NEIL YOUNG ARCHIVES BOX: IT'S REALLY HAPPENING

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i've seriously been waiting for most of my adult life for this.

dudez i'm so fucking stoked.

8 CD? 2 DVDS? shut yo mouth neil! step the fuck back, man, headz ain't ready for the shit you got...headz ain't ready man i swear they're not!

awesome.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll believe it when I see it on the shelves. But yeah, it does look pretty awesome. And this one just goes up to 1972? Ha ha. Anyone have any idea how much this will cost me?

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been working at the studio where they've been preparing this. I practically jumped out of my skin when I saw the room with all the original tape reels. this is gonna be great.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

i think there are blurbs about it in the new archives Massey Hall CD (which is *sublime)

stevie, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

wow really? any tidbits of info you'd like to share? I'm really hoping for "Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere" and "After The Gold Rush" outtakes...

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

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tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

oh shit! footage from journey through the past! might he actually release the HDCD or the actual film on this? I've been kinda obsessed with that album for the past month.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

These things are going to be so awesome, although I'm still pretty skeptical considering how long they've been in the works. I remember when he first set up a website to hype these, I think I first saw it in, what, '98? But yeah, I am so thrilled to think these may actually see release soon. I just hope they aren't insanely expensive.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

they're kinda understandably paranoid about the material and people stealing stuff so I didn't really pry. The studio's done the last few DVDs for Neil so there's some funny stories (band calling studio to see if anybody has any weed, etc.). This is all second-hand though, I've yet to meet the actual engineers involved with the archives project.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link

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Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link

So yeah, I think it has literally been 20 years since Shakey started talking about this project. Am I right in thinking that the audio portion of the box set will be all studio recordings (since the Performance Series single discs are covering the live shows)? An actual release of "Journey Through the Past" would be cool. I don't care how bad it is--it's got to be better than "Human Highway", right?

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

they're kinda understandably paranoid about the material and people stealing stuff so I didn't really pry.

understandable. but your first name *is* shakey after all, that should earn you some pull over there.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link

An actual release of "Journey Through the Past" would be cool. I don't care how bad it is

it's actually really really good! totally corrosive version of "ohio", and the last half is like some messed-up audio collage that includes field recordings and a hypnotic 16 minute version of "words". I loves it. it smells like history.

but neil's such a heartbreaker, he'll probably put everything out *except* that.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link

i have journey through the past on vinyl, it's good.

the real tragedy of neil's back catalog though is "time fades away" being out of print.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah Time Fades Away is one of my favorites. "Yonder Stands the Sinner"!

but then I also like "Human Highway".

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I've got Journey Through the Past on record as well--I was talking about the movie...will that ever see the light of day again? And yes, it is fairly ridiculous that Neil has never gotten around to issuing Time Fades Away on CD---it's one of his best albums! For serious.

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

since this is actually on the label's website I would be surprised if it doesn't come out now. It would be nice if he'd reissue the early cds as well, since the packaging on them is kind of rubbish and they could do with a remaster treatment (I've held off buying anymore expecting this to happen for two years)

akm, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, the only early one I have on CD is Everybody Knows This is Nowhere and its kinda too bright and crisp.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

(almost all my Neil stuff is on vinyl and I prefer it that way.)

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Neil sounds better on vinyl anyway. Just get the original records.

sexyDancer, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

the hdcd remaster of time fades away leaked a while ago. it is awesome.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

avoid at all costs the "Everybody Knows..." CD. It is pretty crappy sounding compared to the LP. I think the remastered stuff on that recent greatest hits CD sounds a lot better, too.

And regarding the Times Fades Away HDCD leak--where can i find this?

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

sent you a message tylerw

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Can you send me a message as well? :)

J, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

when is the Time Fades Away HDCD set to be released?

Also, Shakey, I'm assuming that 2 of the 8 discs on this will be the Massey Hall and Fillmore ones that were just released? Is that correct?

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

God, I hope not! That would be kind of lame, since I've already bought those two. The way I understood it was that the Live Performance Series was something different from the box set. But maybe I'm wrong?

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, Shakey, I'm assuming that 2 of the 8 discs on this will be the Massey Hall and Fillmore ones that were just released? Is that correct?

I'll ask, but yeh this was my assumption too.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link

cool lemme know if you can...i haven't bought massey yet and if it is gonna be in the box i'll probably just hold off. thx

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

As someone mentioned upthread, I think the Performance Series stuff that's been released is separate from the Archives boxes.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

when is the Time Fades Away HDCD set to be released?

there is no release date. it was supposed to be done with on the beach and whatever else was in that first wave of hdcds, but neil didn't like the way it came out and he put the kibosh on it. journey through the past was done in hdcd as well but that never leaked.

problem is both of the original releases were cobbled together from two track tapes, and parts of journey were pulled straight from video so there's only so far you can go in making them super hifi. tfa sounds great anyways. hopefully it will be in archives vol 2. as a ditch trilogy fan that will be wot gets me excited, tho having journey in vol 1 would be pretty reet.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

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Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link

FFS

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Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link

will it include the band before Buffalo Springfield where Neil Young played with Rick James?

