Dub 6:46
6. Wooden (Uncut)

i've not heard it. i've not heard the album, either, though due to this thread i'm considering it.

finally listened: this is really rather good, esp. 'Scott' which is what Orbital should've sounded more like on their last album or even better what a British MC should be burbling over on their own album.

and it really didn't sound particularly over-compressed on my earphones - no more than, say, 'Machine Says Yes' which it reminds me of a fair bit.

whoa 'i believe' is a great song

"it's the beat" on through "hotdog" is especially murderous.

no fucking mercury nomination who the fuck's responsible?

all the evidence points to this being a must-buy DESPITE my knights of cydonia-inspired reservations so graphically delineated above.

you can listen to extracts on bleep.com

louis maybe you could tell us again about your reaction to the knights of cydonia remix

"what a British MC should be burbling over on their own album."

not the sound of their blood running from their freshly guillotined head?

r.i.p. lex.

its funny how snobbery transcends all genres

i like this record but people dance really aggro to this shit in the club and i stopped going to hardcore shows when i graduated high school

Hardcore is the new indie-dance. I played Sonz of a Loop da Loop Era - "Far Out" and the kids went NUTS.

This is a good thing.

the very harsh Stylus review really brings this album's score right down on Metacritic

I love how disingenuously wrong the Lex is up there, considering when we went to see Mayer and Ananda at Fabric we walked straight in, whereas Friday nights playing this sort of stuff have them queuing round the block.

(And to be honest what other way is there of judging the popularity of a scene other than gig/club attendance? I thought that was what a scene WAS.)

'Wooden' sounds like a condensed version of something Mayer or Ananda would play - y/n?

that's one of the tracks that most needs to be double the length really

Not really, no. It borrows some of the same melodic flourishes but sonically - texturally and dynamically - it's totally different. I mean, it IS totally compressed in a way that doesn't really appreciate the sense of space you get on a big soundsystem.

It's sort of the sonic equivalent of brightly-coloured cheap bits of plastic - and I'm not necessarily meaning that as a criticism because I'm pretty sure that was the effect they were going for. Cheap bits of plastic can be fun too and they're rarely intimidating.

I dunno if I just have poor attention span but I liked all the first half of this album and none of the 2nd half!

i agree in that 'Wooden' probably sounds worst in terms of compression and the intentional noise/hiss is a bit puzzling because it would sound a lot better if everything was a bit cleaner and purer. but it sounds to me a bit busier or i guess maximal than what i've heard of Ananda, not just because of it's shortness. i have the 'uncut' version on the bonus disc of remixes that came with the album at least.

spencer did you go see them @ the echo last night? i was there and a fight broke out next to me and there was no room to like dance and i had to spend the whole time basically throwing elbows to prevent dudes from crushing my 5'4" friend. i actually thought their set was terrific--better than the record--but the vibe totally threw me off. maybe i just wasnt in the mood for insane aggressive dancing tho.

"far out" is all kinds of classic tho, its hard NOT to go crazy when that gets thrown on

probably the bad vibe is partly my fault, i should have stayed to the back where there was room to do dances that werent just jumping up and down rather than getting up to the front with the really drunk violent types

the light show was great too

and your selectors for fabriclive 41 are...

01 Tomita - The Firebird – Infernal Dance Of King Kastechi [Clean Version] – SonyBMG
02 Sisters Of Transistors – The Don – This Is Music
03 Simian Mobile Disco – Simple - Wichita
04 Hercules And Love Affair – Blind [Serge Santiago Version] – EMI
05 Smith N Hack – Space Warrior – Errorsmith and Soundhack
06 Discodeine – Joystick – Dirty
07 Shit Robot – Chasm – DFA
08 Perc & Fractal – Up Tool – Kompakt
09 Metro Area – Miura – Environ
10 Worthy – Crack EI – Leftroom
11 Moon Dog – Suite Equestria – Roof
12 Fine Cut Bodies – Huncut Hacuka – Chi Recordings
13 Bentobox vs Chordian – Aemono - Imprimé
14 Jelo & DeadMau5 – The Reward Is Cheese – Rising Trax
15 Simian Mobile Disco - Sleep Deprivation [Simon Baker Remix] – Wichita
16 Popof – The Chomper [LSD Version]– Turbo Recordings
17 Raymond Scott – Cindy Electronium – Basta
18 Paul Woolford Presents Bobby Peru – Erotic Discourse – 2020 Vision
19 Moebius Plank Neumeier – Pitch Control – Sky Records
20 Plastikman – Spastik – Mute
21 Green Velvet – Flash – Relief Records
22 The Walker Brothers – Nite Flights [Album Version] – SonyBMG

they played spastik and flash in their set at primavera which i thought was gonna be all live but was 70% DJing bah

yup. dull as can be. i drifted over to Surkin which was sooooo much better but with a fraction of the crowd.

does surkin even have an album out? i mean its not like he wont get the same full court press-press when he does, b/w when i saw kevin saunderson he dropped 'white knights two'

anyway this SMD album is so great

Max is OTM about them being so much better live than on record.

smd still sucks, but there's great remixes of their tracks up on the shit robot and invisible conga people myspaces.

I like that 'System' track from the 'Live In Japan' release. is the Clock EP any good?

ADSR is alright, but the Sample And Hold ADSR remix album is better. The Joakim remix of Hustler and the Chrome Hoof remix of Clock are the best things they've released.

I was a bit surprised by just how hostile the Pitchfork review of S&H was... judged as a compilation album entirely on its own merits, it's not great, but it's hardly terrible, and well above the standards of most of these remix comps. And the Chrome Hoof mix really is great.

hangover/apology for the good review they gave the album?

SMD - The Audacity of Huge...

Audaciously godawful.

Yes. There's one or two alright ones on the new album (track 5 I think?), but overall very disappointing.

am expecting album to suck even tho i really liked the first one

The live show last night surprised me by actually being, like, completely awesome. Either they are just a million times better live than on record (admittedly a very strong possibility) or the album will actually be really good. Single still weak though.