NEIL YOUNG ARCHIVES BOX: IT'S REALLY HAPPENING

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i've seriously been waiting for most of my adult life for this.

dudez i'm so fucking stoked.

8 CD? 2 DVDS? shut yo mouth neil! step the fuck back, man, headz ain't ready for the shit you got...headz ain't ready man i swear they're not!

awesome.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'll believe it when I see it on the shelves. But yeah, it does look pretty awesome. And this one just goes up to 1972? Ha ha. Anyone have any idea how much this will cost me?

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

I've been working at the studio where they've been preparing this. I practically jumped out of my skin when I saw the room with all the original tape reels. this is gonna be great.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

i think there are blurbs about it in the new archives Massey Hall CD (which is *sublime)

stevie, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

wow really? any tidbits of info you'd like to share? I'm really hoping for "Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere" and "After The Gold Rush" outtakes...

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

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tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

oh shit! footage from journey through the past! might he actually release the HDCD or the actual film on this? I've been kinda obsessed with that album for the past month.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

These things are going to be so awesome, although I'm still pretty skeptical considering how long they've been in the works. I remember when he first set up a website to hype these, I think I first saw it in, what, '98? But yeah, I am so thrilled to think these may actually see release soon. I just hope they aren't insanely expensive.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

they're kinda understandably paranoid about the material and people stealing stuff so I didn't really pry. The studio's done the last few DVDs for Neil so there's some funny stories (band calling studio to see if anybody has any weed, etc.). This is all second-hand though, I've yet to meet the actual engineers involved with the archives project.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

x-post

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

So yeah, I think it has literally been 20 years since Shakey started talking about this project. Am I right in thinking that the audio portion of the box set will be all studio recordings (since the Performance Series single discs are covering the live shows)? An actual release of "Journey Through the Past" would be cool. I don't care how bad it is--it's got to be better than "Human Highway", right?

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

they're kinda understandably paranoid about the material and people stealing stuff so I didn't really pry.

understandable. but your first name *is* shakey after all, that should earn you some pull over there.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

An actual release of "Journey Through the Past" would be cool. I don't care how bad it is

it's actually really really good! totally corrosive version of "ohio", and the last half is like some messed-up audio collage that includes field recordings and a hypnotic 16 minute version of "words". I loves it. it smells like history.

but neil's such a heartbreaker, he'll probably put everything out *except* that.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

i have journey through the past on vinyl, it's good.

the real tragedy of neil's back catalog though is "time fades away" being out of print.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah Time Fades Away is one of my favorites. "Yonder Stands the Sinner"!

but then I also like "Human Highway".

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I've got Journey Through the Past on record as well--I was talking about the movie...will that ever see the light of day again? And yes, it is fairly ridiculous that Neil has never gotten around to issuing Time Fades Away on CD---it's one of his best albums! For serious.

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

since this is actually on the label's website I would be surprised if it doesn't come out now. It would be nice if he'd reissue the early cds as well, since the packaging on them is kind of rubbish and they could do with a remaster treatment (I've held off buying anymore expecting this to happen for two years)

akm, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah, the only early one I have on CD is Everybody Knows This is Nowhere and its kinda too bright and crisp.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

(almost all my Neil stuff is on vinyl and I prefer it that way.)

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

Neil sounds better on vinyl anyway. Just get the original records.

sexyDancer, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

the hdcd remaster of time fades away leaked a while ago. it is awesome.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

avoid at all costs the "Everybody Knows..." CD. It is pretty crappy sounding compared to the LP. I think the remastered stuff on that recent greatest hits CD sounds a lot better, too.

And regarding the Times Fades Away HDCD leak--where can i find this?

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

sent you a message tylerw

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

Can you send me a message as well? :)

J, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

when is the Time Fades Away HDCD set to be released?

Also, Shakey, I'm assuming that 2 of the 8 discs on this will be the Massey Hall and Fillmore ones that were just released? Is that correct?

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

God, I hope not! That would be kind of lame, since I've already bought those two. The way I understood it was that the Live Performance Series was something different from the box set. But maybe I'm wrong?

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

Also, Shakey, I'm assuming that 2 of the 8 discs on this will be the Massey Hall and Fillmore ones that were just released? Is that correct?

