Best Judas Priest Album

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
Sad Wings Of Destiny 10
Rocka Rolla 7
British Steel 6
Screaming For Vengeance 3
Painkiller 2
Turbo 2
I like metal but never liked a single thing by Judas Priest2
Sin After Sin 2
Point Of Entry 1
Hell Bent For Leather 1
Defenders Of The Faith 1
Stained Class 0
Ram It Down 0
Jugulator 0
Demolition 0
Angel of Retribution 0


NYCNative, Monday, 30 April 2007 10:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I predict that Painkiller will get a lot of love here and that Turbo will get some votes (even a few un-ironic ones) however Sad Wings Of Destiny is one of my all-time favorite albums so that's an obvious choice.

NYCNative, Monday, 30 April 2007 10:16 (fourteen years ago) link

SWOD is such a great record from start to finish.

moley, Monday, 30 April 2007 10:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I have to admit I haven't heard most of them, but I cannot imagine any of them possibly being better than "British Steel", with "United" and all.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 30 April 2007 11:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah - I voted for 'Sad Wings of Destiny' just for the fact that I play it more and enjoy the birth of modern metal via that album. But 'Screaming for Vengeance' and 'Painkiller' are soooo close.

BlackIronPrison, Monday, 30 April 2007 11:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Sin After Sin.

xhuxk, Monday, 30 April 2007 12:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll second that Sin After Sin pick.

Though I must admit to loving the first few albums about equally (even Rocka Rolla) because I was introduced to Priest by a cousin who gave me a copy of the Hero, Hero comp when I was eight. The winter of 80/81 had me rocking out to "Tyrant" and my mom singing along to their Joan Baez cover. Good times.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link

voted for British Steel, but Hell Bent comes very close…anybody else a fan of "Killing Machine?" an incrediblly awesome, ZZ-Top-ish funky tune.

Veronica Moser, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Too bad live LPs are disallowed as always - Unleashed In The East is one of my favourite live albums ever, plus its superior song selection makes it my favourite album by a band that generally underwhelms me. (I've only heard/owned 7-8 Priest albums, admittedly.) And my second choice would be that Hero, Hero comp. Hmm.

Sad Wings Of Destiny it is, largely for "Victim Of Changes" (which is actually kinda genuinely moving.)

Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

"Breakin the Law" by Harry Batt!

Mark G, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Another vote for Sad Wings here. They weren't a very consistent albums band really. My favourite Priest release is the DVD with all the promos on it.

Matt #2, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Hell Bent For Leather.

JN$OT, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

C'mon someone vote for 'Angel of Retribution'!

BlackIronPrison, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i voted for defenders just cuz it was the first one i ever had...

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 30 April 2007 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Painkiller. Just fucking rips from start to finish. Even the filler tracks rock harder than a lot of bands' best songs. I'd list which songs I liked, but I'd end up listing the whole album. I do have to say that "Battle Hymn/One Shot at Glory" does not get the love that it deserves.

Actually did consider voting for Turbo. "Turbo Lover" and "Out in the Cold" always send shivers down my spine. Unfortunately, the forced "we like to party" songs put a damper on the whole thing.

Jeff Treppel, Monday, 30 April 2007 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha! I knew you would vote for Painkiller, Jeff!

As for Angel Of Retribution, I did like that album more than I thought I would when it came out but haven't listened since. I still think it will hold up better than the Dickinson-reunion Maiden discs.

NYCNative, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Am I that predictable? Dammit. Should have voted for Turbo. But I couldn't. I actually love Painkiller so much that I've used images and song titles from it in comic book and movie pitches that I've written.

Angel of Retribution was pretty good up until the fucking Loch Ness track. That thing killed it dead. But there are some good tracks on the record, just nothing spectacular. The first Halford solo album was way better. As were the first two Dickinson-reunion Maiden discs.

Jeff Treppel, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyway, back to Turbo, which is an album that I don't think is discussed enough. It's probably the Judas Priest album that I listen to the second-most (although besides Painkiller, I find myself listening to Metal Works the most, since that's an extremely well sequenced anthology). I absolutely love the chili, heavily-processed synthesizer sound. I feel like if they had made it an album about the de-humanizing effects of technology with that same production, it would have been fantastic (which "Turbo Lover" and "Out in the Cold" approach). The biggest problem is the lyrical content, as I mention above, since they were trying to write "party anthems." Unfortunately, they were never very good at party anthems, and the frigid production of Turbo didn't really work with those tunes. Really a missed opportunity. I would have liked to have seen more serious metal bands try the synth thing in the 80s, like with Rage for Order and Somewhere in Time (also both from 1986, and both more successful than Turbo, artistically at least).