Cameron Octigan, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link

GODDAMNIT STET

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Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

sent you a message j

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

From I can gather from what Niel's been sayin is that the NYArchvie boxes will contain EVERYTHING he ever recorded.

So you know the difference. Some of it is good, some of it is crap that wasn't released-there's a reason. Take a look, see what it is. That's what a fuckin' archive is about, not "Here's Neil Young in all his wonderfulness-the great, phenomenal fucking wonderfulness." That's not what I want.

I want people to know how fuckin' terrible I was. How scared I was and how great I was. The real picture-that's what I'm looking for. Not a product. And I think that's what the die-hard fans want - the whole fuckin' thing." -Neil Young

sexyDancer, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Grazia Ed!

J, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

okay, to answer some questions:
- my guy at the studio says yes, Massey Hall and Fillmore are going to be included on the box set. He also sez: "wow yer in for a treat, espesh the ealy 60s guitar inst. serf stuff ya think I kid, but no."
- As for Neil and Rick James in the Mynah Birds

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

goddammit.
phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/ wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=206976523&s=143441&i=206976875

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks for the updates. I'm kinda pissed now that I just shelled out for Fillmore and Massey tho.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

this will probably be one of the only boxed sets I've ever shelled out money for (the other one being BACK TO MONO)

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

this will be the first box set i've ever bought. i'm dreading finding out how much this'll cost.

modestmickey, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

shakey, would you mind inquiring about journey through the past, album or film or both? no worries if you've pressed yr luck, don't want to turn this thread into a flood of q's for you. I'm just way curious about that.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

haha - no worries, he's a close friend/bandmate/neighbor and we will be getting drunk and karaoke'ing later today as a matter of fact. I'll ask

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

scraping together a few amazon.com gift certificates and getting in on the pre-order price will probably take the edge off this one.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

wow, thanks man.

Edward III, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

this will be the first box set i've ever bought. i'm dreading finding out how much this'll cost.

don't worry I'll hook you up with an illegal download just like you like

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Back to Mono goes for like $15 these days

sexyDancer, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

timely

modestmickey, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

This sounds fantastic. Just hope I don't have to sell a pint or two of blood to afford it.

leavethecapital, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I agree, that note from Neil is not clear on that point at all. I really hope there will be one and not that they are the best crowd from which to judge, but a lot of H0ffmanites are insistent this deluxe is the only version. Who knows though, probably some of those dorks wanting to keep up the value of the deluxe boxes so they can flip 'em later.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:08 (two days ago) link

It's extra-galling that so much of this is already legally out there.

yeah tbh 13 unreleased tracks (excluding versions) out of a 10-disc box is a bit less than what i was hoping for

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:36 (two days ago) link

It's such a fuck-you to the fans. "Hey, thanks for buying Tuscaloosa and the Roxy set and Homegrown! Now you have the rare opportunity to buy them again! And for a lot more money, too! You're welcome!"

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:41 (two days ago) link

Yeah, that sucks, but he pulled the same thing with the first Archives box too.

I'm disappointed that the long rumored Odeon-Budokan double live thing is getting smashed down to a single disc.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:49 (two days ago) link

I think that one was double-live only in that it was going to be a double LP.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:53 (two days ago) link

I'm 100% positive Odeon-Budokan will be issued as an expanded standalone double-disc or boxed set. After Archives II sells out.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:54 (two days ago) link

XP...so it could feasibly be an 80-minute CD.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:54 (two days ago) link

Although... checking that tracklist, that wouldn't appear to be the case, unless Cowgirl & Cortez are jumbo jams. Iirc, the circulating boots have more electric stuff.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:02 (two days ago) link

odeon budokan here is designed as a single LP, one side acoustic, the other electric. it's about 45 minutes long which is about 45 minutes too short.

tylerw, Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:06 (two days ago) link

fuck this, I'm out. gonna take my copy of Homegrown and go sulk.

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:10 (two days ago) link

fuck you, Neil

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:11 (two days ago) link

messing with the Odeon show, wtf

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:11 (two days ago) link

ha, well, I think that this is the live LP that was prepped back in 76 and left unreleased. but yeah, he should be putting out an entire spring 76 w/ crazy horse show.

tylerw, Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:16 (two days ago) link

is anyone really buying this for those 13 songs? how many of those are just alternate versions?

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:17 (two days ago) link

my understanding is theres a bunch of live/alternate versions of previously released songs, as well as 13 songs "that have never been released in any form"

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:27 (two days ago) link

i can't believe they aren't doing a basic cd box set, so dumb

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:34 (two days ago) link

I can't believe he's not putting out a 25-LP edition of this.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:41 (two days ago) link

i can't believe his website won't let you copy and paste the text that's on it

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:49 (two days ago) link

it must only be read in its original fidelity

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:55 (two days ago) link

the ONLY website that recreates the memories of digging out your favorite LPs from your dusty file cabinet!

