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"Dance the Night Away" is currently one of my favourite songs. Upbeat, big chorous, meaty guitar, histrionic vocals...Van Halen are great, they deserve some respect.

jel --, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

True, but it's *ALL* about "Unchained."

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

At one point, some sorta California party dude genius apotheosis of something or other. "Jamie's Cryin'" and "Ain't Talkin' Bout Love" alone -- the Minutemen had no problem covering the latter, neither should anyone else!

Now, a sad dead relic. The fact that Diamond Dave and Sammy Hagar are on a headlining tour together this summer is both hilarious and appropriate.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

fuck van halen go see the atomic punks! http://www.metal- sludge.com/Ralph2.jpg

chaki, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Broken down'n'dirty, dressed in rags, from the day my mama told me "Boy, you pack your bags", We was sittin' ducks for the poh-lease man, they found a dirty-face kid in a garbage can...

dave q, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

'King's Cross Resident Anthem' - At night I walk this stinkin' street, past the crazies on my block, and I see them same old faces, and I hear that same old talk...

dave q, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

As with AC/DC, I'm usually just too lazy to ever buy an album but I plan to get around to it at some point. "Hot For Teacher" is cool guitar-wise except that it's about wanting to bang your teacher which I've never understood and always found gross. "Running With the Devil" is good too.

sundar subramanian, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

ROCK!

Graham, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Ned's analysis, and his picks, are spot-on. AC/DC had better riffs, tho.

Sean, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

Have only just found out why they demanded no brown M&Ms:
http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/vanhalen.asp

stet, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, a lot of the weird things you hear about in riders are for that very reason.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

iggy's rider is a gas. it's online somewhere....

m0stlyClean, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

stet you should read Crazy From The Heat immediately

more funny and original than, 'ow you say, a penis (sic), Friday, 7 August 2009 11:58 (eleven years ago) link

seven months pass...

Home recording of Eddie working out a few ideas in 1974. Some impressive riffing, as well as the genesis of the main riff from "Somebody Get Me a Doctor."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McxV2IZHe2E

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 7 March 2010 18:50 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Wow, did everyone but me know that "I'll Wait" was co-written with Michael McDonald?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 00:59 (nine years ago) link

nice bump, I've been rocking VH in the car all week
what a ridiculous, amazing band

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 01:02 (nine years ago) link

Too bad Mac didn't add backing vocals.

calstars, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 01:06 (nine years ago) link

xxpost that's news to me too, Josh

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 14:17 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.vhnd.com/2011/11/10/van-halen-signs-with-interscope-records/

Van Halen Signs With Interscope Records
Thursday, 10 November 2011

VHND has been hearing some solid info from our trusted sources, and it’s all wonderful news!

Van Halen has recently signed with Interscope Records (not Columbia Records as rumors stated). The album is 100% done and in the can, and fans will have it in their hands early next year. The release date is set in stone and is top secret, but will be announced very soon.

In fact, the Grammys are hinting strongly that Van Halen will make their announcement at the Grammy Nominations Concert held in Los Angeles on November 30th. Fans will be able to watch the announcement live on CBS.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 11 November 2011 16:45 (eight years ago) link

Who's the lead singer nowadays?

van smack, Friday, 11 November 2011 17:01 (eight years ago) link

DLR!

kashi west: late vegetarian (rustic italian flatbread), Friday, 11 November 2011 17:04 (eight years ago) link

Too bad Michael Anthony and the band can't patch things up, because he's integral. But I'll take 3/4ths of the band I grew up on over nothing at all.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 11 November 2011 17:08 (eight years ago) link

Mainly I just want to hear some new EVH riffage. It's been 13 years since the Gary Cherone experiment.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 11 November 2011 17:09 (eight years ago) link

Sadly the 3/4ths only seem about 1/5th there these days.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 11 November 2011 17:12 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Nothing is ever for sure with this band, but tickets for 2012 shows apparently go onsale next week and the image below was shown in Times Square during NYE celebrations on one of the electronic billboards (which must have cost Interscope a bit of coin). Supposedly, it's the release date for the album and closely tied to the album's cover art:

http://image.email.interscope.com/lib/fed11671756d047f/m/1/Van+Halen-+The+Future.jpg

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 04:15 (eight years ago) link

So yeah, the first VH album in 14 years is finally upon us. :D

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 04:16 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Z7mm4qenI

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 04:18 (eight years ago) link

I love the classic lineup and hold out no hope this will be anything but a steaming pile.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:28 (eight years ago) link

really don't understand why Michael Anthony won't just do this

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:30 (eight years ago) link

Haven't really kept up with all the gossip, but is that why? I thought Eddie didn't want him around.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:31 (eight years ago) link

Anthony sided with Hagar in the (second) breakup.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:38 (eight years ago) link

Okay, yeah, I guess I knew that.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:39 (eight years ago) link

I love the classic lineup and hold out no hope this will be anything but a steaming pile.