I'll ask, but yeh this was my assumption too.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

cool lemme know if you can...i haven't bought massey yet and if it is gonna be in the box i'll probably just hold off. thx

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

As someone mentioned upthread, I think the Performance Series stuff that's been released is separate from the Archives boxes.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

when is the Time Fades Away HDCD set to be released?

there is no release date. it was supposed to be done with on the beach and whatever else was in that first wave of hdcds, but neil didn't like the way it came out and he put the kibosh on it. journey through the past was done in hdcd as well but that never leaked.

problem is both of the original releases were cobbled together from two track tapes, and parts of journey were pulled straight from video so there's only so far you can go in making them super hifi. tfa sounds great anyways. hopefully it will be in archives vol 2. as a ditch trilogy fan that will be wot gets me excited, tho having journey in vol 1 would be pretty reet.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

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Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

FFS

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Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

will it include the band before Buffalo Springfield where Neil Young played with Rick James?

Cameron Octigan, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

GODDAMNIT STET

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Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

sent you a message j

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

From I can gather from what Niel's been sayin is that the NYArchvie boxes will contain EVERYTHING he ever recorded.

So you know the difference. Some of it is good, some of it is crap that wasn't released-there's a reason. Take a look, see what it is. That's what a fuckin' archive is about, not "Here's Neil Young in all his wonderfulness-the great, phenomenal fucking wonderfulness." That's not what I want.

I want people to know how fuckin' terrible I was. How scared I was and how great I was. The real picture-that's what I'm looking for. Not a product. And I think that's what the die-hard fans want - the whole fuckin' thing." -Neil Young

sexyDancer, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

Grazia Ed!

J, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

okay, to answer some questions:
- my guy at the studio says yes, Massey Hall and Fillmore are going to be included on the box set. He also sez: "wow yer in for a treat, espesh the ealy 60s guitar inst. serf stuff ya think I kid, but no."
- As for Neil and Rick James in the Mynah Birds

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

goddammit.
phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/ wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=206976523&s=143441&i=206976875

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the updates. I'm kinda pissed now that I just shelled out for Fillmore and Massey tho.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

this will probably be one of the only boxed sets I've ever shelled out money for (the other one being BACK TO MONO)

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

this will be the first box set i've ever bought. i'm dreading finding out how much this'll cost.

modestmickey, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

shakey, would you mind inquiring about journey through the past, album or film or both? no worries if you've pressed yr luck, don't want to turn this thread into a flood of q's for you. I'm just way curious about that.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

haha - no worries, he's a close friend/bandmate/neighbor and we will be getting drunk and karaoke'ing later today as a matter of fact. I'll ask

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

scraping together a few amazon.com gift certificates and getting in on the pre-order price will probably take the edge off this one.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

wow, thanks man.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

this will be the first box set i've ever bought. i'm dreading finding out how much this'll cost.

don't worry I'll hook you up with an illegal download just like you like

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

Back to Mono goes for like $15 these days

sexyDancer, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

timely

modestmickey, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

This sounds fantastic. Just hope I don't have to sell a pint or two of blood to afford it.

leavethecapital, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

it does seem increasingly weird that dudes like dylan and young with these deep archives of live performances aren't looking at what the grateful dead does and just copying that. neil performance series is great, but it's not quite dick's picks. if he just told jonathan bernstein to do the same thing as dick's picks, there would be tons of great (and complete) shows available.

sactly

famous instagram God (waterface), Friday, 5 September 2014 16:52 (two years ago) Permalink

"Hey man, don't worry about it, it's just an album, I've made 20 of them"

ha, wonder where different singer/songwriters reached that degree of cynicism re: individual artifacts. Probably around the time they realized the wiggle room on their concert setlist was decreasing.

da croupier, Friday, 5 September 2014 17:09 (two years ago) Permalink

"ok i gotta play these 8 songs till the end of time, so reasonably this album is only going to provide one to four songs on future setlists, so fuck the b side"

da croupier, Friday, 5 September 2014 17:10 (two years ago) Permalink

"we're going for a sort of 'mediocre' vibe on this particular record, that song wouldn't fit"

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 5 September 2014 17:15 (two years ago) Permalink

Heylin's Behind the Shades basically repeats the same narrative for each and every Dylan album: that it coulda been something much greater had it been recorded/mixed/sequenced/whatever differently. You come away with the feeling that Dylan's career was just one huge missed opportunity

Duke, Friday, 5 September 2014 19:09 (two years ago) Permalink

I love Neil, but Archives remains a shit deal. I can't justify it. Such a pity that he isn't as laissez-faire as Dylan, and can't allow something à la Bootleg Series.

