NEIL YOUNG ARCHIVES BOX: IT'S REALLY HAPPENING

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i've seriously been waiting for most of my adult life for this.

dudez i'm so fucking stoked.

8 CD? 2 DVDS? shut yo mouth neil! step the fuck back, man, headz ain't ready for the shit you got...headz ain't ready man i swear they're not!

awesome.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'll believe it when I see it on the shelves. But yeah, it does look pretty awesome. And this one just goes up to 1972? Ha ha. Anyone have any idea how much this will cost me?

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

I've been working at the studio where they've been preparing this. I practically jumped out of my skin when I saw the room with all the original tape reels. this is gonna be great.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

i think there are blurbs about it in the new archives Massey Hall CD (which is *sublime)

stevie, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

wow really? any tidbits of info you'd like to share? I'm really hoping for "Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere" and "After The Gold Rush" outtakes...

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

xpost

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

oh shit! footage from journey through the past! might he actually release the HDCD or the actual film on this? I've been kinda obsessed with that album for the past month.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

These things are going to be so awesome, although I'm still pretty skeptical considering how long they've been in the works. I remember when he first set up a website to hype these, I think I first saw it in, what, '98? But yeah, I am so thrilled to think these may actually see release soon. I just hope they aren't insanely expensive.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

they're kinda understandably paranoid about the material and people stealing stuff so I didn't really pry. The studio's done the last few DVDs for Neil so there's some funny stories (band calling studio to see if anybody has any weed, etc.). This is all second-hand though, I've yet to meet the actual engineers involved with the archives project.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

x-post

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

So yeah, I think it has literally been 20 years since Shakey started talking about this project. Am I right in thinking that the audio portion of the box set will be all studio recordings (since the Performance Series single discs are covering the live shows)? An actual release of "Journey Through the Past" would be cool. I don't care how bad it is--it's got to be better than "Human Highway", right?

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

they're kinda understandably paranoid about the material and people stealing stuff so I didn't really pry.

understandable. but your first name *is* shakey after all, that should earn you some pull over there.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

An actual release of "Journey Through the Past" would be cool. I don't care how bad it is

it's actually really really good! totally corrosive version of "ohio", and the last half is like some messed-up audio collage that includes field recordings and a hypnotic 16 minute version of "words". I loves it. it smells like history.

but neil's such a heartbreaker, he'll probably put everything out *except* that.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

i have journey through the past on vinyl, it's good.

the real tragedy of neil's back catalog though is "time fades away" being out of print.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah Time Fades Away is one of my favorites. "Yonder Stands the Sinner"!

but then I also like "Human Highway".

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I've got Journey Through the Past on record as well--I was talking about the movie...will that ever see the light of day again? And yes, it is fairly ridiculous that Neil has never gotten around to issuing Time Fades Away on CD---it's one of his best albums! For serious.

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

since this is actually on the label's website I would be surprised if it doesn't come out now. It would be nice if he'd reissue the early cds as well, since the packaging on them is kind of rubbish and they could do with a remaster treatment (I've held off buying anymore expecting this to happen for two years)

akm, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah, the only early one I have on CD is Everybody Knows This is Nowhere and its kinda too bright and crisp.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

(almost all my Neil stuff is on vinyl and I prefer it that way.)

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

Neil sounds better on vinyl anyway. Just get the original records.

sexyDancer, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

the hdcd remaster of time fades away leaked a while ago. it is awesome.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

avoid at all costs the "Everybody Knows..." CD. It is pretty crappy sounding compared to the LP. I think the remastered stuff on that recent greatest hits CD sounds a lot better, too.

And regarding the Times Fades Away HDCD leak--where can i find this?

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

sent you a message tylerw

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

Can you send me a message as well? :)

J, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

when is the Time Fades Away HDCD set to be released?

Also, Shakey, I'm assuming that 2 of the 8 discs on this will be the Massey Hall and Fillmore ones that were just released? Is that correct?

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

God, I hope not! That would be kind of lame, since I've already bought those two. The way I understood it was that the Live Performance Series was something different from the box set. But maybe I'm wrong?

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

Also, Shakey, I'm assuming that 2 of the 8 discs on this will be the Massey Hall and Fillmore ones that were just released? Is that correct?

