seefeel thread for discussion of relevant informations pertaining to the "quique redux" 2cd superbonus reissue (and other seefeel matters)

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this seems to be the best i can do for a tracklist:

1. Climactic Phase No.3 8m 24s
2. Polyfusion 6m 23s
3. Industrious 6m 40s
4. Imperial 6m 40s
5. Plainsong (Album Version) 7m 43s
6. Charlotte’s Mouth 7m 27s
7. Through You 5m 48s
8. Filter Dub 8m 46s
9. Signals 5m 47s
10. Clique 5m 28s
11. Is It Now? 4m 23s
12. Filter Dub (1-01 Mix) 9m 40s
13. Come Alive (Climactic Phase No.1) 5m 41s
14. Time To Find Me (Alternate Desk Mix) 5m 20s
15. Charlotte’s Mouth (Avant Garde Mix) 7m 27s
16. My Super 20 6m 31s
17. Climactic Phase No.3 (Overnight Mix) 8m 31s
18. Silent Pool 7m 2s


it's on beggar's banquet. it's probably not my favorite seefeel album but i'm in it for the bonus disc there. so, who's excited?

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 15 March 2007 09:13 (fourteen years ago) link

i am! when is this due out?

impudent harlot, Thursday, 15 March 2007 09:27 (fourteen years ago) link

ah, they have a myspace:

We are excited to announce that Seefeel's landmark 1993 LP, 'Quique', is set to be reissued May 14, 2007 on 'Too Pure'.

'Quique (Redux Edition)' will feature two discs; the first containing the original album entirely remastered and sounding better than ever before. The second disc will contain formally unreleased tracks, alternate mixes and a few tracks that were originally relegated to obscure compilations. Here is the track listing for both discs.

Disc One
01 - Climactic Phase #3
02 - Polyfusion
03 - Industrious
04 - Imperial
05 - Plainsong
06 - Charlotte's Mouth
07 - Through You
08 - Filter Dub
09 - Signals

Disc Two

01 - Clique
02 - Is it Now?
03 - Filter Dub (Low Pass Remix)
04 - Come alive (Climactic Phase #1)
05 - Time To Find Me (Alternate Desk Mix)
06 - Charlotte's Mouth (Avant Garde Mix)
07 - My Super 20
08 - Climactic Phase #3 (Overnight Mix)
09 - Silent Pool


wondering if most of the second disc alternate mixes are from dubious-looking astralwerks compilations i never bought.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 15 March 2007 10:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I still listen to Pure/Impure & Quique on a regular basis, & it's remarkable how well Seefeel have aged. I'll wait for reports to come in before deciding to invest in this, which I would do purely for the disc 2 extras. For the uninitiated, though, this would be an excellent & comprehensive starting point.

Dorf Engulf, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Ooh, I had this on clear double vinyl (and therefore it is in another country and I haven't hear it in yonks) once upon a time. It would be interesting to see how they held up, whether they were as prescient as they seemed.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link

all but three of the second disc's tracks are unreleased.

strongohulkington, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:08 (fourteen years ago) link

it's a nice enough addition.

strongohulkington, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Awesome news, but I'm still not sure how to pronounce it. Is it keek? Quick? Queequeg?

Telephone thing, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link

keek

strongohulkington, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link

it's a nice enough addition.


Indeed. No chance of an American release I'm guessing.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 March 2007 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link

You can hear previews of the new tracks
here.

It's going to kick ass. I still listen to Quique, More Like Space, Starethrough and Pure,Impure with a great deal of regularity also. It's just one of those records that was a revelation for me when I first heard it and was a nexus that led to so much other music. I'm still not completely positive how they made that humming guitar haze sound.

William Selman, Thursday, 15 March 2007 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Seefeel had such potential, until they flew off the rails...(didn't Sarah Peacock wind up in an alt-country-ish band called January?)

the AFX mixes of "Time To Find Me" are still a sight for sore ears...

henry s, Thursday, 15 March 2007 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Ok, got it. I guess it is out in N. America.

The bonus tracks are quite good. The alternate mixes aren't as good as the album/ep tracks (except for maybe the dub mix of Filter Dub) but are interesting to listen to hear how the released tracks were put together. Also, I like how they recycled the vocals from the alternate mix of Charlotte's Mouth later in Starethrough.

