Crystal Castles

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Michael Bourke (Michael B), Sunday, 4 February 2007 18:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah

Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Sunday, 4 February 2007 18:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

wow these songs are kinda fuckin great

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Sunday, 4 February 2007 19:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

You should follow the link to their website

Soft Cell #44 (Roger Fidelity), Sunday, 4 February 2007 20:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

Then your total gayness can be complete

Soft Cell #44 (Roger Fidelity), Sunday, 4 February 2007 20:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

I already knew they did

etuetu (xave), Sunday, 4 February 2007 20:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

The Myspace band recommendation usually sucks, but yeah, they're pretty neat.

Zachary S (Zach S), Sunday, 4 February 2007 20:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

Those aren't even their best tracks up there...

Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Sunday, 4 February 2007 21:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

I went ahead and preordered the Magic Spells 12", even though it didn't say when it was actually coming out.

Zachary S (Zach S), Sunday, 4 February 2007 23:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

Old news, folks

brokenfuses (brokenfuses), Monday, 5 February 2007 00:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, gawd, remember when they were on the cover of Bop for 3 years straight and MTV would mention them on their news updates everyday? I'm glad they're not so oversaturated like they used to be. What kind of person would fail to have heard of Crystal Castles by now? Fuck.

Zachary S (Zach S), Monday, 5 February 2007 00:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.myspace.com/ccrystalccastles

cutty (mcutt), Monday, 5 February 2007 00:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

do they endorse the microkorg

am0n (am0n), Monday, 5 February 2007 00:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

ha, the deer picture from their 2nd myspace page is from my apartment

cutty (mcutt), Monday, 5 February 2007 01:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

Old news, folks

people who give a shit about whether something is old news are so 1997

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Monday, 5 February 2007 02:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

I told them bitches who Ada is.

mox twelve (Mox twleve), Monday, 5 February 2007 05:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'd rather have the new Chromatics stuff.

Steev (Steev), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 23:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

but you can have both and be happy

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 23:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

I just remembered that I preordered this. Still not out, I guess. The Liars remix posted on Pitchfork today is pretty excellent.

Z S, Friday, 15 June 2007 00:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

they were total dicks to everybody when they came through town but I loved their show anyway

still, their manners were fucking appalling

J0hn D., Friday, 15 June 2007 01:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

there are probably some people who still think that means they might be Proper Pop Stars I guess though

J0hn D., Friday, 15 June 2007 01:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

Fuck is this?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 4 February 2008 20:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

Dunno. Heard a couple tracks a year or so ago. Longer, I think. Fall of '06? Lo-fi 8-bit party noise w/ screaming? Just listened to a bunch of more recent stuff. Very, very bad.

contenderizer, Monday, 4 February 2008 20:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

love these guys. makes me want to get the old NES up and working and attempt to beat megaman 2

6335, Monday, 4 February 2008 21:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

They're an acquired taste (especially the screaming), but their remix of Klaxons - "Atlantis to Interzone" is great.

Spencer Chow, Monday, 4 February 2008 22:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

'Knights' is good, well the 'chorus' is phenomenal altho the whiny synth noise elsewhere does grate.

blueski, Monday, 4 February 2008 22:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

'air war', people

Michael B, Monday, 4 February 2008 23:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

there's a comp of their remixes going around that's good

remixes by them(him?) weirdly tend to be better than their original material. i guess it fits with their approach that they would put more effort into taking bloc party's money than putting out their own shit, though.

rmx of goodbooks' "leni" is A+

j. brooks, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 19:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

this has crazy grown on me

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 13 March 2008 01:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

God, there are few bands I hate more than them, but this is probably a condition of living in the same city as them.

mehlt, Thursday, 13 March 2008 01:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

I went ahead and preordered the Magic Spells 12", even though it didn't say when it was actually coming out.

I should probably check and see if I ever got charged for this. I Paypal'd it.

Z S, Thursday, 13 March 2008 02:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

Basically the new rave Test Icicles, right?

Matt DC, Thursday, 13 March 2008 09:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

More like the "Donkey Kong" Test Icicles. I was over all this 8-bit punk/chip music in about 30 seconds.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 13 March 2008 09:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

:/

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 13 March 2008 17:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

Ow they make my ears go hurty.

chap, Thursday, 13 March 2008 17:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

i'm being asked to give up my radio show this week so that they can broadcast their concert.

REJECTED

elan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 18:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

i love my lame city friends big upping this band

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 18:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

lame-city

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 18:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

i like that health track they did.

tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 18:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

r u a bolg?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

wham city

am0n, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

fuck that... TEN CITY

elan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

parts of this sound like the lost moby/alec empire tape. (which most people would mean as an insult but i don't.) "courtship dating" is pretty good.

tipsy mothra, Saturday, 22 March 2008 06:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

Saw them live a few weeks ago and they weren't convincing, but I like the album.

zeus, Saturday, 29 March 2008 20:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

Okay I fold, the album is really great. I'm trying to work out why something this cheap and shoddy and trashy is this affecting, and I can only put it down to that sense of sadness running through everything. It's like dying in Zelda over and over again.

