Rob Sheffield's Love is a Mix Tape

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Didn't see a thread about this... Anyone else read it? I devoured it pretty quickly, then read through much of it a second time. One of the best books (music or otherwise) I've read in years. The writing about Renée Crist--Sheffield's wife who died of a pulmonary embolism in 1997--was heartbreaking, harrowing, and (at least during their years together) very funny and moving and alive. The book is a great love song, and it makes every love song in the world sound greater and sadder and more beautiful than it ever did before (if that sounds hokey as fuck--you really need to read it).

Wasn't fully convinced by Rob's arguments about the '90s being the greatest of pop decades--I mean, I wasn't convinced when he took that argument beyond his personal reasons for feeling that way. It's not like he really had to take it beyond the personal, but in doing so I think he should've taken it further than he does, if that makes sense. It's not that I do or don't agree with the premise, btw, it's that I don't think he made a strong enough case (there's an interesting Avril anecdote, but it's not enough). Anyway, that's just one small part I wasn't really getting. Otherwise, it's completely brilliant, and I'm guessing I might find High Fidelity somewhat embarrassing in comparison were I to go back to it (which I have absolutely no intention of doing).

Also, an eminmently quotable book. Would love to come back to this thread with some choice quotes, but I don't have the book handy right now.

s w00ds (sw00ds), Thursday, 8 February 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

It's on my list. I've been fighting Sheffield agnostics for years.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 8 February 2007 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

great book.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The Sheffield Agnostics. Good name for a band.

s w00ds (sw00ds), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I almost picked it up the other night, but the hardback was too rich for my wallet. I'll wait til it's in paperback.

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Hardcover was too much for me too, so I ordered it from Amazon. Should be coming soon and I'm looking forward to it.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Really good book -- moving without being manipulative. I read it on a plane and had to put it down a couple of times to avoid a scene (it didn't help that my wife wasn't traveling with me). I don't agree with Sheffield's blanket statement that the 90s were the greatest of pop decades, although I do agree with his assertions as to why. That whole chapter seemed a little like an afterthought -- interesting, but not essential.

deusner (deusner), Thursday, 8 February 2007 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I really enjoyed it. His contributions to Spin's guide were such a highlight, but I hadn't been all that impressed with anything of his that I had read since then. I think my favorite part was his description of a 1991 Pavement concert, after expecting the band to be "manly and jaded...star[ing] at the floor and mak[ing] abstract boy noise":


But Pavement was nothing at all like we pictured them. They were a bunch of foxy dudes, and they were into it. As soon as they hit the stage, you could hear all the girls in the crowd ovulate in unison. There were five or six of them up there, some banging on guitars, some just clapping their hands or singing along. They did not stare at the floor. They were there to make some noise and have some fun. They had fuzz and feedback and unironically beautiful sha-la-la melodies...

John Fredland (jfredland), Thursday, 8 February 2007 23:14 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm almost finished reading this. the chapter which detailed her death kept me awake, and was truly moving, even though i knew it was coming. i put on "one more hour" by sleater-kinney today and it was as if the whole song had changed. truly a great read.

jonathan - stl (jonathan - stl), Friday, 9 February 2007 00:04 (seventeen years ago) link

It's also hilarious in many spots, lest we forget. On a pop-radio mix tape: "Tom Cochrane has nothing to say and a stupid way of saying it, but he helps me get the dishes done."

without me, it was tie! (Rrrickey), Friday, 9 February 2007 00:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Great book, and there's a great review from Keith Harris in City Pages: http://citypages.com/databank/28/1365/article15113.asp

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Friday, 9 February 2007 00:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I've always loved his description of Depeche Mode's songs (from the Spin book) as sounding like something Leonard Cohen would write while waiting in line at Radio Shack.

without me, it was tie! (Rrrickey), Friday, 9 February 2007 00:13 (seventeen years ago) link

*things Leonard Cohen would write

without me, it was tie! (Rrrickey), Friday, 9 February 2007 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link

The first paragraph of his Roxy Music entry in the SPIN book is a prose poem; and his Duran Duran entry is the funniest thing he will ever write.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 9 February 2007 00:26 (seventeen years ago) link

As Depeche have covered Leonard Cohen, it's an apt take.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 February 2007 00:43 (seventeen years ago) link

no one's a bigger Keith Harris fan than me, but I don't think Sheffield's work in Rolling Stone has been good in years. The reviews--yeah, he does that well. But his wit or style or whatever never translates well to his column.