As far as the others go...why the hell didn't they put Clique out as a single? Almost as catchy as Plainsong, but has an amazing processed vocal that sounds not the least bit dated. Is It Now? sounds like it's going in the direction of the Warp stuff they did later. The driftier tracks are quite nice, but obviously wouldn't fit into the actual album.

Bill in Chicago, Thursday, 26 April 2007 00:51 (fourteen years ago) link

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JW, Thursday, 26 April 2007 01:14 (fourteen years ago) link

ooh, i didn't know about this! going to buy it ASAP. i wouldn't mind if they re-released succour as well, i only have it on vinyl and no record player.

f. hazel, Thursday, 26 April 2007 02:02 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

So, i just picked up all the Seefeel albums...

_Quique
_Succour
_Ch-Vox

...the other day, as well as the EP collection...

_Polyfusia

...and am wondering, what's the best place to start listening to these albums? Should I go chronologically, or in some other order, and why? Also, what are the highlights of each disc, or what should I be on the lookout (listenout?) for with each one? Any other thoughts on Seefeel in general, or these albums?

Thanks, ILM.

stephen, Friday, 12 October 2007 07:45 (thirteen years ago) link

The three Polyfusia releases are cheap on bleep currently - new disjecta ep, autechre remix of spangle and Clifford's new album with Kealoha(?)

http://www.bleep.com/?label=Polyfusia

stephen, choronologically, because they get weirder (and, to me, more interesting). the Ch-Vox is a lot like the Disjecta things on warp rather than Seefeely. Fracture / Tied and Starethrough EPs also essential i think.

koogs, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Fracture / Tied and Starethrough EPs also essential i think.
-- koogs, Friday, October 12, 2007 9:01 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

hey thanks!

(by which i assume you mean, those two EPs have some pretty nice exclusives, yes?)

stephen, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:14 (thirteen years ago) link

yes, and are also some of the best things they've done. plus i like the cover of fracture / tied - designers republic, nice heavy orange card, silver ink, slight embossing...

also worth a listen:
isan remix of when face was face
http://www.cocteautwins.com/html/discography/discog_23.html (cocteaus remixed by clifford)
2x disjecta mini lps on warp

koogs, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:49 (thirteen years ago) link

oh wow! i have that Cocteaus EP, think it's pleasant enough for late Cocteaus material but i haven't given it more than a couple spins really. i had no idea some guy from Seefeel was involved either. i'll have to pull that out tomorrow, then...

thanks!

anyone else?

stephen, Friday, 12 October 2007 10:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Listen to them chronologically as there is definitely a development of their sound and it can be divided into two halves: Too Pure releases and post-Too Pure releases. While the first ep (More Like Space) doesn't sound like a rock band, except for the last track, you can get a sense of rock composition from the songs. This gets thrown out the window on Plainsong when they start adding more and more layers and definitely go for a machine vibe. Quique has moments when it sounds like a rock band, but most of all it's the pinnacle of layering and density in the early sound. Imperial is one of my favorite pieces of music ever.

When they switched to Warp (you really should get Starethrough because it's fucking incredible), they started to strip back the elements so that by the time you get to Ch-Vox, it's so sparse, it's almost like listening to sonar blips. There are some fine moments on these records, but I admit I prefer the earlier ones more. Also, if you can locate it, their contributions to the Ancient Lights and the Black Core compilation on Sub Rosa are some of the highlights of their later work.

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 12 October 2007 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

What Bill said.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 October 2007 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Bill, thanks, that's a fantastic summary. I'm really looking forward to these now, more so than before. I checked the 4 songs on Starethrough, doesn't look like there's any overlap with their full-lengths (or maybe 1 track, i forget). watching a copy of that on eBay right now ;-) so i'll try to snag it for a few bucks.

stephen, Friday, 12 October 2007 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

> Also, if you can locate it, their contributions to the Ancient Lights and the Black Core compilation on Sub Rosa are some of the highlights of their later work.

lots very cheap listed on amazon.com. if only i knew a tame american who could pick up a copy for me...

koogs, Friday, 12 October 2007 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Nope, Starethrough is all non-album material. I remember buying it when it came out and wondering if it was the same band that put out Quique--it's that different from its predecessor.

Also, I highly recommend Mark Clifford's collaboration with Simon Kealoha on Clifford's Polyfusia label. Running Taper is the name. It's much more of a software-processed affair than his other work and sorta reclaims the space between Seefeel and Fennesz.

