pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

The funny thing about October is that I know a ton of huge beer nerds all over the country and not one of them reads October, in fact I would wager than 90% of them don't even know it exists.

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feel like October definitely seems aimed at music ppl who are curious about spending money on expensive beer rather than ppl who are legit fancy beer nerds

definitely doesn't feel as inside baseball or in the weeds with the industry as a real enthusiast would want

is that beer as nasty as it looks

they finally heard enough from the sault stans lol

The funny thing about October is that I know a ton of huge beer nerds all over the country and not one of them reads October, in fact I would wager than 90% of them don't even know it exists.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:45 AM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

ditto

is pfork's ignoring / downplaying of sault because they're not from the u.s.?

“Because they’re not from the US” seems like a pretty unlikely conspiracy theory considering pitchfork’s history

i'm not proposing a conspiracy theory. i'm just trying to think of an explanation because their ignoring of one of the year's most acclaimed acts is completely puzzling.

Occam's Razor answer: shit sometimes falls through the cracks

Austin, think of it like the Grammy Awards (an institution that I know you revere)—sometimes deserving artists are denied recognition, or their recognition is delayed, but we’re all happy for the artists when it arrives!

Has Pitchfork ever championed acts like Sault?

I'm trying to think of acts like Sault

Moses Sumney and Michael Kiwanuka come closest imo

yeah definitely, Sault kinda unique in that zone for taking on more post punk/nyc early 80s art scene vibes

8.2 with no BNM was pretty funny though, like they were specifically trolling this thread

In certain ways it actually sounds extremely pitchfork to me which I think is why its exclusion was jarring ... a lot of the stuff musically it’s cycling through feels extremely on brand for it, and the way it’s using using those sources is in parallel w other pastiche acts its celebrated in the past imo

Cross post w matt

I don't hear contemporary analogues to "I Just Want to Dance," though -- Instant Funk, Champaign, or Ashford & Simpson but with a hip-hop ethos maybe?

There aren't* a couple of average-looking White dudes who they can take black and white pictures of while they stand mournfully behind a Mac Book Pro in relation to this, so why would they care?

* or, if there are, they haven't come forward publicly

I don't hear contemporary analogues to "I Just Want to Dance," though -- Instant Funk, Champaign, or Ashford & Simpson but with a hip-hop ethos maybe?

― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, December 24, 2020 2:12 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

It’s a fresh contrast of elements but I def hear breakbeat dance shit that is on trend for current dance music pfork likes, disco records which have been back on trend for like 15 years, it’s pretty current in its use of the past

nyc early 80s artscene vibes = last 3 blood orange albums

I don’t want to sound overly reverent, it’s kind of mannered and tasteful but I like it more than the Jessie ware abt which I felt similarly .... I do think it’s doing more than just 80s art scene stuff though. There’s little other things it’s cycling through that feel more modern than 40 years ago... think 20 years ago. It has a bit of a dj set vibe to it

Austin, think of it like the Grammy Awards (an institution that I know you revere)—sometimes deserving artists are denied recognition, or their recognition is delayed, but we’re all happy for the artists when it arrives!

― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Thursday, December 24, 2020 11:38 AM

i start to question whether not i like them anymore when people i like win grammies. it's like a fucking virus.

Maybe you can get the vaccine prior to Sunday, Jan. 31, 2021, and enjoy the broadcast on CBS!

i've said it before but Grammys = money + clout to the artist, both immediately and for life, so you should never be sad when somebody you like wins a grammy. you can be sad they exist though!

The weird thing about Pitchfork ignoring Sault until now is not just that they would seem to be in Pitchfork's wheelhouse, but also it's not like they're super-obscure anymore. They were #1 on NPR's best of 2020 list and also showed up on the Slate and Entertainment Weekly lists.

first i heard of them was when they started turning up on eoy lists

Prob slipped through the cracks and it’s too embarrassing to be among the last to be excited (stubbornly they want to be the ones to break an act) so they give it a solid score but nothing to attention grabbing. Just enough to show they weren’t left behind completely. AKA they’re saulty about being late.

too*

I mean I wouldn’t be mad at that score if it was timed right lol but now it looks salty so not only are you late but you’re late and seem mad abt it whereas if you’re on time you can help shape the conversation, bring up relevant skepticisms, without seeming like your score is brand protection or whatever

8.2 is a great score!

We need a special prosecutor on this

A Sault with a Deadly Pepa

Honestly, they may have benefited from being reviewed together (admittedly some time after the fact), as the pair of albums scored higher than each Taylor Swift album did individually. (Taylor’s albums likely would have earned a higher combined score if they were reviewed as a twofer.)

I demand a byline

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reminder that this is still the website that determines whether or not your music will be popular

pitchtok

xpost well then I'd expect them to dress well

I love music ™ and I also like papaya chunks

Do they usually run this long into January with only two reviews a day? I know they always slow way down for the holidays and immediately after, but I'm not sure if this intentional or a reflection of the post-holiday new release trickle.

January is slow, man.

reminder that this is still the website that determines whether or not your music will be popular

This can't be true anymore

Yeah. Now an album's popularity is based on the opinion of some bald dork with glasses.

I wish

YOUNG bald dork with glasses unfortch

Plus TikToks and Netflix syncs, and I think that accounts for everything, yup.

i just realized pitchfork hasnt given any best new tracks since October? what's going on here