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I've never heard them. Should I?

Poops Mcgee, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Yes. Definitely. The first five of records are ACE. Can't go wrong with those. Future Days is my fave record.

nathalie, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Uh, yes, you should.

Search: The first six albums (Monster Movie, Soundtracks, Tago Mago (!), Ege Bamyasi, Future Days, Soon Over Babaluma).

Destroy: Pretty much everything else, although Landed has its moments.

lee g, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Depends what else you like - but yes, hear them. All the world will tell you to get Ege Bamyasi or Tago Mago - But some of the later stuff is just as cool. I suggest the 2 disc Anthology (it's easy to find) -

Everyone else will fill in the rest.... I'm too tired.

Dave225, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The only Can track that has ever done something for me is "Animal Waves", one of the early instrumental world music tracks in 1977. Very intense atmosphere. Especially "You Doo Right" should be destroyed, bloody embarrassing chorus.

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Maybe my favorite band ever (along with the Fall). First 5 albums are ridiculously good. Any of them is a great starting point.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Search: everything they recorded from 1971 until 1975. I also like the early stuff, but IMO it just isn't on the same level.

Destroy: DISCO CAN! Otherwise known is just about everything post- Landed. I actually know a guy who claims this is his favorite period by Can. I believe him to be mentally ill.

dleone, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

How about Can gone solo?

Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I still haven't heard TAGO MAGO (which -- I'm repeatedly told -- is their finest hour), but MONSTER MOVIE's pretty fantastic -- if only for the epic-length "Yoo Doo Right".

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

DLeone is on the money about the 1971-75 period, but sadly wrong about Disco Can. The idea (and sound) of aging rockprofs harnessing their sonic explorations to the thrill of the glitterball is fantastic. I Want More is monumental.

Dr. C, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Also search: 'Delay 1968', pre-'Monster Movie' tracks which are punk as fuck and a major major source for the early Fall sound, 'Unlimited Edition', a collection of unreleased tunes that's got some essential early Malcolm Mooney-era songs, as well as quite a lot of self- indulgent old pony, and the 'Peel Sessions' rec., which I think is quite a good way into the post-Damo era. I even quite like 'Rite Time', the very late Mooney 'reunion' alb, and 'Saw Delight', which I think is far and away their most effective world/disco fusion disc.

'Monster Movie' is still my fave, tho' - and personally I LOVE the lyrics to 'Yoo Doo Right' (so does Bobby Gillespie - he pretty much lifted them wholesale for 'Movin' On Up'....)

Destroy: the mostly v. poor remix alb.

Andrew L, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Nothing by Can is worth destroying, but everything else is worth searching out. Of course, only each note that they've ever recorded achieves "classic" status, since all of the other stuff is clearly dud.

J, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

for some reason my mind has been reverse magnetized on CAN i think monster movie and tago mago are dull plodding rock and i only start getting excited as their career slides into the crirical doldrums and they go discotastic

bob snoom, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I agree with what most people have already said- Tago Mago, Future Days and Ege Bamyasi are essential. Moonshake is my favorite song and Tago Mago does more for me than any Pink Floyd album (with the exception of Piper at the Gates of Dawn). The live Can: Box Music is also fantastic.

lou, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Tago Mago does more for me than any Pink Floyd album

Isn't that the equivalent of saying, "This Nations Saving Grace" does more for me than anthing that John Mellencamp ever did." ..?

Dave225, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'd take Mellencamp over The Fall.

Can is awesome. I wouldn't put them in the same "must hear" category as somebody like Kraftwerk, though. All the albums I have (thru Future Days) have both dull moments and great tracks. I kind of wish they'd been an instrumental band.

Mark, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Dave- Ok, so there are a lot of differences between Can and Pink Floyd. That was a pretty dumb statement to make, I admit.

lou, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Probably my favourite band. In order of how I like 'em : Ege Bamyasi, Unlimited Edition, Tago Mago, Soon Over, Future Days, Monster Movie, Soundtracks, Rare and Unreleased (just for the single B-Sides) and then the rest.

Ege mainly has shorter distinct songs which may be your cup of tea whilst Future Days is the proto ambient one.

philT, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

It's very unorthodox to say, but I think 'Soundtracks' is a great place to start. The songs are shorter, more focused, really psychedelic... and it's got "Mother Sky" - not short, but perhaps my favorite Can moment (but there really are a lot of great moments, and you should check the band out in any case). There are lots of people who are "early Can"-ers - the rocking, garage-psych THUDTHUDTHWACKTHUD stuff. Then there are plenty of mid-period fans - the weird, bubbling funky albums. I haven't heard anything past 'Soon Over Babaluma', so I can't comment on that period of the band.

