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Dam dud spend time in rural ireland before he returned to Germany so not sure if he picked up any English here. I think he was pretty quiet so possibly not a great deal.

Stevolende, Thursday, 4 February 2021 06:19 (three years ago) link

Xpost it's possible but I doubt it.

Mark G, Thursday, 4 February 2021 08:17 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

New series of archival live albums coming! The first is Live in Stuttgart 1975 and there's an excerpt on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da6bXpkbwzs

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link

CAN

J. Sam, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link

...and will!

J. Sam, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

J. Sam, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link

great news obv but man what I wouldn't give for a soundboard quality recording of these folks

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link

there's some, but not a ton, I'd have to dig

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:17 (three years ago) link

Live CAN incoming!! 🎉💥😀

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link

the Radio Days boot LP has some killer FM live stuff iirc

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link

i think this stuttgart thing is a soundboard ... there's a fair amount of live can soundboards out there. like the Box Music set.

tylerw, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link

the live excerpts from the Lost Tapes set are truly bonkers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aI2PzN7j24

tylerw, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:32 (three years ago) link

listening to that stuttgart excerpt, even if its not a soundboard it might as well be, sounds great

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:34 (three years ago) link

can't hear too much CAN

Brad C., Wednesday, 24 February 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link

awesome! am i allowed to hope that these will be cd/download releases as well and not vinyl only

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 20:48 (three years ago) link

if it's vinyl only I will buy it and rip it for you

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

srsly

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

2CD set available for pre-order in the Mute store.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

boom

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 20:59 (three years ago) link

Random Hold probably were the band that tried hardest to actually straddle prog and new wave, to very little acclaim.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link

Sorry, meant for the Genesis thread.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:01 (three years ago) link

Holy shit this is incredible news, particularly when this is just the first in a series!

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link

There's at least one live set by Can up on Spotify taht I hadn'tseen before like 2 weeks ago.
Surprised me because they're playing tracks taht are from soundtrack work . KInd of assumed a s/trk th8ng might be a very ephemeral thing that would only have been played in tandem with a replay of teh film involved though don't know their actual methodology with things like that.
Reminds me I picked up a 3lp set under irmin Schmidt's name at one point without a cover so I really don't know details of who was involved does sound like several tracks with can though that I really enjoyed. THink it cost me like £1 if that at the time .

Stevolende, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:26 (three years ago) link

Eins, Zwei, Drei, Vier, Fünf!
Which probably means one of them will be split over two sides so I'll probably go for the cd option. Excited for the whole series!

willem, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:27 (three years ago) link

whatever, I'm getting the vinyl, long live CAN

frogbs, Thursday, 25 February 2021 02:20 (three years ago) link

Hope more Damo-era material surfaces tbqh

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 25 February 2021 02:41 (three years ago) link

^^^

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 25 February 2021 03:17 (three years ago) link

Vinyl (already sold out on in UK mute store) seems not to contain "Fünf":
Side A: Eins
Side B: Zwei
Side C: Drei (Part 1)
Side D: Drei (Part 2)
Side E: Drei (Part 3)
Side F: Vier

willem, Thursday, 25 February 2021 09:14 (three years ago) link

It's still for order at Mutebank? But indeed does not contain "Fünf", regrettably.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 February 2021 10:05 (three years ago) link

I was one day late and missed it??? 😢 not Fünf

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:28 (three years ago) link

Says both CD and LP version are available in the US Mute store.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:37 (three years ago) link

right here https://store.mute.com/browse/can/products/can-live-in-stuttgart-1975

a (waterface), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:49 (three years ago) link

got it thank you!!

ordered

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link

I guess the lp version gives you the download with fünf

Mark G, Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link

I'm listening to "Jilala" by Jilala, Brion Gysin & Paul Bowles’ legendary 1966 recordings of Moroccan Sufi trance rituals which is often cited as being an influence on Can. I was previuously sceptical that its influence could be heard in Can's music but I can definitely detect some "Mushroom" DNA here.

stirmonster, Thursday, 25 February 2021 20:10 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

one thing that always surprises me when I revisit their catalogue is how great all the recordings sound. especially something like Monster Movie, freaky psychedelic rock from 1969....it sounds like it could've been recorded yesterday.

frogbs, Sunday, 11 April 2021 02:14 (three years ago) link

Agree, but also recording tech was better then than now so that is why.

everything, Sunday, 11 April 2021 02:32 (three years ago) link

true but how many weirdass European bands had access to that? I can think of a lot of great 70's ones that certainly didn't.

frogbs, Sunday, 11 April 2021 02:35 (three years ago) link

Yeah makes sense. Great production was available to those who wanted and could afford it.

everything, Sunday, 11 April 2021 02:57 (three years ago) link

CAN's studio always sounded like it was pretty amazing

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 11 April 2021 03:14 (three years ago) link

I'd say the main reason for that is Holger Czukay. They certainly did not have a lot of expensive equipment!

Aside from a very basic sound mixer, four microphones and four cheap pairs of headphones manufactured by the German post office (which Czukay was proud to tell everyone had cost him only one Deutschmark apiece), the centre of Can's recording setup was two quarter‑inch Revox two‑track machines.

Also worth remembering, that everything from "Monster Movie" to "Tago Mago" was recorded at Schloss Norvenich, they didn't move to Inner Space Studio till the end of 1971.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 April 2021 09:25 (three years ago) link

future days is just incredible sounding, I'm guessing the set up was more sophisticated by then. maybe not as much as I'd expect

I always assumed the foregrounded bass & drums on that album were based on sly & tfs' fresh but just found out they were both released around the same time. so whose idea it was to mix it like that and why idk but it works

new display name (Left), Sunday, 11 April 2021 11:37 (three years ago) link

Future Days is one of the most magical sounding albums ever.

dan selzer, Sunday, 11 April 2021 11:57 (three years ago) link

in my experience if the rhythm section is badass you can't really go wrong foregrounding it in the mix (see: every reggae track ever)

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 11 April 2021 11:59 (three years ago) link

No, they were using the same set up on "Future Days", they didn't move to 16-track till 1975. The interesting thing about "Future Days" is that Czukay and Liebezeit weren't happy with the mix on "Bel Air", they thought the rhythm section was too loud!

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 April 2021 12:38 (three years ago) link

I'd say the rhythm section was foregrounded on all of Can's recordings before "Future Days", if anything it seems like maybe they were trying to get away from that on "Future Days" and subsequent recordings?

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 April 2021 12:43 (three years ago) link

some more about the recording setup at Schloss Norvenich, from https://www.loudersound.com/features/can-the-making-of-landmark-album-tago-mago

They had what Czukay calls “the perfect reverberation room” – a 40-square-metre chamber lined with cardboard egg cartons stuck on the wall by the band. “They didn’t help acoustically,” says the bassist, “but we pretended they did.” But their forward-looking musical vision wasn’t matched by their primitive equipment. They laid down basic tracks using a pair of two-track tape recorders. They had just three microphones, shared between Liebezeit and Suzuki. There was no mixing console. “Everything bled,” says Czukay, who recorded the album. “Balance was difficult. But the album has amazing acoustic qualities, even if the sound quality is junk.”

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 11 April 2021 12:46 (three years ago) link

there was obviously a huge leap in audio quality between taco and ege, much more space and “liquidity”

brimstead, Sunday, 11 April 2021 16:33 (three years ago) link

Business idea: Taco Mago taco stand

In on the killfile (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 11 April 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link

I'll have the ege taco to go

doug watson, Sunday, 11 April 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link


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