Best Judas Priest Album

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Poll Results

Sad Wings Of Destiny 10
Rocka Rolla 7
British Steel 6
Screaming For Vengeance 3
Painkiller 2
Turbo 2
I like metal but never liked a single thing by Judas Priest2
Sin After Sin 2
Point Of Entry 1
Hell Bent For Leather 1
Defenders Of The Faith 1
Stained Class 0
Ram It Down 0
Jugulator 0
Demolition 0
Angel of Retribution 0

NYCNative, Monday, 30 April 2007 10:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I predict that Painkiller will get a lot of love here and that Turbo will get some votes (even a few un-ironic ones) however Sad Wings Of Destiny is one of my all-time favorite albums so that's an obvious choice.

NYCNative, Monday, 30 April 2007 10:16 (thirteen years ago) link

SWOD is such a great record from start to finish.

moley, Monday, 30 April 2007 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I have to admit I haven't heard most of them, but I cannot imagine any of them possibly being better than "British Steel", with "United" and all.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 30 April 2007 11:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah - I voted for 'Sad Wings of Destiny' just for the fact that I play it more and enjoy the birth of modern metal via that album. But 'Screaming for Vengeance' and 'Painkiller' are soooo close.

BlackIronPrison, Monday, 30 April 2007 11:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Sin After Sin.

xhuxk, Monday, 30 April 2007 12:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll second that Sin After Sin pick.

Though I must admit to loving the first few albums about equally (even Rocka Rolla) because I was introduced to Priest by a cousin who gave me a copy of the Hero, Hero comp when I was eight. The winter of 80/81 had me rocking out to "Tyrant" and my mom singing along to their Joan Baez cover. Good times.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link

voted for British Steel, but Hell Bent comes very close…anybody else a fan of "Killing Machine?" an incrediblly awesome, ZZ-Top-ish funky tune.

Veronica Moser, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Too bad live LPs are disallowed as always - Unleashed In The East is one of my favourite live albums ever, plus its superior song selection makes it my favourite album by a band that generally underwhelms me. (I've only heard/owned 7-8 Priest albums, admittedly.) And my second choice would be that Hero, Hero comp. Hmm.

Sad Wings Of Destiny it is, largely for "Victim Of Changes" (which is actually kinda genuinely moving.)

Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

"Breakin the Law" by Harry Batt!

Mark G, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Another vote for Sad Wings here. They weren't a very consistent albums band really. My favourite Priest release is the DVD with all the promos on it.

Matt #2, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Hell Bent For Leather.

JN$OT, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

C'mon someone vote for 'Angel of Retribution'!

BlackIronPrison, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link

i voted for defenders just cuz it was the first one i ever had...

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 30 April 2007 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Painkiller. Just fucking rips from start to finish. Even the filler tracks rock harder than a lot of bands' best songs. I'd list which songs I liked, but I'd end up listing the whole album. I do have to say that "Battle Hymn/One Shot at Glory" does not get the love that it deserves.

Actually did consider voting for Turbo. "Turbo Lover" and "Out in the Cold" always send shivers down my spine. Unfortunately, the forced "we like to party" songs put a damper on the whole thing.

Jeff Treppel, Monday, 30 April 2007 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha! I knew you would vote for Painkiller, Jeff!

As for Angel Of Retribution, I did like that album more than I thought I would when it came out but haven't listened since. I still think it will hold up better than the Dickinson-reunion Maiden discs.

NYCNative, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Am I that predictable? Dammit. Should have voted for Turbo. But I couldn't. I actually love Painkiller so much that I've used images and song titles from it in comic book and movie pitches that I've written.

Angel of Retribution was pretty good up until the fucking Loch Ness track. That thing killed it dead. But there are some good tracks on the record, just nothing spectacular. The first Halford solo album was way better. As were the first two Dickinson-reunion Maiden discs.