Jeff Treppel, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Jeff, I knew you'd go with Painkiller because you're far younger than I am... :) At least that's the impression I get (I'm 38).

You need to get Sad Wings and put on your headphones and listen all the way through. Then remember that they made this record in 1976! It tries to capture the majesty of Queen but the greatness comes in not because of that but how it also anticipates the classic feel that is on many of the older NWOBHM discs (inspired that whole movement, actually) with a smattering of Sabbath (because you had to have Sabbath) and a tinge of the boogie of Rocka Rolla held over for good measure. It was also the only Priest disc to feature piano (and quite well). I want "Epitaph" played at my funeral and I want "Victim Of Changes" to be played loudly on almost every long car trip and I want "The Ripper" to always go left-right through my head like the first time I heard it on the aforementioned headphones.

As a friend put it, "man, they weren't making a metal record. They didn't know WHAT they were making. But it's fucking amazing."

So yeah, I kinda like this disc.

NYCNative, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I have Sad Wings! Judas Priest are one of my very favorite bands. I own almost everything they ever put out. And I like Sad Wings, don't get me wrong. I listen to it fairly regularly. But Painkiller blew me away when I first listened to it. Driving home from high school through the back roads of Princeton, New Jersey at night and hearing "Nightcrawler" creep its way onto my speakers is one of the most indelible musical experiences of my life. And it's never lost its punch in the seven or eight years since then (which should give you an idea of my age). Still, it isn't so much an age thing as it is that Painkiller is their most cinematic record, which is a quality most of my favorite records have in common.

Jeff Treppel, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Not sure I've ever given Sad Wings the headphone listen, though. I'll have to do that.

Jeff Treppel, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:46 (fourteen years ago) link

It's their "We toured with Pantera and saw the future" record if you ask me. Also is was John Travis' first disc behind the kit and his style propelled the band as well, a style leared toiling as Racer X's drummer. Which isn't to say I don't like it - I do, very much, in fact for those very reasons.

NYCNative, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link

(Scott Travis, not John)

Could be. I'm not aware of who they toured with at the time. But hey, they saw the future better than a lot of the other classic bands at that time (Ozzy Osbourne, Motorhead, and Iron Maiden, off the top of my head, although that isn't to say that some of those didn't put out respectable albums around then). Way better than anything they had done for about a decade, and it would have been interesting to see where they went from there had it not been for Halford's departure. The energy on it gets me out of my seat whenever I put it on. Plus, as pointed out above, Priest albums tended to be somewhat spotty, but Painkiller was consistently great all the way through.

(Although now I'm trying to figure out when exactly I got that record. It was either junior or senior year of high school, so yeah, seven or eight years)

Jeff Treppel, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, Scott Travis! John Travis was a producer/engineer I knew back in the day... Doh!

NYCNative, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Painkiller is their other record that's tops from start to finish. Sin After Sin is maybe their most underrated.

moley, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 11:11 (fourteen years ago) link

And I feel duty bound to stick my hand up for Angel of Retribution, not as their best, but as a pretty damn good record - especially Deal eith the Devil. It not only rocks, it has a wonderfully comic lyric conceit - 'How did we get to be so rocking? We made a deal with the devil!' - that's clever/dumb in the best possible way. And I love Lochness. I could listen to a whole album of that stuff. Big, dark, stoopid songs that sound like they could be the Russian national anthem. British Steel is the one Halford himself nominates as their best. It's maybe their most original and rocking album, and really benefits from the unfussy drumming and production. Unlike Geir, a gentleman with whom I agree alarming often, I don't like 'United' from that album. It tries too hard to be a terrace anthem. It's too self-consciously out to be a hit single. It mars the album a little for me.

moley, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 11:17 (fourteen years ago) link

British Steel every time.

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm actually surprised at the lack of love for Screaming for Vengeance here. Come on, people! "Hellion/Electric Eye?" "Screaming for Vengeance?" "You've Got Another Thing Coming?" It's a classic! I mean, I didn't vote for it, but I explain in thorough detail above why not.

Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link

That was their Top 40 phase...

NYCNative, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link

It was the first JP album I had, and I loved it - still do. Many people say it's their best - I think it starts with a bang, for sure. Maybe it tails off a little towards the end. The production is a little sibilant and trebly, but you get used to that.

moley, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link

it's Point Of Entry, folks...for two reasons: "Heading Out To The Highway", and "Turning Circles"...both perfectly capture the exhiliration/monotony of high-speed cruising...

henry s, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I was just listening to Point of Entry today in the car. "Desert Plains" is probably my favorite on there. Another one of those epic tracks that sent shivers down my spine. "Heading out to the Highway" is classic, of course.

Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link

It's interesting to me that Point Of Entry was viewed at the time as a bit of an experimental release and a failure at that. Of course years later Turbo would also get branded the same way...

NYCNative, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyone going to defend the Ripper albums?

Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link

not me!

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

actually my fav might actually be "Unleashed in the East"

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Jugulator has a couple good songs ("Jugulator" and "Bullet Train"), but Demolition is completely worthless. The thing about Ripper is that he has a good voice, but absolutely no personality to go with it.

Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't know, like i dig on sabbath w/dio because it was sort of a different animal...i can dig the dianno era and the dickenson eras of maiden too, but for me there's something w/priest that i can't separate from halford. he just fits them so perfectly.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

What about the Blaze years, Matt?

Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Well there's a big surprise in there - Rocka Rolla, disowned by the band themselves, in at #2 - ahead of British Steel. Rocka Rolla is a great bluesy rock album, very much of its time.

moley, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Screaming for Vengeance didn't get nearly enough love here, top 40 phase or whatever the jams on it are so fucking solid

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

can't believe 0 votes for stained class, baffled by the rocka rolla/british steel love, but glad that SWOD is rightly recognized as their best album

special shout-out to "sinner" from sin after sin - that superstoned middle interlude is one of my fav musical moments of all time

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

My favourite will always be Defenders of the Faith. Personally I've always thought Vengeance is a bit overrated, the title track is mediocre and a couple others just make me cringe ("Devil's Child", for one)...I prefer the dense, cold sound of Defenders.

(Stained Class and Hell Bent For Leather aren't far behind)

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

oh man the sfv title track was kicking my ass today. those guitars!

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

0 votes for stained class is insane!

turbo tied with painkiller is also pretty weird.

as far as top 40 priest goes, I think I prefer point of entry to screaming for vengeance. but both are cool.

original bgm, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

we follow the dreamer

the lonesome crowded west (jdchurchill), Friday, 10 June 2011 13:44 (ten years ago) link

British Steel way too high in this original poll. Good album,but even the high points are way watered down compared to their glory days. I'd take Sin after Sin, Stained Class, Sad Wings, even Defenders and Screaming over it.

my downeaster ilxor (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 June 2011 21:20 (ten years ago) link

just this week i have been listening to sad wings and everytime i think to myself holy shit dude this is like the best album

the lonesome crowded west (jdchurchill), Friday, 10 June 2011 23:56 (ten years ago) link

the only downside to it is I think Rob's vocal on Victim of Changes pales in comparison to how he did it on the live album.

my downeaster ilxor (Neanderthal), Saturday, 11 June 2011 03:36 (ten years ago) link

"Tyrant", though.......ohhhhhhhhhh man.

my downeaster ilxor (Neanderthal), Saturday, 11 June 2011 03:36 (ten years ago) link

"Heavy Metal" - the fuck is this pseudo-Def Leppard shit

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:06 (three years ago) link

"Love Zone" - this was p much written for strip clubs wasn't it

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:09 (three years ago) link

"Come and Get It" - this at least SOUNDS like Priest, at least until the bridge when it goes to hair metal town. and these lyrics, fuuuuck

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:12 (three years ago) link

"Hard as Iron" - jesus christ

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:14 (three years ago) link

"Blood Red Skies" - always loved this one, a fav. shame about the album it's on

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:16 (three years ago) link

"I'm a Rocker" - this song is wearing zebra pants with a shit-stain on the back

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:17 (three years ago) link

"Johnny B Goode" - god, what they did to the chorus is just criminal

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:17 (three years ago) link

"Love You to Death" - this could p much be a late 80s Motley song

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:20 (three years ago) link

"Monsters of Rock" - this is fucking 'Stonehenge'

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 September 2018 04:21 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

Not too keen on Angel Of Retribution but "Hellrider" is really fun and "Loch Ness" is the most nwobhm thing, I'm impressed how straight faced it is, it's pretty cool.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 25 January 2019 18:07 (two years ago) link

we should really repoll this

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 18:08 (two years ago) link

results more baffling every time

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 18:09 (two years ago) link

I like metal but never liked a single thing by Judas Priest

pomenitul, Friday, 25 January 2019 18:09 (two years ago) link

True true trollish response would be 'I like metal hence I never liked a single thing by Judas Priest'.

pomenitul, Friday, 25 January 2019 18:12 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

started reading Confess.

in the foreword, he uses his favorite recent phrase: "I am the stately homo of heavy metal".

the story of how he first sang in class and his teacher took him to several other classrooms to have him sing was pretty awesome. can't wait to finish this.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 January 2021 15:31 (eight months ago) link

Martin Popoff's book on Judas Priest is quite good.