I'm hopefully if only because of "Me Wise Magic" and "Can't Get This Stuff No More," even if those tracks are from 1996. I think VH and DLR bring the best out of each other.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:40 (eight years ago) link

*hopeful

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:40 (eight years ago) link

that was 15 years ago, and neither would have made any of the first six records (well, maybe Diver Down which is 1/3 filler already). No hope here.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:54 (eight years ago) link

I kinda hope the new album is only a half hour long, like the first six were.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:42 (eight years ago) link

I can't see how this can possibly be good. EVH hasn't written a good song in forever. Hate to say it, but it's true, Chickenfoot is a better band.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:51 (eight years ago) link

i think the production will make or break an album like this, as it usually does when a band comes back with what's essentially their first album together in decades (or at least the first Van Halen bros/DLR album together in decades), since rock production trends have changed so much that could really 'spoil the chemistry' as much as any change in playing or songwriting. the guy they worked with, John Shanks, has a LOT Of teenpop and country and adult contempo stuff on his resume (the only comparable project is the last Bon Jovi album), which is a little sketchy but honestly i could see that working w/ VH better than if they were trying to play catchup with modern rock radio and getting with Brendan O'Brien or something, which I really came to hate about those later Springsteen/E Street albums.

some dude, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:57 (eight years ago) link

yeah I feel like the loudness war is going to get taken to new heights with this album

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:01 (eight years ago) link

Chickenfoot is a better band

I feel like this is maybe the most ridiculous sentence in the English language.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:03 (eight years ago) link

Right now they are. I'd rather listen to Hagar/Anthony/Satriani than Eddie/DLR/that kid.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:06 (eight years ago) link

Last Chickenfoot record was solid.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:13 (eight years ago) link

Listening to it now (first time I've knowingly heard Chickenfoot iirc). First song's alright, but we'll see.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:21 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, this is really too Sammy Hagar-y for my tastes. Soz.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:25 (eight years ago) link

Both Chickenfoot albums are much better than I expected them to be, and the second one is an improvement over the first. By contrast, just knowing that the forthcoming Van Halen single is called "Tattoo" makes me cringe. Unless it turns out to be a tribute to Herve Villechaize. That will be awesome.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:31 (eight years ago) link

The odds of the new VH album being any good are very low. The odds of it even sounding remotely like the classic line-up are virtually nil. The odds of it being better than Chickenfoot are even.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:38 (eight years ago) link

I dunno, the new Devo album was pretty good and their last 2-3 records were terrible

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:40 (eight years ago) link

My take on Chickenfoot was like the infamous 7/11 cocktail: you might be tempted to mix together all the flavors at the soft drink fountain together, once, but damned if you'd take a second dip into that well.

Like Devo, Van Halen is almost its own genre, but unlike Devo, it's beholden to a very particular template, a more unique alchemy linked directly to its set of players, its producer, and its era. How were those Roth-vox tracks on the greatest hits? Never heard 'em.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:45 (eight years ago) link

really don't understand why Michael Anthony won't just do this

As noted, Eddie doesn't want Anthony in the band, only let him play on three tracks since Hagar left, and only accepted him in the last reunion (after Hagar's insistence) on the condition that he 1) agreed to a reduced future royalty split, 2) sign away his share of the name and logo and 3) end all association with the band after the tour. And has since had his son included in the visual lineup for Anthony-recorded tracks on Guitar Hero: Van Halen, even in unlockable "classic line-up" costumes. Aaaand photoshopped his son into Anthony's place on original album covers on Van-Halen.com.

How would you expect Anthony to "just do this"? Turn up at every show and busk in the parking lot outside?

I wish I could find the interview where Eddie brags how awesome Wolfgang is because he locks the bathroom door and jacks off several times a day, but here's:

Wolfie plans to attend college at some point in the future, according to his dad: "He's obviously going to Julliard or something like that — and they'll take him at the drop of a hat, because he is ready. And the kid can act, too." But for now? "He is a part of Van Halen. Permanently."

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 23:06 (eight years ago) link

I just listened to Dreams for the first time in forever and whoever said it sounded like an Air Force commercial is otmfm.

I do love this song, actually. It's more like decent Journey.