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:56 (two days ago) link

i get frustrated at NYA but also love the sheer audacity of how fucking insane and backwards the ux is

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 October 2020 16:06 (two days ago) link

Yeah the 13 "new" songs is really misleading, One Eye Open otm. There are 13 new songs that have never been released in any for whatsoever, and I think I want to say like 58 alternate and live versions that have been previously unreleased. So I still think it's a pretty cool set, considering the era covered. But as with pretty much anything Neil does, there is a base level of confusion and disappointment that comes with anything he announces.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 October 2020 16:11 (two days ago) link

alternate versions in neil's case can be pretty meaningful too, for example you could say that "white line" off homegrown was already a released song on ragged glory but they might as well be different songs

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 October 2020 16:31 (two days ago) link

In the midst of this, there's a Greendale live archive thing out soon no one's talking about.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 October 2020 16:45 (two days ago) link

49 previously unreleased alternate versions and 13 "new" songs (most of these have not been bootlegged before either). i mean, it's not nothing!

tylerw, Thursday, 22 October 2020 16:47 (two days ago) link

but i mean, yeah ... I must've said it at least three times before on this very thread: Neil should have started releasing definitive "deluxe" reissues of his records 15 years ago with bonus discs. And then continued the "performance series" releases. Would've made all of this very simple and straightforward.

tylerw, Thursday, 22 October 2020 16:50 (two days ago) link

Right, weren't we supposed to be getting that deluxe Ragged Glory this year? But now we get... Greendale? Oh, Neil.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 October 2020 16:54 (two days ago) link

haha i mean greendale is the most *neil* of all neil boondoggles and i don't think he will ever give up on it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:03 (two days ago) link

He loves Greendale

tylerw, Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:04 (two days ago) link

He isn't wrong

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:05 (two days ago) link

Oh I'll buy the Greendale thing to, I just was looking forward to that Ragged Glory thing.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:07 (two days ago) link

too, dammit, thanks Neil

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:07 (two days ago) link

the hearse theater has a song from solo trans today - "i got a problem" - oh man this is gonna be some nutty shit

also "homefires" is up on NYA, great song

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:12 (two days ago) link

i get frustrated at NYA but also love the sheer audacity of how fucking insane and backwards the ux is

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

i know i make fun of it a lot, but i honestly feel this way too!

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:37 (two days ago) link

it is old internet for sure

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:38 (two days ago) link

its so bad

Spottie, Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:38 (two days ago) link

ha yeah its definitely old internet, which I kind of love it for - clearly conceived for the era when people would spend a whole afternoon exploring one website

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:42 (two days ago) link

"there are so many fun detours to get lost in, i feel like i always discover something new when i'm exploring it!" vs 2020: "just gimme the fuckin content as fast and plainly as possible, pls"

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:44 (two days ago) link

neil young, visionary, in the late 70s: i wish there were a way for my fans to have all my music at once, like a virtual file cabinet

neil young, living legend, late 2000s: !! wait a second

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:49 (two days ago) link

The purest, most analog file cabinet.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 October 2020 18:39 (two days ago) link

It's the most analog a digital file cabinet could be. He'll probably find some way to burn it all down in a virtual fire to get the virtual insurance money.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 October 2020 18:43 (two days ago) link

gotta say, for all the complaints, there are tons of amazing things on this set. neil young is the greatest.

tylerw, Thursday, 22 October 2020 20:55 (two days ago) link

there are two tracks up from the green dale live album, they sound really great

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 October 2020 20:57 (two days ago) link

archives update:

10-23-20
Reprise Records, my record company for about 50 years, underestimated the demand for Archives VOLUME II. We were all surprised. It is a beautiful package that I am proud to have made for you. I do feel badly that we did not deliver it to many who were waiting so long for it.

We don’t feel that offering more of a product sold as a limited edition is a good thing to do. Thank you to all who purchased this set.

In 2021 we will be offering more Archives VOLUME II products as Reprise had originally planned, available in all outlets. These, while not the boxed set, will offer all of the of the music and discs with a smaller book. The original large book will be available for separate sale.
Thanks! NYA

tylerw, Friday, 23 October 2020 18:21 (yesterday) link

ok cool, sucks it's not until 2021 though

"as Reprise had originally planned"

i bet the folks who ponied up the $250 would have liked to know this.

Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 23 October 2020 18:37 (yesterday) link

definitely disappointing especially because he finally relented on his ridiculous vinyl prices in the last few years, making them affordable finally

yeah i'm hoping the prime stuff from this release will trickle out on vinyl. future record store days or whatever.

Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 23 October 2020 18:42 (yesterday) link

yeah odeon budokan should definitely be put out as a vinyl set. he could make a killing with the unreleased zuma stuff on a single LP too.

tylerw, Friday, 23 October 2020 19:01 (yesterday) link

^^ would buy

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Friday, 23 October 2020 19:26 (yesterday) link


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