S/D, C/D: J.J. Cale

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I just bought Troubadour. And while it is a bit samey in sound, I'm quite fond of the sound, especially Cale's sly rasp. So, what else is there to know?

(Tried searching for threads, but only came up with one about 'After Midnight')

the table is the table, Friday, 6 April 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

buy all the 70's stuff.

i'm kinda no help though. i love them all. and they are all sorta similar. perfectly stoned miniatures of even-handed drawl and desperado drum-machines.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

if you like one, chances are, you'll like the rest.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-691817-1158645127.jpeg

the table is the table, Friday, 6 April 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah! thanks scott.

i'm really disappointed that the image didn't come out there.

the table is the table, Friday, 6 April 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree with this... He's got a very individual style that leads you to either like him or not - I love all the '70s ones and it's fairly random which one I might stick on, if I want to listen to him, because it doesn't really matter!

Table - I can't for the life of me work out why that image doesn't actually show - the HTML all looks OK, so it was all posted right. I even tried to fix it, but it doesn't show. Must be something at the other end preventing you copying images, maybe.

Keith, Sunday, 8 April 2007 11:45 (seventeen years ago) link

discogs doesn't let you use their images. copy the location and go to imageshack.us

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/4262/r6918171158645127qt9.jpg

jaxon, Sunday, 8 April 2007 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

Magnolia is perfect.

that's not my post, Monday, 24 November 2008 03:08 (fifteen years ago) link

"Let Me Do It To You" = sexiest song ever (in an understated way).

Scott's right: all the '70s stuff is great.

inhibitionist, Monday, 24 November 2008 06:01 (fifteen years ago) link

four years pass...

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10151742219431602&id=41196666601

"We've lost a great artist and a great person tonight. JJ Cale passed away at 8:00 pm on Friday July 26 at Scripps Hospital in La Jolla, CA. He had suffered a heart attack."

This seems like a pretty cold and basic RIP announcement for his official Facebook page to make, and it's still the only source. If true, ;_;

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 27 July 2013 12:38 (ten years ago) link

Fuck, say it ain't so

who killfiled cock robin? (NickB), Saturday, 27 July 2013 13:14 (ten years ago) link

CNN is running with it now: http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/27/showbiz/jj-cale-obit/

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 27 July 2013 13:49 (ten years ago) link

I ran across this as a hoax though I don't know about the source here

http://en.mediamass.net/people/j-j-cale/deathhoax.html

tight in the runs (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 27 July 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link

Those mediamass pages show up after every death. It's basically just a link trap.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 27 July 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link

will always love him. will always be playing his records.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvyLJdTPNWM

scott seward, Saturday, 27 July 2013 14:04 (ten years ago) link

my favorite hometown musician. rip.

mizzell, Saturday, 27 July 2013 14:12 (ten years ago) link

RIP JJ :(

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Saturday, 27 July 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link

"troubadour" is one of the best albums ever. RIP.

Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Saturday, 27 July 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link

Shit, just heard about this from my Dad (who bought loads of JJ Cale stuff when I was a kid).

One of my favourites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZdgnXPg0T0

Hamburglar's smiling too (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 July 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link

just read about this RIP.

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 July 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link

RIP. I just have a best-of collection, but he always seemed to me like this perfectly-formed talent. He had his thing, he knew what it was, he distilled it to a koan-like essence.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 28 July 2013 01:53 (ten years ago) link

RIP...I love his original of "After Midnight", a great 'feel' record: listen to it and you can almost smell the smoke, taste the malts & hops, see some trouble, and know something is gonna happen...Clapton didn't stand a chance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcF1kvlYkrM

Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 28 July 2013 03:04 (ten years ago) link

aw bummer, i need more of his records, but the stuff i know is great. this one is pretty all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6FnMKx5crs

tylerw, Sunday, 28 July 2013 03:14 (ten years ago) link

This is my favorite, but I'm really a fan of everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3QXY8R91LI

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 28 July 2013 03:17 (ten years ago) link

Here's the original 60s version of After Midnight, before he really found his "JJ Cale" thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YUhVU__uPw

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 28 July 2013 03:19 (ten years ago) link

^^Okay, Clapton's arrangement makes more sense now. On the Crossroads box, there's an alternate "Delaney Bramlett mix" of Clapton's version which has a similar (but albeit more OTT) horn arrangement.

Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 28 July 2013 04:26 (ten years ago) link

Very bummed to hear about J. J. this week. Loved a lot of his records, especially the production and sound on weirder minimal tracks like "Let's Go To Tahiti" and "Old Man".

I just read in the NY Times obit that he recorded some of his records by himself. Does anyone know if "Audie Ashworth" is a pseudonym for J. J.?

klangy, Monday, 29 July 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link

yeah was just listening to "Naturally" last night, some pretty early usage of drum machines going on in there, done in a very fun way. obviously dudes like sly stone were using drum machines during the early 70s too, but was there anyone else of cale's ilk doing it? great sound.

tylerw, Monday, 29 July 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link

ten months pass...

man jj cale is so good

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 16:38 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

he is the best. recently spent a couple of stoned nights watching this awesome live in studio vid from 1979 with Leon Russell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaHxPi9dM7o

mizzell, Saturday, 11 October 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link

nice!

tylerw, Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link

lotta talk on other threads, but the new steve gunn has heavy jj vibes

tylerw, Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

didn't know that steve gunn was in a group called golden gunn with some very familiar looking cover art
http://f1.bcbits.com/img/a0036868902_2.jpg

mizzell, Friday, 21 November 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link

yeah it's a low-key collab with the dude from hiss golden messenger -- cool record!
gunn also does crying eyes on the vinyl of Boerum Palace.

tylerw, Friday, 21 November 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link

i'm listening to golden gunn on bandcamp right now, it's got a good vibe, "from a lincoln continental" has almost brightblack morning light levels of grooviness. and it has a great press release.

mizzell, Friday, 21 November 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

I just found Number 10 and this song is fucknuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ4Et6XjAfc

Like I don't even know how to describe it. Terrible title, plodding drum machine, guitars on some Sensations' Fix trip into the ether. It's kind of amazing.

