― dave q, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― maryann, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― other Keith, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
Private joke for Andrew L: they don't sound as good on CD, of course.
― Martin Skidmore, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― adam, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― Lady Space Pilot, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― keith m, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
The first suicide album is just as great, one of the few album that
justify the 'wasn't New York punk soo great!' line (both albums clock
in at half hour but DAF 'album' has 20-odd tracks in that time slot).
― Julio Desouza, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
*beats Sean over head with drum pad* Wrong reaction. ;-)
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― Paul, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
Still, I've never heard anything quite like the first Suicide
record. His voice is incredible, one of my favorite male pop
vocalists, right (well, almost) alongside Bryan Ferry, Bowie, etc.
And the music is suffocating - nothing beats that chuggy steam sound
of the "cheesy" (?) drum machine they used. It fucks up and changes
its hiss pitch so often that it kind of sounds more nuanced that a
live drummer - it sounds *alive*. I can't believe someone would
prefer, like, an 80s Boss drum machine over Suicide's - that is,
unless you think all drum machines are cheesy, in which case you are
beyond repair! ;-)
― Clarke B., Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
daf - first few records amazing, then lost it, delgado and gorl
release quite good solo records and thankfully have never
i bet mute are going to start planning a daf remix project any day
― stirmonster, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
OK that's not true.
― , Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
Was just listening to early DAF recently....in particular, "Die Kleinen Und Die Bosen". Dear god, this record is the culmination of the most gutteral and rhythmic eras of Wire, Cabaret Voltaire, and Einsterzende Neubauten all in one. I only wish each side (the studio and live sides, respectively) were expanded each to their own records.
"Ein Produkt.." is fine, too, though it sounds like a cluster diagram or blueprint for a record, more than a record itself. Lots of snippets of great musical ideas that could have become amazing compositions. Anyway, if it's true this record was a big influence on Albini, it makes a lot of sense... the rhythms, the guitar noise, all sound like they're foreshadowing Big Black and Shellac...
The "Der Mussolini" single is pure godhead. An out-of-tune bass synth sequencer commanding a slave drummer, a chorus of cartoon pigs squealing, and a singer who bursts out the names of dictators orgasmically.
I wish the rest of the three "sex" albums could match "Der Mussolini" but they don't... though there are some great moments there. And yeah, Nitzer Ebb pretty much made a five finger discount of the musical and fashion ideas from this era from DAF and ran with it.
Destroy anything post early 80s/post Mute.
― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link
that's an interesting connection. I never made it myself because I think it's such a rough record. the idea is not to expand on anything. I love it. love the fact they don't flesh anything out in songs, whereas shellac/albini always do so...
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 1 October 2002 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― hstencil, Tuesday, 1 October 2002 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link
Osten Währt am Längsten
― blunt, Monday, 28 July 2008 04:44 (eleven years ago) link
Düsseldorf's notoriously risqué DAF are set to play four live dates in support of a new compilation.
DAF's provocative and sexually-charged electronic punk paved the way for EBM acts such as Die Krupps and Nitzer Ebb, and they're constantly cited as one of the groups that helped to push edgier electronic sounds into the limelight. It's now been thirty years since the release of their Ein Produkt der Deutsch-Amerikanischen Freundschaft album, and the outfit have decided to regroup for a handful of dates to celebrate the occasion. While the performances won't feature the band's original line-up, both Robert Görl and Gabi Delgado-Lopez (who became the core members following the departure of Chrislo Haas and Wolfgang Spelmans in 1981) will be present for the shows, which includes their first UK date in 25 years.
The current run of shows begin in Hamburg and Leipzig at the end of this month, with March dates planned for both Venice and London. The short tour precedes the release of a new Best Of release, which will be entitled Das Beste Von DAF - 20 Lieder der Deutsch Amerikanischen Freundschaft. This isn't their first reunion, however, as Görl and Delgado-Lopez briefly got back together in 1985 for 1st Step to Heaven and again in 2003 for Fünfzehn Neue D.A.F-Lieder. Speaking about the recent run of dates, Görl has stated that "a reunion of DAF was always in the air—it was only a matter of time." UK fans will be glad to know that after two decades, they'll be able to end their excruciating wait for a DAF live show at Islington Academy on March 28th.
Tracklist01. Greif nach den Sternen02. Sex unter Wasser03. Der Mussolini04. Ich Will05. Verschwende Deine Jugend06. Alle gegen Alle07. Was ziehst Du an heute Nacht08. Rote Lippen09. Sato Sato10. Ein bisschen Krieg11. Die Götter sind Weiss12. Im Dschungel der Liebe13. Verlieb dich in mich14. Der Räuber und der Prinz15. Ich und die Wirklichkeit16. Verehrt euren Haarschnitt17. Goldenes Spielzeug18. Als wärs das letzte mal19. Liebe auf den ersten Blick20. Prinzessin
The Grey Area of Mute will release Das Beste Von DAF - 20 Lieder der Deutsch Amerikanischen Freundschaft on April 21, 2009.
Feb 27 DAF, Uebel & Gefährlich, Hamburg Feb 28 DAF, Lagerhof, Leipzig Mar 14 DAF, Fucina Controvento, North Mar 28 DAF, Islington Academy, London
― rio (r1o natsume), Friday, 20 February 2009 10:57 (eleven years ago) link
Gabi Delgado has left us :-(
― stirmonster, Monday, 23 March 2020 20:44 (two weeks ago) link
See also here:15 Neue DAF Lieder
― No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Monday, 23 March 2020 23:28 (two weeks ago) link