Blue Oyster Cult: Classic or Dud?

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Former rock critics wrote lyrics with them (Richard Meltzer, Patti Smith, Sandy Pearlman).

I always thought BOC was a much better band on record than on stage.

Live, the band always just sounded like another 70s rock boogie band. But the recording studio always seemed to be the place where they shined most (Agents of Fortune, Spectres, Mirrors).

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rockcrit88, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

Love BOC about as much as I hate 'em. Horribly uneven band. Some great, great songs, but even their best albums are patchy. Never saw 'em live, and the live recordings I've heard haven't convinced me I missed much.

I'll say classic just out of fascination with perversity. But it seems like futile gesture.

Pye Poudre, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/-marhari-/MoreCowbell.jpg

NYCNative, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

Secret Treaties is very classic.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

classic. one of my fave bands. buy all of these:


Blue Öyster Cult
Tyranny and Mutation
Secret Treaties
Agents of Fortune
Spectres
Mirrors
Cultösaurus Erectus
Fire of Unknown Origin
The Revölution by Night



and *on your feet or on your knees* too.

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

Should've been classic, given their obvious intelligence, humor (some of their song titles are laugh-out-loud funny), and taste in collaborators. But aside from a handful of classic tunes, I haven't found much there after years of trying to like them. I think they sold 999 records to bongloading teens for every one they sold to someone who "got" them.

Although, Buck Dharma (nee Donald Roeser) has to be one of the top 10 rock pseudonyms of all time.

The Deacon, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

Scott and Trip Maker OTM, everyone else not. If you have to spend time worrying about whether or not people liked them for the right reasons, you need another hobby yo. Plus: bongloading teens are people too!

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

Their records sound good and sometimes give me gigglefits.

good enough for me.

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

bombers at 12 o'clock high!

BOC was awesome...never really a heavy-metal band, they were more rooted in boogie ("Red And Black", "Dominance & Submission", "I'm On The Lamb But I Ain't No Sheep") and pop ("Celestial The Queen", "Goin' Through The Motions")...excellent ballads, too ("I Love The Night", "Debby Denise", "In Thee")...I could go on and on...Eric Bloom's vocals were always a bit overwrought, but during the span cited by scott above, they could do little wrong...

henry s, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

Stalk-Forrest Group album is my favorite. OK, I've said it before!

U know it bears repeating!

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

Classic. A solid hard-rock band and the first meta-metal band, and almost unfailingly funny. Sort of the Dictators of arena rock.

fife, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.hotrails.co.uk/images/intro/newcastle75.jpg

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.everythingsg.com/celebs/abouchard.jpg

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.everythingsg.com/celebs/BOC-tour1.jpg

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.everythingsg.com/celebs/dharma1.jpg

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

Does anyone know if any of the recordings of them with Les Braunstein on vocals (Soft White Underbelly sessions - 1st attempt at LP for Elektra) have ever surfaced?

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

Steve Holtje got into an argument on someone's Blog recently in response to an article about Hipster Metal that went something like this:

Blogger: Hipster Metal is ironic and real metal was never ironic.
Steve: BOC was metal and ironic!
Blogger: They were not metal but I'll give you ironic.

I was with Steve on this one. Sure BOC had some non-metal moments but at the time they were deemed metal and how can you not call a band metal when they definied it in their prime?

NYCNative, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

Everyone at the time would have called BOC metal, same as early Led Zeppelin. In the 80s metal became a social category whose gatekeepers had to weed out the non-purists. Retroactively a lot of 70s bands didn't seem to make the cut.

fife, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

Search these for sure :

Stalk-Forrest Group album
Blue Oyster Cult
Tyranny & Mutation
Secret Treaties
Agents of Fortune (side 1)

and about a couple of albums worth of odd tracks from the rest. Imaginos was way underwhelming when it finally came out, too much fucking Aldo Nova. I didn't see them till the 1980's by which time it was merely fair-to-middling.

Any love for Club Ninja?

Matt #2, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

I think BOC saw themselves as heavy metal in the Burroughsian sense rather than the arena rock sense. Sandy Pearlman did anyway.

Matt #2, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

Whatever that means.

