NEIL YOUNG ARCHIVES BOX: IT'S REALLY HAPPENING

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i've seriously been waiting for most of my adult life for this.

dudez i'm so fucking stoked.

8 CD? 2 DVDS? shut yo mouth neil! step the fuck back, man, headz ain't ready for the shit you got...headz ain't ready man i swear they're not!

awesome.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

I'll believe it when I see it on the shelves. But yeah, it does look pretty awesome. And this one just goes up to 1972? Ha ha. Anyone have any idea how much this will cost me?

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

I've been working at the studio where they've been preparing this. I practically jumped out of my skin when I saw the room with all the original tape reels. this is gonna be great.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

i think there are blurbs about it in the new archives Massey Hall CD (which is *sublime)

stevie, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

wow really? any tidbits of info you'd like to share? I'm really hoping for "Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere" and "After The Gold Rush" outtakes...

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

xpost

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

oh shit! footage from journey through the past! might he actually release the HDCD or the actual film on this? I've been kinda obsessed with that album for the past month.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

These things are going to be so awesome, although I'm still pretty skeptical considering how long they've been in the works. I remember when he first set up a website to hype these, I think I first saw it in, what, '98? But yeah, I am so thrilled to think these may actually see release soon. I just hope they aren't insanely expensive.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

they're kinda understandably paranoid about the material and people stealing stuff so I didn't really pry. The studio's done the last few DVDs for Neil so there's some funny stories (band calling studio to see if anybody has any weed, etc.). This is all second-hand though, I've yet to meet the actual engineers involved with the archives project.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

x-post

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

So yeah, I think it has literally been 20 years since Shakey started talking about this project. Am I right in thinking that the audio portion of the box set will be all studio recordings (since the Performance Series single discs are covering the live shows)? An actual release of "Journey Through the Past" would be cool. I don't care how bad it is--it's got to be better than "Human Highway", right?

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

they're kinda understandably paranoid about the material and people stealing stuff so I didn't really pry.

understandable. but your first name *is* shakey after all, that should earn you some pull over there.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

An actual release of "Journey Through the Past" would be cool. I don't care how bad it is

it's actually really really good! totally corrosive version of "ohio", and the last half is like some messed-up audio collage that includes field recordings and a hypnotic 16 minute version of "words". I loves it. it smells like history.

but neil's such a heartbreaker, he'll probably put everything out *except* that.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

i have journey through the past on vinyl, it's good.

the real tragedy of neil's back catalog though is "time fades away" being out of print.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

yeah Time Fades Away is one of my favorites. "Yonder Stands the Sinner"!

but then I also like "Human Highway".

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I've got Journey Through the Past on record as well--I was talking about the movie...will that ever see the light of day again? And yes, it is fairly ridiculous that Neil has never gotten around to issuing Time Fades Away on CD---it's one of his best albums! For serious.

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

since this is actually on the label's website I would be surprised if it doesn't come out now. It would be nice if he'd reissue the early cds as well, since the packaging on them is kind of rubbish and they could do with a remaster treatment (I've held off buying anymore expecting this to happen for two years)

akm, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, the only early one I have on CD is Everybody Knows This is Nowhere and its kinda too bright and crisp.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

(almost all my Neil stuff is on vinyl and I prefer it that way.)

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

Neil sounds better on vinyl anyway. Just get the original records.

sexyDancer, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

the hdcd remaster of time fades away leaked a while ago. it is awesome.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

avoid at all costs the "Everybody Knows..." CD. It is pretty crappy sounding compared to the LP. I think the remastered stuff on that recent greatest hits CD sounds a lot better, too.

And regarding the Times Fades Away HDCD leak--where can i find this?

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

sent you a message tylerw

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

Can you send me a message as well? :)

J, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

when is the Time Fades Away HDCD set to be released?

Also, Shakey, I'm assuming that 2 of the 8 discs on this will be the Massey Hall and Fillmore ones that were just released? Is that correct?

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

God, I hope not! That would be kind of lame, since I've already bought those two. The way I understood it was that the Live Performance Series was something different from the box set. But maybe I'm wrong?

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

Also, Shakey, I'm assuming that 2 of the 8 discs on this will be the Massey Hall and Fillmore ones that were just released? Is that correct?

