pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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Oh my God, what just happened at P-Fork
Mon Apr 1 07:08:25 2002
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I'm not going to spew any elitist bullshit, but Alanis Morrissette, Kylie Minogue? Oh my fucking God. I'll stay for a little while to see if P-Fork still serves my needs, but with today's front page, I'm not counting on it. I understand the career move, but I just don't think it's going to serve me any more.

jess, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

stu Re: Oh my God, what just happened at P-Fork Mon Apr 1 07:41:08 2002 65.92.243.96

I wonder if it's going to serve anyone's needs. I don't think a web- only publication can attract readers interested in Alanis Morissette and Kylie Minogue. To my knowledge, no one actually hunts down information about such artists. People just hear about it on tv and that's it. Let's give Pitchfork a few months, until the corporate contributors pull the plug.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I am very disappointed. Could they have made it any more obvious? COME ON, PEOPLE.

David Raposa, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I don't think a web- only publication can attract readers interested in Alanis Morissette and Kylie Minogue.

QUOTE OF THE YEAR.

jess, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

What makes me think that things will be back to normal by tomorrow? ;)

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I don't know Sean... it would be April 2nd, which would make it one day after...

Andy K, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

You scalawags, you make me laff. Perhaps.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Speaking of which, HEY NED! My Bloody Valentine are finally releasing their new album!

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

We thought about that as one of the news items.

Dare, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"i for one will not be returning to this site if you're seriously going to be reviewing alanis. like i can't read that shit everywhere and anywhere? the reason i had pitchfork as my home page was because i could actually find out about the shit i care about. i'm glad you can pay your rent now, it's too bad that you sold out your millions of readers for britney fans in body glitter to do it."

Dare, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

pitchfork as your homepage, classic or dud?

the first thing i thought (after, well, this is no all cure all the time) was that i wished they really had "sold out" (what the fuck, is this 93?), because maybe it would mean LESS GODDAMN PROG.

jess, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

he's calling you out, leone. FITE!

Todd Burns, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I think I'd rather read about Alanis and Kylie than most of the stuff they normally review.

Sean, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Their funniest joke came months ago.

Nicole, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I don't know what all you fools are talking about... I only WISH all of it were true.

Well, the Albini thing practically is...

mr. sparkle, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

We thought about that as one of the news items.

Makes sense, really.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I don't know what all you fools are talking about... I only WISH all of it were true.

Well, the Albini thing practically is... huh???

Brock K., Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

LESS GODDAMN PROG

So, does that mean we'll write about the next Radiohead album, or not?

dleone, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

And that Flaming Lips thing actually is true. I think.

powertonevolume, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Hein? Is the joke that Pitchfork reviewed some pop musik?? Even their KYLIE review was as dull as www.defra.gov.uk/farm/sustain/default.htm ARRRGHHHHHHHHH!! Then again Pitchfork = dull is a big shocker along the lines of Nelson in COLUMN!!!!!! shocker.

Sarah, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

'On' column? 'HAS' column?! I can see him from my bladdy window but does that help my BRANE I think NICHT.

Sarah, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Dom, how much of the Kylie review was farce? "The song exudes a catchiness that belies its inherent simplicity, so reassuring during an era when chart acts sound increasingly baroque and producers race to see who can ape electronic music trends first" sounds at least semi-serious.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

that is because kylie is, like sophie ellis bextor, going for a retro- mancuso/levan vibe, with all the classicism inherent in such an endeavour.

gareth, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Actually, I did try to write about that record in the same way I would have for anything else at Pitchfork. I thought the gag would be better if people really thought we were changing styles, and Spin may be full of ads, but at least the reviews aren't jokes! As far as I know, anyway. Dullness wasn't intentional though.

dleone, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

best e-mail address ever, eh starbar?

dudley, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Dead right sir. Power shandies all round to the geezer behind it eh?

Sarah, Wednesday, 3 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

From: DWilliams@EQRWORLD.com Subject: NO, Just Admit You Like It Up There

You have completed your learning of life's lessons. Now, you suck ass just like all the other bores before you. Kylie, Alanis? Whatever, bitch. I am sure you already have the defense mechanisms in place so, this will mean nothing but, another exercise in...oh, who cares. Looking elsewhere for reality...or maybe I can pretend to be a rubber worm like pitchwhore.com...here big fishie, look, I rounded 'em up for you in a arrel. A whole demographic!

Not Funny

Dare, Thursday, 4 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

Y'know sometimes they really are asking for it:

"White Williams issues a debut album layered with impeccable influences-- including Roxy Music, Beck, and T. Rex-- and a sense of calculated disaffection."

Well shit SIGN ME UP.

lukas, Thursday, 1 November 2007 18:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that was a bit of a repellant blurb if I ever saw one.