Matt #2, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

OK - for me that involved a narrowing of the aesthetic. Meltzer has said likewise, I think, or something related. That is why Stalk-Forrest Group album feels fresh to me while the later albums, much as I might like things on 'em, feel boxed in.

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

And even Stalk-Forrest Group album has too much west coast stonerism going on, really.

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

You can have too much?

Matt #2, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

SO classic. The American Black Sabbath couldn't match Sabbath's metal purity and conviction, but they made up for it in variety, singing, lyrics (thanks to those collaborators), melody, humour, arcane mysterioso dread, all that. And unlike Sabbath, they eventually succumbed to clueless AOR crap ("Burnin' For You" was superior AOR crap), but at least they had 10 good years.

(Sorry if I'm just repeating stuff already said on this thread - can't read it thoroughly while the teacher's looking)

Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

I saw BOC live last year, doing the state fair rounds. they know what they are, a jukebox fulla great tunes, and they delivered. they even did "shooting shark" and "veteran of the psychic wars".

when they launched into "godzilla" crowd members young and old became a sea of stomping, bobbing heads. I don't care what year yr in, that's heavy and it's metal.

a buddy of mine's been working on an article on them. he's a freelancer but he doesn't usually do music stuff so he's not even sure where to shop it. he just likes the band and it was an excuse to interview Eric Bloom. anybody got any tips?

Edward III, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

I'm looking at about three shows this year -- Rochester, Naperville, and there was one other one I was eyeing, i'd have to check their website.

anyway, obviously totally classic, and still a good live show.

Surely there are about 10 BOC threads already?

Stormy Davis, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

that's what i thought, but there isn't an actual C&D/S&D thread.

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

though there are other threads.

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

I think the game plan was to send up genre conventions (solos, occultism, arena banter) and make a quick buck off of them. Within those limitations they were good.

fife, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

Classic! I've been listening to Agents of Fortunes, Spectres, and Cultosaurus Erectus on a fairly heavy rotation the last couple weeks. And I have a little bit of love for Club Ninja. "Perfect Water" and "Dancing in the Ruins" are both great. I wrote a little thing about why I like them on my music blog:

Why the fascination with azure mollusk fanatics? Well, they were one of the first bands that I sort of stumbled upon following the inevitable "wait, Dave Matthews Band and Hootie & The Blowfish sort of suck, I wonder what else is out there" revelation. I mean, besides the obvious stuff like Black Sabbath and Guns and Roses. This was a band that I found myself! Well, I probably found it through hearing the song "Godzilla" in a great music video on the late, lamented TNT show Monster Vision, but you get the idea. That lead me to believe that they were a joke band, but I purchased the excellent two-disc anthology Workshop of the Telescopes on a whim, and loved it. Hell, by this point I've worn out the second disc, the one with all their poppy stuff on it. Basically, what I love about Blue Oyster Cult is that they were probably the smartest 70s hard rock/proto-metal band. Alice Cooper was clever, sure, Black Sabbath were scary, Deep Purple more overdriven, KISS bigger dumber fun, Led Zeppelin just more, but BOC were the most articulate and intelligent lyricists. Plus, they had great tunes and hooks, definitely a bonus. It probably helped that they had music critics and brilliant sci-fi/fantasy author Michael Moorcock writing for them. Unfortunately, they were probably too smart for their own good, to the point of obtuseness. They should have put on makeup and sung about girls instead. Probably would've been much bigger.

Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

I have been reading Martin Popoff's BOC book in the bathroom lately. You can tell he's a fan. It's mostly quotes from the band and other hanger-ons and it does a nice job of discussing the good, bad and ugly periods for the band.

Oh, my favorite BOC song is probably not the favorite of many: "Take Me Away."

NYCNative, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

You can have too much?

-- Matt #2, Tuesday, April 3, 2007 11:07 AM (41 minutes ago)

I'm certainly more likely to listen to "Arthur Comics" than to "A Fact About Sneakers."

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

"Arthur Comics" is kind of real early American proto-punk, isn't it? Like Hackamore Brick and stuff.

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

"Does anyone know if any of the recordings of them with Les Braunstein on vocals (Soft White Underbelly sessions - 1st attempt at LP for Elektra) have ever surfaced?"

Being the pathetic BOC fan I am, I searched thoroughly for them but I never found anything.

Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

"Arthur Comics" is kind of real early American proto-punk, isn't it? Like Hackamore Brick and stuff"

Obviously yes - all these bands drew from the same secret source.

Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

If I remember right, he may not have put much of anything down in the studio. I think that's where they got hung up.

x-post

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

Never read the Popoff book but the most exhaustive account of the band's history I've ever seen was the cover story of Goldmine a few years ago .. maybe 1999 or 2000? Anyway, just a massive article, it was like 20 pages before you even got to the switch from Stalk-Forrest to BOC...

Stormy Davis, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

Seeing Myonga refer to B.O.C. as The American Black Sabbath reminded me of a theory I cooked up a little while back about B.O.C. being The American Hawkwind

Why-

1. Some Sci-Fi mythology (altough certainly less so for BOC)
2. Two biggest hits not sung by lead singer (BOC-"Reaper" & "Burnin'" sung by Roeser. Hawkwind-"Silver Machine" sung by Lemmy & "Quark..." by Bob Calvert) Which leads to...
3. Literary Connections (BOC-Pearlman, Meltzer & Patti Smith. Hawkwind-Michael Moorcock & Bob Calvert)
4. BOOGIE!
5. LASERS!

C. Grisso/McCain, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

BOC also had Moorcock.

Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

But there's a serious lead guitar disparity between the two.

fife, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

they also shared the same listserv email group way back in the day! the BOC/Hawkwind list. Good times. Albert Bouchard and Deb Frost used to post to it once in a very blue moon.

Stormy Davis, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

i gotz love for Club Ninja! i bought that cassette when i was a kid. didn't know shit abt BOC, so it was the first one i heard...Dancin' in the Ruins is a great slab of AOR!

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

I think they were the best American band of the 1970s. How about that, fuckers. Better than Utopia, even.

Great tunes, excellent feel, great harmony vocals - occasionally they sound like the heavy metal byrds, & what on earth could possibly be better than that, eh?

Buck Dharma is an awesome, underrated lead guitarist, as well.

I saw them live w/aldo nova supporting - I'm pretty sure it was the tour for "Club Ninja", as it happens. All the reviews in "sounds" etc were like "they're past their prime, yawn, avoid", I was dreading it, a bit but they tore the place up, once they got going they were like this unstoppable machine, they could have gone on all night for me.

One track by them I absolutely love is off "Imaginos" (which is pretty ropey otherwise) - "I am the one you warned me of", what a fucking track! Does anyone else dig that one?

I don't normally go in for rock-list-o-philia, but if I had to name my 5 favourite bands, BOC would make the list, easily.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

I named my band's second album "Buck Dharma" in tribute (the resulting confusion on the Amazon page is pure hilarity worthy of The Onion), so you know where I stand.

To answer Matt's question, Club Ninja has it's moments. The production is actually not horrible for a mid-80s album, and "Dancin In The Ruins" is a killer song. I haven't heard it in a long time, but I remember it rather fondly. Then, I was nine when it came out.

All things considered, the Stalk Forrest Group album, after hearing about it for so many years, left me slightly underwhelmed.

Manalishi, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

Somewhere on ILM is a post about one of my favorite concert experiences: fIREHOSE opening up for Blue Oyster Cult at a dead movie theater in Riverside sometime in 1987. Watt babbled about opening up for his heroes and even wore his old Secret Treaties shirt.

BOC hadn't released an album in years (Imaginos doesn't really count), there was maybe 30 people in the audience, the Bouchard brothers were long gone, and the soundsystem was mostly crap so the first third of the show was slogging pretty badly until Eric Bloom went on this five minute berserk rant about frustration, UFOs, being "On Tour Forever," paranoia, shitty gigs, etc. etc. that blew up into an AMAZING version of "Take Me Away" that simultaneously blew out the cobwebs and gave them a full tank of rocket fuel because the rest of the gig was the LA Forum in 1975, even if there weren't any lasers.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

"BOC hadn't released an album in years (Imaginos doesn't really count), there was maybe 30 people in the audience"

30 people to see BOC + fIREHOSE?!
that's crazy.

Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

I heard one of their newer albums from 1999 or so, it was bloody awful. Just sounded like Magnum or something. Here's a band that needs to realise that the wheel has turned, and they could get a whole new younger audience if they went back to basics.