I'll ask, but yeh this was my assumption too.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

cool lemme know if you can...i haven't bought massey yet and if it is gonna be in the box i'll probably just hold off. thx

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

As someone mentioned upthread, I think the Performance Series stuff that's been released is separate from the Archives boxes.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

when is the Time Fades Away HDCD set to be released?

there is no release date. it was supposed to be done with on the beach and whatever else was in that first wave of hdcds, but neil didn't like the way it came out and he put the kibosh on it. journey through the past was done in hdcd as well but that never leaked.

problem is both of the original releases were cobbled together from two track tapes, and parts of journey were pulled straight from video so there's only so far you can go in making them super hifi. tfa sounds great anyways. hopefully it will be in archives vol 2. as a ditch trilogy fan that will be wot gets me excited, tho having journey in vol 1 would be pretty reet.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.sidestreetrecords.com/articles/OddsSods/images/cd_2151Test1995x300.png

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Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

FFS

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Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

will it include the band before Buffalo Springfield where Neil Young played with Rick James?

Cameron Octigan, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

GODDAMNIT STET

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Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

sent you a message j

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

From I can gather from what Niel's been sayin is that the NYArchvie boxes will contain EVERYTHING he ever recorded.

So you know the difference. Some of it is good, some of it is crap that wasn't released-there's a reason. Take a look, see what it is. That's what a fuckin' archive is about, not "Here's Neil Young in all his wonderfulness-the great, phenomenal fucking wonderfulness." That's not what I want.

I want people to know how fuckin' terrible I was. How scared I was and how great I was. The real picture-that's what I'm looking for. Not a product. And I think that's what the die-hard fans want - the whole fuckin' thing." -Neil Young

sexyDancer, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

Grazia Ed!

J, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

okay, to answer some questions:
- my guy at the studio says yes, Massey Hall and Fillmore are going to be included on the box set. He also sez: "wow yer in for a treat, espesh the ealy 60s guitar inst. serf stuff ya think I kid, but no."
- As for Neil and Rick James in the Mynah Birds

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

goddammit.
phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/ wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=206976523&s=143441&i=206976875

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks for the updates. I'm kinda pissed now that I just shelled out for Fillmore and Massey tho.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

this will probably be one of the only boxed sets I've ever shelled out money for (the other one being BACK TO MONO)

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

this will be the first box set i've ever bought. i'm dreading finding out how much this'll cost.

modestmickey, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

shakey, would you mind inquiring about journey through the past, album or film or both? no worries if you've pressed yr luck, don't want to turn this thread into a flood of q's for you. I'm just way curious about that.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

haha - no worries, he's a close friend/bandmate/neighbor and we will be getting drunk and karaoke'ing later today as a matter of fact. I'll ask

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

scraping together a few amazon.com gift certificates and getting in on the pre-order price will probably take the edge off this one.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

wow, thanks man.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

this will be the first box set i've ever bought. i'm dreading finding out how much this'll cost.

don't worry I'll hook you up with an illegal download just like you like

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

Back to Mono goes for like $15 these days

sexyDancer, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

timely

modestmickey, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

This sounds fantastic. Just hope I don't have to sell a pint or two of blood to afford it.

leavethecapital, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

Out of the CPU (Into the Cloud)

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 03:33 (four weeks ago) link

The Dongle and the Damage Done

Dinsdale, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 06:14 (four weeks ago) link

Harvest Mooncoin

maffew12, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 13:03 (four weeks ago) link

See the Sky About to Restart

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 14:03 (four weeks ago) link

lol

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 14:39 (four weeks ago) link

Computer Cowboy (AKA Syscrusher)

J. Sam, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 16:11 (four weeks ago) link

I've accepted that being a Neil Young fan means constant disappointment punctuated by occasional elation, but the fact that Homegrown still hasn't been released frustrates me more than just about anything in the world

J. Sam, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 16:15 (four weeks ago) link

possible tracklisting:

Side A
1) Separate Ways (unreleased)
2) Try (unreleased)
3) Mexico (unreleased)
4) Love Is a Rose
5) Homegrown
6) Florida (unreleased)
7) Kansas (unreleased)

Side B
1) We Don't Smoke It No More (unreleased)
2) White Line
3) Vacancy (unreleased)
4) Little Wing
5) Star of Bethlehem.

tylerw, Friday, 22 November 2019 21:41 (two weeks ago) link

ooooh this is the real shit

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 November 2019 21:42 (two weeks ago) link

oh and hey here's a pdf of this homegrown essay I wrote (kind of an expanded directors cut of a section from an uncut feature i wrote a few years ago) https://we.tl/t-olOP9wZZ8A

tylerw, Friday, 22 November 2019 21:43 (two weeks ago) link

should say that both "white line" and "homegrown" should be unheard/unreleased versions of those songs, too. Not positive about Star of Bethlehem of Little Wing.