Which is why I was so surprised how good the book was. I read the excerpt first and it's pretty hard to deny the allure of reading a tragedy such as Rob's was. Or maybe it's just that I was so touched by his wife that the rest of the romance and observations seemed so good.

don weiner (don weiner), Friday, 9 February 2007 01:07 (seventeen years ago) link

er, touched by the story of what happens to his wife.

don weiner (don weiner), Friday, 9 February 2007 01:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought in some ways the saddest part in the book was Rob crying out about how unjust it was that Renée was never going to experience Missy Elliott or Hanson... that part really got to me for some reason (his entire Missy soliloquy is as perfect as music writing gets).

s w00ds (sw00ds), Friday, 9 February 2007 01:24 (seventeen years ago) link

damn okay you guys got me hooked

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 9 February 2007 01:29 (seventeen years ago) link

This is getting unamimously positive reviews here, so far.

Zachary S (Zach S), Friday, 9 February 2007 01:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm running to my local Borders tomorrow.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 9 February 2007 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link

A few quotes (and then I'll shut up so the rest of you can just go out and buy the damn thing already!):

"I realize it's frowned on to choose a mate based on someting superficial like the music they love. But superficiality has been good to me. In the animal kingdom, Renée and I would have recognized each other's scents; for us, it was a matter of having the same favorite Meat Puppets album. Music was a physical bond between us, and the fact that she still owned her childhood 45 of Andy Gibb's 'I Just Want To Be Your Everything' was tantamount to arranged marriage. The idea that we might not belong together never really crossed my mind."


[talking about their various crushes--after they're married]

"Thank God neither of us was the jealous type, or the insecure type, or for that matter the cheatin' type, since sharing our crushes was one of the major perks of being married. Renée would catalogue my crushes. There was Bassist Cleavage Girl (from the Luscious Jackson videos), Tremble-Mouth Girl (Winona Ryder), Mick Jagger Elastica Girl (Angelina Jolie in Hackers), Painted on a World War II Bomber Girl (Jennifer Connelly), My Eyes Are So Big You Could Fuck Them Girl (Susanna Hoffs), and Madonna (Madonna). She introduced me to her own seraglio, from the Braves' Javy Lopez ('He sure is put together nice') to Evan Dando ('He must get more cookie than the Keebler elves')."

[finally, re: the aforementioned Avril reference]

"When Avril Lavigne sings 'Sk8ter Boi,' a song about how lucky she is to wait backstage for her rock boy, how is anybody supposed to remember that the Avril Lavignes of yesteryear were sold pop fantasies in which they had a place onstage, too? ('Sk8ter Boi' is a great song, too--which is part of the reason why there's nothing simple about these questions.) Something was happening in nineties pop music that isn't happening anywhere in pop culture these days, with women making noise in public ways that seem distant now."

(that last bit...I dunno.)

s w00ds (sw00ds), Friday, 9 February 2007 01:54 (seventeen years ago) link

My sister-in-law is giving this for me.

Had a sense when reading him in Radio On, WMS, and various other fanzines that we were getting a Rob Sheffield that no one else was. I remember a great entry of his in Radio On taking us to task for underrating Biggie, explaining how many of Biggie's raps were about marriage.

Btw, I hope there's a Renée Crist collection someday. Once my friend John Wójtowicz said to me, "Whenever I read an especially smart review in Option I'll look down at the byline and it'll be Renée."