Jeff Treppel, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyway, back to Turbo, which is an album that I don't think is discussed enough. It's probably the Judas Priest album that I listen to the second-most (although besides Painkiller, I find myself listening to Metal Works the most, since that's an extremely well sequenced anthology). I absolutely love the chili, heavily-processed synthesizer sound. I feel like if they had made it an album about the de-humanizing effects of technology with that same production, it would have been fantastic (which "Turbo Lover" and "Out in the Cold" approach). The biggest problem is the lyrical content, as I mention above, since they were trying to write "party anthems." Unfortunately, they were never very good at party anthems, and the frigid production of Turbo didn't really work with those tunes. Really a missed opportunity. I would have liked to have seen more serious metal bands try the synth thing in the 80s, like with Rage for Order and Somewhere in Time (also both from 1986, and both more successful than Turbo, artistically at least).

Jeff Treppel, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Jeff, I knew you'd go with Painkiller because you're far younger than I am... :) At least that's the impression I get (I'm 38).

You need to get Sad Wings and put on your headphones and listen all the way through. Then remember that they made this record in 1976! It tries to capture the majesty of Queen but the greatness comes in not because of that but how it also anticipates the classic feel that is on many of the older NWOBHM discs (inspired that whole movement, actually) with a smattering of Sabbath (because you had to have Sabbath) and a tinge of the boogie of Rocka Rolla held over for good measure. It was also the only Priest disc to feature piano (and quite well). I want "Epitaph" played at my funeral and I want "Victim Of Changes" to be played loudly on almost every long car trip and I want "The Ripper" to always go left-right through my head like the first time I heard it on the aforementioned headphones.

As a friend put it, "man, they weren't making a metal record. They didn't know WHAT they were making. But it's fucking amazing."

So yeah, I kinda like this disc.

NYCNative, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I have Sad Wings! Judas Priest are one of my very favorite bands. I own almost everything they ever put out. And I like Sad Wings, don't get me wrong. I listen to it fairly regularly. But Painkiller blew me away when I first listened to it. Driving home from high school through the back roads of Princeton, New Jersey at night and hearing "Nightcrawler" creep its way onto my speakers is one of the most indelible musical experiences of my life. And it's never lost its punch in the seven or eight years since then (which should give you an idea of my age). Still, it isn't so much an age thing as it is that Painkiller is their most cinematic record, which is a quality most of my favorite records have in common.

Jeff Treppel, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Not sure I've ever given Sad Wings the headphone listen, though. I'll have to do that.

Jeff Treppel, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link

It's their "We toured with Pantera and saw the future" record if you ask me. Also is was John Travis' first disc behind the kit and his style propelled the band as well, a style leared toiling as Racer X's drummer. Which isn't to say I don't like it - I do, very much, in fact for those very reasons.

NYCNative, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link

(Scott Travis, not John)

Could be. I'm not aware of who they toured with at the time. But hey, they saw the future better than a lot of the other classic bands at that time (Ozzy Osbourne, Motorhead, and Iron Maiden, off the top of my head, although that isn't to say that some of those didn't put out respectable albums around then). Way better than anything they had done for about a decade, and it would have been interesting to see where they went from there had it not been for Halford's departure. The energy on it gets me out of my seat whenever I put it on. Plus, as pointed out above, Priest albums tended to be somewhat spotty, but Painkiller was consistently great all the way through.

(Although now I'm trying to figure out when exactly I got that record. It was either junior or senior year of high school, so yeah, seven or eight years)

Jeff Treppel, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, Scott Travis! John Travis was a producer/engineer I knew back in the day... Doh!

NYCNative, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Painkiller is their other record that's tops from start to finish. Sin After Sin is maybe their most underrated.

moley, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 11:11 (thirteen years ago) link

And I feel duty bound to stick my hand up for Angel of Retribution, not as their best, but as a pretty damn good record - especially Deal eith the Devil. It not only rocks, it has a wonderfully comic lyric conceit - 'How did we get to be so rocking? We made a deal with the devil!' - that's clever/dumb in the best possible way. And I love Lochness. I could listen to a whole album of that stuff. Big, dark, stoopid songs that sound like they could be the Russian national anthem. British Steel is the one Halford himself nominates as their best. It's maybe their most original and rocking album, and really benefits from the unfussy drumming and production. Unlike Geir, a gentleman with whom I agree alarming often, I don't like 'United' from that album. It tries too hard to be a terrace anthem. It's too self-consciously out to be a hit single. It mars the album a little for me.

moley, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 11:17 (thirteen years ago) link

British Steel every time.