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 23:51 (two weeks ago) link

The Onion used the band as fodder for some seriously good yuks...

http://www.theonion.com/jamie-crying-1819564111
http://entertainment.theonion.com/cia-admits-role-in-1985-coup-to-oust-david-lee-roth-1819577255
http://politics.theonion.com/clinton-hagar-meet-to-discuss-federal-speed-limit-issu-1819564715

But my favorite was when they just had a headline without a story:
"Sammy Hagar Discovers Second Way to Rock"

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:22 (two weeks ago) link

like decent Journey

i know you didn't mean it as a slam but this is ice fucking cold

also, lol

mookieproof, Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:29 (two weeks ago) link

i mean wait til dee snyder hears about *this*

mookieproof, Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:30 (two weeks ago) link

i for one am outraged

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 October 2020 01:10 (two weeks ago) link

LMAO Croz didn't remember he just died so full of shit

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 October 2020 01:57 (two weeks ago) link

He may be drug free now but his brain's been high since 1975

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 October 2020 02:01 (two weeks ago) link

worst backpedal ever #choad

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 October 2020 03:17 (two weeks ago) link

“i didnt say meh. i said yeh! i was misquoted”

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 October 2020 03:18 (two weeks ago) link

I'm no fan of Crosby, but everyone on twitter knows that if you ask his opinion on just about any musician that he doesn't personally know, you're gonna get some shit talking. It's the only reason anyone asks him these questions. He, as expected, took the bait. I think it's stupid to get mad at how his game works, even if I vehemently disagree with his dumb ass 99% of the time.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 15 October 2020 03:20 (two weeks ago) link

hey look i just enjoy openly hating him, it’s my right as an American

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 October 2020 03:24 (two weeks ago) link

lol fair

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 15 October 2020 03:28 (two weeks ago) link

absolutely need to hear VG's american accent now

mookieproof, Thursday, 15 October 2020 03:39 (two weeks ago) link

YALL CAYNT HANDLE IT

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 October 2020 04:15 (two weeks ago) link

Crosby still more likable than Stills or Nash.

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 15 October 2020 04:15 (two weeks ago) link

Anyway guy’s answering like a hundred Twitter questions a day, who cares

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 15 October 2020 04:17 (two weeks ago) link

teach the Tweeters well

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 October 2020 04:45 (two weeks ago) link

I love their music to this day but to a man all 3 are all monstrous assholes in their own magical ways.

but i digress

tell me more about how van hagar sounds like “decent” journey

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 October 2020 05:05 (two weeks ago) link

Just that song, maybe one or two others. Most of it sounds like crap Journey imo.

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 October 2020 05:26 (two weeks ago) link

is Nash bad? never heard much about him

he didn't come off bad in Shakey which is where I learned the most about CSN

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 October 2020 13:02 (two weeks ago) link

I think I mainly don't like him for talking shit abt Crazy Horse, but also always sleeping w/ people's wives

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 15 October 2020 13:12 (two weeks ago) link

He was a steadfast friend for many years to Crosby when nobody else could handle the guy anymore, so I retract. I just think his music is boring.

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 15 October 2020 13:15 (two weeks ago) link

The only thing I know about Nash is the Innocent Eyes video starring John Ritter, which is a stone classic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KwQORT1T6k

peace, man, Thursday, 15 October 2020 14:06 (two weeks ago) link

That might be the most '80s song/video combo ever. It could literally be by anyone/everyone.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 October 2020 14:27 (two weeks ago) link

I think I mainly don't like him for talking shit abt Crazy Horse, but also always sleeping w/ people's wives

― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, October 15, 2020 8:12 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

crosby's so fucking foul this is like eagle scout material in comparison

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 October 2020 15:20 (two weeks ago) link

Good piece in the LA Times about the early Pasadena days

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-10-15/eddie-van-halen-david-lee-roth-pasadena-high-school

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 October 2020 16:25 (two weeks ago) link

I live close to that liquor store at Allen and Villa, and walked over last weekend. About a dozen people there, and someone left a Fender Squire (the type that sold for < $100 at Guitar Center) on the sidewalk where Eddie's "Van Halen" was written. Then I walked to the house and there were people there too.

nickn, Thursday, 15 October 2020 16:48 (two weeks ago) link

Great piece. RIP Eddie.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 15 October 2020 17:17 (two weeks ago) link

Finally saw Van Halen at Staples Center in 2007 and it...wasn't amazing, thinking back. Still happy to have seen them in some capacity.

Fast forward to 2017, Metallica at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena. They did a brief, "impromptu" cover of Running With The Devil which I found endearing.

