pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

Erm . . . I do. Pitchfork's ads aren't affected by it.

The current one is a huge banner for their ongoing Paris festival which takes up the whole of the screen, pushing whatever review I clicked on down to the bottom of the page.

Another one is their ad for their Sunday Review, which comes up on the screen 10 seconds after you have clicked onto a new page, every single time, no matter what.

It's fucking infuriating.

Yeah, I got that Paris banner too. Just add pitchfork.com##.livestream-crown to the filter list of your adblocker and you'll never see the damn thing again.

In Ublock Origin I don't get the Sunday Review ad (or any other ads on Pitchfork), so you might need to update your filter lists and/or extension.

I'll give that a go, thanks.

you just know that livestream is on every page so they can say it was watched by however many people

if they've always been so woke, they should have reviewed it already. absolute bullshit.

(by the way, i bought that album on vinyl on its release date and have been living in constant disappointment ever since. such an overrated, sunstance-free pile of trash.)

they were decidedly not woke in 2000 when that album came out

and they definitely are now, going by dead prez let's get free standards.

and all it took was getting purchased by Conde Nast

anybody remember the stupid fake censoring of the dead prez album cover?

Dead Prez is fun!

i've listened to a lot of their music. even enjoyed some of it, perhaps surprisingly. i've had a lot of thoughts and feelings about it over the years.

but never, ever, not even once, has the adjective "fun" ever crossed my mind in all of that.

I went to school with some redneck crackers
around the time Third Bass dropped the Cactus Album

shit goes!

C'mon, "Mind Sex" is a fun song, admit it, Austin.

i first heard that song when i was nineteen. even then, i remember thinking, "this is one of the corniest things i've ever heard."

beat was nice though.

this shitty boyz record is great

lol dude wants to stretch for some blue collar Buffalo content and doesn't know there's a fancy hotel chain Loews Hotels

"It’s a sentiment Gunn circles back to often on Hermes 7 with crass lines like, “First nigga in my city with a Rolls/Fuck two bad bitches at the Lowe’s,” injecting a conventional rap boast with some of his hometown’s blue-collar attitude."

lol, though that reminds me of a discarded thread idea I had for luxury brands you only know about from rappers

Never heard of the hotel chain, but I would've thought about the theater chain before the home improvement store.

Thank you for coming to Loew's
Sit back and relax
Enjoy the show!

I prefer the critic's version of that line

xp My wife and I used to have a joke about that jingle — I would sing it when we first met, and she refused to believe it existed (I guess the theater chain was never in California). Then eventually YouTube uploads came around, and I was able to triumphantly prove it.

(by the way, i bought that album on vinyl on its release date and have been living in constant disappointment ever since. such an overrated, sunstance-free pile of trash.)

― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 4 November 2019 22:08 (one week ago) link

Bizarre post

thanks; it's what i do.

when sony bought loews the jingle got rebranded in the most awkward way

big news

https://pitchfork.com/news/real-estate-unveil-signature-wine/

Real Estate have unveiled a signature red wine blend. Produced in collaboration with Sonoma Valley’s Echo Echo Wine Company, “Reality Estates” is a blend of malbec, petit verdot, and cabernet sauvignon. According to the winery, the blend is “hand crafted to reflect Real Estate’s love of intense and nuanced flavors while complementing the sanguine feel of their music.” The product description also says the wine contains “aromas of blackberries and dark cherries in tune with black pepper, plus flavors of Satsuma plum, dark chocolate, with medium body and light, silky tannins.” Preview the bottles below.

yes but are Echo Echo Wine selling real estate?

Ivers composed “In Heaven” for David Lynch’s debut film Eraserhead, hosted the public access variety show New Wave Theatre, and recorded numerous demo cassettes and reel-to-reel tapes, leaving a mess of pop oddities at the time of his still-unsolved murder in 1983. On Becoming Peter Ivers, RVNG Intl. presents a collection of his bizarre and beautiful recordings, some of which have never before seen the light of day. It is an embarrassment of riches that crowns Ivers as the weirdo king of bedroom pop, decades before the genre existed.

*sigh*. Emitt Rhodes' first home studio recordings: 1970, McCartney's home recorded solo debut: 1969, Cleaners from Venus' first home recordings: 1982, etc etc

I'm sure there's others - Gary Wilson (1977)?

