Where is the LOVE for Perfume?

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Irrespective of what you think about J-pop and Japanese popular culture in general Perfume are one bad-ass group and for some reason don't get anywhere close to the kind of appreciation that Morning Musume or Utada get outside Japan. "Electro World" is hands down one of the best pop songs I have heard all year and last year too.

owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Saturday, 7 October 2006 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

PS http://youtube.com/watch?v=qTC_oiPL-Ig

owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

More like "Where is the LOVE for Yasutaka Nakata?" I've been repping for Capsule's last album for months and seeing as he's Perfume's sugar daddy, it's only fair that his band gets it first.

ie. Most of the songs on FRUITS CLiPPER > 'Electro World'.

Badrock Example (Barima), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:46 (fifteen years ago) link

They are very cute.

chap who would dare to contain two ingredients. Tea and bags. (chap), Saturday, 7 October 2006 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh bullshit! Capsule writes the same (good) song over and over again! They just have more indie cachet because they dress mod and rock analog synths. Fruits Clipper wasn't bad but neither did it give me chills which Electro World TOTALLY DID.

owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Saturday, 7 October 2006 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link

HAHAHAHAHAHA @ "chills" (and the idea that 'Electro World' is more freakier than, say, 'CrazEEEE Skyhopper').

'EW' is effectively 'Dreamin Dreamin' off FC with a drop-off in pop song skills and an upping of tempo and electro bass. Therefore, this is likely one of the few occasions I can agree with you on Nakata writing the same song twice (see also Capsule's 'Glider' > Perfume's 'Computer World'). Not something that bothers me in principle, since all the best alternative Japanese producers deliberately refer to their own sounds in later work, mind.

They just have more indie cachet because they dress mod and rock analog synths.

Which has what to do with anything?

Badrock Example (Barima), Sunday, 8 October 2006 10:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I think this can be chalked up to nothing more complex than a difference in taste. I am more into the wide-eye tooth-decay rainbow type of j-pop than the, shall we say, more traditionally "cool" stuff. And I love Capsule and Perfume both.

owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Monday, 9 October 2006 06:39 (fifteen years ago) link

PS What I meant was that Capsule hews closer to the auteur model of pop music if that makes any sense, and have a focused aesthetic which Perfume, beyond "we three like each other quite a bit and enjoy singing together too," is sort of lacking. Capsule is much "cooler" than Perfume which is pretty much what inspired this thread in the first place. I hear about Capsule all the time with nary a mention of Perfume, and I don't know if I've ever read anything about Perfume that didn't mention Nakata. So... where is the love?

owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Monday, 9 October 2006 06:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, Perfume are hardly Britney - they may have their own Max Martin, but no schoolgirl outfits or virginal mystique or anything beyond being the front. Therefore, the writer-producer gets the props. And the girls get comments like Joe's upthread.

PS. Capsule don't have an ILM thread.

PPS. It has nothing to do with Capsule being cooler (or "less pop") and everything to do with Nakata diluting his best ideas and giving them to Perfume.

PPPS. I'd do Perfume.

Badrock Example (Barima), Monday, 9 October 2006 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't even think it has to do with Capsule being less pop--just a different sort of pop. In fact last night I realized I probably like Capsule more than I like Perfume, but I still think that Perfume is underrated even among people who know and like that kind of stuff, of whom there don't seem to be many outside Japan (and, I guess, inside Japan too).

PS Srsly? I was going to make a Capsule thread and then I thought that there was one already and then I was listening to Perfume and I wanted to make a Perfume thread.


owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Monday, 9 October 2006 12:44 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...


I'm getting the 2009 album "Triangle" right now, but until then, enjoy this, my favorite song.

I wish 1:50 to 2:01 could loop forever. That'd get my sailors jumping!