― Duke, Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the performance series is pretty similar, no?

― mizzell, Friday, September 5, 2014 5:48 PM (3 hours ago)

Fair point. But there could be so much more.

Duke, Friday, 5 September 2014 19:11 (two years ago) Permalink

You doubters will be shocked and saddened when Neil suddenly makes dozens of shows available for download exclusively to those who bought the Blu-ray edition.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 September 2014 19:15 (two years ago) Permalink

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/neil-young-guitarist-poncho-sampedro-wants-one-last-crazy-horse-tour-20140905

He's always thinking about what he's doing today and tomorrow, and right now he has acoustic shows, Pono and he's working on a fiction novel."

Not mentioned: Archives 2.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 6 September 2014 14:28 (two years ago) Permalink

Ha those poncho interviews are so funny. For a guy who has been pretty close to shakey for 40 years he still has zero idea what is going to happen next.

tylerw, Saturday, 6 September 2014 14:43 (two years ago) Permalink

Yeah, and apparently they don't exactly hang out while on tour if Frank had to send Neil an email about set list suggestions.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 6 September 2014 14:53 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

After he wraps his current tour in October, Young will continue work on Archives II, the follow-up to 2009's Archives, which collected unreleased material up to 1972. Young says the project will include Dume, an album of songs from the Zuma era, and Hitchhiker, an acoustic LP from the mid-Seventies. The major holdup has been developing technology for presenting the ambitious project: "We're gonna have a website that's, like, 60 years of music in chronological order, with links so you can look at my archives and play the music off the high-res source at the same time." So what's it like to reflect on all he's accomplished over the years? "I don't," he says. "I need to take a break and go to the bathroom."

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/inside-neil-youngs-nature-themed-opus-20160705#ixzz4DY1hmDqk
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tylerw, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 15:19 (one year ago) Permalink

so much about that is amazing

Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:25 (one year ago) Permalink

can a website be pono

tylerw, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:35 (one year ago) Permalink

poll

a (waterface), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:37 (one year ago) Permalink

I wonder if they could do a *Pono Certified* program for websites like those Energy Star ratings they have on washing machine and shit

Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:38 (one year ago) Permalink

also no mention of the albums Homegrown, Oceanside/Countryside, or the original Chrome Dreams??

would "Dume" or "Hitchhiker" be another name for one of those?

Chrome Dreams definitely existed, I have a bootleg of it, and it think it might have even gone to test pressing before being pulled

Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:39 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah i think this is just in addition to those other ones -- Dume and I'm assuming Hitchiker are collections that have been recently put together, as opposed to albums that were sequenced and prepped back in the 70s.

but it's just crazy, does neil young even look at the internet? why does he care about a website. put out DUME on vinyl, that's all you need to do. it'll look and sound great!

tylerw, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:42 (one year ago) Permalink

tbh I really love the version of "Hitchhiker" one Le Noise, I love the songs on that where the song quality actually rises to the level of the production and that vers. is p psychedelic

Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:44 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah that one is great ...
probably mentioned above, but neil's people talked about these coming out separately
Four unreleased albums from this period are being rebuilt and will be available in the NYA Special Release Series. Chrome Dreams, Homegrown and Oceanside-Countryside are the three unreleased studio albums. Also from this period is the unreleased Odeon-Budokan live recording produced by David Briggs and Tim Mulligan. These albums initially will be released in vinyl from analog masters as they originally were created for that format.

tylerw, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:45 (one year ago) Permalink

sweet i hope they stick to that plan

Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:47 (one year ago) Permalink

or better yet can Bob Dylan's management and production team stage a hostile takeover of Neil's archives and handle it from here on out?

Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:47 (one year ago) Permalink

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

a (waterface), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 17:07 (one year ago) Permalink

Just then, his Samsung phone rings; the ringtone is his own voice shouting "Hello?!"