I would have voted Stained Class. Rocka Rolla is not an embarrassment but none of it works either, partly due to a completely leaden drummer, who then has to try to start a groove in 5/4 time in the opening track.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 9 January 2021 15:56 (eight months ago) link

Confess is really good.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:39 (eight months ago) link

Huh...I wouldn’t be thrown if someone told me Sad Wings was there favorite because it’s pretty interesting and transitional but still..

“Big” Don Abernathy, Saturday, 9 January 2021 18:05 (eight months ago) link

Not exactly an uncommon opinion

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 January 2021 18:54 (eight months ago) link

seven months pass...

I never got the detraction from Painkiller being too much pandering to more 'extreme' metal like thrash, et al. the album is earwormy as fuck. like, it's more 'extreme' Priest, but the vocal and guitar melodies are all over the place awesome.

little 18 year old me probably gravitated to it for that reason. it melts faces, but it still has their songcraft at the center.

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 00:14 (one week ago) link

When Pantera supported Priest it seemed to be a revelation for Priest... I still remember the pix from that tour.

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/46440539_1858849597540264_7416699773278748672_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=EC6Wt1v-s8kAX_nEJyf&tn=0A0EJtp07Dhgs60j&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=9fdc3f5da608ea411b86587e3fdf94c8&oe=615E445F

The album was definitely a case where Priest saw the future and wanted to be a part of it.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 01:13 (one week ago) link

I'm so old, I can remember when Phil Anselmo had an upper register.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 01:32 (one week ago) link

probably the only vocalist in history that degraded not because he smoked, stopped practicing, got old, but because he felt his old singing style was "too wussy" and deliberately never went back to it and proceeded to destroy any ability to sing like that anymore, probably intentionally

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 01:35 (one week ago) link

ffs the high notes in Cemetary Gates are insane.

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 01:36 (one week ago) link

for whatever reason I spent half the post above mis-remembering Phil Anselmo being dead and remembered he's not.

oh well

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 01:36 (one week ago) link

I always liked Painkiller

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 03:23 (one week ago) link

Painkiller has aged beautifully over the last 30 years.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 13:53 (one week ago) link

speaking of, I caught a vid from the Bloodstock set, and they did "Hell Patrol". the only previous time they played it, he took the chorus down an octave.

not this time.

and he hit the high notes during the bridge too.

idk what he did but his voice sounds way better than in, like, 2009.

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 14:16 (one week ago) link

was he a smoker?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 16:05 (one week ago) link

feel like I should know that after I read Confess....ugh.

I know he abstains from drinking after some crazy living in the 80s. can't recall on the cigs.

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 16:36 (one week ago) link

Painkiller is such a great album. I was positively obsessed with it for a while earlier this year. Endless riffs and hooks

JRN, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 16:44 (one week ago) link

xpost yeah just thinking of one of the only ways that an older person's singing voice might improve over time

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 16:48 (one week ago) link

one day I went to karaoke at a local haunt. this place used to be great, but new Trump/gun-loving owners came in, and fired my friend the KJ who had worked there for like 20+ years. so needless to say I didn't wanna go back, but I got invited by two friends one night and I said 'hey why not'.

so I look through the songs and I am surprised to see "Nightcrawler" by Judas Priest, from Painkiller, on the karaoke list. so I put in to sing it.

this is a very countrified audience and I get up already thinking they'll hate me, but maybe if I do my best Halford, I'll win them over. then the karaoke track starts and I find out it's a fucking MIDI file. the guitars sound like farts.

I suddenly felt like I was singing over Nintendo music, sweat profusely the entire time, and sang like garbage cos I wanted it to be over.

I blame Painkiller for this.

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 16:51 (one week ago) link

xpost yeah that would make sense. i'll have to look it up.

I have a theory that he might have gone to a vocal coach/lessons to teach him new ways to produce the same sounds. because it does seem like he's altered his technique a little bit on the falsetto to make it work without sounding like he swallowed barbed wire.