Otherwise, I think the other side projects are less than the sum of the whole band. There are a few Scala tracks that I like, but they never really did much for me. The first Disjecta album is good (because Looking for Snags sounds exactly like Dubstep circa 1995), but after that until the collaboration mentioned above, I unfortunately found Clifford's stuff hit-or-miss to completely uninteresting. If you can find it, Mark Van Hoen (their engineer aka Locust) put out a really good album in the late 90s called Playing with Time.

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 12 October 2007 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I bought the original last week, as it was available used. I used to be a bit ambivalent about Seefeel, but damn, this album is amazing.

mehlt, Sunday, 21 October 2007 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.bleep.com/?bleep=FUS005

new release on polyfusia. 4 track ep.

01 - Blue-Fi1 (3:32) - Mark Clifford
02 - Blue-Fi2 (2:58) - Mark Clifford
03 - Prychynna (4:31) - Zaudloka
04 - Rankova (Midnight Edit) (6:49) - Zaudloka

koogs, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 08:13 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

Listening to Polyfusia right now. Completely forgot how stunningly gorgeous this record is.

Alex in SF, Friday, 9 May 2008 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

ah yes, stunning record. i think i'll join you in a spin.

stephen, Friday, 9 May 2008 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

It makes me sad that this band isn't as widely revered as, say, The Orb. They really deserve much more praise than they get.

26 Mixes Focaccia (Stevie D), Saturday, 13 December 2008 05:39 (twelve years ago) link

You'd think there would have been primed for some serious critical re-appraisal about 5 years ago or so, when all those MBV-meets-laptronica bands like (early)M83, Ulrich Schnauss & all the Morr acts started popping up all over the place. That shit has Seefeel's fingerprints all over it.

Cat-Wrangler (Pillbox), Saturday, 13 December 2008 05:55 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

Haha, I was about to post here saying what Pillbox just said. I finally snagged this reissue over the weekend and hearing it now in 2009 in such a context is breathtaking. But what's interesting is that while it does predate those styles and predicts them, Quique very much is its own sound, and there's things going on almost track for track (like the astonishing bassline on "Industrious") that few of the modern bunch are either able or willing to try.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 March 2009 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

I listened to this on Spotify and thoroughly enjoyed it. I think I'll listen to it again now.

Zayatte Mondatta (country matters), Monday, 30 March 2009 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

Still prefer Ulrich Schnauss, mind. :p

Zayatte Mondatta (country matters), Monday, 30 March 2009 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

This album came out right around the time I started buying CDs (instead of tapes, ya I M old) and somehow I never got around to buying it on CD or on vinyl, even though I had virtually everything else in Seefeel's catalogue on one of those formats. So basically, since all of my tapes are stashed away somewhere now, I hadn't listened to "Quique" in ages before I bought the reissue. And yeah, it was astonishing to hear it again. It sounds so fresh, novel, and unpredictable these days, which is weird because at the time a lot of people dismissed them as MBV/Cocteau Twins rip-off fetishists!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 30 March 2009 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah this is a 10/10 star totally great album, unfuckwithable. I dug out the reissue last week also and listened to it and was of course blown away.

Does anyone rate the stuff that comes after Quique? I like Polyfusia well enough but haven't given much time to Ch-Vox or that other record of theirs that came later...

ilxor, Monday, 30 March 2009 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

The Starethrough EP is pretty great!

f. hazel, Monday, 30 March 2009 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

anything with "starethrough" on it is necessarily gonna be great, but which one? the warp cd one or the white label?

GÖDEL ESCHER BOCK BOCK BOCK (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 01:24 (twelve years ago) link

aren't they the same?

f. hazel, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 05:46 (twelve years ago) link

Still prefer Ulrich Schnauss, mind. :p
Craziest talk on ILX yet!