<3 <3 <3

Oh baby, if only you knew / Gabnebb hit a hundred-and-two (stevie), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 09:17 (one year ago) Permalink

Oh, man, what a bummer. If Neil is designing a website to play music, that means the internet is truly on the cusp of irrelevance. RIP internet.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 12:36 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

http://www.neilyoungarchives.com/notescroll.html

tylerw, Friday, 4 August 2017 14:54 (two weeks ago) Permalink

holy shit

tyler do you know anything about this based on your recent writing/research etc?

cuz that sounds fucking amazing if true

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 August 2017 15:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

though does this mean they aren't going to do physical stuff anymore??

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 August 2017 15:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Hm, he says you can "see" unreleased albums, but doesn't explicitly say you can stream them. It would be incredible, though, if he just dumped everything onto the site. And "associated...films and videos" would theoretically mean the '76 Crazy Horse tour...!

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 4 August 2017 15:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

haha, yeah, pretty vague at the moment -- will there be things on here from 64-72 that weren't on the archives box set? i don't really know anything else.

tylerw, Friday, 4 August 2017 15:31 (two weeks ago) Permalink

can we change this thread title to "IT'S REALLY NEVER HAPPENING"

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 August 2017 15:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The Archives will be the town of Greendale recreated as a Myst-style video game where you must explore Greendale, talking to locals and finding clues to unlock Neil's music

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 August 2017 15:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

please don't show neil Myst

tylerw, Friday, 4 August 2017 15:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I hope when this goes live there's a drawer that's just "Doghouse"

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 4 August 2017 16:06 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Welcome to NYA, the doghouse of my music

tylerw, Friday, 4 August 2017 16:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Is this before or after they fix the pono web site?

koogs, Friday, 4 August 2017 17:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

neil only knows.
in the meantime, this is back on the schedule -- https://www.amazon.com/Hitchhiker-Neil-Young/dp/B072JVDRWC/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1501870010&sr=1-1&keywords=neil+young+hitchhiker

tylerw, Friday, 4 August 2017 18:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

glad the vinyl doesn't seem to be absurdly overpriced ...

tylerw, Friday, 4 August 2017 18:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yeah if they went back and put some sane prices on shit i'd buy a shitload of neil vinyl

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 August 2017 18:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I think it's been locked out of the market by the domestic reissue, but there used to be a nice official German press of Zuma that retailed for about $15.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 August 2017 18:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

neil has confused amazon, though. the status of my hitchhiker pre-order, which had today as release date:
Arriving today by 8 PM
Not yet shipped

mizzell, Friday, 4 August 2017 18:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

special sedan delivery

tylerw, Friday, 4 August 2017 18:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Considering it's all acoustic I really like the energy of this OG "Hitchhiker" (the song), at least in its first two and half minutes or so.

Jeff W, Friday, 4 August 2017 19:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yeah, so good. i do wonder if there's a crazy horse version from that era in the vaults. i can imagine it, anyway.

tylerw, Friday, 4 August 2017 19:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Neil has a very heavy downstroke/palm mute on/off thign on acoustic, he can get a real heavy feel to an acoustic song that no one else quite does

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 August 2017 19:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

what's the difference between the cd archive 1-4 box set on amazon for £66 quid and the one i picked up in hmv this lunchtime for £13? (2009 remaster, hdcd it says)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-Release-Discs-Neil-Young/dp/B0087E60WS/ref=sr_1_6

vs

http://store.hmv.com/music/cd/official-release-series-discs-1-4

koogs, Saturday, 5 August 2017 22:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I wouldn't think anything, I got a set of those for about $20 USD in eBay

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 5 August 2017 23:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Volumes 2 and 3 of that series are currently scheduled to come out in two weeks. We'll see.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 6 August 2017 00:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah, but they are also listed at £60+ making them over 15 quid each. Forget that.

koogs, Sunday, 6 August 2017 04:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

That's insane. They're listed at $45 each on Amazon US, and I'm sure they'll be cheaper on eBay.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 6 August 2017 10:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Vol. 2 (On The Beach, Times Fades Away, Tonight’s The Night, and Zuma) is $44.79 from Amazon US.
Vol. 3 (Long May You Run, American Stars 'N Bars, Comes A Time, Rust Never Sleeps, and Live Rust) is $48.24 from Amazon US.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 6 August 2017 12:41 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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