Captain Ahab, Sunday, 21 February 2010 20:55 (twelve years ago) link



Captain Ahab, Sunday, 21 February 2010 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

screw the j-pop thread, i'm posting this here


emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 21:40 (nine years ago) link

i mean this is a year-old b-side but it's still massive and i'm glad they made a video for it

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 21:40 (nine years ago) link

I'm all about Point at the moment, potentially my pop song of the year.

direct references of (seandalai), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:00 (nine years ago) link

I never saw this 2006 thread! ILX on top of it

sandbox detour for reference - http://sandbox.ilxor.com/sandbox/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=142&threadid=1671

The 'Fake It' clip in support of their new compilation for international markets - http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=TKCA-73840 - which I was looking forward to being a true best-of but in turns out to be a rather odd cross-section from their albums / singles, so it's missing quite a few of the songs I was hoping to be able to have on a CD like 'One Room Disco', but it's got 'Polyrhythm'

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:49 (nine years ago) link

More like "Where is the LOVE for Yasutaka Nakata?" is OTM. I've only recently started getting into Perfume and Meg, but I love Capsule and just about everything else the dude has had anything to do with. Copter4016882's 2D2D (which he had some level of involvement with and may have produced...?) is underrated even beyond the extent to which most of his stuff is underrated 'round here.


This Whole Fridge Is Full Of (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 23:03 (nine years ago) link

seven months pass...

what are they up to now?

pea hen (clouds), Saturday, 13 April 2013 15:48 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

great extended version of Spending All My Time from the Cannes Lions International Festival of Creativity


( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 22 June 2013 22:32 (eight years ago) link

That performance is fucking fantastic. If they ever play New York I will be there in a heartbeat.

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 23 June 2013 01:51 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Let's gear up for their next album, out October 2nd.
01. Enter the Sphere
02. Spring of Life (Album-mix)
03. Magic of Love (Album-mix)
04. Clockwork
05. 1mm
06. 未来のミュージアム
07. Party Maker
08. ふりかえるといるよ
09. ポイント
10. だいじょばない
11. Handy Man
12. Sleeping Beauty
13. Spending all my time (Album-mix)
14. Dream Land

A great new track was revealed, 1mm:


abcfsk, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 08:05 (eight years ago) link

'spring of life' is one of the 10 best song-video combinations in human history

obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 08:38 (eight years ago) link

I prefer the 'Spending' routine / video.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 08:41 (eight years ago) link

yep digging '1mm'. hope 'Spending all my time (Album-mix)' is the extended version from the recent live shows

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 10:29 (eight years ago) link

And when I said I prefer 'Spending' I meant the original, not the new one, which I forgot and is a whole new level of awesomeness in itself. The original had its own superhuman charm in the perfectness of the sync hand movements.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 11:04 (eight years ago) link

i hope it's more "spring of life" than "spending all my time".

clouds, Monday, 2 September 2013 16:48 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, "Spending All My Time" is one of the greatest singles of the 2000s, and the video is amazing/hypnotic/creepy/brilliant. New song above is great, too—this is one of my most anticipated albums of 2013.

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 2 September 2013 17:11 (eight years ago) link

"1mm" is good.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 2 September 2013 17:43 (eight years ago) link

"1mm" is good.
--EZ Snappin

yeah, it is. I'm excited.

still think "spending all my time" was a weak attempt to try to break into non-JPN territories. kinda edm eurotrash garbage imo. gimmie the bouncy, blue-skied instead perfume instead plz.

original bgm, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 02:17 (eight years ago) link

Yep, seemed slight to me. Magic Of Love was a massive return to form.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 07:11 (eight years ago) link

Spending All My Time is my fave single of this period. Not remotely un-Perfume-y but still something kinda new and fun for them to try, adding some sounds they usually don't have in their arsenal without ever fully stepping into another genre. Spring of Life and Magic are both the definition of safe to me and not as good as their b-sides but being Perfume that still makes them very listenable indeed.

One of the new album tracks is over 7 minutes so it's all looking good, with the promise of a flashy video for 1mm as well.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 07:16 (eight years ago) link

Oh and one thing that's made the safer recent Perfume singles interesting as well is Nakata experimenting with close to no vocal effects at times.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 07:18 (eight years ago) link

"Magic of Love" is OK but yeah, a pretty safe bet; it kinda sounds like a rewrite of "Natural ni Koishite." I think "Mirai no Museum" is the weakest single they've released from the upcoming album.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 13:50 (eight years ago) link

yeah, I haven't been blown away by anything released since JPN really. largely competent and fun and listenable but pales a bit compared to the more adventurous stuff nakata's been doing with kyary.

still, i can't imagine i won't listen to this new one like crazy!

original bgm, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 14:55 (eight years ago) link

oh wait, I forgot about "hurly burly" - that one rules

original bgm, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 14:59 (eight years ago) link

Quite a few fans are pissed that Hurly Burly isn't on the tracklist.