DECADES!

(also, Pete Townshend's demos starting around 1966-67)

could arguably call the Beach Boys' home studio recordings from the late 60s the real ground zero (Smiley Smile, for ex.)

were those records seen as part of a genre called bedroom pop at the time?

I don't think the writer is claiming that this was the first person who recorded in a bedroom

genres are often codified after the fact. even so, the most generous reading of that quote implies that no one had identified anything as "bedroom pop" prior to 2003, which is definitely not the case.

let's take a look at wikipedia, shall we

DIY music predates written history, but "lo-fi" as it was understood after the 1990s can be traced to 1950s rock and roll.[31] AllMusic writes that the genre's recordings were made "cheaply and quickly, often on substandard equipment. In that sense, the earliest rock & roll records, most of the garage rock of the '60s, and much of the punk rock of the late '70s could be tagged as Lo-Fi."[32] The Beach Boys' albums Smiley Smile (1967), Wild Honey (1967), and Friends (1968) were a trilogy of lo-fi albums recorded mostly in Brian Wilson's makeshift home studio; the albums were later referred to as components of his "Bedroom Tapes".[33] Pitchfork writer Mark Richardson credited Smiley Smile with "basically invent[ing] the kind of lo-fi bedroom pop that would later propel Sebadoh, Animal Collective, and other characters."[34]

idk why I even look at this fucking site anymore. morbid curiosity I guess.

I feel like it's referring to something more specific and contemporary, as defined in this recent New Yorker piece by Carrie Battan:

At some point in the past decade, the bedroom replaced the garage as the primary spiritual escape hatch for suburban teen-agers who wanted to express themselves through music. Oversized amps and hand-me-down drum sets were usurped by Wi-Fi, laptops, and home-recording software. The angst and the noise of garage rock gave way to more subdued sounds, as young musicians began making the kind of hushed, Internet-facing electronic pop that could be kept secret from adults, rather than weaponized against them. This insular form of music eventually crystallized into a scene called “bedroom pop”—a digitally connected cohort of musicians with its own stars, styles, and dedicated playlists. (It also shifted the meaning of the word “bedroom” in music away from the sensual and toward the cerebral.) Like many terms used to characterize micro-genres, bedroom pop is a misnomer—not all of it is recorded in bedrooms, and most of it is not popular—but it is an apt description of a woozy lo-fi style generated from self-imposed isolation.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/08/19/clairo-and-the-fuzzy-diy-sounds-of-bedroom-pop

But of course, you're right that the term is older than that.

Casiotone for the Painfully Alone's first album came out in 1999.

it's funny how research is easier than it ever has been in the history of the world, and yet ppl are still too lazy to do it

ooh baby makin music

There's a Spotify playlist called Bedroom Pop and it's all recent stuff like Clairo and Rex Orange County.

guys, "bedroom pop" refers to a specific group of modern musicians even though the term was used before...

if that's the case why is it being retroactively applied to a dude from 1983 who did not have a laptop, an internet connection and home recording software

were you big mad when they used to call Neil Young the "godfather of grunge"

even so, the most generous reading of that quote implies that no one had identified anything as "bedroom pop" prior to 2003

wait, what? he's talking about tapes by a guy who died in 1983.

I just don't get why this guy is the progenitor of this "genre" and not all these other people who were doing m/l the same type of thing

wait, what? he's talking about tapes by a guy who died in 1983.

right, and "decades" implies at least more than one decade ie +20 years = 2003 is the earliest point at which "the genre existed"

The compilation presents 25 tracks culled from over 500 recordings that Ivers laid down at his Laurel Canyon home and studios in L.A. in the mid-to-late ’70s

not quite so late as 2003, but granted, people were definitely using "bedroom pop" as a genre term when Exile in Guyville came out.

I think the issue is the word "genre." If it's referring to the specific group of modern musicians, maybe better to call it a "scene." Or just say "decades before Clairo came along."

yeah.

even so what is the connection between this guy and the current scene, as distinguished from other bedroom pop weirdos of the last 50 years (per the "weirdo king... decades prior")

You guys are absolute pedants and you sound like you're outside a Hot Topic screaming that Hawthorne Heights isn't punk

GenXers don't yell, we eyeroll