A Rockists Guide To Rap

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TS: useless generalizations vs. idiotic conclusions

IT'S A TIE!

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PappaWheelie burried Paul. The clues are there man! (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 29 September 2006 01:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Ian Faith: They're not gonna release the album... because they have decided that the cover is sexist.

Nigel Tufnel: Well, so what? What's wrong with bein' sexy? I mean there's no...

Ian Faith: Sex-IST!

David St. Hubbins: IST!

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 29 September 2006 02:12 (seventeen years ago) link

rock is way more dead than rap, duder.

TS: racontuers vs. T.I.

not that I wqnt to give an iota of credence to his "argument"

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 29 September 2006 02:46 (seventeen years ago) link

"I'm gonna leak one of the albums on the list of 13 essentials."

this is too pitiful to be a joke. i think this guy really just glosses over all this hatred and is gonna do what he came to do. wow.

seems that he's far far from understanding how very basic types of interaction should work. the way he views his blog is like a person who getting an email address and just repeatedly checking, seeing they have no mail, thinking it's curious, but not wondering why that might be.

like he's heard the term 'blog', seen that there are people who have high-profile ones, and just naturally assumes that he is in the same level in that particular forum, regardless of the fact that there's no screening, they are free, anyone can get one, etc. etc. like he earnestly believes that people will want to hear his fucking opinions, but puts no thought into the practicality of that, and ignores all observations to the contrary. it's mind boggling, i can't figure this out!

sublime frequency (sublime frequency), Friday, 29 September 2006 04:10 (seventeen years ago) link

He's the next level of the internet.

Maybe the last level.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Friday, 29 September 2006 05:07 (seventeen years ago) link

just let his threads sink without even bothering to reply. i know it's tempting but come on.

gear (gear), Friday, 29 September 2006 05:09 (seventeen years ago) link

You're right, of course, sorry.
But really...if this sinks to the bottom without reply, tomorrow it will be something worse. It's a train wreck.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Friday, 29 September 2006 05:16 (seventeen years ago) link

After extensive research...,

Take a bath, hippie.

nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Friday, 29 September 2006 05:35 (seventeen years ago) link

got some soap?

rock is way more dead than rap, duder.

Amigo, if you think Rock is dead, then you really are out of touch...but then again most people are...except me ofcourse. I'm only slightly out of touch, but I'm aware enough to know that there is just as mcuch great Rock being made today as there was 40 years ago. The only difference is that society has changed, and that the best Rock being made today isnt generally heard on the radio...
Rock may not have the social impact it did in the 60s, but sonically you cans still find plenty of quality...

Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann), Friday, 29 September 2006 11:29 (seventeen years ago) link

This is the first time i've come into this topic but it looks really annoying.

Rowlando for the kidz (Sam Rowlands), Friday, 29 September 2006 11:33 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost:

I guess you discovered this during the same extensive research that led you to conclude that white people like the Beastie Boys, huh?

bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 29 September 2006 11:37 (seventeen years ago) link

> if you think Rock is dead, then you really are out of touch...but then again most people are

vs.

> Some of the best music of all time is boring.

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Friday, 29 September 2006 11:56 (seventeen years ago) link

what's amazing to me is that pew never seems to have any particular point he wants to make yet he manages to wind himself and everybody else up for ages

i mean, most of us have started dumm threads before, had some ill-conceived idea formulated in a moment of frustration that we've senselessly defended for awhile until coming around, but pew doesn't appear to have any particular points to defend, dumm or otherwise

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 29 September 2006 12:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the particular point p.e.w. is trying to make, generally, is "I'm great, me".

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 29 September 2006 12:06 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm really feeling the ilx love in here.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:28 (seventeen years ago) link

then you really are out of touch...but then again most people are...except me ofcourse

vs.

rap is here to stay. Actually its already dead and gone

Pee Pee PEW has seriously earned his stripes as the most clueless ilxor to gain everybody's attention. More than jagger, squirrel, and maybe even the great hongro himself (well, hongro's got plenty of seniroty; enough to have people come to love him for what he is. This thread proves PEW to be beyond that).

I've been working on a project to combine these forces into a dream team. So far I got squirrel under PEW's spell, and we've seen some PEW/Hongro action brewing here. I'm sure they'll both claim to be too rogue for one another, but just give me some time on the greatest project of doom the internets has ever seen.

PappaWheelie burried Paul. The clues are there man! (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

(today, I have made the greatest cup of coffee the internets has ever seen!)

PappaWheelie burried Paul. The clues are there man! (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think it would be out of order to explain to Paul that "rockism" does not mean "preferring rock to other genres"

I was waiting for someone to say this.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

b-b-but we're talking about pew here, who certainly would not digest it

PappaWheelie burried Paul. The clues are there man! (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

that's the big rant I ended up not posting.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link

haha it is amazing that notwithstanding/despite/because of his misunderstanding of the term, pew has decided that not only is "rockism" a stable, agreed-upon category within some unspecified classification system - he has decided to be FOR it!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

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capt thinking (Pablo A), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that actually PEW in that gif with Louis Jagger?