tylerw, Friday, 22 November 2019 21:45 (two weeks ago) link

thanks for that PDF

was just going to ask if Star was from Stars n Bars

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 November 2019 21:52 (two weeks ago) link

I like how road map-y that tracklisting is, all those songs named after places or car travel stuff.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 November 2019 22:30 (two weeks ago) link

He went back to the seventies to press the vinyl? shiiiit Neil!

maffew12, Friday, 22 November 2019 22:40 (two weeks ago) link

Love is a Rose is a real clunker

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Friday, 22 November 2019 22:51 (two weeks ago) link

XP These are actually OG pressings he found behind a neglected Buick in one of his lesser car barns.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 November 2019 22:52 (two weeks ago) link

Sure Neil, sure you will.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Saturday, 23 November 2019 00:19 (two weeks ago) link

Where's Delaware? I heard that's for the real heads.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Saturday, 23 November 2019 00:20 (two weeks ago) link

I've accepted that being a Neil Young fan means constant disappointment punctuated by occasional elation, but the fact that Homegrown still hasn't been released frustrates me more than just about anything in the world

― J. Sam, Wednesday, November 13, 2019 11:15 AM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

I guess this post is what finally convinced him to pull the trigger on Homegrown :) Still bracing myself for a cancellation or delayed release tho...

J. Sam, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:54 (two weeks ago) link

or an announcement about it being PONO/NYA exclusive or whatever. maybe this is the overarching strategy - make it so the $39.99 LP release seems like a great, accessible deal

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:05 (two weeks ago) link

yeah tbh my first thought was "what infuriating way are they going to release this, CDROM or reel-to-reel or realaudio stream or what"

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:32 (two weeks ago) link

i'll be a v happy camper if i can just go into a record store and buy it on vinyl (...as it was meant to be... made in the mid-nineteen seventies!)

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:34 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.wisefamousquotes.com/images/neil-young-quotes-1068741.jpg

omar little, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:55 (two weeks ago) link

The ultimate dick move would be to make it a Pono exclusive, since Pono no longer exists.

(Not ruling this out.)

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 17:55 (two weeks ago) link

not to let the facts get in the way of everyone's bitching but the last spate of Archives releases have all been about $22 on vinyl including Songs for Just, the Roxy ($18 right now on Amazon) and Hitchhiker which is the most directly comparable to Homegrown

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 18:07 (two weeks ago) link

yeah if it's a single LP it probably won't be more than $20.

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 18:20 (two weeks ago) link

hey, what great news!

also i missed the bus on the roxy and tuscaloosa sets — worth it?

(some background: i liked the cellar door, fillmore east, and massey hall sets alright but did not get much out of them past the first few listens)

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 18:29 (two weeks ago) link

Roxy (imo) much more essential than Tuscaloosa

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 18:50 (two weeks ago) link

Sorry to bitch! And that’s good news

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 19:13 (two weeks ago) link

neil apparently is going to ask archives subscribers to vote on what they want released out of these things (some new additions)

STRATFORD SHAKESPEARE
THEATER
SOLO 1971 FILM LP

GREENDALE LIVE
CRAZY HORSE 2003 STAGE
PRODUCTION FILM LP

GREENDALE at VICKAR STREET
SOLO 2003 FILM LP

TOAST
CRAZY HORSE LP 2001 (limited film)