My BOC gameplan :

1. Get the proper line-up back together, burying the hatchet if necessary.
2. Do one of those Don't Look Back-type tours, playing the first 3 albums in their entirety.
3. Record a new album with whoever produces Witchcraft or someone like that, with Sandy Pearlman and / or sci-fi authors writing all the lyrics.
4. Clean up (hopefully).

They could still tour state fairs in the summer too, who'd know? Anyway, none of this'll ever happen more's the pity. I may have to start a tribute band instead.

Matt #2, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

I always thought that Radio Birdman were heavily influenced by Blue Oyster Cult.

Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

5. Bring back the giant paper-mache Godzilla headpiece during the drum solo.

fife, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

i wonder if he knows don deitrich of borbatmagus, maybe they talk shop

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:22 (two years ago) link

The real Sharona from 'My Sharona' is a big time realtor.

http://www.mysharona.com/about/about-sharona/

earlnash, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:50 (two years ago) link

So are Neil Smith, the "platinum god" drummer of the original Alice Cooper group, and Bill Janovitz (Buffalo Tom.)

henry s, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 23:33 (two years ago) link

Gretchen from Mary's Danish is also a real estate agent. I think someone from Social Distortion is too.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 20 January 2017 05:14 (two years ago) link

There was a funny SNL skit some years back, Rob Schneider (if memory serves) played a former hair metal singer turned real estate agent. Hilarity ensued.

henry s, Friday, 20 January 2017 14:03 (two years ago) link

Joking aside it makes a lot of sense there aren't a lot of careers where you can make a lot of money (potentially) that you can enter later in life and without a degree, so for ppl that spent a lot of their working years chasing music I could see the appeal. Also it's a flexible hours thing if you want to keep playing

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 January 2017 14:08 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

They’re OK, the last days of May
But I’ll be breathin’ dry air
I'm leaving soon
The others are already there (all there...)
Wouldn’t be interested in coming along
Instead of staying here?
It's said the West is nice this time of year
That's what they say

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 31 May 2018 15:32 (one year ago) link

when i last saw them play, Buck did a KILLLLERRR solo on that tune

by sheer coincidence, I'm bumping BOC today for the first time in awhile. Cultosaurus Erectus. So fucking good. Them and martin birch were a match made in heaven.

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:22 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

tyranny and mutation is so fucking fast

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 11 November 2018 16:15 (eleven months ago) link

two months pass...

eric was interviewed on his home turf.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAEdzkpN6oo

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 14 January 2019 21:42 (nine months ago) link

ooh thanks!

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Monday, 14 January 2019 21:46 (nine months ago) link

three weeks pass...

"What is your favorite word: ROCKIN"

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:57 (eight months ago) link

like they even had to ask.

Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 9 February 2019 12:30 (eight months ago) link

four months pass...

"I Love the Night" is so gorgeous

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 June 2019 17:33 (three months ago) link

yes!!! my favorite böc song

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 June 2019 18:36 (three months ago) link

I can't decide which is the superior of the two vampire jams on Spectres, this or Nosferatu.

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Thursday, 27 June 2019 19:18 (three months ago) link

BOC is never really recognized for their harmony singing, but they are so amazing at it, like the "I....I.....I....love the night" stacked harmonies or the beginning of Golden Age of Leather, Beach Boys level

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 June 2019 20:25 (three months ago) link

in the mainstream BOC isn't taken seriously or recognized for anything beyond the hits, a couple of which are maybe regarded as borderline novelty songs. But I mean they're no more of a joke band than The Beatles, or any number of other all-time bands, many of which they're considerably better than.

omar little, Thursday, 27 June 2019 20:45 (three months ago) link

tyranny and mutation should be the gold standard of how to play rock music

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 June 2019 20:50 (three months ago) link

yeah I listen to these records and I always notice something new they are extraordinary well crafted rock records

also Buck is consistently left off greatest guitarist rock lists and seeing him live he is godlike

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 June 2019 20:51 (three months ago) link

also they are so strange.... like not in an avant garde way but so quirky and distinctive they go from off the shelf boogie to occult weirdness on a dime

like RU Ready to Rock that odd, mournful round of "I only live to be born again" that comes from nowhere in an arena rocker

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 June 2019 20:54 (three months ago) link

I mean they're no more of a joke band than The Beatles

I enjoy me some BOC, but any band that records "Godzilla" is at least one of the greatest joke bands of all time, even if the fans are (?) often in on it.