I keep trying to ignore these threads but can't stop myself from clicking... the mindboggling stupidity is quite compelling.

xpost awh I miss piggy

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

capt thinking, soo got damn OTM

I made the marchant/wagamuffin comparison on another thread too

PappaWheelie burried Paul. The clues are there man! (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

(the difference is, marchant's team members were all in her head, which made it disturbing on some level)

PappaWheelie burried Paul. The clues are there man! (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

"More than jagger, squirrel, and maybe even the great hongro himself"

to be fair, these other three all have their idiosyncrasies but none of 'em are really trolls like this uh, horse's patootie (why is he so in love with that word...? very weird). Geir SP and Jagger are at least genuinely interested in dialogue and ideas and stuff.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i think he's gone

Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

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rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

it seems like we can't decide if he should be banned or if we should just sit back and enjoy the LOLs... at least he's not like that dude who posted endless threads about what pop starlet fuck fantasies...

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i think he's gone

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mark 0 (mark 0), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Calling Squirrel Police idiosyncratic is like selling cars from the junkyard as "gently used"

(x-post, you obv haven't rammed horns with the great wagamuffin enough to witness his patterns yet)

PappaWheelie burried Paul. The clues are there man! (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i sort of wanted to play devil's advocate and agree with wagemann's proposition b/c i was bored... but i can't really find one. i don't know what he's advocating, other than his weird list for his montly-updated blog.

max (maxreax), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

obviously his thesis is that rockists don't properly "understand Rap/HipHops influence on Rockism"

bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 29 September 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

YOU GOTTA KNOW WHERE YA COME FROM BEFORE YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE YA ARE

bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 29 September 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

haha it is amazing that notwithstanding/despite/because of his misunderstanding of the term, pew has decided that not only is "rockism" a stable, agreed-upon category within some unspecified classification system - he has decided to be FOR it!

Can someone explain to the Cat who I'm quoting above, how the enlgish language is an evolving entity...and I dont like the way the word 'Rock' has been hi-jacked by the Popcicle Popologists and used an and ISM. Am I the only one outraged that these Pop fairy's are besmirching our sacred Rock? Rock once stood for something dammit! It was more than music it was both the manifestation and the motivation of an ethos. A honest, working-class, lets get stoned on our lunch break and get shit-faced and chase titties in our Camero on weekends ETHIC!
Well, sure those times are gone. But at its best Rock was universal. It touched something inside of people, and it still does today--and I have set out to reclaim all that is good about Rock and turn the derogatory term 'rockism' back onto these popist snobs (like the blacks turned the degoratory term niggger around, like 'punks' turned the term punk around and like faggots...well, faggots never quite succeeded, but dag gummit at least they tried!!!)
So can somebody please explain that to this guy I quoted. Explain to them that ole Wagemann here isnt a mindless automaton who goes along with wahtever the popular trends and political correctness police tell him he's supposed to go along with. Old Wagemann is inspired by Richard Pryor (who comes from peoria, just across the river from my hometown) and plays by his own rules, speaks his own language, and who, sure, will have sex with a heavy set woman every so often--is that so wrong?

Long Live Rock!
God Bless America!
Seacrest Out!

Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Shit. I guess I stand corrected.

Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Where you from, PEW? Pekin? Metamora?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

jaymc
Pekin is were I was born and went to high school...I lived in marquette hieght from the age of ten to 18 though...
From 18 to 23 I lived all over the place, mostly Macomb, IL where I got a Bach Degree, then I moved to Chicago and have lived there every since.
I take it you are from central illinois as well?

Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked PEW a lot better back when he seemed scrappy and serious. Now he knows he's in the limelight, so he lets on a bit too much with the fakery. It's like the difference between watching the original Ali G stuff and watching that talk show he did later, where he'd interview celebrities who knew he was in character.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost I have extended family there. I'm in Chicago.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost He was serious and scrappy once?

Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Klusterf#@k is a typical hipster wannabe...30 something year old men who still cling desperately to their high school standards are annoying...

-- Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWageman...), September 26th, 2006. (later)

http://www.myspace.com/paulewagemann
38, chicago, likes big boobs

PappaWheelie burried Paul. The clues are there man! (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

It’s time to tell the truth about Smurfs. You see, Smurfs are a lot like other folks; they have dreams and ambitions, deep, thoughtful conversations with each other, and good and bad times.
“But,” people ask, “do Smurfs have... you know... sex?”

The answer is an emphatic and resounding yes! And why shouldn’t they? They’re people, too. What most people don’t know is why Smurfs are blue. Well, the reason is because Smurfs only have sex once a year. Face it: if you had sex only once a year, you’d be blue, too. Once a year, in the Smurf village, flags and banners fly happily in the breeze, proclaiming that the day of the annual Smuckfest has arrived. Birds sing and the Sun comes out to watch, despite the weather-Smurf’s direst predictions. I guess good ol’ Mr. Sun is a voyeur. In the middle of town, Papa Smurf gives a brief speech explaining the origin of the Smuckfest; how Dr. C. Everett Koop came to the village and warned all the Smurfs about AIDS.

Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 29 September 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Paul, what do you think about abortion?

Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Friday, 29 September 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

or absorption, like say, when one song does something a little different, then gets absorbed into the genre afterwards for decades...

PappaWheelie burried Paul. The clues are there man! (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 29 September 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I got a Bach Degree

Hey, didn't you say (repeatedly) you were a rockist? Why listen to Bach then?

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 29 September 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

big boobs won't return my emails.

M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 29 September 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

sebastian bach degree

check mod request re: big boobs

PappaWheelie burried Paul. The clues are there man! (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 29 September 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

or absorption, like say, when one song does something a little different, then gets absorbed into the genre afterwards for decades...

This is an interesting question actually...were you being serious or is this some kind of ILX-inside joke that old wagemann aint privy to?

Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann), Friday, 29 September 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link


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