I'll ask, but yeh this was my assumption too.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

cool lemme know if you can...i haven't bought massey yet and if it is gonna be in the box i'll probably just hold off. thx

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

As someone mentioned upthread, I think the Performance Series stuff that's been released is separate from the Archives boxes.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

when is the Time Fades Away HDCD set to be released?

there is no release date. it was supposed to be done with on the beach and whatever else was in that first wave of hdcds, but neil didn't like the way it came out and he put the kibosh on it. journey through the past was done in hdcd as well but that never leaked.

problem is both of the original releases were cobbled together from two track tapes, and parts of journey were pulled straight from video so there's only so far you can go in making them super hifi. tfa sounds great anyways. hopefully it will be in archives vol 2. as a ditch trilogy fan that will be wot gets me excited, tho having journey in vol 1 would be pretty reet.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.sidestreetrecords.com/articles/OddsSods/images/cd_2151Test1995x300.png

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Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

FFS

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Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

will it include the band before Buffalo Springfield where Neil Young played with Rick James?

Cameron Octigan, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

GODDAMNIT STET

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/jttp.png

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

sent you a message j

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

From I can gather from what Niel's been sayin is that the NYArchvie boxes will contain EVERYTHING he ever recorded.

So you know the difference. Some of it is good, some of it is crap that wasn't released-there's a reason. Take a look, see what it is. That's what a fuckin' archive is about, not "Here's Neil Young in all his wonderfulness-the great, phenomenal fucking wonderfulness." That's not what I want.

I want people to know how fuckin' terrible I was. How scared I was and how great I was. The real picture-that's what I'm looking for. Not a product. And I think that's what the die-hard fans want - the whole fuckin' thing." -Neil Young

sexyDancer, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

Grazia Ed!

J, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

okay, to answer some questions:
- my guy at the studio says yes, Massey Hall and Fillmore are going to be included on the box set. He also sez: "wow yer in for a treat, espesh the ealy 60s guitar inst. serf stuff ya think I kid, but no."
- As for Neil and Rick James in the Mynah Birds

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

goddammit.
phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/ wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=206976523&s=143441&i=206976875

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the updates. I'm kinda pissed now that I just shelled out for Fillmore and Massey tho.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

this will probably be one of the only boxed sets I've ever shelled out money for (the other one being BACK TO MONO)

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

this will be the first box set i've ever bought. i'm dreading finding out how much this'll cost.

modestmickey, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

shakey, would you mind inquiring about journey through the past, album or film or both? no worries if you've pressed yr luck, don't want to turn this thread into a flood of q's for you. I'm just way curious about that.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

haha - no worries, he's a close friend/bandmate/neighbor and we will be getting drunk and karaoke'ing later today as a matter of fact. I'll ask

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

scraping together a few amazon.com gift certificates and getting in on the pre-order price will probably take the edge off this one.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

wow, thanks man.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

this will be the first box set i've ever bought. i'm dreading finding out how much this'll cost.

don't worry I'll hook you up with an illegal download just like you like

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

Back to Mono goes for like $15 these days

sexyDancer, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

timely

modestmickey, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

This sounds fantastic. Just hope I don't have to sell a pint or two of blood to afford it.

leavethecapital, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

forget it karl it's shakeytown

tylerw, Friday, 1 December 2017 19:12 (one week ago) Permalink

that link started working for me, but then took like 10 minutes and still didn't finish loading.

sleeve, Friday, 1 December 2017 19:15 (one week ago) Permalink

btw Neil Young in Berlin is on the timeline too so Solo Trans is not the concert on YouTube

Different shows. Berlin is the last TransBand show, filmed by Michael Lindsey-Hogg in late '82 and originally shown on HBO. Solo Trans is an American concert from the next year's Trans TV tour, with was Neil by himself and with the Shocking Pinks on the encore.

Solo Trans is up in bits and pieces on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_wL1YMhLao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAyG_u8mWxA

Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 December 2017 19:18 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah Berlin (which is readily available) is 82. solo trans is 83 w/ shocking pinks, and only popped up in full on youtube briefly a couple years ago. might've been released on VHS though?

tylerw, Friday, 1 December 2017 19:20 (one week ago) Permalink

also is there going to be (god help us)...an app?