Hamilton, Joe Frank & Two-Thirds of Asphyx (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 27 August 2016 04:11 (seven years ago) link

whoa @ digital blues! such an underrated guitar player

Clapton was God
and the only thing God ever wanted to be was JJ Cale

it's sort of a layered stunt (sheesh), Saturday, 27 August 2016 06:57 (seven years ago) link

ten months pass...

Can anybody tell me what song samples the horns in "Hey Baby"? Google is no help, but I swear I know it's in something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1Nu-nkCxgw

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 10 July 2017 00:22 (seven years ago) link

I looked around and found nothing but it does sound kind of familiar. I wonder if there's another song that has a similar horn part?

Puke and Other Poems (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 07:27 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Spotted this today at a vinyl sale, and wondered what kind of fucknuts twee indie rock it could be...

https://cloud10.todocoleccion.online/discos-vinilo/tc/2019/01/16/18/147210666.jpg

and it's Cale's Naturally. (Apparently the CD has the title on the cover in the corner.)

I've probably thumbed past this record for years.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 February 2019 03:23 (five years ago) link

Hope you bought it and didn't just snap a photo. Cale record prices haven't come back down since his death like I'd expected, so I've been slow to collect them all.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 February 2019 03:29 (five years ago) link

Yeah, $10 in real nice shape. They had a been around the block copy in the 4/$10 bin, but I've been burned there before.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 February 2019 03:36 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

"I'm a Gypsy Man" really brings the motorik and the guitars have such a nice psychedelic sheen. Really good tune.

earlnash, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link

I love that song so much that I awkwardly covered it (and a handful of others of his) a few years ago and put it up on my BC page last year:
https://kunudusuvuntu.bandcamp.com/album/unnaturally

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Thursday, 5 November 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link

loving this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qAK7zylYgk

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 5 November 2020 02:58 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Watched the documentary "To Tulsa and Back: On the Road with JJ Cale" last night off Youtube. It's a good documentary. The German director had a nice eye and captured some real beauty of the road driving out west and other visages found riding with JJ and his band. It does capture a glimpse of what was in Tulsa and what had changed along with giving a sense what John "JJ" Cale was like. JJ Cale seems like a dude who definitely learned how to live to borrow an 'ilx' phrase. EC shows up and says at least one cringeful thing, but the thing I got in a way from him being in the film is you see 'the real deal' and the guy who 'cashed in' on his thing. Would not sweat that though, because if you already dig JJ Cale's music - he is the star of this show.

I just love how JJ has that cheap baseball hat always with him and how he would have it hooked on his belt loop when he wasn't wearing the thing. I've seen some old farmers do that when I was a kid with my papaw like going to this diner as a little kid. (As it was people that still believed you take your hat off when you go inside etc...I don't know it was a little thing that caught with me and gave me a warm chuckle.)

Worth checking out.

earlnash, Saturday, 25 December 2021 11:11 (two years ago) link

seven months pass...

there's something about the fact that most of the jj cale fans i meet are stoner outdoorsy types that makes me think they have it figured out. his music has this quiet confidence that reminds me of nature in so many ways. all his songs are like rivers--the funky ones like some low key rapids, the ones that pull you serenely along on the glassy surface. "precious memories" is like finding to a perfectly secluded pond at dawn, just sort of stumbling into this beautiful, calm thing. "magnolia" might be the best example but there's so much to choose from.

Heez, Friday, 19 August 2022 14:32 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

This guy was so cool for using that rhythm box on Naturally. I'm sure it was partially out of economic necessity, but it made for such a great aesthetic, like a stoned country rock Sly Stone.

I could chill to this all day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZGDPZzVGK4

J. Sam, Friday, 6 January 2023 01:11 (one year ago) link

Maybe "stoned" was redundant there lol

J. Sam, Friday, 6 January 2023 01:18 (one year ago) link

Those early rhythm boxes were a metronome click of their day and was a tool those Tulsa guys at Shelter studios used. I kinda think JJ Cale probably got into using them through doing studio work probably not unlike Sly, who was also a studio musician/engineer.

earlnash, Friday, 6 January 2023 03:11 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

more people should have followed jj around in the 70s. instead of the dead. the cult of jj! one solid tour with jj and you would have been as right as rain.

also, i can't help but think that a JJ Cale/Vini Reilly duo album could have been a wonderful thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaHxPi9dM7o

scott seward, Friday, 5 July 2024 19:15 (one week ago) link

There’s a little crossover. Jerry Garcia Band covered After Midnight throughout their existence. I think JJ hated touring. I don’t think he went in a proper tour until the early 00’s.

bbq, Friday, 5 July 2024 20:44 (one week ago) link

This video is so badass--I'm going on a music-tourist trip to Tulsa next month, in large part b/c of how much I love JJ and Leon.

River Through Howling Ska (Craig D.), Friday, 5 July 2024 21:54 (one week ago) link

Here’s a live show from New Years 1975 in Tulsa. I do believe he plays After Midnight literally after midnight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEBtvUfVwDI

bbq, Saturday, 6 July 2024 05:38 (six days ago) link

If I could have my fantasy baseball band hookup, I would love for somehow in the 70s for John "JJ" Cale to have met John "VU" Cale and somehow hit it off over a bottle and then tour together as the Cale Brothers.

earlnash, Saturday, 6 July 2024 18:05 (six days ago) link


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