The band is definitely weird, jumping from boogie butt rock to psychedelic neo-prog to an extent that I've never been able to really wrap my head (as a modest fan) around the love many have for them, save for the fact that there's not much to hate. Which is enough! Like, Lynyrd Skynyrd is an incredible band with incredible songs, objectively better than BOC (imo), but I can see why the band could turn some people off. Same with, I dunno, Rush. But BOC is just so goofy and under the radar, *despite* at least a couple of ubiquitous hits. They're like the best known best kept secret.

Hmm, speaking of Skynyrd, has "more cowbell?" supplanted "Freebird" as the thing dummies yell out?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 June 2019 21:11 (three months ago) link

Agents and Spectres are so wonderfully all over the place..."True Confessions" and "Debby Denise" are basically doo wop, "Celestial the Queen" and "E.T.I." power pop, and "Goin' Through The Motions" is Mott The Hoople circa "Roll Away The Stone" (appropriately co-penned by Ian Hunter)..."Tenderloin" could easily fit in on a Fleetwood Mac album of that era...

henry s, Thursday, 27 June 2019 21:57 (three months ago) link

They're one of those bands where their signature song is pretty much atypical of their ouevre in general, Focus is another I guess. For some reason I still can't remember a note of Cultosaurus Erectus despite having played it a bunch of times over the last few decades, maybe it's just not for me.

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Thursday, 27 June 2019 22:10 (three months ago) link

Mirrors was spotty, but Erectus started a run of really bad albums, as far as I'm concerned. It's a long way from "Morning Final" to "The Marshall Plan"!

henry s, Friday, 28 June 2019 00:10 (three months ago) link

They’re so thrilling at their best. on your feet or on your knees is mad good hard rock

brimstead, Friday, 28 June 2019 00:27 (three months ago) link

but Erectus started a run of really bad albums, as far as I'm concerned

henry fire of unknown origin is an amazing album

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:32 (three months ago) link

Yeah, "Veteran" is among my favourite BOC songs.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 28 June 2019 01:01 (three months ago) link

This thread revival has made me put on "The Red and the Black" and I thank you for that.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 June 2019 01:29 (three months ago) link

I think I was first introduced to that song via fIREHOSE.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 June 2019 01:36 (three months ago) link

I'm listening to Secret Treaties right now and goddamn how did they do this?

perfection

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 June 2019 04:57 (three months ago) link

also "Deadline" is a great sleeper off Cultoraurus Erectus

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 June 2019 04:58 (three months ago) link

Oh man Deadline is my favorite track on that album, brilliant song

I came across a copy of The Fireclown at a book fair today and bought it for the insane cover illustration. Consequently had “The Great Sun Jester” stuck in my head the rest of the day.

Which is funny cause I had “pret-ty girls can’t look aWAY” stuck in my head this morning after I was thinking about the subject of body dysmorphia. Mirrors is the least of the original 8 record hot streak to me but I guess today was a Mirrors kind of day.

BOC are a kind of touchstone for me, such a perfect blend of lame-cool dumb-deep. When I had to fly to MN a few weeks ago to take my mom to the hospital and I thought she might die I put on my lil BOC symbol pendant before going to the airport.

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 30 June 2019 02:25 (three months ago) link

They’re so thrilling at their best. on your feet or on your knees is mad good hard rock

i like the live Days of May way better than the studio version - my fave track on the album. Buck's solo is inspired! And his solo at the end of Subhuman burns my ears (in the best way). Some Enchanted Evening is better though in some ways (except for the lousy We Gotta Get Out of This Place) - the live Astronomy is awesome, and their Kick Out the Jams is KILL!