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 12:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm actually surprised at the lack of love for Screaming for Vengeance here. Come on, people! "Hellion/Electric Eye?" "Screaming for Vengeance?" "You've Got Another Thing Coming?" It's a classic! I mean, I didn't vote for it, but I explain in thorough detail above why not.

Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

That was their Top 40 phase...

NYCNative, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link

It was the first JP album I had, and I loved it - still do. Many people say it's their best - I think it starts with a bang, for sure. Maybe it tails off a little towards the end. The production is a little sibilant and trebly, but you get used to that.

moley, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link

it's Point Of Entry, folks...for two reasons: "Heading Out To The Highway", and "Turning Circles"...both perfectly capture the exhiliration/monotony of high-speed cruising...

henry s, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I was just listening to Point of Entry today in the car. "Desert Plains" is probably my favorite on there. Another one of those epic tracks that sent shivers down my spine. "Heading out to the Highway" is classic, of course.

Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:15 (thirteen years ago) link

It's interesting to me that Point Of Entry was viewed at the time as a bit of an experimental release and a failure at that. Of course years later Turbo would also get branded the same way...

NYCNative, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyone going to defend the Ripper albums?

Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

not me!

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

actually my fav might actually be "Unleashed in the East"

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Jugulator has a couple good songs ("Jugulator" and "Bullet Train"), but Demolition is completely worthless. The thing about Ripper is that he has a good voice, but absolutely no personality to go with it.

Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't know, like i dig on sabbath w/dio because it was sort of a different animal...i can dig the dianno era and the dickenson eras of maiden too, but for me there's something w/priest that i can't separate from halford. he just fits them so perfectly.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

What about the Blaze years, Matt?

Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Well there's a big surprise in there - Rocka Rolla, disowned by the band themselves, in at #2 - ahead of British Steel. Rocka Rolla is a great bluesy rock album, very much of its time.

moley, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Screaming for Vengeance didn't get nearly enough love here, top 40 phase or whatever the jams on it are so fucking solid

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

can't believe 0 votes for stained class, baffled by the rocka rolla/british steel love, but glad that SWOD is rightly recognized as their best album

special shout-out to "sinner" from sin after sin - that superstoned middle interlude is one of my fav musical moments of all time

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

My favourite will always be Defenders of the Faith. Personally I've always thought Vengeance is a bit overrated, the title track is mediocre and a couple others just make me cringe ("Devil's Child", for one)...I prefer the dense, cold sound of Defenders.

(Stained Class and Hell Bent For Leather aren't far behind)

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

oh man the sfv title track was kicking my ass today. those guitars!

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

0 votes for stained class is insane!

turbo tied with painkiller is also pretty weird.

as far as top 40 priest goes, I think I prefer point of entry to screaming for vengeance. but both are cool.

original bgm, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

we follow the dreamer

the lonesome crowded west (jdchurchill), Friday, 10 June 2011 13:44 (nine years ago) link

British Steel way too high in this original poll. Good album,but even the high points are way watered down compared to their glory days. I'd take Sin after Sin, Stained Class, Sad Wings, even Defenders and Screaming over it.

my downeaster ilxor (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 June 2011 21:20 (nine years ago) link

just this week i have been listening to sad wings and everytime i think to myself holy shit dude this is like the best album

the lonesome crowded west (jdchurchill), Friday, 10 June 2011 23:56 (nine years ago) link

the only downside to it is I think Rob's vocal on Victim of Changes pales in comparison to how he did it on the live album.

my downeaster ilxor (Neanderthal), Saturday, 11 June 2011 03:36 (nine years ago) link

"Tyrant", though.......ohhhhhhhhhh man.

my downeaster ilxor (Neanderthal), Saturday, 11 June 2011 03:36 (nine years ago) link

90 minute Victim of Changes!

