pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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a thread for Italians Do It Better

Neil S, Thursday, 4 May 2017 16:06 (seven years ago) link

love the chromatics and the IDIB comps

nomar, Thursday, 4 May 2017 16:24 (seven years ago) link

but are you in real life?

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 4 May 2017 16:25 (seven years ago) link

I love the Chromatics but between IDIB's determination to reissue and repackage the same material multiple times, and the music news cycle willing to report every brainfart of Johnny Jewel as exciting developments, I can see why they would seem over-exposed.

boxedjoy, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:03 (seven years ago) link

I would consider Chromatics an ILM staple - they've placed in EOY polls a couple of times

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link

i love chromatics, but they def are one of "those critically feted bands" to a degree that's sometimes annoying

austinb, Friday, 5 May 2017 01:31 (seven years ago) link

i quite liked them for a while but i really listened to their last (?) album hard and ended up being disillusioned by how little they/JJ had to 'say'

j., Friday, 5 May 2017 02:04 (seven years ago) link

"six beers paired with six metal albums"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 19:51 (seven years ago) link

Tool and A Perfect Circle Won’t Release Albums in 2017

early rejecter, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link

they're the only two tbh

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 20:37 (seven years ago) link

p4k gonna have to rewrite that pwr bttm review

flappy bird, Friday, 12 May 2017 03:20 (seven years ago) link

Can anyone explain PWR BTTM to me, are they supposed to be really great? I feel like Pitchfork is the only place I'd read about them.

nomar, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 04:55 (six years ago) link

the first album had some riffs but ehh

they were very popular with a certain crowd and it's an absolutely insane story, i've never seen or read about a band that went from the verge of success to being dropped and erased by everyone. the swift elimination came about because the allegations against one of the members was completely antithetical to the message and conceit of their band.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 05:21 (six years ago) link

Pitchfork is probably just relieved that this news broke out before they had a chance to publish a review of the album.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link

jfc pitchfork enough with the Master of None bullshit

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link

otm i fucking hate that show

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link

ugh that looks like one of those Slate branded content things about "How TV show X creates a soundtrack for NOW"

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link

the swift elimination came about because the allegations against one of the members was completely antithetical to the message and conceit of their band.

it didn't help that their initial response was a straight up lie, that this was the first time they heard of the rape allegations, when in reality various band members and colleagues knew of it for months and had been keeping quiet for the good of their careers.

fuck all these enabling assholes i hope they choke on their glitter

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:03 (six years ago) link

yeah that was insane, how do you not just jump off a bridge if this happens to you

flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:29 (six years ago) link

http://pitchfork.com/news/70878-arrested-development-season-5-on-netflix-announced/

this was posted 7 hours ago and no one has complained about it not being music-related on this thread yet, are you guys ok

na (NA), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link

i like this piece http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1517-queer-kids-deserve-better-than-pwr-bttm

flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 22:02 (six years ago) link

Didn't they know about the allegations against Hopkins for like three months? Sat on the story hoping it would go away. Read that somewhere, no idea if it's true. if it is though...

Handsome Bookor, Thursday, 18 May 2017 00:28 (six years ago) link

great input, thanks

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 18 May 2017 01:07 (six years ago) link

1,518 Choosy Moms Agree

is this Singles sdtk review a fucking joke

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 16:51 (six years ago) link

lol they should've gotten Cameron Crowe to write it

flappy bird, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link

just bizarre to position it as a pivotal moment/artifact of grunge culture when it was a late-arriving cash-in w shitty songs and is also an actively terrible movie

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link

I remember being absolutely crushed/crestfallen by how bad those Westerberg songs were

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link

Drown was and still is v good fuiud imho

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link

truly a pivotal song from the Seattle grunge scene

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link

lmao also true

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link

lol yeah Drown is the obvious standout on the soundtrack but the movie always struck me as extremely corny and not representative of grunge or Seattle at all. it came out a full year after Nevermind, too - not surprised it was seen as a cash-in / opportunistic. I wonder when he started writing/shooting it though - had to have been before the grunge phenomenon really took off.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link

well of course, movies take years to make. but that doesn't change the overall cultural context or its reception. nobody took this movie seriously, it was garbage.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

"In a particularly great anecdote from Our Town, Truly guitarist Robert Roth recalls watching Nirvana debut 'Teen Spirit' live at Seattle’s OK Hotel while 'across the street, there was a private thing where they were filming Alice in Chains for Singles.'"

maura, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link

the singles soundtrack has at least three classic tracks (im not counting "chloe dancer/crown of thorns" bc it debuted elsewhere)

maura, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:32 (six years ago) link

As reporting and criticism, the Singles piece is superb – and I don't care much for that album or that cultural moment.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:32 (six years ago) link

probably more like six tbh

maura, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:32 (six years ago) link

xxxxp I realize that, I was just speculating about Crowe's intention in making it.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:32 (six years ago) link

'singles' got some decent reviews, i don't remember it being regarded as a cash-in or exploitative at the time of its release. maybe in seattle, idk. i guess when i think opportunistic cash-ins from the '90s i think 'reality bites', which was much worse as a film and as a soundtrack. nothing in 'singles' is as hilarious as Ethan Hawke screaming a PG-13 version of "Add It Up" at Winona Ryder.

nomar, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

like it wasn't Jon Bon Jovi going into his manager's office in 1993 and demanding "Make me look like Nirvana."

flappy bird, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link

i have watched both in the last year and SINGLES holds up much better

maura, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link

Singles at least feels written and played naturally where Reality Bites is the Trump ethos on celluloid.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

Funny, I watched "Reality Bites" on election day last year...

geoffreyess, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

oh so it's you I blame

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link

the studio sat on singles for two years, right?

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link

therefore imo it's not a cash-in

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

reality bites is pure insane nonsense

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link


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