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:14 (seventeen years ago) link

My sister-in-law is giving this to me. (Hate typos.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:15 (seventeen years ago) link

(Yeah, plenty of noise girls before and since, from Grace Slick and Lydia Lunch and Roxanne Shanté to Eve and Lacey Mosley and Amy Lee, but I can see how the '90s might have felt like girls still discovering their noise, while the discovery's now gone, just as it's gone for boys. [Don't think I believe that, actually, but maybe it's what Rob's feeling. Hard for me to speculate about something I've not yet read. I wonder if Rob has ever looked at Brie Larson's MySpace?])

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I guess that could be closer to what he means (I say as someone who has read it). Maybe my ambivalence about all this has to do with the fact that women have completely dominated my new-music listening this decade, especially in the last 3-4 years (I mean, almost to an embarrassing degree; outside of hip-hop, I've loved very little music sung by men this decade). I haven't really felt like anything was lost, since the '90s, but I hadn't really thought too much about it either.

s w00ds (sw00ds), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Would you say listen to music more for vocals than instruments? (I'm the reverse.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Hard to say if one or the other exactly--I tend to latch onto beats just as much as I latch onto voices; and lyrics mean very little, at least at first--but I'm definitely less patient these days with guy vocals, especially in an overly familiar setting like guitar rock. Not as a rule or anything, and I'm not really sure why; I feel like men's voices don't seem very surprising, whereas women's more often do? (That probably sounds nuts.)

It'd be great if there was an anthology of Renée's writing--I haven't read a thing outside of the Radio On/WMS/Spin record guide stuff, but that alone would be enough for a great collection. For some reason, I've always had a hard time thinking of her as a writer for Option, which I've always, probably unfairly, assumed was a kind of stuffy mag.

s w00ds (sw00ds), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Jacqueline (my wife) often says that she has very little interest in movies where women characters don't have some prominence (preferably pretty women characters--her words, not mine), and I largely feel that way about pop music, to be honest.

s w00ds (sw00ds), Friday, 9 February 2007 04:00 (seventeen years ago) link

definitely true insofar as rock, pop, dance, r&b, and (what little I know of) country goes.

s w00ds (sw00ds), Friday, 9 February 2007 04:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I just re-read her essay on Everything But The Girl in the SPIN anthology. I was struck by her empathy for the female-female outreach in Tracy Thorn's best lyrics and receptivity to the grown-up dialogue between Thorn and Ben Watt on those Amplified Heart songs. Since I haven't read the book I can't speculate, but everything I've scanned so far tells me that Sheffield and Crist's relationship existed on a similar plane.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 9 February 2007 04:19 (seventeen years ago) link

For some reason, I've always had a hard time thinking of her as a writer for Option, which I've always, probably unfairly, assumed was a kind of stuffy mag.

It was and wasn't. (I think the features were stuffier than the reviews in the back, but I admit that I was a bit swamped issue for issue for a bunch of obscuro modern jazz stuff that I admit I had no interest in.)

But on the larger subject -- good thoughts there. Perhaps more appropriate for a separate thread? (Not saying it has to be!) The issue of surprise is a good way of thinking about it, actually.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 February 2007 04:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i always liked option's review section. so vast! but also smart and always lots of good info. i wish i still had my old copies.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 9 February 2007 04:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned, that'd be an interesting thread, but I wouldn't even know where to begin....it's such a vast question, and my own thoughts on it are entirely vague. But if someone starts one, I'll certainly take a look anyway.

s w00ds (sw00ds), Friday, 9 February 2007 04:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll try and come up with some way to phrase it tomorrow! My brain's too soft now. Scott S. -- I've got most of mine around somewhere still! Packed away, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 February 2007 05:03 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe there should be a dedicated thread for ppl to retype great old reviews and whatnot from magazines

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Friday, 9 February 2007 07:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Just reading the blurbs for this book have gotten me teary-eyed and shaky. Hopefully I can pick it up at Border's while traveling to Philadelphia tomorrow.

Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Friday, 9 February 2007 09:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I am shocked by the reponses so far in this thread - I kinda assumed it would be a Klosterman-style assassination. Now I'm intrigued and ordering it from Amazon.

Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Friday, 9 February 2007 10:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I felt like he spent too much time on the early stages of romantic rapture (was really grateful when he finally started describing their arguments) and the jump from mourning to "fine and dandy in NYC!" was way abrupt, but I'm sympathetic to both impulses and I really enjoyed the book. It's my favorite he's done since his entries in the Spin Alternative Record Guide.

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 9 February 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

favorite work he's done since, rather.

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 9 February 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Somebody should just reissue his new wave stuff from that book as an A-Z of the genre (maybe with a few more entries to cover the canon) and spare us all the Weisbard/Powers/Aaron/etc.

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 9 February 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

It would make a good US companion to Rip It Up And Start Again! Funnier, for sure.

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 9 February 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

This is a hell of a book.

adam (adam), Friday, 9 February 2007 23:40 (seventeen years ago) link

how many of Biggie's raps were about marriage.

Curious about this, based on what we now know about Biggie and marriage.

Still really really need to read this book!

marc h. (marc h.), Friday, 9 February 2007 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow. I also love his entries in that SPIN Alternative Guide. Looking forward to read this book.

zeus (zeus), Saturday, 10 February 2007 00:10 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Bump

Mark Rich@rdson, Thursday, 29 March 2007 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Miccio otm. The chapter on British synth-pop, his casual remarks on In Utero (an album composed by a man in the throes of romantic rapture instead of despair) – superb, unexpected, thrilling.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 29 March 2007 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

right. i just started a separate thread on this because search didn't turn anything up; really glad to see this is getting some love from ilm. scott otm in singling out the hanson/missy elliott bits; those were the highlight for me as well. i love him for the risks he took in that passage -- it takes a special kind of writer to do what he did with those hanson lyrics. i also thought the bits on nirvana, the grieving process and the boy/girl dynamic were especially strong. and the thing about the pasta sauce droplets on the cover of the jackie o record!

^@^, Thursday, 29 March 2007 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...

I did wonder if people had talked about this.

I read it on honeymoon. Perhaps not the most apt book (but in defence it was a present from my wife a few weeks earlier) and yeah yeah maybe I should've found other things to do with my time, but I thought it was lovely.

He's rubbish at making mixtapes, mind.

Matthew H, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Where did you go for your honeymoon?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

four months pass...

This is out in paperback. And still excellent.

three handclaps, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I've always had mixed feelings about Sheffield's stuff. The reviews in the Rolling Stone guide often seemed silly and sloppy and much less informative than any of the three previous editions. His love for Pavement and Yo La Tengo escapes me. I saw Pavement live and I caught a horrible off night and walked out and their records have a few bright spots but their batting average is Mendoza line for me.

That said, MixTape was a great read. Heart-wrenching in spots, very funny in others and one of the few music books I have recommended to people who don't read music books, since it seems as both an essay on music geekdom and as something outside of it. I figure it somehow explains the obsession without torturing its onlookers....

smurfherder, Thursday, 20 December 2007 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

so, he has a new one out, Talking to Girls About Duran Duran

http://us.penguingroup.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9780525951568,00.html?Talking_to_Girls_About_Duran_Duran_Rob_Sheffield

markers, Thursday, 29 July 2010 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Entertainment
Chords of Strength
David Archuleta
Watch a video for David Archuleta's Chords of Strength.

Andy K, Thursday, 29 July 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link

five years pass...