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 December 2017 19:24 (one week ago) Permalink

that '83 tour is a great Neil time-capsule. At the time fans/critics seemed generally confused at what he was going for but in the context of the height of Reagan-era in the US Neil's p much right in stride with what was going on culturally - synthesizers, 50s nostalgia, a general hokiness and cardboard-thin optimism

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 19:25 (one week ago) Permalink

browsing through this archive is a total fucking nightmare

― Karl Malone, Friday, December 1, 2017 6:39 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

classic neil

― hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, December 1, 2017 6:40 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol otm this is impossible to navigate ffs!

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 1 December 2017 19:29 (one week ago) Permalink

so it's basically the blu-ray version of the archives with the next 40something years tacked on (in varying stages of completion).

tylerw, Friday, 1 December 2017 19:32 (one week ago) Permalink

I should've just rented a U-haul, stolen all those reels, and digitized them myself

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 19:39 (one week ago) Permalink

"Old man, look at my life. It's in a subfolder B after you right-click on that little LincVolt logo dealie...no, the other one."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 1 December 2017 19:51 (one week ago) Permalink

I should've just rented a U-haul, stolen all those reels, and digitized them myself


i’d back a kickstarter for you to do this fwiw

hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 19:53 (one week ago) Permalink

the icon for the "play" button is the same icon as the "next" button

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 December 2017 19:55 (one week ago) Permalink

classic neil

hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 19:58 (one week ago) Permalink

it's hard to make a website with yourself
when you're old enough to drupal
and young enough to html

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 December 2017 19:59 (one week ago) Permalink

Neil being a champion of all things analog, the server for the archives site is actually a giant abacus.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:03 (one week ago) Permalink

it will employ over 3 dozen abacus workers, toiling round the clock to keep up with the server demand

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:05 (one week ago) Permalink

https://s7.postimg.org/xmfrmw5uj/Flipthe_Neil_Switch.jpgp

flip that neil switch!!!! not bragging just saying my audio quality is 2,877 right now, feels great

I love that the search icon is a keyhole from the game Myst

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:05 (one week ago) Permalink

keyhole = search is seriously grade A classic neil

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:07 (one week ago) Permalink

woah i got over 3,800 in audio quality then it crashed
icarus flew too close to the sun

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:13 (one week ago) Permalink

i'm not even gonna bother with this tbh

just gonna wait until neil dies and someone else puts this stuff out in a reasonable way

marcos, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:15 (one week ago) Permalink

Drawer makes clacky ratchet sound when it opens, but folders don't make whispy shuffle sound as you flip through them.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:16 (one week ago) Permalink

I love that the search icon is a keyhole from the game Myst

neil saw some late 90s "enhanced cd-rom" things and was impressed

marcos, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:19 (one week ago) Permalink

Needs to integrate winamp visualizer plugins for full psychedelic pill effect.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:22 (one week ago) Permalink

it is kinda hilarious how much this resembles his Blu-ray menu crap from the late 90s/early 00s

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:27 (one week ago) Permalink

neil: gedda hold of this idea: you'll be able to click on the jpeg, and that'll open up other things you can play with!
neil hanger-ons ('the booger boys'): sounds great neil

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:30 (one week ago) Permalink

Neil would never use the word jpeg

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:32 (one week ago) Permalink

Do you have to "log in" in order to get access? Neil, you shouldn't have to log in to get into the Doghouse

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:33 (one week ago) Permalink

I love that the search icon is a keyhole from the game Myst

― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown),

Elliott Roberts kicks open the office door: "GODDAMMIT WHICH ONE OF YOU MOTHERFUCKERS SHOWED NEIL MYST?! THIS ARCHIVE IS NEVER GOING FUCKING MAKE SENSE!"

(joke h/t to trylerw)

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:35 (one week ago) Permalink

Also please tell me that Neil's management office is a Mad Men/Barney Miller style office bullpen where people smoke and discuss Neil albums that don't eventually get released and there is office intrigue and Elliott Roberts has a big office at the far end of the room and omg this could be a prestige cable drama!