I thought Kyary's latest album was pretty great and she has a few masterpieces under her belt. In general I think Nakata's work with Perfume's got an emotional core and melodical genius to it that gives it weight compared to Kyary's fun time tunage, even when playing it safe.

Everything is relative, I would give all Perfume albums 10/10 and no song less than 8/10*.. then you get a couple of 8 singles in a row and it can come off as doomsday. But all the vibes I'm getting from this album is that it might work very well as an album indeed, and actually be a bit on the experimental side outside of the singles. Putting album mixes of singles there is a great choice. (The members talked in a recent interview about a few 'light' Perfume singles having been released in a row, and they have actually been their lowest selling singles in a few years)

* well, maybe.. http://youtu.be/ZMy_2UaQb-c

abcfsk, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:17 (eight years ago) link

This on the other hand is definitely a solid 8


abcfsk, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:21 (eight years ago) link

those early tracks are hilarious.

In general I think Nakata's work with Perfume's got an emotional core and melodical genius to it that gives it weight compared to Kyary's fun time tunage, even when playing it safe.

yeah, I can see that. as much as I like kyary, she doesn't have a song with the emotional whallop of "electro world" or "polyrhythm" or "chocolate disco" or "dream fighter" or etc. etc. (not yet anyway)

and yeah, omitting "hurly burly" is a weird move for sure.

also, I don't really hate "mirai no museum" like everyone else seems to. it's... pretty likable, I think? def on the generic side but kinda gives off pleasant serani poji vibes that I can't really hate on.

original bgm, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:10 (eight years ago) link

and how does his work with Capsule compare? I feel like it kind of gets the short stick re: the recent albums (though honestly outside of Fruits Clipper I dunno if I've heard a Capsule album that's been good all the way through)

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:16 (eight years ago) link

yeah, the capsule stuff is all really spotty but worth digging through for the gems in my experience. but I haven't heard it all.

sugarless girl is the best of what I've heard. love the title track and "starry sky". things get progressively more EDM-ey from that album on.

original bgm, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:22 (eight years ago) link

mirai no museum was done for a children's movie ne?

i listened to abt half of "stereo worxxxx" or whatever before turning it off due to shitty rapping

clouds, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:24 (eight years ago) link

I only made it through Stereo Worxxx once, but I love the album before that, World of Fantasy. When I just want huge head-crushing sound, I put on the title track at ridiculous volume (this does not make my co-workers happy).

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:27 (eight years ago) link

will get that one then — i love nakata in sensory-overload mode :)

clouds, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:31 (eight years ago) link

I've found that my favorite Capsule album is probably L.D.K. which is the one that precedes Fruits Clipper, and is a more of a transitional album between their earlier stuff and the more EDM/Electro House influenced material.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:32 (eight years ago) link

Never liked that one much, though I do appreciate the Hosono ref in the title :)

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:34 (eight years ago) link

the World of Fantasy video is a thing of wonder http://youtu.be/W4h8m74pyC8
there's a new Capsule album out the end of next month btw

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:11 (eight years ago) link

That video is what sold me on them.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:21 (eight years ago) link

yea that video is awesome

original bgm, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:22 (eight years ago) link

Full video for 1mm http://www.jpopsuki.tv/video/Perfume---1mm/623c95ae935400520ba744d102d12f37

abcfsk, Thursday, 5 September 2013 01:47 (eight years ago) link

that video, holy moly

new album isn't really clicking for me but that's alright. I feel like the run up to and including JPN is more than most will ever accomplish and the rest is enjoyable enough. I like 超来輪 on this one.

great GREAT live act. seriously, go see them if you can.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 04:32 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

NA live dates are up!

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:16 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

An interesting Forbes interview

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 23:51 (three years ago) link

Also playing Coachella

abcfsk, Thursday, 3 January 2019 06:59 (three years ago) link

And yeah they had some good answers

abcfsk, Thursday, 3 January 2019 06:59 (three years ago) link

so so cool that they’ll be at Coachella!! Happy to see that the fest is still at least *trying* to reach for unique acts, even tho the American festival landscape - Coachella usually included - is so homogeneous these days.