Ornette is blowing bubblegum spiderwebs (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 30 June 2019 16:47 (three months ago) link

When I saw them live (the anniversary show promoting the box set) last days of may was a big highlight. Buck’s solo was *mwah*

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 30 June 2019 17:06 (three months ago) link

yeah Last Days of May is the signature guitar showcase in the set

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 July 2019 00:46 (three months ago) link

All the foregoing comments OTM. I was just thinking about *Some Enchanted Evening* the other day. Not their best live album for sure, but super interesting that the two covers are both obviously and deliberately chosen Vietnam songs -- one the most popular for the soldiers in Vietnam (We gotta get out of this place) and the other the signature song of the Chicago 68 protests (Kick Out the Jams)

stop torturing me ethel (broom air), Monday, 1 July 2019 01:13 (three months ago) link

"lame-cool dumb-deep" as mentioned above is like the best thing classic rock can do, looking forward to diving in beyond the hits

global tetrahedron, Monday, 1 July 2019 01:51 (three months ago) link

i was at one of the gigs where they recorded "on your feet." 10/5/74 at the academy of music. the opening act was triumverat, sort of an ELP knockoff, though apparently it was originally supposed to have been t rex. that would have been preferable.

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 1 July 2019 11:10 (three months ago) link

The older I get, the higher this show goes on my "best shows ever" list...

Somewhere on ILM is a post about one of my favorite concert experiences: fIREHOSE opening up for Blue Oyster Cult at a dead movie theater in Riverside sometime in 1987. Watt babbled about opening up for his heroes and even wore his old Secret Treaties shirt.

BOC hadn't released an album in years (Imaginos doesn't really count), there was maybe 30 people in the audience, the Bouchard brothers were long gone, and the soundsystem was mostly crap so the first third of the show was slogging pretty badly until Eric Bloom went on this five minute berserk rant about frustration, UFOs, being "On Tour Forever," paranoia, shitty gigs, etc. etc. that blew up into an AMAZING version of "Take Me Away" that simultaneously blew out the cobwebs and gave them a full tank of rocket fuel because the rest of the gig was the LA Forum in 1975, even if there weren't any lasers.

― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, April 3, 2007 1:30 PM (twelve years ago)

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 02:38 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

damn that sounds good

a perfect blend of lame-cool dumb-deep

this is a great capsule description tbh, whenever i try to explain why BOC is great to people I always run up against a wall there.

With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 29 July 2019 06:44 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Frontenac Chateau, baby

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 September 2019 21:43 (one month ago) link

Playing the Big E on 9/15 and Staten Island in October. I am certainly going to one of those.

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 5 September 2019 22:07 (one month ago) link

Saw them a few weeks ago, and they so good that they shamed all the other geezer pleaser bands on the festival bill. They played The Vigil, Dancing in the Ruins, Harvest Moon, Hot Rails to Hell, it just blew my mind. Buck was sublime on guitar.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 5 September 2019 22:32 (one month ago) link

Hell yes I’m up for some Vigil

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 5 September 2019 23:43 (one month ago) link

Buck's still one of the best guitarists on Earth

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 September 2019 03:45 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

been doing a discography run. is every böc album good? i'm on club ninja and it's fantastic

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 29 September 2019 23:13 (three weeks ago) link

Club Ninja has some really hokey moments ("Beat 'em Up" is pop metal trip by periodic Judas Priest collaborator Bob Halligan Jr., also recorded by Lee Aaron in 1985) but "Dancing in the Ruins is perfect. One of BÖC's absolute best tracks.

I've been super obsessed with 1998's Heaven Forbid album lately, especially "Harvest Moon", which is one of the best autumn songs I have ever heard.

A. Begrand, Monday, 30 September 2019 00:54 (three weeks ago) link

Heaven Forbid has several great tracks but yeah harvest moon is the crown gem

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Monday, 30 September 2019 02:45 (three weeks ago) link

This thread also illustrates the shameful decline of Photobucket. It was horrible even during its heyday, but it has turned into something worse than death. The picture of Christopher Walken has a massive watermark and covered in blur. It's like Atonement, or the old practice of building churches on top of pagan monuments.

Something remains of the original, but it's distorted and blurred. Perhaps that's what the owners of Photobucket are trying to tell us. Perhaps Photobucket is actually an art project on the theme of transience and the impossibility of history. What's to say that the blurred, watermarked Walken isn't his true form? What if the pristine, non-watermarked Walken of 2007 was the aberration? What did the people of 2007 know, anyway? Why should we let them form the dominant narrative? It's 2019, and the present belongs to us.

Ashley Pomeroy, Monday, 30 September 2019 17:15 (three weeks ago) link


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