Not sure how soon this is out:

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t427/sayhey1/bowie_zpssrcbnsym.jpg

I'll read it for sure, although I'm only a casual fan.

clemenza, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:56 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

This comes out late April:

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t427/sayhey1/rob_zpslzflbfp0.jpg

No idea what angle the book will come at them from, but I'm confident it will be unique, and guessing it ends in a bar in Portugal with everyone drunk and singing "It's All Too Much."

clemenza, Saturday, 25 February 2017 22:28 (seven years ago) link

I love Sheffield and I'm sure this book will be great, but ffs there's enough books about the beatles out there

josh az (2011nostalgia), Saturday, 25 February 2017 22:36 (seven years ago) link

There are, there are...A friend gave me one for Christmas (Magic Circles), and because it was a gift, I'll read that one too. And that'll be it forever. (Honestly, I don't think I even have read a full-length book on the Beatles--almost positive. So that won't be a problem for me.)

clemenza, Saturday, 25 February 2017 22:46 (seven years ago) link

The Lewisohn one is so good, it's one of my favorite books, Beatles or no.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 25 February 2017 22:53 (seven years ago) link

I have it, I just know I don't have the stamina for 1,000 pages of pre-history.

clemenza, Saturday, 25 February 2017 23:16 (seven years ago) link

Think of it as a book not just about the Beatles but about that whole period of time. It's also fascinating to learn how many close calls almost kept the Beatles from ever happening, or all sorts of lucky breaks or coincidences that had they not occurred would have derailed the whole thing. Just page after page - as in, almost on every page. Really quite remarkable, keeping in mind the world-changing impact the band had. I actually think about the book a lot for that reason. Things like, had A not happened then B wouldn't have happened then C wouldn't have happened then the Beatles wouldn't have happened if A was, like, Paul going out to pick up some milk or something.

Also neat to read about how fully formed they were as personalities, and to read accounts of young John, say, that are perfectly in line with accounts of iconic John.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 25 February 2017 23:21 (seven years ago) link

That's a great description that makes me want to dig in and give it a try. Went to a screening of A Hard Day's Night a couple of years ago that Lewisohn introduced.

clemenza, Sunday, 26 February 2017 00:19 (seven years ago) link

The story in Lewisohn of how they got the Parlophone contract wasn't how I remember it ever being told before and one of those happenstance events - the role of Sid Colman and Kim Bennett and how they happened to hear the "Hello Little Girl" acetate when Epstein was getting it pressed.

timellison, Sunday, 26 February 2017 00:22 (seven years ago) link

"But while Brian remained determined to make something happen to get the Beatles a recording contract, those particular labors were receding in his mind - they were February events and it was now the end of April, beginning of May.

And yet, for this whole fantastical and fortuitous combination of reasons - which Brian probably never knew and the Beatles certainly never knew - the door of Parlophone Records, previously closed to them once and maybe even twice, was sliding open."

timellison, Sunday, 26 February 2017 00:33 (seven years ago) link

My favorite happenstance is when, a year after failing to successfully land the Hamburg gig, they bump into what's his name in London, on one of their rare sojourns south playing for nobody, when he was suddenly desperate for anyone to play his German clubs.

Also loved the little things, like how they are collectively known as John, Paul, George, Ringo ... because that is the order in which they joined the band, each one inviting the next into the fold.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 26 February 2017 04:35 (seven years ago) link

Magic Circles is excellent

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 26 February 2017 07:09 (seven years ago) link

After Lewisohn I never thought I'd need to read another Beatles book either but this year I got gifted Steve Turner's - Beatles '66 and enjoyed it greatly.

MaresNest, Sunday, 26 February 2017 17:05 (seven years ago) link

three years pass...

Looking forward to this:

http://robertchristgau.substack.com/p/auriculum-episode-1-robert-christgau

Not sure if it requires a subscription or not.

clemenza, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 16:33 (four years ago) link

I think part 1 is free, but the subsequent parts will require subscription to Christgau’s paid subscribers list

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 19:42 (four years ago) link

I'm not even as much of a Christgau hater as most, but I have a hard time imagining paying to hear what 2020 Christgau thinks about anything.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

This made me smile:

https://i.postimg.cc/pLTtG2Sj/rob.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 26 November 2024 18:18 (two weeks ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.