Clarke B., Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I kind of wish they'd been an instrumental band.
Absolutely the singing is the weak point. One reason that Animal Waves is so good is that no one from the band sings on it.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Totally disagree. Both Michael Mooney and Damo Suzuki are important ingredients to Can's sound.

It starts getting good from Soundtracks on. Future Days is simply awesome.

The whole disco period is ok, if you're a big Can fan, but I wouldn't start there (although I love Holger Czukay's "Movies" album).

Braces Tower, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'm surprised to see so much praise heaped on Monster Movie. I don't like it at all -- I found it boring, pretentious, and vaguely embarrassing, and can't really imagine what people who like it so much are hearing in it. Perhaps I need to dig it out again and give it another try, but...

What I've heard of Ege Bamyasi and Tago Mago sounded appealing, especially the former.

Phil, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i haven't heard it inna couple years to be sure, but there's this solo that erupts in the middle of "father cannot yell" which sounds like either a. a tape-slice glitch or b. karoli playing fucking backwards. it was then that i knew can were genius.

anyway, my favorite is still probably future days although everything they did has moments.

jess, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I guess some of you will find this funny but a band called The Creeping Nobodies will be opening for Damo Suzuki in Toronto next month.
How many Fall references can one squeeze into a bill?

Mr Noodles, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Search: the records that everybody else mentioned, and I should add that "Aspectacle" (from the s/t album, in their disco period) is actually pretty great. I'm fond of _Delay 1968_, too, in a different way.

Destroy: _Out of Reach_, which the band hated so much it's never been reissued, and with good reason.

Douglas, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i prefer th' faith healers

bob snoom, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

or ganger. in a similar vein to me prefering aphex twin to cluster and trumans water to faust. old music sounds old unless you are old (nothing WRONG with that!)

bob snoom, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...
does anyone know whether Future Days is available on vinyl? has it ever been reissued? (maybe someone knows whether it will be sometime?) or is the only chance i have at obtaining a vinyl copy the 2nd hand shop or frikkin' ebay...

willem (willem), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 12:14 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

Tons of Can threads so might as well revive this one for this link -- Irwin Schmidt on food, music and democracy:

http://thequietus.com/articles/00813-irmin-schmidt-of-can-on-food-and-cooking-plus-a-recipe-tip

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 06:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I know it's not meant to be any good, but the completist in me needs to buy a copy of 'Out Of Reach' - are any of the CD versions better or worse than others in terms of sound quality? I've read that, since it's been disowned and not officially reissued, the CD versions often come from poorly done vinyl transfers.
Any tips for which of the grey-area CD versions to try and locate?

Thanks

krakow, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 13:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

If there's a Can forum or similar where such a question might also have been answered by knowledgeable geeks then please point me that way too.

krakow, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 13:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

I dont know about sound quality, but there are several different versions floating around - at least in Europe. The one released by Audelic contains Out Of Reach and the self titled album and is pretty cheap, there should be also a more recent version from Cleopatra (!) that according our supplier's database should be easily available.

Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 15:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

Thanks Marco. I didn't think to check for standardly available copies, assuming that the grey-area aspect would write them off, but I think I see the copy you mention, thought the UK distributor for Cleopatra isn't entirely clear and we definitely don't deal with whoever Synergie are ourselves. I'll try to see if maybe Cargo, F-Minor or PHD have it on their books.

krakow, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 15:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think that all these versions are basically non-legit.
I saw the Cleopatra version is available through Bertus, a big Dutch supplier: I'm pretty sure all good UK distributors work with them.

Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 15:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Cheers, that will probably help to know. If I can get it through the shop that's a bonus as I have a lot of left over holiday pay to write off.

krakow, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 15:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

add to search: the peel sessions - "Up the Bakerloo Line w/Annie" sounds like an acid trip. in a good way

If you can believe your eyes and ears (outdoor_miner), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 16:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

I found it on a mp3 blog a few nights ago, Haven't listend to it yet.... not actually sure I want to. nothing worse than a bad album by a favourite band.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 17:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh, I know it's not meant to be good. I want it purely for completeness reasons.

krakow, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

Is it 'bad'?

Or just 'bad by their standards'?

Mark G, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 08:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

It is truly and definitely BAD: the eponymous album has more than a couple of good moments, but Out Of Reach is pretty indefensible.
That said, I'm the proud owner of a copy exactly for the same reasons of Krakow. :)
The BBC album, instead, is marvellous and a fascinating glimpse into the band's compositional methods.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 09:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

The best things on it are the Rosko Gee songs

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 10:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

Anyone else think "Inner Space" is under-rated? I'm not sure it's up there with the canonical records, but it's close IMO.