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 16:52 (one week ago) link

I'd like to hear a MIDI version of "Nightcrawler". However, I would not like to sing over one in public

JRN, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:10 (one week ago) link

sounded like it was made in 1995

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:16 (one week ago) link

That's how I'm imagining it, like something from the original Doom soundtrack

JRN, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:21 (one week ago) link

i feel like the general consensus about "turbo" being a really fun, engaging oddity in their catalog has risen over the years which makes me happy

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 19:07 (one week ago) link

also watched the US festival doc again the other day and goddamn do they completely destroy on metal day

crue seems so fucking feeble compared to priest, scorpions, and (believe it or not) triumph, motley is some real non-playing motherfuckers to quote miles davis

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 19:11 (one week ago) link

motley have always stunk live
100% non playing motherfuckers

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 19:12 (one week ago) link

love the Scorps. would love to see them one day. more of an Uli Jon Roth era fan but I like the stadium stuff too.

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 19:19 (one week ago) link

Turbo definitely has grown in stature in retrospect. I can understand why.

Priest's trajectory in the 80s was a little odd - British Steel and Point of Entry was clearly their attempt to go a more commercial direction, but then they started bending back towards balls to the wall metal. Screaming for Vengeance was kind of a mixture of commercial and tr00 metal, somewhat jarring how they go from like the title track to "Fever", or "Riding on the Wind" to "Take These Chains". and then Defenders of the Faith pretty much went all the way back to face-melting metal. even the Ray Haligan, Jr penned-song ("Some Heads are Gonna Roll") sounded like a Priest classic. so I think fans thought they would continue in that direction, and they incorporated synths and poppier elements, unlike their previous commercial efforts. Guessing fans were just confused, thinking they'd continue in the Defenders direction.

removing expectations from the mix helps. the title track has always been glorious, one of the best examples of synth-80s metal done well. "Out in the Cold" is great, and I enjoy the cheese of "Rock You All Around the World". I hate "Wild Nights and Crazy Days" and "Parental Guidance". but Priest taking this turn in 86 wasn't, like, a Cold Lake type move. they'd already made similar pivots before, they just happened to have arguably their best, most uptempo album sandwiched in between those maneuvers.

Ram It Down, on the other hand, is completely irredeemable. other than the title track and Blood Red Skies, I guess.

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 19:28 (one week ago) link

listening to Point of Entry rn, I really love this

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 19:39 (one week ago) link

i never really understand the metal audience but my feeling is that is there really any harm in some curveballs? like looking through their catalog is there shortage of judas priest true metal songs?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 19:40 (one week ago) link

a little disappointed that "thunder road" isn't a springsteen cover, given that they've covered joan baez it didn't seem impossible

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 19:47 (one week ago) link

no harm in curveballs. but metal has a sizable population of meatheads who don't think the formula should change. the first (and only) time I saw Savatage live, there was a 40-something guy who kept saying "fuck this, play Sirens" for about an hour, until they finally did. everybody was telling him to shut the fuck up.

hell, right now, there are metalheads (not on ILX) shitting on the new Maiden because it's long and ponderous and doesn't sound like "The Trooper". (there are others who have more legit, reasoned criticisms, but there's a whole lot of the former too).

quite frankly, I'm disappointed we never got an album like their cover of "You are Everything", of which only 60 seconds has been made publicly available. the sample of that cover is one of the most amazing things I've ever heard, like they metalized the song without losing its pop foundation and it's gorgeous. and Halford himself says he's a 'pop tart' in Confess, so I suspect he'd love to record an album of pop and R&B covers.

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 19:52 (one week ago) link

I...don't hate Ram It Down. It's about half a good album; the title track, "Heavy Metal," "Come and Get It," "Hard as Iron" ...all decent songs. And the ugliness of the production (the guitars especially) works for me in the same way AC/DC's Fly On The Wall does. It's just a really ear-punishing album, but it's got more songs I actually like than Turbo. And you can absolutely hear that they were two halves of the same coin; there are synths and drum machines all over Ram It Down.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 20:17 (one week ago) link

i'm a fellow fly on the wall apologist

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 21:10 (one week ago) link

My husband got to interview Rob Halford via Zoom, and I can't stop giggling at the perfect framing--namely, the wizard throwing up double metal horns on the shelf behind him. (The Halford candle is also a perfect touch.) pic.twitter.com/JcBsTPyTpd

— Annie Zaleski (@anniezaleski) September 9, 2021

The video, btw! https://t.co/XMLcnNORNZ

— Annie Zaleski (@anniezaleski) September 9, 2021

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 September 2021 15:21 (one week ago) link

Ha i just saw that and here i am

Hunt3r, Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:01 (one week ago) link


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