Wet Pelican would provide the soundtrack (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 5 May 2017 05:00 (three years ago) link

Take that, Grateful Dead!

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 5 May 2017 07:11 (three years ago) link

Is that real? Do the audience go along with it?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 5 May 2017 11:47 (three years ago) link

Just spent a minute or so figuring out how a 90 minute Victim of Changes might pan out, basically it'd be the greatest piece of music ever recorded if the arrangement was done right

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Friday, 5 May 2017 11:52 (three years ago) link

The audience is advised early on to take another look around, they're not goin' anywhere.

jmm, Friday, 5 May 2017 12:00 (three years ago) link

haha ok that was supposed to be 9 minute

tales from pyrographic oceans

salthigh, Friday, 5 May 2017 16:33 (three years ago) link

yeah I was like I don't think even Halford would be able to hang for the whole 90 minutes of that lol
If KK was still in the band he would have been up for it tho I reckon

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 May 2017 16:37 (three years ago) link

can we make 90 minute Victim of Changes happen ffs

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Sunday, 14 May 2017 02:40 (three years ago) link

When I started this poll I remember thinking that the results were in line with ILM at the time. It's interesting that the site has changed that new people here think it was strange. As much as a new poll might be interesting, a better poll would be to pick the band's second best album, because every incarnation of ILM will pick Sad Wings for sure.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 14 May 2017 04:46 (three years ago) link

rocka rolla at 2 is still mystifying to me

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 14 May 2017 12:32 (three years ago) link

I can't remember a thing about it

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Sunday, 14 May 2017 13:57 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Listening to Point of Entry for the first time in quite a few years, the record sounds a whole lot like Judas Priest trying to write AC/DC songs. Some of these tunes would fit fine on something like Flick of the Switch with the reverb.

earlnash, Friday, 25 May 2018 23:44 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

So... Turbo. First few spins I couldn't really be arsed with it but it's a lot better than I was expecting and even some of the extremely cliched songs are pretty good.

"Turbo Lover" is the only track I like completely.

The early verses in "Locked In" that end with "you got the key, the key to my heart, go ahead and use it" are some of my favorite Priest moments ever but the chorus and much of the rest of the song feel like they just weren't up to delivering what should have been one of their best songs.

"Private Property" is pretty good, could have been an anti-sexual harassment anthem if it didn't have a few lines of incredible bragging! Not that I think he should have changed it.

"Parental Guidance" and "Rock You All Around The World" are two that seemed the most cringey and cliched but they're actually quite fun and I like it how Halford is acting like an ambassador for heavy music.

"Out In The Cold" is pretty good but after that I kind of lose interest. Until... bonus track "All Fired Up" is better than anything on the album! Just awesome.
Turns out that "All Fired Up" and "Red, White & Blue" are both from the Turbo sessions. Why didn't these get used earlier? What on earth were they thinking?

I didn't realise that Judas Priest started in the 60s but all the original members were gone within a short number of years.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 15 June 2018 18:57 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Sin After Sin is good fun. "Diamonds & Rust", "Let Us Prey/Call For The Priest", "Here Come the Tears" moving into "Dissident Aggressor" are all great.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 31 August 2018 22:32 (two years ago) link

Stained Class is the best and got screwed here

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Saturday, 1 September 2018 05:35 (two years ago) link


Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 1 September 2018 14:29 (two years ago) link

yeah stained class is the one

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 1 September 2018 14:40 (two years ago) link

I maintain 7 votes for Rocka Rolla as best Priest album is still the single worst ILM poll result

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 1 September 2018 15:20 (two years ago) link

"Dissident Aggressor" is the shit!

brimstead, Saturday, 1 September 2018 16:32 (two years ago) link

Stained Class, Screaming For Vengeance, Defenders of the Faith are prob my top 3.