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 09:12 (twelve years ago) link

Succor remains my favorite Seefeel by a mile.... they've lost some of the shoegazing qualities, in favor of a more ambient/dub/isolationist character. One of the best things Rephlex ever released; still can't understand why this hasn't gotten a reissue.

http://www.discogs.com/Seefeel-Succour/release/3617

pshrbrn, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 09:16 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

there's things going on almost track for track (like the astonishing bassline on "Industrious") that few of the modern bunch are either able or willing to try

Mebbe cuz the Seefeel guys were at one point rockers? Whereas I could never truly accept M83 as a rock act. Most of Seefeel's distinctiveness, to me, from a 2009 standpoint comes from the feeling that the boundaries between electronic music and rock are still porous.

death from abroad (lukas), Monday, 4 May 2009 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

Seefeel fans, set those turntables to stun! Hot off the heels of Too Pure’s revamped reissuance of the late, lamented London quartet’s 1993 opus Quique, we are beyond thrilled to announce that we’ll bringing this outstanding release to your hi-fi as a 4-platter vinyl set early next year. This fabtabulous offering will be limited to 500 copies (100 of them blue) and brought to you in beautiful gatefold packaging. Nearly 15 years after its debut, this daring exercise in ambient glory sounds every bit as ambitious as it did then, so don’t miss this rare opportunity to rediscover this long out-of-print masterwork in fantastic wax.

That was late 2007 on a clairecords newsletter, guess it never happened.

svend, Monday, 4 May 2009 22:58 (twelve years ago) link

i thought this was pronounced KEE-KAY, like the diminutive of Enrique. Thank you strongo hulkington (RIP) for educating me so i don't make a faux-pas in a hypothetical future Seafeel conversation that I may have.

Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Monday, 4 May 2009 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

I prefer the Moby Dick pronunciation of "kwee-kway" but whatever, it's gorgeous.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 5 May 2009 06:16 (twelve years ago) link

I was sure it was "Keek", at least that's what I remember.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 08:41 (twelve years ago) link

I have been mentally pronouncing it as "kweekweh" but that is because I keep thinking it's a Latin word like "quisque" or "quoque" and it isn't. But as yet I've never had any call to talk about it out loud.

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 10:22 (twelve years ago) link

Whoops, Succour was on Warp (as the link I provided showed!). And MP3s are available on Bleep.com! Let the record show that I'm an idiot.

pshrbrn, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 11:37 (twelve years ago) link

"Keek" is how reviewers were describing the pronunciation at the time...while we on the topic, how's Tricky's debut pronounced?...Max-In-Kway or Max-In-Key?...or neither?...or both?

henry s, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 14:16 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

had not actually encountered this record before finding it the other day; love the way everything just billows outwards around those basslines.

do you think they'll give the re-ish treatment to any of the other stuff? probably gets a bit complicated when it's spread over different labels.

the shane bourne identity (haitch), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 02:26 (eleven years ago) link

eifersucht

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 18:33 (two months ago) link

Ha! No, something more descriptive than that. Something that captures the curious longing but also the acknowledgement that, all being well, it will probably turn up tomorrow. Maybe Saturday.

djh, Thursday, 13 May 2021 18:41 (two months ago) link

seefeelsbadman

Evan, Thursday, 13 May 2021 18:42 (two months ago) link

lol

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Thursday, 13 May 2021 19:48 (two months ago) link

well...

there sounds to be a mastering problem on track 11 of disk 2 - i get a glitch. rewound over it several times, same glitch every time

and i think they may've put the usual 2 second delay between tracks of disk 1 even though a couple of them run together - something sounded odd, certainly. (haven't reproduced that, didn't show up when i was skipping to tracks)

koogs, Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:09 (two months ago) link

I seefeellessbadman about not having received it, now.

djh, Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:31 (two months ago) link

Seriously, though, that sucks. Seems such a shame. Like, presumably someone has played a test pressing or similar?

djh, Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:32 (two months ago) link

http://www.koogy.clara.co.uk/seefeel.png

so here are the two cds ripped as single files and you can see the top one has crept out of sync because of the gaps placed at the starts of the tracks.

and, worse, they've added one where there's a mix into the next track - you can see the tiny bit they've orphaned at the top there. doesn't look much, but sounds terrible.

koogs, Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:58 (two months ago) link

http://www.koogy.clara.co.uk/seefeel2.png

and the other glitch, cd2, track 11, is a gap that shouldn't be there.

koogs, Thursday, 13 May 2021 21:17 (two months ago) link

yikes

Evan, Thursday, 13 May 2021 21:32 (two months ago) link

Is this the CD?

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Thursday, 13 May 2021 22:22 (two months ago) link

yeah.

i made it slightly better using audacity by cutting the silence out and smoothing down the join but it's not that simple. will have another try tomorrow.

koogs, Thursday, 13 May 2021 23:08 (two months ago) link

wonder if the FLACs on Bandcamp will be corrected?