DT, Friday, 16 October 2020 18:23 (one week ago) link

my wife and I were visiting LA for a week in spring 15. Driving around listening to shitty LA rock radio, I kept hearing references to Van Halen playing the Sunset Strip… so we figured out that they were to play outside on the strip for the Fallon show the night before we were to go back to NYC. I had never seen any version of the band, so I really felt that we had to see this…my wife does not in fact like VH; she would have been psyched were it GnR or Poison or the Crue…but she was game. A fancy showrunner buddy we were visiting the night before called his pal at the Fallon show to get us some, ahem, elite access, which amounted to showing up to a tent a few blacks away three hours before VH was to hit; we were eventually herded with about 50 not important enough people some 200 yards from the stage, behind hundreds of people who had been waiting in line all day. Frankie Banali was waiting among us, so was Scott Ian, but he was spirited away, maybe to where someone like Dave Grohl would be, on a roof in an expensive chair getting a foot massage.

No beer, no refreshment, no nothing to take the edge off. VH didn't start playing when they were sposed to, so we had to be "entertained" by this bald warm-up guy who shouted like Kinison… it was very trying. 1 and half hour late, they hit the stage. And so this was the infamous incident in which DLR did a sword dance while the band was gearing up "panama," hit himself on the nose. started bleeding and abandoned ship during the solo, leaving the band to pedal around the "runnin' a little hot tonight" breakdown, Eddie skreeing and skrawing, for 10 minutes…

Then Roth returns and they start the song over…this destroyed any momentum for me, and they played like the state fair Roth era set. With "Ain't Talkin" launching, I said "fuck this," my wife said "and how," and we went to Chateau Marmont to meet up with Fact checkin' Cuz.

veronica moser, Friday, 16 October 2020 19:29 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib3nuHsiG_Y

veronica moser, Friday, 16 October 2020 19:30 (one week ago) link

A+ anecdote

logout option: disabled (Matt #2), Friday, 16 October 2020 19:31 (one week ago) link

And that's why you don't play with swords.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 October 2020 19:49 (one week ago) link

Man, I always forget that DLR is practically covered with tattoos.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 October 2020 19:51 (one week ago) link

the kimmel show, goddamnmit…

veronica moser, Friday, 16 October 2020 19:53 (one week ago) link

DLR looks like a younger Stephen Miller.

Quiet Storm Thorgerson (PBKR), Friday, 16 October 2020 20:41 (one week ago) link

With the help of George Lopez, Sammy and Eddie were able to reconcile:

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/george-lopez-sammy-hagar-eddie-van-halen/

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 17 October 2020 22:31 (one week ago) link

I don't think this gets said enough, but Eddie is a trip on headphones.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 October 2020 20:54 (one week ago) link

Also: The secret genius of "I'll Wait" is that it's VH doing their take on "The Model".

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 October 2020 21:00 (one week ago) link

I'll Wait is so good. They had the sense to leave a lot of space, that eerie synth sound and the big booming drums, way different that how most big rock acts tried to embrace new wave

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 October 2020 15:42 (six days ago) link

I'll Wait is so good. They had the sense to leave a lot of space, that eerie synth sound and the big booming drums, way different that how most big rock acts tried to embrace new wave

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 October 2020 15:42 (six days ago) link

really excited about this. I do a music podcast and Greg Renoff (Van Halen Rising author) gave us 2 hours of his time. so many cool tidbits on the band and its history, great guy

Did you know: Eddie Van Halen’s Eruption, the searing solo heard ‘round the world, almost didn’t make the album. @gregrenoff joins @matthelgeson and @nintendufus for a new Van Halen episode of CrossFade!https://t.co/RrDA2l5naw pic.twitter.com/WNxb7AbmIM

— MinnMax (@MinnMaxShow) October 23, 2020

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 October 2020 17:42 (six days ago) link

i only saw Eddie Van Halen once, at Neil Young’s Bridge Benefit show in like 92 or 93? It was the end of the night and Simon & Garfunkel were doing “sound of silence”... Eddie stumbles out from backstage and (drunkenly?) attempts to accompany them on guitar. it was ridiculous and I was just happy he was there.

brimstead, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 00:42 (two days ago) link

anybody else at that show?

brimstead, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 00:42 (two days ago) link

did he add a tapping solo over it?

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 00:44 (two days ago) link

Lol at the image of EVH interjecting a full Eruption style solo, divebombs and all, into the middle of SOS

Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 00:46 (two days ago) link

Wow. It's almost a shreds video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0y3o3zXFBA

peace, man, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 00:48 (two days ago) link

haha half of that solo isn't even in key

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 00:59 (two days ago) link

Ha, that's an infamous mess.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 01:07 (two days ago) link

shades of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkV5XqEd2Do

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 01:11 (two days ago) link


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