I mean, Sad Wings of Destiny & Rocka Rolla are cool & all but I don’t really think of them when i’m looking for a ~PRIEST~ fix.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 September 2018 16:39 (two years ago) link

I’d be less upset if Turbo got top spot. I mean jfc

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 September 2018 16:40 (two years ago) link

maintain 7 votes for Rocka Rolla as best Priest album is still the single worst ILM poll result

― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, September 1, 2018 11:20 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was some Sanjaya shit

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 September 2018 16:46 (two years ago) link

I like metal but never liked a single thing by Judas Priest - 2 votes

I wish at the time we explored what motivated these two sad creatures...

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 1 September 2018 16:52 (two years ago) link

Sad Wings is one of my favs for sure. "Tyrant", "The Ripper", "Victim of Changes", "Dreamer Deceiver" are 4 of my fav tunes.

Rocka Rolla tho....I can like, hum one tune ("One for the Road")

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 September 2018 17:09 (two years ago) link

I'm glad to see some of the best stuff is yet ahead of me. Never knew Stained Class was supposed to be special.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 1 September 2018 17:11 (two years ago) link

Rocka Rolla is fine but it doesn't even feel like they've found themselves yet, it's like the voting Book of Talyesin as the best Deep Purple album....Sad Wings is very 70s but still feels like a metal record and Priest

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 1 September 2018 17:39 (two years ago) link

Rocka Rolla is the indie pick

omar little, Saturday, 1 September 2018 17:41 (two years ago) link

ums otm

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 September 2018 18:18 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I am now going to finally listen to Ram It Down cos why the fuck not, it's about time

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:00 (two years ago) link

I still love the title track and "Blood Red Skies", Johnny B Goode is awful. everything else, I haven't heard!

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:00 (two years ago) link

"Heavy Metal" - the fuck is this pseudo-Def Leppard shit

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:06 (two years ago) link

"Love Zone" - this was p much written for strip clubs wasn't it

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:09 (two years ago) link

"Come and Get It" - this at least SOUNDS like Priest, at least until the bridge when it goes to hair metal town. and these lyrics, fuuuuck

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:12 (two years ago) link

"Hard as Iron" - jesus christ

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:14 (two years ago) link

"Blood Red Skies" - always loved this one, a fav. shame about the album it's on

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:16 (two years ago) link

"I'm a Rocker" - this song is wearing zebra pants with a shit-stain on the back

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:17 (two years ago) link

"Johnny B Goode" - god, what they did to the chorus is just criminal

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:17 (two years ago) link

"Love You to Death" - this could p much be a late 80s Motley song

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:20 (two years ago) link

"Monsters of Rock" - this is fucking 'Stonehenge'

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:21 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

Not too keen on Angel Of Retribution but "Hellrider" is really fun and "Loch Ness" is the most nwobhm thing, I'm impressed how straight faced it is, it's pretty cool.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 25 January 2019 18:07 (two years ago) link

we should really repoll this

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 18:08 (two years ago) link

results more baffling every time

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 18:09 (two years ago) link

I like metal but never liked a single thing by Judas Priest

pomenitul, Friday, 25 January 2019 18:09 (two years ago) link

True true trollish response would be 'I like metal hence I never liked a single thing by Judas Priest'.

pomenitul, Friday, 25 January 2019 18:12 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

started reading Confess.

in the foreword, he uses his favorite recent phrase: "I am the stately homo of heavy metal".

the story of how he first sang in class and his teacher took him to several other classrooms to have him sing was pretty awesome. can't wait to finish this.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 January 2021 15:31 (two weeks ago) link

Martin Popoff's book on Judas Priest is quite good.

I would have voted Stained Class. Rocka Rolla is not an embarrassment but none of it works either, partly due to a completely leaden drummer, who then has to try to start a groove in 5/4 time in the opening track.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 9 January 2021 15:56 (two weeks ago) link

Confess is really good.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:39 (two weeks ago) link

Huh...I wouldn’t be thrown if someone told me Sad Wings was there favorite because it’s pretty interesting and transitional but still..

“Big” Don Abernathy, Saturday, 9 January 2021 18:05 (two weeks ago) link

Not exactly an uncommon opinion

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 January 2021 18:54 (two weeks ago) link

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