MOUNTAINTOP
CRAZY HORSE 2019 fFILM

CATALYST
CRAZY HORSE 1991 FILM LP

ALCHEMY
CRAZY HORSE 2012/2013 FILM LP

EARLY DAZE
CRAZY HORSE 1960s LP

HARVEST TIME
STRAY GATORS 1971 FILM LP

MIRROR BALL LIVE DUBLIN
friends from PEARL JAM FILM LP

DESERT TRIP
PROMISE OF THE REAL FILM

MONSANTO YEARS
PROMISE OF THE REAL 2O14
FILM / DOC/ MUSIC

TRUNK SHOW
THE CONTINENTALS 2009 FILM LP

LINCVOLT CHRONICLES 1-5
DOCUMENTARY SERIES FILM

TOWER THEATER PHILADELPHIA
SOLO FILM LP 2018

POLAR VORTEX
SOLO FILM LP 2019

HOMEGROWN
ORIGINAL STUDIO LP 1975

CHROME DREAMS
ORIGINAL STUDIO LP 1977

BERLIN
TRANS BAND 1982 FILM LP

OCEANSIDE COUNTRYSIDE
ORIGINAL STUDIO LP 1976-77

BOARDING HOUSE
SOLO 1976 FILM LP

ISLAND IN THE SUN
LP 1982

TRANS 2020
ANIMATED TRANS FILM

BOTTOM LINE
SOLO 1974 LP

OVER THE RAINBOW
LIVE TONIGHTS THE NIGHT LP

ODEON BUDAKON
LONDON / TOKYO CRAZY HORSE / SOLO / DOC 1976
FILM / LP

DUCKS
LP LIVE IN SANTA CRUZ 1977
LP

HOMEFIRES
LP 1974 VARIOUS SOLO AND BAND
LP

FILLMORE EAST
CSNY LIVE/ BAND/ SOLO
1971 FILM LP

tylerw, Saturday, 30 November 2019 23:25 (one week ago) link

not to let the facts get in the way of everyone's bitching but

new board description plz

budo jeru, Saturday, 30 November 2019 23:35 (one week ago) link

I am so tired of Neil's bullshit now. I am going to join NYA to hate vote Monsanto Years.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Sunday, 1 December 2019 00:06 (one week ago) link

just put out Homegrown FFS

maddening

Book Doula (sleeve), Sunday, 1 December 2019 00:08 (one week ago) link

I hope Homegrown will be out closer to January and not December 2020.

nostormo, Monday, 2 December 2019 16:30 (one week ago) link

TRANS 2020
ANIMATED TRANS FILM

innarestin'

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 2 December 2019 16:33 (one week ago) link

it's by one of the promise of the real guys. would probably be more exciting if it had been made in the early 80s?

tylerw, Monday, 2 December 2019 16:42 (one week ago) link

less innarestin'

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 2 December 2019 16:44 (one week ago) link

Did he just make some of these up for the hell of it? 'Homefires' in particular sounds like the stuff that's already been around for decades ('Pushed It', the 74 live songs etc). The Stratford show might be the most redundant release ever, considering he already used the footage for the Massey Hall show and the set was more or less identical.

whitehallunity, Monday, 2 December 2019 16:48 (one week ago) link

Homegrown will be an Easter egg on the trans 2020 laserdisc

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 2 December 2019 16:50 (one week ago) link

xp i think homefires is essentially a Homegrown companion album. Some stuff has floated around, but there are songs like "Barefoot Floors" and "Frozen Man" that have never been bootlegged, as well as studio versions of "Love Art Blues", "Homefires", "Give Me Strength" etc (and weren't listed on that possible Homegrown release). Maybe some of the aborted CSNY sessions too?

tylerw, Monday, 2 December 2019 16:52 (one week ago) link

Neil's not about that life, but it seems like some of these (that '71 show, the Tower show) would be better as RSD exclusives than full-fledged Archives titles.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 December 2019 16:58 (one week ago) link

to answer your question: "Did he just make some of these up for the hell of it?" the answer is yes.

tylerw, Monday, 2 December 2019 16:59 (one week ago) link

is Over the Rainbow that Tonight's the Night UK show where it's a way more dark and confrontational vibe than the Roxy?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 December 2019 17:08 (one week ago) link

lol, at this point I figure Homegrown will just be 40 minutes of preamble to 'Tie Plate Yodel #3'

whitehallunity, Monday, 2 December 2019 17:12 (one week ago) link

is Over the Rainbow that Tonight's the Night UK show where it's a way more dark and confrontational vibe than the Roxy?

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, December 2, 2019 12:08 PM (three minutes ago)

yeah, that's the one. Lots of talk about the seniors in Miami with their electric scooters and whatnot.

whitehallunity, Monday, 2 December 2019 17:12 (one week ago) link

Real heads know that Homefires is the later version of Homefries.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Monday, 2 December 2019 18:33 (one week ago) link

Homefries, the legendary lost Neil Young concept album about side orders.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 December 2019 18:41 (one week ago) link

cover art option
https://a.1stdibscdn.com/archivesE/upload/a_1032/1458682719689/NeilYoungBreakfast530_l.jpg

tylerw, Monday, 2 December 2019 19:22 (one week ago) link

I think there is an early version of T-Bone on there. "Ain't got no PO-tat-o/Ain't got no hooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmefriiiiiiiiieeeeees."

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Monday, 2 December 2019 20:51 (one week ago) link


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