Neil S, Saturday, 20 November 2010 12:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

first time I've heard the recorded version of this track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxFYCE6VIt4&feature=related

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 20:20 (six years ago) Permalink

delay is ok... "the thief" is a banger

fennel cartwright, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 23:53 (six years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Is Cannibalism worth bothering with? The remix of Yoo Doo Right sounds like warmed-over trip hop to me...

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Friday, 7 October 2011 12:30 (six years ago) Permalink

you mean Sacriliege? the Cannabalism albums are just compilations

frogbs, Friday, 7 October 2011 13:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Cannibalism 2 has a few of my fave Can moments (the crazy/fun Mother Upduff is supposedly a true story; Turtles Have Short Legs one of damo's best vocals; Shikiku Maru Ten also excellent wierdness)
the first Cannibalism is less essential if you already have the early Can records but there's a few different mixes iirc.
and yeah, Sacrilege had a couple pieces i liked but i only recall the Sonic youth one right now....

epigram addict (outdoor_miner), Friday, 7 October 2011 13:20 (six years ago) Permalink

cannibalism ii's just such a great listen - it's edited together so well, the first clutch of songs p much sync up & match jaki's drums up iirc.

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Friday, 7 October 2011 13:22 (six years ago) Permalink

I never tried Cannibalism 1 since I have all the albums, plus I hate how "Yoo Doo Right" is the only full length piece there. Cannibalism 2 seems good but if you have Radio Waves and Unlimited Edition then it's kinda superfluous. Cannibalism 3 is a collection of solo material and it's actually pretty entertaining (though disappointing if you're expecting a lot of great instrumental stuff). As for the remix collection, I really thought it was a big wasted opportunity, you'll probably wind up liking 1-2 of the remixes and find the others a waste of time

frogbs, Friday, 7 October 2011 13:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Ah yes, sorry, I do mean Sacrilege. It's the 3p mix of Yoo Doo Right that didn't sound too great to me, some of the other remixers might do a better job though.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Friday, 7 October 2011 13:25 (six years ago) Permalink

definitely something worth reissuing officially. there was a bootleg of it on LP and that's it.

scott seward, Monday, 22 January 2018 02:27 (six months ago) Permalink

is there an insert or any more text / print in the sleeve?

calstars, Monday, 22 January 2018 02:30 (six months ago) Permalink

ty Scott

calstars, Monday, 22 January 2018 02:53 (six months ago) Permalink

<3 jaki-for-hire <3

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 22 January 2018 21:37 (six months ago) Permalink

this sounds good! pretty Floyd-y.

tylerw, Monday, 22 January 2018 21:47 (six months ago) Permalink

v nice, ty Scott!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 22 January 2018 22:11 (six months ago) Permalink

Info about Czukay trove over on Rolling Reissues 2018, just got this press sheet:

CAN

ANNOUNCE NEW BOOK

ALL GATES OPEN: THE STORY OF CAN
BY ROB YOUNG & IRMIN SCHMIDT

AVAILABLE MAY 5 VIA FABER & FABER
Faber & Faber are proud to announce All Gates Open, the definitive story of the most influential and revered avant-garde band of the late twentieth century: Can. It consists of two books and previously unseen art and photos.

In book one, All Gates Open, Rob Young gives us the full biography of a band that emerged at the vanguard of the Krautrock scene in late sixties Cologne. Can’s studio and live performances burned an incendiary trail through the decade that followed, and left a legacy that is still reverberating today in hip hop, post-rock, ambient, and countless other genres. Rob Young’s account draws on unique interviews with all the founding members of Can, their vocalists, friends and music industry associates. And he revisits the music, which is still deliriously innovative and unclassifiable more than four decades on. All Gates Open is a portrait of a group who worked with visionary intensity and belief, outside the system and inside their own inner space.

Book two, Can Kiosk, has been assembled by Irmin Schmidt, founding member and guiding spirit of the band, as a “collage” – a technique long associated with Can’s approach to recording. There is an oral history of the band, collated by former Electronic Beats and Spex editor Max Dax, and Robert Defcon, drawing on interviews Irmin conducted with musicians who see Can as an influence. These musicians include the likes of Bobby Gillespie, Geoff Barrow, Mark E. Smith, Daniel Miller and many others, but also with artists and film-makers like Wim Wenders and John Malkovich, where Irmin reflects on more personal matters and his work with film. Extracts from Irmin’s notebooks and diaries from 2013–14 are also reproduced as a reflection on the creative process, and the memories, dreams and epiphanies it entails. Can Kiosk offers further perspectives on a band that has inspired several generations of musicians and film-makers.