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:41 (one week ago) Permalink

Show Me A Pono

Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:43 (one week ago) Permalink

Assistant: Elliott, the tracklisting for Homegrown has gone missing. I'm so sorry.

Roberts: [softly weeps]

tylerw, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:45 (one week ago) Permalink

at work, so I haven't tried this yet, but i'm dying reading these descriptions

intheblanks, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:46 (one week ago) Permalink

same here, just laughing to myself reading you guys and trying to imagine the fucking mess

Dinsdale, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:51 (one week ago) Permalink

hahahahahaaaa

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:59 (one week ago) Permalink

does anything on the search function work?

tylerw, Friday, 1 December 2017 21:01 (one week ago) Permalink

If you land on the front page, and click the 'back' button in the top left it takes you back to... the page you were on before you went to the Neil Young Archives! In my case: Google, googling Neil Young Archives. This is insanity!

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 1 December 2017 21:02 (one week ago) Permalink

XP 10 Men Workin' (IIRC)

Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 December 2017 21:02 (one week ago) Permalink

does anything on the search function work?

― tylerw, Friday, December 1, 2017 3:01 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not really with the exception of typing in proper names of album titles afaict

If you land on the front page, and click the 'back' button in the top left it takes you back to... the page you were on before you went to the Neil Young Archives! In my case: Google, googling Neil Young Archives. This is insanity!

― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, December 1, 2017 3:02 PM (fifty-one seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol i noticed this

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 December 2017 21:04 (one week ago) Permalink

now this site isn't playing music at all even with the Neil Switch flipped to low quality :(

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 December 2017 21:11 (one week ago) Permalink

neiltendo switch

hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 21:12 (one week ago) Permalink

"Neil, the servers are crashing"

"I don't care, the people must have FULL QUALITY"

sleeve, Friday, 1 December 2017 21:15 (one week ago) Permalink

Got The Quality/Ain't Got No Streamin'

Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 December 2017 22:01 (one week ago) Permalink

Forgot about this until just now, but I'm knee-deep in this site and trying to swim. Some of the extra memorabilia is frustrating cause there's not enough info on it, like the multiple handwritten tracklists for the 1st album with titles I don't know:

http://images.contentful.com/2okapnzdylk2/1968_0828_02_docs02/9a34d36a680bd9e86ca507cc4ce7215e/1968_0828_02_docs02.png

Based on the way he's set it up, you'd think those weirdo-titles would show up as individual listings, just without a playback option, but nope.

Also, if any of you still use soulseek, I just checked and somebody's got a DVD-RIP of the Hal Ashby Solo Trans Film that downloads quick. It's a great document of that era - during Don't Be Denied the giant video screen starts playing Springfield TV and Harvest barn rehearsal clips from Journey Through, and the crowd flips out. 'I've Got A Problem' is there too, better than the Catalyst Crazy Horse version imo.

whitehallunity, Saturday, 2 December 2017 00:43 (one week ago) Permalink

also also, if you're patient you can manage to pull the photos/scans out:

Briggs' tape box art from 'Everybody Knows' era:

http://images.contentful.com/2okapnzdylk2/1969_0123_01_memo02/b44ffe8ed59f6590e6ab08022db7ea0e/1969_0123_01_memo02.png

whitehallunity, Saturday, 2 December 2017 00:49 (one week ago) Permalink

haha loving all these descriptions

niels, Saturday, 2 December 2017 09:01 (one week ago) Permalink

My team and I have spent years developing this site to make it both enjoyable and easy to use.

niels, Saturday, 2 December 2017 09:08 (one week ago) Permalink

this thing is working pretty well for me now, currently jamming the Fillmore 1970 "Cowgirl"

has anyone tried buying a track?

sleeve, Sunday, 3 December 2017 01:48 (one week ago) Permalink

interesting thing lurking in the archives code ... this would be GOOD. live debut of Tonight's the Night in 1973.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lL8NDNVn5zM/WigwaxJEsTI/AAAAAAAANfk/6R-GcDTWwacWt9ec8wk7uGpjsVPn_NOiwCLcBGAs/s1600/roxy-cover.jpg

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 20:47 (one week ago) Permalink

I approve of this decision, Neil you can go ahead and release this

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 20:54 (one week ago) Permalink


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