Matt DC, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

Laughed at the Zelda thing, but you're right - a lot of it is really sad sounding. Haunting and sad.

Savannah Smiles, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm actually a little disappointing because I was all fired up to give this a real kicking. Even the ones with the screaming work, I can totally see why they used Alice Practice in that grieving scene in Skins now.

Matt DC, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

DisappointED, even. Although I am a little disappointing as well.

Matt DC, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

wau

still ike the album, tho

HI DERE, Friday, 9 May 2008 16:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

even if they plagiarized posters or whatever

Treeship, Thursday, 19 November 2015 01:46 (two years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

new album, guess no one cares anymore

it me, Friday, 19 August 2016 20:57 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Quite a journey from first to last post huh

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2017 14:56 (two months ago) Permalink

Most recent album was pretty good. Alice Glass ep was even better.

fffv, Friday, 6 October 2017 15:54 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Alice Glass has just posted more fully about Ethan Kath and why she left the band. Trigger warnings noted, this is not an easy read.

http://www.alice-glass.com/cc/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 17:45 (one month ago) Permalink

holy fuck that is horrible

Simon H., Tuesday, 24 October 2017 17:56 (one month ago) Permalink

this is really awful. I love the first two crystal castles albums but they won’t sound the same to me anymore. i was always a fan of her vocals. she seemed so powerful — sometimes frightening — i never would have imagined that this was the actual dynamic in that band.

Treeship, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 17:57 (one month ago) Permalink

Wow, what a tough read. Kudos to her for finally getting out from his manipulative, abusive grip and calling him out on it.

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 18:51 (one month ago) Permalink

this is really awful. I love the first two crystal castles albums but they won’t sound the same to me anymore. i was always a fan of her vocals. she seemed so powerful — sometimes frightening — i never would have imagined that this was the actual dynamic in that band.

― Treeship, Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:57 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, this. Although we may have to have the good old bad-people-often-make-good-art-but-actually-let's-not-financially-support-this-fuck conversation.

Also, this story is out of the blue to me (and to this thread) but apparently it's not the first time she's spoken out - from the Crystal Castles Wikipedia page;

In early 2016, the band was included in the announced lineup for the 79 Cents event at SXSW, a concert showcase organized by Tumblr to highlight women's income disparity. Shortly after, this choice was criticized by former member Alice Glass:

As someone who knew Ethan Kath on a personal and professional level, it is my opinion that he is not an appropriate artist to be performing at a feminism-centric event.
— Alice Glass, in interview with The Verge

In reaction to this statement, the band was removed from the lineup.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 12:29 (one month ago) Permalink

didn't these guys use a woman with a black eye as an album cover once

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:42 (one month ago) Permalink

can we change thread title to Crystal Castles (suck)

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:43 (one month ago) Permalink

Idk “Black Panther” and the album version of “Not in Love” are amazing tracks

Treeship, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:54 (one month ago) Permalink

xp It was Madonna with a black eye, and they were sued by the artist for using it without his permission.

http://i51.tinypic.com/wmmqtf.jpg

It was pretty bad then, much worse with this context now.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:55 (one month ago) Permalink

I never really thought about the dude. My emotional investment in the band was based on loving the albums and being a fan of her as a vocalist, performer, and personality. So it’s an odd situation in terms of what to think of this material now.

Treeship, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:56 (one month ago) Permalink

Jesus I forgot about that.

Treeship, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:59 (one month ago) Permalink

Xp

Treeship, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:59 (one month ago) Permalink

I would also request that mods remove "rule" from the thread title

Simon H., Wednesday, 25 October 2017 20:21 (one month ago) Permalink

I never listened to this band but is their music really no longer good

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 20:28 (one month ago) Permalink

don't need it replaced with "sucks" or whatever it's just....a little uncomfortable to leave it as is

Simon H., Wednesday, 25 October 2017 20:31 (one month ago) Permalink

Crystal Castles (problematic)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 20:33 (one month ago) Permalink

Maybe start a new thread? I know that ilx unlike other boards does encourage the use of older threads, but rather than retconning the opinions of a decade ago we could just move the discussion to somewhere with a more appropriate title.

emil.y, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 20:42 (one month ago) Permalink

looks like somebody fixed it

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 23:55 (one month ago) Permalink

Didn't we already knew Ethan Kath was a huge douchebag? He wrote this when Alice released her first solo single:

https://i.imgur.com/0VNlN10.png

yeah you totally don't care dude

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 October 2017 04:10 (one month ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/0VNlN10.png