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 14 May 2021 00:11 (two months ago) link

wonder if the FLACs on Bandcamp will be corrected?

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 14 May 2021 00:11 (two months ago) link

sorry I'm drunk and eating ice cream

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 14 May 2021 00:12 (two months ago) link

cd3, ch-vox redux, sounds great though (and i don't know it as much as i thought i did)

koogs, Friday, 14 May 2021 11:01 (two months ago) link

Just ordered the box; apparently the first edition sold out, but importcds had copies for $24 (cheaper than Bleep, and the shipping was *much* cheaper).

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 14 May 2021 13:01 (two months ago) link

so, the things from compilations that are still not collected, a probably incomplete list

Sonics - https://touched.bandcamp.com/album/found-sound-2
Ever Me - https://audioscope.bandcamp.com/album/music-for-a-good-home-3
Is It Now and Ripley - https://subrosalabel.bandcamp.com/album/water-architecture
Lief - Ambient 4 "isolationism"
Phase Maze - Melody Maker Quid Deal cassette
Acrobat - Warp 20 (Maximo Park cover!)
When Face Was Face (isan remix) - Warp 10+3
Air Eyes (In Her Emerald Mix) - Warp 10+3
Spangle (Kid606 Rebootleg Remix) - https://soundcloud.com/kid606/seefeel-spangle-kid606

of which the only one i don't have is the last. less than i thought tbh, but i'm probably thinking of all the little disjecta bits that appeared on compilations and small releases. and the split with zavoloka which was a clifford solo release.

(that isan remix is one of my favourite things ever, they've basically used it as a backing track and written another tune over the top of it)

koogs, Friday, 14 May 2021 17:44 (two months ago) link

(i lie. Touched "Found Sound 2" is different from "Touched 2" so that's another one i don't have)

koogs, Friday, 14 May 2021 17:49 (two months ago) link

Oh, ta for pointing out that ISAN mix. I own it and love both ISAN and Seefeel ... but somehow I'd forgotten it's existence.

djh, Friday, 14 May 2021 18:30 (two months ago) link

This was on a "Volume" mag/CD: Seefeel – Come Alive (Climatic Phase #1 Mix)

djh, Friday, 14 May 2021 18:33 (two months ago) link

(that was also on the quique redux cd though, so i counted that as collected, just not on the new box. volume 7 fwiw)

koogs, Friday, 14 May 2021 18:43 (two months ago) link

Ah, missed that it had been collected.

djh, Friday, 14 May 2021 18:50 (two months ago) link

Time To Find Me (Saturnalia Mix) - The Sound Of Mob Culture
(mp3 here https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/davecinzano/episodes/2006-09-20T12_10_49-07_00 )

koogs, Friday, 14 May 2021 19:04 (two months ago) link

typically great Sherburne p4k piece on the reissues

The bass and drums, cornerstones of everything Seefeel had done until now, have momentarily fallen silent; this is a strictly liquid landscape, a vaporous guitar etude that twists like ink dissipating in water. It is the sound of pure electricity, exhausted and forlorn, a haunted dial tone singing deathbed lullabies.

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/seefeel-rupt-and-flex-1994-96/

assert (MatthewK), Saturday, 15 May 2021 13:45 (two months ago) link

Just picked up the box at my local. Fingers crossed re the glitches (tho I'm not even sure I would notice.)

henry s, Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:56 (two months ago) link

they are on the digital copies too, if the bleep website is indicative - you can hear the worst right at the end of their clip of Monastic.

i wonder if the second pressing will be different?

koogs, Saturday, 15 May 2021 16:22 (two months ago) link

I'm guessing someone has actually told Warp??

djh, Saturday, 15 May 2021 17:19 (two months ago) link

Hmmm. Maybe I'm not very good at this, but I don't detect any glitches at the end of "Monastic" on my copy.

henry s, Saturday, 15 May 2021 17:51 (two months ago) link

not at the end, ~54 seconds in

(the sample on the bleep website is 60 seconds long so it's at the end of that)

koogs, Saturday, 15 May 2021 17:56 (two months ago) link

Ah! Yep, there it is. At least it doesn't skip around, and perhaps this will be something of a collector's item someday, like that upside-down plane stamp.

henry s, Saturday, 15 May 2021 18:08 (two months ago) link

on disc 2 track 9, you can hear them striking the same rib twice in succession yet they produce two clearly different tones

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Saturday, 15 May 2021 18:40 (two months ago) link

I emailed Warp on Friday (Aus time) so will see if I get a reply when they wake up today...
I got my copy from Bleep, so the digital copies from Bleep are definitely affected.
You can tell from the track lengths on Bandcamp that they are too.