Z S, Thursday, 1 November 2007 19:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

Wait, are you saying that doesn't seem accurate?

nabisco, Thursday, 1 November 2007 19:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

I read 'White' as 'While' and thought "The Saul Williams album sounds like that?"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 November 2007 19:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

it's more that they used that as their _hook_

x-post

lukas, Thursday, 1 November 2007 19:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

The front blurbs are always stripped/condensed summary descriptions from the review inside -- in this case

His songs are thin and languorous, with impeccable influences and the sort of calculated disaffection that comes from an MFA in design and a good weed connection.

nabisco, Thursday, 1 November 2007 19:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

omg that is horrorshow

The blurb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the article quote

HI DERE, Thursday, 1 November 2007 20:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

I assume that's an article quote; nabisco, if you just made that up then SHAME ON YOU.

HI DERE, Thursday, 1 November 2007 20:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

why would a critic ever try to guess where a song comes from?

Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 November 2007 20:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm more bothered by beck as impeccable influence

dmr, Thursday, 1 November 2007 20:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

Wait, are you saying that doesn't seem accurate?

The description of "a sense of calculated disaffection", a combination of words that makes me imagine the shittiest band of all time, followed by "recommended" was repellant for me. I guess I like my disaffection to be natural, not carefully planned, so I would never recommend something like that.

Then again, I've never heard it so what do I know and so on.

Z S, Thursday, 1 November 2007 20:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

b-but someone at pfork said "hm, how can we get people to read this review? I know! we'll mention the artist's impeccable influences and calculated disaffection! that'll reel 'em in!"

RIP satire etc

lukas, Thursday, 1 November 2007 20:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

they could have collaged+mis-used _anything_ from the article, and they collaged+mis-used that

lukas, Thursday, 1 November 2007 20:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

The White Williams album reminds me much more of late 10cc and Bread than of Roxy Music. That bit was like the classic "Let's over-hip our influences" review.

I eat cannibals, Thursday, 1 November 2007 20:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

The description of "a sense of calculated disaffection", a combination of words that makes me imagine the shittiest band of all time, followed by "recommended" was repellant for me.

See, this sounds like the blurb WORKED for you -- i.e., efficiently let you know you would probably not like this act.

I agree, though, it looks kind of weird to have such a neutral-to-disparaging summary blurb on a recommended album.

nabisco, Thursday, 1 November 2007 22:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

I like how they gave the new Babyshambles, which is actually tuneful and a good all around album, a 4.0, but gave the first one, which is dreadful and hard to listen to / bloated, a 7.3,

Yeah, it was definitely TWICE as good as the new one. Fuckin' morons.

Erock Zombie, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

ugh, "impeccable influences" is really repulsive.

Hurting 2, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

(xpost) was that a parody or are you really getting worked up about an internet score for babyshambles

dmr, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

He was worked up?

roxymuzak, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

wait, i thought the grading scale was logarithmic. like 5 is twice as good as 4. somebody email ryan schreiber to find out.

elan, Friday, 2 November 2007 19:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

shit, now i need to reevaluate all my purchases of the last five years.

elan, Friday, 2 November 2007 19:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

It's actually modelled after the Richter Scale, hence the superlative designations of various well-reviewed albums as either "Reccomended," "Best New Music," or "Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On."

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 2 November 2007 19:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

I only mentioned them because they were gigantic and also not on the pfork list

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 August 2017 21:25 (one month ago) Permalink

Some of the most popular music today is stuff like this, at leat in 'mitteleuropa' (which Denmark doesn't really belong to, but a bit):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR1-3gYXsfE

This freaks me out. Shitty versions of fake greek film songs, and all these people lose their shit. But it's functional, it's reliving the dream of the Habsburg Empire. A lot of music is basically functional, and when the function stops being necessary, the music goes out the window.

Frederik B, Thursday, 24 August 2017 21:30 (one month ago) Permalink

Or something like the Pappy O'Daniel Flour Bands that was in O Brother Where Out Thou? Guy made a band to sell flour, became a giant radio star in Texas, turned that into becoming Governor and Senator. But who listens to this stuff anymore?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2RlFA8tSq0

I mean, the Coen version is not this.

Frederik B, Thursday, 24 August 2017 21:33 (one month ago) Permalink

catchy!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 August 2017 21:35 (one month ago) Permalink

andre rieu has loads of adverts for his latest release here in the UK every xmas, he must sell shitloads

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Thursday, 24 August 2017 21:38 (one month ago) Permalink

Pitchfork and the rock crit establishment they represent is falling in relevance and what they choose to remember or ignore for any given time is not really worth a whole lot. Grass Roots LPs will still be around in 20 years, the Pitchfork website most probably not.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 August 2017 21:39 (one month ago) Permalink

catchy!

― Οὖτις, 24. august 2017 23:35 (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, it's kinda good, isn't it? This is from his old band, after he fired them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKKJfBgZOCo

Less bibley.

Frederik B, Thursday, 24 August 2017 21:48 (one month ago) Permalink

. Grass Roots LPs will still be around in 20 years, the Pitchfork website most probably not.

