Santigold

in the sense that artists are prob now thinking of what advertisers will like in the same way they once thought of what radio playlisters would like.

Labels, and to some extent radio stations and music television, also had a stake in nurturing stars who would keep fans returning to find out what happened next, allowing their catalogs to be perennially rediscovered.

This is especially LOL, as in the '80s the bitch would be that labels were nurturing stars instead of supporting artists. Now no one's going to mind the factory! They'll just take your jingle and leave you to your own devices! Gasp!

in the sense that artists are prob now thinking of what advertisers will like in the same way they once thought of what radio playlisters would like.

which is the latest fashions, obvious hooks and unchallenging lyrical sentiments in both cases.

xpost to Lex: Maybe I (willfully) misinterpreted the chorus "We think you're a joke / Shove your hope where it don't shine" but it seemed pretty pointed to me.

hmm i've just looked at the lyrics to 'shove it' for the first time and the entire song makes literally not a jot of sense - obama doesn't own the word "hope", and nothing else in the song suggests that she's referring to him, or to anything much. she's never expressed any political views as such, has she? i suspect she's a bit of a div so i've never paid attention to what she says too much.

Brooklyn we go hard
We on the look for the advantage, we work hard
And if we seem to rough it up a bit
We broke but we rich at heart
Pull ourselves up now we won't choke
It's our time, put the lights on us

War tactics they make me sick
reel your heart in run away with it
Smile in your face, undermine your back
got guns for the strength they lack
So if you know another way
you can't look the other way
if you know another way,
tell them so right to their face

We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine (4x)

I pay for what's called
eccentricity and my will to evolve
I hear them all say
that I got heart
but not everything that it takes

Taint my mind but not my soul
Tell you I got fire
I wont sell it for no payroll
Let 'em hold me down
I know if I know another way
I can't look the other way
I know another way
I'll tell them so right to their face

We think you're a joke
Shove your hope where it don't shine (4x)

This reads like a generic "fight the system" song; the only link to Obama is the word "hope".

if anything the nameless "they" of the song seems to be the same "they" of 'l.e.s. artistes' and half the album, ie the people santogold would have encountered as an a&r in the entertainment industry around her every day.

I thought "a&r" was "they"

love the album but her borough repping is on some http://www.defendbrooklyn.com/new_store/bk_black_t_drunkgirl.jpg level shit

yeah but didn't "hope" didn't signify "obama" this year? that's only my take, after all.

might have liked it anyway if it wasn't for all the other stuff i didn't like.

Album came out in late April. No idea when it was actually completed though, but not hard to believe the reference had little to do with Obama.

This interview from February indicates she was an Obama supporter btw.

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2008/02/super-tuesday-s.html

yeah okay doesn't matter though

that line struck me as weird this year too & i couldnt parse it but im willing to believe it was just a coincidence

she's been writing songs her whole adult life - id caution against the idea that this song was written in reaction to or even around the rise of obama

what does that line about 'her whole adult life' have to do with it jordan? i'm older, i've been listening to music my whole adult and child life, she decided to get tough using the year's main signifier and it happened to clang harshly off my ears. it's actually WORSE if she is just singing another song about her poor artistic struggles, does she not have any other topics?

enough. my points are like this: 1. that's how i heard it so that's how i hear it; 2. my not-liking of that song is PART of why i don't like the album; 3. i might be wrong about this BUT WHO CARES. certainly not her, she's from brooklyn, SHE GOES HARD.

also it kind of pissed me off when she said that anyone who thinks she's r&b is just racist and lumping her in with r&b because she's black. what, is she a music critic too? ew, gross.

o_0

relax man - just like you're throwing out the possibility that it's a song about obama im throwing out the possibility that she wrote the song before obama/hope was really a thing

jordan i just wanted to understand your point. i guess now i do. but don't worry, i'm really really relaxed right now. thanks for the advice though!

thank you for not transcribing spank rock's verse on shove it

also it kind of pissed me off when she said that anyone who thinks she's r&b is just racist and lumping her in with r&b because she's black. what, is she a music critic too? ew, gross.

lol

whos said shes R&B? but to be fair, you could see how someone might hear some of the beat-driven tracks on the album and make the link.

http://www.mediafire.com/?3zzumkz2joj

santogold + project pat 2gether at last

http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keywords=Santogold&rh=n%3A39%2Ck%3ASantogold&page=1

lolololololol good job, Amazon

Did you find what you were looking for? Yes No

"Mark Ronson In Studio" is still fucking hilarious btw.

lawsuit from Santo Gold (jeweler) -> she's now called santigold -> http://www.myspace.com/SANTiGOLD

should've gone with Santos L. Halper

santis partyhouse

I just recently saw the video for Creator, the one song I really like. It's one of the worst videos I've ever seen

In general I think the MIA comparisons are apt not only sonically, but because she has the same half-assedness about her vocals and her persona -- actually much more half-assed than MIA on the latter.

also they both live in clinton hill and think its bed stuy

OH DAMN

pre-brooklyn go hard i dug that shove it joint when i heard it last year on a mixtape after sensual seduction but clicking that vid up top is killin me - folks really argued she wasnt jackin MIA?? how many people could you play that for sight unseen & tell them its the new MIA joint and theyd be like, oh it doesnt sound like her? or ask em who it is & see who comes up

i still think shes cuet inna diamond from crime mob kinda way

Lyrics of that song are also annoying - "I'm creative! I break the rules!" also "I run the streets" - wtf does that even mean when she says it?

i enjoy her music but yah

i dunno i do kinda see her & mia as good role models for young girls who maybe 10 yrs ago woulda gravitated towards i dunno tori amos or some such garbage

hah dont let the lex see that

Lyrics of that song are also annoying - "I'm creative! I break the rules!" also "I run the streets" - wtf does that even mean when she says it?

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hahaha ya. i enjoy like 60% of what i've heard but that song is kinda wtf

whos the herb on the decks wearing the "baltimore int'l" shirt

if a year or two from now diplo is collaborating w/another woman of color on some poppy/dancey/rappy shit will that be sort of weird

Actually I was told is was "the real Santogold"... http://www.santogold.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsulZKXFxK8

First time I've ever heard that. I knew Santi had worked on some of Ashlee's songs, and kept meaning to go back and check into it. I LIKES.

Had this since around the year it came out. I really didn't get it. Thought it was half cooked pop rock/MIA wannabe bull. However, listening to it on the way to work and realized it sounded great as a whole. I mean it's influences is worn on its sleeve still, but at least I "get" it now. Plus I tend to forget that MIA is a half cooked Neneh Cherry so it all evens out.

this music is just fucking terrible terrible shit, don't even put neneh's name near this thread

um...wow. It's not that deep or crucial.

And plus, it's hard not to bring up Neneh since she is one of the obvious precursor of these two women.