Having a hard time getting into Future Pop. I like Tenku, but that’s pretty much it. Everything else feels very...um...”early-2010s” EDM?

I prefer the techno-disco of everything through Level3, which in retrospect is a pretty consistently bangin’ album.

KevRus, Friday, 4 January 2019 03:47 (three years ago) link

In a rare cover performance Perfume do Ryuchi Sakamoto's Computer Obaachan https://vimeo.com/309652893

abcfsk, Thursday, 10 January 2019 05:55 (three years ago) link

awesome...never even heard the original

funny part in that interview..."we're gonna hit our 30s now"...that's nuts! their first single was in 2002!

frogbs, Thursday, 10 January 2019 14:29 (three years ago) link

Oh my, that cover! Amazing.

emil.y, Thursday, 10 January 2019 14:37 (three years ago) link

this rules

nxd, Friday, 11 January 2019 10:19 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

i've barely listened to any of their music since jpn but i'm considering seeing them live in nyc in a few days b/c it's rare that i'm in this city and i can't count on necessarily getting the chance to see them again

dyl, Thursday, 28 March 2019 03:54 (three years ago) link

do it! i can't afford to do it this time

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 March 2019 04:02 (three years ago) link

Fucking do it. Absolutely. They were amazing last time. (I can't believe it's not sold out.)

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 28 March 2019 09:36 (three years ago) link

thank you both for encouraging me to make the correct decision

dyl, Sunday, 31 March 2019 04:53 (three years ago) link

love that 'Secret Secret' is in the setlist! such a futuristic jam that I'd sort of forgotten about.

Lots of 'Future Pop' cuts as well, and yet no 'Let Me Know' or 'Tenku?' Kind of odd.

KevRus, Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:49 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

forgot to bump this but NYC show ruled.

I keep thinking about how, each time I see them, there are fewer and fewer songs that I'm really that into if I'm being honest. I mean, nothing from but JPN and no "dream fighter" or "game" but they did "tiny baby"? what!!!

but whatever, somehow still so much fun. and seeing "electro world" was cool. best band.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Thursday, 25 April 2019 04:00 (three years ago) link

Coachella set: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x76b2de

If anyone can tell me how the visual effect in "Daijobanai" works (from around 34.00) I'd love to know, apparently there's no hidden screens or anything.

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Thursday, 25 April 2019 09:32 (three years ago) link

The video has gone down for me (UK) before I got the time to watch it.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 4 May 2019 08:49 (three years ago) link

Ah, found it on another streaming service: https://www.bilibili.com/video/av50153659

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 4 May 2019 09:11 (three years ago) link

Electro Link

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 4 May 2019 09:44 (three years ago) link


Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 4 May 2019 13:54 (three years ago) link

here's my pox that no one asked for:

The best thing
Secret Secret
Magic of Love
Dream Fighter
Fushizen na Girl

KevRus, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 22:07 (three years ago) link

Watched the Coachella last night with my daughters (thank you!). Despite the decent performance I was really let down by (a) the tracks conforming exactly to the album releases with the exception of an interlude (I think), and (b) half the time the camera people obviously had no idea how to shoot them to highlight the choreography, which let's face it is really the only "live" aspect of note. The 3D capture was also used pretty badly with insane rotations and pans unrelated to the music. I would have loved them to use more of the practical effect with the translucent screens onstage, instead of the overlaid elements on the video signal which I presume were shown on screens beside the stage.
It struck me how weird it must have been for them to come on stage to a muted reception instead of the place going nuts. Having seen video of some of their full performances in Japan, their home shows are on another level altogether.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 22:31 (three years ago) link

Yeah, the livestream was a cool showcase of technology, but kind of dizzying if you want to focus on the choreo.

The extended sets they played during their main tour stops were more impressive production-wise. Some unique non-album arrangements too (a glitchy transition from the outro of Secret Secret into an extended, mid-tempo trip-hop piece?!).

Future Pop has grown on me a bit. I think it’s way better than Cosmic Explorer.

KevRus, Friday, 10 May 2019 01:29 (three years ago) link

holy shit i forgot how perfect "daijyobanai" is

clouds, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 14:15 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

It really is! I love how it sounds so ecstatic, and yet the lyrics hint at something more manic or neurotic. That melancholy middle-8 comes out of nowhere with those stabbing off-beat synths. A brief pensive pause before the mania continues.