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 October 2017 04:11 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah I remember that happening, and people generally thinking he was a fucking dickbag because of it. I certainly never gave them any time again after she left

akm, Thursday, 26 October 2017 04:13 (one month ago) Permalink

Also someone should tell him CC best known song is Crimewave.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 October 2017 04:13 (one month ago) Permalink

You know in the context of Alice's statement that facebook post from Ethan is proof that he is an insecure piece of shit and he did enjoy undermining her.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 October 2017 04:16 (one month ago) Permalink

Seems all of CC upcoming concerts have been cancelled. Hope this is a career killer for him.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 October 2017 04:18 (one month ago) Permalink

I can't defend Alice either though, two friends worked with her in some venues and she's also very rude and shitty to everyone.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 October 2017 04:23 (one month ago) Permalink

Seems like that's two rather different things being compared.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 October 2017 04:26 (one month ago) Permalink

also sounds like she may have some reasons for being emotionally uncomfortable in work situations with strangers

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Thursday, 26 October 2017 05:01 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah of course they’re different things you’re right. Ethan apologists on the CC fb page right now are making me sick.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 October 2017 06:12 (one month ago) Permalink

So much of that fourth Crystal Castles album was trolling Alice. He diminished her in statements, literally wrote her out of the band's history in its official press material, and seemed to be mocking her (and really all women) with that cover. It all seemed distasteful at the time, but in light of all the new information it's fucking abhorrent—an entire album of an abuser taunting his victim. Maybe the most morally unconscionable record since Chris Brown's Graffiti.

Evan R, Thursday, 26 October 2017 14:33 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah I feel like Alice's past rep as "difficult" has to be understood in this context. First of all she was just a kid when she started, and who knows what kind of encouragement he gave her to act out, how much she was following his lead, etc. No consolation to people who had to deal with snotty-young-punk behavior, but she was clearly coming from a weird place throughout the CC experience.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 26 October 2017 14:44 (one month ago) Permalink

I was surprised that until this week there hadn't been much observable backlash from their fanbase (and some people who liked them enough to buy tickets to a show didn't even know that Alice wasn't in the group anymore).

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 26 October 2017 15:06 (one month ago) Permalink

jfc some of the comments on that thread

Simon H., Thursday, 26 October 2017 15:21 (one month ago) Permalink

"seemed to be mocking her (and really all women) with that cover" the girls on swings? really?

akm, Thursday, 26 October 2017 16:06 (one month ago) Permalink

Four nearly identical girls, on an album that swaps out one woman for another like it's no big deal. Seemed meant as commentary on how replaceable/interchangeable women are to me. How did you read it?

Evan R, Thursday, 26 October 2017 16:20 (one month ago) Permalink

i never got into this band but i almost did cos i liked the name alot (and she was v compelling as a performer) . i remember Hipster Runoff talked about them a lot and did some ironic/unironic objectifying of the lead singer. the whole thing is disgusting. really glad that she is out of that situation. holy crap.

fuck that fb post btw

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 October 2017 16:23 (one month ago) Permalink

i read it as some goth kids on a swing, but I didn't think about it very much either.

akm, Thursday, 26 October 2017 16:37 (one month ago) Permalink

(I've never listened to this band btw, but at one point was booked to open for them on this tour so ended up reading way more about them than I ever wanted to)

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 26 October 2017 17:19 (one month ago) Permalink

#humblebrag

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 26 October 2017 17:23 (one month ago) Permalink

Swapping out Alice Glass for basically a doppelgänger when she quit was eerie

Treeship, Thursday, 26 October 2017 17:23 (one month ago) Permalink

I feel very disturbed by all of this given how much I listened to those first two albums in college

Treeship, Thursday, 26 October 2017 17:24 (one month ago) Permalink

i thought the last album cover was just a nod to the horror film meme re scary dead eyed kids.

mark e, Thursday, 26 October 2017 18:30 (one month ago) Permalink

I see someone's throwing a cow.

https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/11/crystal-castles-ethan-kath-sues-alice-glass-for-defamation/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 November 2017 22:12 (one month ago) Permalink

Suing her for just 300k? This will not end well for him.

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 3 November 2017 22:16 (one month ago) Permalink

The actual facebook post with his comment is worse:

https://www.facebook.com/ccrystalccastles/photos/a.10151199490370335.807013.21720030334/10159505110390335/

Passive aggressive asshole makes me think Alice is the one telling the truth and it will backfire to him. He's publicly drawing her as a drug addict with mental issues to try to discredit her account and then goes on to suggest that the only reason she is coming forth is that CC has "new success" without her - despite the fact that almost nobody really cares about either of them anymore, music-wise.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 November 2017 03:36 (one month ago) Permalink

Also what the fuck at him saying he fully supported her when she left? Talking shit left and right to the media about her the minute she left, publicly shaming her doesn't seem very supportive tbh

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 November 2017 03:38 (one month ago) Permalink


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