Peter Green's The End Of The Game - just regular old classic or best album ever?

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In protest of AMG's deplorable and ludicrous 1-star review, let's sing the praises of this teeth-gnashingly, ball-grabbingly fantastic record!

Sister Vicodin (Roger Fidelity), Saturday, 3 February 2007 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i like it.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 February 2007 02:11 (thirteen years ago) link

oh, sorry. i like it!

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 February 2007 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link

It is ablaze with genius, totally undervalued.

Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 3 February 2007 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link

i always thought people liked it. or people who knew who peter green was anyway. which is, you know, a bunch of people. i've never heard anyone say anything bad about it. i haven't read the amg review.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 February 2007 04:03 (thirteen years ago) link

From AMG:

The directionless jamming on The End of the Game, the first solo release by Peter Green, is just what you'd expect from someone as psychologically messed up as he was when he cut it. He still plays wicked guitar, and sounds much like Jimi Hendrix in spots, but without Hendrix's vision. In fact, there's no coherent vision at all on this record. None of the musicians could have enjoyed themselves in spite of the opportunity to play with Green. It's drivel, from an immensely talented guitarist. Sad.


Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 3 February 2007 04:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Sounds like absolute bullshit from AMG. Their review doesn't even make sense. Anyways link to the song?

wesley useche (electronicmaji), Saturday, 3 February 2007 04:35 (thirteen years ago) link

right up there with all of Miles' jams from 70 to 75.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Saturday, 3 February 2007 07:05 (thirteen years ago) link

ya think? whoa. I like The End of the Game but I think it sounds best after you've thoroughly digested Green's best: Fleetwood Mac's Then Play On and John Mayall's A Hard Road.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 3 February 2007 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link

The funny thing about the AMG review is that 5 of the 6 tracks are given positive individual reviews.

It's Tough to Beat Illious (noodle vague), Saturday, 3 February 2007 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link

x-post

yeah. i love this record. maybe it's not quite as perfect as, say, live evil. but it does share that moody psych-fusion vibe that miles was working out. the bass and drums on this record really groove. when it comes to peter green, i dig his original stuff. i'm not so into the blues. another jam is the whole series of Mac live at the boston tea party.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Saturday, 3 February 2007 13:18 (thirteen years ago) link

four years pass...

this record killlllls.
i think more great guitarists of the classic rock age should've just ditched the whole "songwriting" thing and jammed out a bunch of records like this. like the whole thing sounds like the band dropped acid, listened to bitches brew, plugged in and told the engineer to roll tape.

tylerw, Saturday, 23 July 2011 19:42 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

just going to revive this thread annually to say "best album ever"

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:58 (seven years ago) link

It's been a while since I listened to it, time to dig it out. I was just listening to a Fleetwood Mac "Greatest Hits" from the early era that has a bunch of singles on it. "Albatross" is so gorgeous.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 16:04 (seven years ago) link

that is a raaad cover

just sayin, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 18:49 (seven years ago) link

seven years pass...

Bottoms up pppp!!!!

yuoowemeone, Friday, 28 February 2020 12:22 (five months ago) link

this is getting a reissue I believe I just read. It's a great album.

akm, Friday, 28 February 2020 19:51 (five months ago) link

four months pass...

RIP one of the great British guitar players

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 July 2020 22:38 (two weeks ago) link

The best, imo. From tone to playing, he sounded naturally and uniquely gifted. No cheese.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 25 July 2020 22:41 (two weeks ago) link

Have never heard this album, must rectify that. I'm not generally one for superstar guitarists but he was a special one.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 July 2020 22:47 (two weeks ago) link

he had a great sensitivity in his playing

there is a great melancholy that hangs over everything he did, one of those artists that's hard to explain

why is he different than Clapton? I guess I couldn't tell you, other than this *otherness* that Green had, where Clapton is inert

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 July 2020 22:54 (two weeks ago) link

Seemed like a sensitive soul. Eric Clapton does not seem like a sensitive soul.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 July 2020 22:56 (two weeks ago) link

just read that allmusic review mentioned in the op, sheesh.

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Sunday, 26 July 2020 03:47 (two weeks ago) link

RIP peter green.

you can hear he already had a vision early on, during his work with john mayall:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKn-0zEcRYI

and just listen to his contributions to this gass tune, which without him would be just a pretty good marriott-esque workout. he really had a unique sensitivity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvvqlTbgoMg

"the end of the game" is underrated and unfairly dismissed as just some throwaway blues jam, fuck that review for sure + tylerw otm upthread. there are also worthwhile moments on pretty much every peter green solo record from the brief period he was active in the late '70s and early '80s, from JJ cale-esque boogie jams to more contemplative instrumental stuff. like for what it is, this is pretty good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFcE2v6-8S4

it wasn't until just today that i read he was around for the "tusk" sessions; you can hear him towards the end of "brown eyes" just as the song is starting to fade.

budo jeru, Sunday, 26 July 2020 05:45 (two weeks ago) link

IIRC, his Tusk involvement was part of a failed plan by Mick Fleetwood to Green a deal with Warner's or something.

I saw too that he's on "Night Watch" from Penguin, and he also filled in on part of a '71 Mac tour after Jeremy Spencer left.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 26 July 2020 06:07 (two weeks ago) link

Good singer too.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 July 2020 09:18 (two weeks ago) link

I saw too that he's on "Night Watch" from Penguin, and he also filled in on part of a '71 Mac tour after Jeremy Spencer left.

― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain)

yeah, i have a tape from that era; it's interesting to hear him dueting with kirwan on "the purple dancer", which was written and released after green's departure (and is the b-side of my favorite fleetwood mac release ever)

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 26 July 2020 09:19 (two weeks ago) link

well, since this is 2020, here's a link to that performance!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etBRc_RUZx4

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 26 July 2020 09:40 (two weeks ago) link

(note that the video's saying that green is playing "faintly in the background" is an artifact of the soundboard mix; my recording is a stereo audience tape and green is fully present and accounted for.)

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 26 July 2020 09:43 (two weeks ago) link

Bottoms up pppp!!!!

― yuoowemeone, Friday, February 28, 2020 7:22 AM (four months ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Sunday, 26 July 2020 12:51 (two weeks ago) link

Good singer too.


^^^

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 27 July 2020 05:20 (one week ago) link

So sad, probably his most famous song but most people associate it with someone else:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRu7Pt42x6Y

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:24 (one week ago) link

this rules — just wish it kept going!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPFEi2bIoy0

tylerw, Monday, 27 July 2020 15:31 (one week ago) link

wow, what a great clip

budo jeru, Monday, 27 July 2020 15:39 (one week ago) link

He was definitely moving in an interesting direction in the early 70s.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:47 (one week ago) link

xpost I think his most famous song is probably Black Magic Woman but that's also associated with someone else

that's what i wrote...

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:22 (one week ago) link

Not true in the UK, "Albatross" is far more well known.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:34 (one week ago) link


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