FYI I made an edit of "Monastic" to get rid of the glitch - used some identical bars from later on.
Don't want to share here because copyright, but if you own it and want to listen properly, DM me? (I'm here so rarely I don't even know how that works!)

raven, Sunday, 16 May 2021 23:05 (two months ago) link

Monastic is a previously-unreleased track, no? Maybe the glitch is meant to be there.

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Sunday, 16 May 2021 23:31 (two months ago) link

raven's fix is nice btw, invisible mending, i was impressed.

i would say from both hearing and seeing that it's not deliberate. it occurs only once and the hole is too ragged, the silence too flat.

koogs, Monday, 17 May 2021 01:59 (two months ago) link

Thanks koogs, yeah I've done this before :)
Agreed, it's not deliberate. There's actually part of at least a bar missing, and a tiny bit of pure silence. It's a mistake.

Haven't heard back from Warp yet (but then why would they reply to some random? Well, maybe they will.)

raven, Monday, 17 May 2021 08:51 (two months ago) link

Fairly certain that if you're suggesting something is faulty then they should/would.

djh, Thursday, 20 May 2021 17:41 (two months ago) link

They ain't, I'm afraid.
I just posted a comment on Warp's Facebook page to try and get their attention :)

raven, Friday, 21 May 2021 12:46 (two months ago) link

These might be sourced from downmix DATs so could it be a tape dropout/error?

assert (MatthewK), Friday, 21 May 2021 20:29 (two months ago) link

I decided to fire up Audacity and fix the Monastic glitch as well... it's pretty wild that we're at a point where we (well, we're probably more on the nerd end of society than the average) can just kinda casually correct such errors and get on with things... sure the glitch is on the CD, but I listen to the FLACs or mp3s 99% of the time so

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Sunday, 30 May 2021 18:39 (one month ago) link

So nobody ever got a reply from Warp about this, hey?
They're just gonna slide on, pretending there's nothing wrong?

raven, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 13:34 (one month ago) link

I read on the Hoffman forum that they are fixing it for the second pressing. I understand they have withdrawn the first pressing for sale. Its listed as 'available in mid July' or something. A manufacturing error that is not on the DATs.

ringworm, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:56 (one month ago) link

I wonder if that's why I never got my physical copy?

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:58 (one month ago) link

Interesting to hear, ringworm! Wonder if those of us who got the first pressing (at least direct) will get a fix...

raven, Thursday, 10 June 2021 03:41 (one month ago) link

I thought if anyone was gonna complain about audio quality/glitches they'd be all over it. Sure'nuff a quick google turned up their thread! https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/seefeel-reissues-may-14-2021.1076263/

ringworm, Thursday, 10 June 2021 08:17 (one month ago) link

Someone pasted this from Bleep, I think
"We are aware of this, yes. I have been speaking to the production team at Warp today and they are hoping to get these issues resolved asap in terms of replacing discs (including for those who have already purchased) and updating the digital downloads where necessary"

ringworm, Thursday, 10 June 2021 08:19 (one month ago) link

Interesting to read in the Simon Reynolds interview that "Charlotte's Mouth" turned into "Starethrough" which then turned into "Ch-vox" – been listening to those for years, but never caught the (pretty clear) similarity until playing them one after another.

with hidden noise, Friday, 11 June 2021 01:36 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

new interview here:

https://toneglow.substack.com/p/tone-glow-070-seefeel

disraeli grinds my gears (NickB), Monday, 28 June 2021 13:45 (three weeks ago) link

Great interview!

I wonder if Mark and Sarah ever saw this? (forward to 9'59")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLGs41vQ8EU

Maresn3st, Monday, 28 June 2021 14:10 (three weeks ago) link

"Sarah lived in Basingstoke!" was one of my main takeaways from the interview (I also did).

djh, Monday, 28 June 2021 18:27 (three weeks ago) link


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