Note: The limited edition of All Gates Open will be available to pre-order beginning Thursday, April 5 at www.faber.co.uk.

Can were unique and their legacy is articulated in this two-book volume with the depth, rigor, originality and intensity associated with the band itself.

Irmin Schmidt is a composer and founding member of Can, and has scored more than one hundred soundtracks, released a dozen solo albums and written an opera, Gormenghast, based on the novels of Mervyn Peake. In 2015, he was made a Chevalier de l’Ordre des Arts et des Lettres. He lives in southern France.

Rob Young’s books include the acclaimed Electric Eden: Unearthing Britain’s Visionary Music, and histories of record labels Rough Trade and Warp. A former editor of The Wire magazine, he has contributed to publications including Uncut, the Guardian, Sight & Sound, Frieze and Art Review. He lives in Oslo.

dow, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:46 (six months ago) Permalink

looking forward to this!

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:32 (six months ago) Permalink

same -- i've only read Electric Eden but it ruled

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:43 (six months ago) Permalink

Yeah this looks really good.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:54 (six months ago) Permalink

For review queries, check w Jared Dionne on Mute site or Dan Papps on Faber.

dow, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:12 (six months ago) Permalink

Not sure about the fictional digressions in Electric Eden so hope this is a straight biography.
Looking forward to reading it.
Would still really like a copy of the Pascal Bussy Can Book, hoped that was getting a reprint a few years back but it never appeared as far as I know.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:13 (six months ago) Permalink

I hope it's possible to buy the first book separately. No offence, Boaby.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:18 (six months ago) Permalink

i'm almost certain it's two "books" bound as one volume

budo jeru, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 23:01 (six months ago) Permalink

also thanks to everybody in this thread for the great links etc. this past week

budo jeru, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 23:06 (six months ago) Permalink

too much flute around for me personally. what's that other really early david johnson era recording they did? prehistoric future?

― Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Thursday, January 18, 2018 11:02 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah and it rules. super blown-out and messy, sort of on that early amon düül vibe

budo jeru, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 23:09 (six months ago) Permalink

Yeah that Kamasutra thing was super great. Prehistoric Future was more like ‘inspiring and important to hear but might not listen again’.

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 13:30 (six months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

an advance review copy of ALL GATES OPEN landed in my loving arms thanks to a partner who works at a place where books are reviewed
i'm about 60 pages in, enjoying immensely so far.

reading about the early days of the formation of the group is especially interesting. i also did not know that irmin schmidt was inspired by the stomp of early music for some of the early Can tracks. he said "a lot of this music had an unbelievable rhythm; the people sang hard, so that they yelled it out"
that's right!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:14 (four months ago) Permalink

Looking forward to that, official release is 3rd May & there's a talk tour tied in with the release around tehn so coming up fast. There's a date i Dublin I noticed earlier.

Would still love a copy of the old Can Book by Pascal Bussy

Stevolende, Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:20 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

This book really delivers! Is anyone else reading it yet? There is a very detailed description of how Mother Sky was made that I personally have never read before and found illuminating.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 14:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Didn't know it was out tbh.

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 14:21 (two months ago) Permalink

(xp) Let me guess, the end section is a tape loop? (Mother Sky that is, not the book).

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 14:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Nothing about a tape loop so far -- Irmin shuttled back and forth from where the filmmakers were and decided on cues, structure, mood and then he went back to Inner Space/the castle and explained to the band what they should do. I loled when I read that the band wasn't interested in the details of the movie anyway. Jaki confirmed this process and said "we simply made the music and it always fit." I am enjoying this book so much.

you can read about the book here https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/may/07/all-gates-open-story-of-can-rob-young-irmin-schmidt-review

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 14:30 (two months ago) Permalink

my copy arrived a couple of weeks ago and has been sitting on my desk taunting me ever since

picked a bad time to have a baby tbh, i should have thought ahead

i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:23 (two months ago) Permalink

not to derail the thread but congrats on babby bg!

Toto Cuomo (NickB), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:32 (two months ago) Permalink

Am at Soon Over Babaluma so far. been interesting. Shame Damo didn't want to be interviewed especially if he did go and get interviewed by Mojo right around the time the book was released.

Enjoying it, would still really like to read the Pascal bussy book. Not sure why I never got around to getting it. Found out it came out in '89 through SAF so wondering if I at least got to look at it.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:33 (two months ago) Permalink

I've got the Pascal Bussy book, it's fairly skimpy.