And best of all, unlike so many Perfume tracks, it doesn’t overstay its welcome being just 3 mins long. And wow that choreography!

KevRus, Friday, 21 June 2019 19:28 (two years ago) link

nine months pass...

From their Reframe shows last year, kind of Einstein On The Beach gone ambient techno


threnody for the victims of alan shearer (Matt #2), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 22:40 (two years ago) link


ufo, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 23:24 (two years ago) link

If they release a Reframe Blu-Ray, I will absolutely buy it.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 2 April 2020 00:02 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

new single a bit of a throwback to their early stuff


the curiously not futuristic future pop was OK and all but I def personally prefer them in this mode

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Thursday, 24 September 2020 20:03 (one year ago) link

^^ agreed this is a nice return to form

orson around (clouds), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 00:24 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

Reframe will be on Netflix starting Friday!

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 14 March 2021 13:03 (one year ago) link

Watching this now and it's phenomenal. Makes me wish my TV had speakers the size of walk-in freezers.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 19 March 2021 21:39 (one year ago) link

Hope this is out on my netflix

abcfsk, Friday, 19 March 2021 21:47 (one year ago) link

Apparently it's a worldwide deal:

So excited to announce our “Reframe THEATER EXPERIENCE with you” is now available worldwide exclusively on @Netflix! Make sure to check out Team Perfume’s word-class creativity once again. #prfm https://t.co/4VwizqUunD pic.twitter.com/FVyVoNTaqi

— Perfume (@perfumeofficial) March 19, 2021

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 19 March 2021 21:48 (one year ago) link

edge is the most perfect fucking song in the history of music

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 March 2021 00:41 (one year ago) link

obv i’m very stoned and watching this right now

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 March 2021 00:42 (one year ago) link

i am not sure how they keep outdoing themselves visually

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 March 2021 00:43 (one year ago) link

Yeah, the performance of "Edge" is fucking amazing. It's on YouTube, for those who don't have Netflix/haven't seen this yet:


but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 20 March 2021 01:14 (one year ago) link

go Brad, liveblog!

assert (MatthewK), Saturday, 20 March 2021 08:54 (one year ago) link

it’s fantastic!!! the set is pretty weird but they’re trying to do something very specific so it’s chill. visually mind boggling every few seconds and just keeps building and building. missed “challenger” when it came out so it was nice to encounter a new perfume banger

it feels very for-true-fans-only to me in a way, i wouldn’t necessarily introduce anyone to perfume with this show, but yeah it rules

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 March 2021 10:42 (one year ago) link

Still can't believe I was actually in Tokyo when these shows were happening but couldn't get it together to source a ticket, oh well.

judged and found wanting by the steve hoffman forums (Matt #2), Saturday, 20 March 2021 11:29 (one year ago) link

edge rules

nxd, Sunday, 21 March 2021 19:10 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Confirmed for Primavera Sound 2022. Wonder if they'll play London again?


wherefore art thou romeo challenger (Matt #2), Tuesday, 25 May 2021 20:43 (eleven months ago) link

one month passes...


new single "polygon wave" is fun

ufo, Friday, 2 July 2021 13:00 (ten months ago) link

two months pass...

Polygon Wave video out now, not exactly battering down the walls of innovation but a definite return to form


Nakata's got some new Capsule tracks out too:



a flange is gonna come (Matt #2), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 13:52 (eight months ago) link

I always like when they play around with supernatural/posthuman-ness in their videos, so I think the end of this one is great. Not just the VR goggle thing but the way they walk away from each other stone-faced at the end. (Also, the eye makeup when they take the goggles off is kinda off-putting, like some kind of weird cyber pinkeye.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 15:28 (eight months ago) link

seven months pass...

new album July 27th


さらに!全国9都市を廻るアリーナツアー「Perfume 9th Tour 2022 “PLASMA”」の開催も決定🗾👏

"PLASMA" ご予約はこちらhttps://t.co/rSzlyAxywz#prfm pic.twitter.com/yzVfPbFoS1

— Perfume_Staff (@Perfume_Staff) May 12, 2022

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 12 May 2022 11:04 (one week ago) link

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