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:36 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh right. I've been building it up on my head since it was supposed to be being reissued about 10 years ago. Possibly because it was the book on Can.
I guess i have what I need now then.
Or would do if i get all the visual footage as well as the rest of the audio.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:41 (two months ago) Permalink

(babby’s not here quite yet btw, just been busy prepping! thx anyway nick :D)

i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:43 (two months ago) Permalink

It's a bit like the Wire book on SAF being comprehensively superseded by that other Wire published a couple of years ago.

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:44 (two months ago) Permalink

other Wire book, that should read.

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:49 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah still need to read that too.
But wasn't the older Wire one getting slagged before the newer one appeared somewhat or am i thinking of a 3rd Wire book.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:02 (two months ago) Permalink

i am glad i waited to read this book! it's got everything i wanted to know about so far. the guardian review complains that it doesn't get far enough into the other "personalities" of the band members, but that hasn't bothered me so far. not only do some people prefer to keep their professional and personal lives separate, not everyone wants to know that stuff. i think it's fine the way it is. his complaints about Rob Young's florid descriptions are otm if you dislike florid description but apparently i like it!

congrats on your babby, the book will still be there when you're ready :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:10 (two months ago) Permalink

i am enjoying Irmin's contributions specifically. even if he is biased because he is Irmin Schmidt, it's always good to get a firsthand recollection of process and intention. at least i am enjoying that.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:17 (two months ago) Permalink

xps yeah i found the bussy book to be disappointingly lightweight.

visiting, Friday, 1 June 2018 18:30 (two months ago) Permalink

Has some good quotes in it, mostly from Jaki.

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:32 (two months ago) Permalink

More from Irmin:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b3fkx3

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Friday, 1 June 2018 19:13 (two months ago) Permalink

quick update, is Oh Yeah the greatest song ever recorded why yes it is

startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 8 June 2018 10:14 (two months ago) Permalink

Is that the one that's based on Bix Beiderbecke or is it "Mushroom"? Started reading this, I'm up to "Ege Bamyasi". A lot of it I already knew and I've read a lot of the quotes before but there's some great stuff, particularly on Malcolm Mooney, and what about Stockhausen's letter to the newspapers to try to prevent Damo being deported - nice one KH! One quibble is I find Rob Young's opinions on the music very predictable and canonical, there's a lot of 'the longer the song is the more important it is' going on so far.

We can be herpes (Tom D.), Friday, 8 June 2018 10:31 (two months ago) Permalink

I dug out "Unlimited Edition" a couple of days ago, and I have to say it's mostly alright. I recant my postings from Can - finally remastered onwards, but I will add that the 'the longer the song is the more important it is received wisdom does not apply to this one.

Mark G, Friday, 8 June 2018 11:16 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh Yeah is the greatest song ever recorded. It's the track that cracked this band for me, after much effort with Ege Bamyasi that wasn't clicking. I eventually realized I was primed to be struck by Oh Yeah because for a long while Nick Cave's Tupelo was the greatest song ever recorded, and it's sort of Oh Yeah with a whole lot of words on top.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Friday, 8 June 2018 11:17 (two months ago) Permalink

I heard "Tupelo" ont' radio the other day, and Oh Yeah I agree.

Mark G, Friday, 8 June 2018 11:18 (two months ago) Permalink

Not hearing the resemblance but, goodness, I can't imagine listening to early Nick Cave anymore.

We can be herpes (Tom D.), Friday, 8 June 2018 11:23 (two months ago) Permalink

what about Stockhausen's letter to the newspapers to try to prevent Damo being deported - nice one KH!
Yes! My favorite line was "Society dearly needs birds like these>"

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 8 June 2018 13:13 (two months ago) Permalink

one more night
mom sky
oh yeah
future days
butterfly

imo

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Friday, 8 June 2018 17:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh Yeah is def the greatest song ever recorded, and it's surprising that I love it so much since I usually don't like things where like, half of it is backwards.

dan selzer, Friday, 8 June 2018 17:17 (two months ago) Permalink

I often think of Karoli's guitar solo as he's de-tuning his guitar circa 2:30 of "Oh Yeah" before Damo switches to Japanese:

ひとりでそこに座ってる
頭のイカレた奴
虹の上から小便
我らがヒモと呼ぶ
LSDの街から
離れ餓鬼を怖れ
朝がまだこないのを
幸いなことに

"The crazy guy
Sitting alone over there
Pisses from atop rainbows
We call him our pimp
We leave the LSD town
And fearing hungry ghosts
We take it as a lucky thing
That morning still won’t come"

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 8 June 2018 18:16 (two months ago) Permalink


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