Earth will not.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 August 2017 21:51 (one month ago) Permalink

whether something will be around in 20 years or not isn't a particularly good metric of its usefulness to a discussion, is it? legit q, I'm more sympathetic to "the test of time" than I remain 100% convinced that "relevance" in the sense it's used re: pop culture/music isn't a good or useful idea

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 24 August 2017 21:56 (one month ago) Permalink

*than I used to be, but I remain, etc

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 24 August 2017 21:56 (one month ago) Permalink

my uncle had a radio show in north carolina with stuff like pappy o daniel. had an entire episode devoted acutally. so him i guess xxxp

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 24 August 2017 21:57 (one month ago) Permalink

the test of time remains bad, pay attention only to the test of space

mark s, Thursday, 24 August 2017 21:59 (one month ago) Permalink

i agree w/the test of space, what will the bulbous headed creatures of Kepler 10c listen to when they conquer us?

nomar, Thursday, 24 August 2017 22:09 (one month ago) Permalink

"relevance" in the sense it's used re: pop culture/music isn't a good or useful idea

Totally agree. The question "Relevant to whom?" always seems to be answered "me [the writer] and my friends." This is why I say critics should never use the word "we" (as in, "Why We Love Bruce Springsteen").

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 24 August 2017 22:10 (one month ago) Permalink

guys I only referenced Pfork because this *is a thread about Pfork* not because I am convinced of their significance as universal arbiters of taste or whatever. I was just interested in how certain things that were huge in the 60s are totally absent from their 60s list and why that is, and how it's reflective of larger cultural patterns in terms of what gets memorialized and sort of carried forward to the subsequent generations vs. what gets abandoned.

thought this was p clear but

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 August 2017 22:13 (one month ago) Permalink

kepler 10c smash:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7dgRxpx6XY

it was clear shakey

mark s, Thursday, 24 August 2017 22:14 (one month ago) Permalink

fwiw i don't think its indicative of anything culturally novel and this has always happened in all artforms. often the hugely popular stuff gets forgotten for the game changers nobody appreciated at the time.

also its a different market. if instead of Conde Nast Pitchfork was bought by AARP those Mitch Miller and Andy Williams albums would be at the top

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 August 2017 22:16 (one month ago) Permalink

think you are off-base about whose running AARP these days (hint: baby boomers)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 August 2017 22:31 (one month ago) Permalink

Roll With It and Deja Vu would top their decade lists.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 August 2017 22:35 (one month ago) Permalink

seriously baby boomers love the beatles & joy division, those are the two biggest boomer bands

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 24 August 2017 23:02 (one month ago) Permalink

fwiw i don't think its indicative of anything culturally novel and this has always happened in all artforms. often the hugely popular stuff gets forgotten for the game changers nobody appreciated at the time.

this is not really true re: music imo, really it only applies to the 20th century, ie post-recording technology. Folk music traditions didn't operate that way, for ex.

Having media of the past archived and widely available is relatively novel. Certainly the age we're currently living in, where 80s music can seem as contemporary to the current generation of youth as something released yesterday (something a millenial actually said to me a little while ago btw), is novel.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 August 2017 23:07 (one month ago) Permalink

the associated mass production and mass availability has changed what it means to be popular vs. enduring

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 August 2017 23:08 (one month ago) Permalink

Who likes Roll With It? I'm sure even Winwood prefers Back In The High Life. Winwood also prefers Closer to Unknown Pleasures, but only when he is feeling down.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 August 2017 23:14 (one month ago) Permalink

yes i def got that AARP line wrong. Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen are on the cover these days. i guess i can look forward to reading about Nirvana when i retire.

Folk music traditions didn't operate that way, for ex.

folk traditions are a lot less decentralized and imo less susceptible to list-type rankings. fwiw the whole 60s folk rock explosion was based on reissues of esoteric recordings the Harry Smith Folk Anthology. this was all stuff lost to time that most people hadn't heard of until that point.

the age we're currently living in, where 80s music can seem as contemporary to the current generation of youth as something released yesterday (something a millenial actually said to me a little while ago btw), is novel.

are you saying things from the past feeling similar or in the same spirit as things from the future? i think all art can have that affect to some degree. certainly i have identified with movie characters or characters from a book before. this is part of what music and art is about. true Classics stand the test of time. you cannot rationalize their place on a list, they only answer to time. if people continue to connect to it, even if it is just one person, then the music lives on. album charts and sales are noise in the equation, what matters is longevity. some old songs still have a lot of appeal.

personally i value those 60s recordings even more because they were done live for the most part. they are real performances compared to what we hear coming out today. digital recording has made us lazy. it is easy to punch line, to do a take part-by-part, to copy parts of a song around, to do a million takes without having to wind back the tape. in the 60s everyone had to be able to play through a song for the entire length. there was a basic level of performance comprehension that is no longer required. certainly it is still accessible but as a rule it's easier to computer that shit up. imo something has been fundamentally lost from that mass level of craft.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 August 2017 23:29 (one month ago) Permalink

i think differences in recording technology, like hearing an 80s song then a 90s song, have become less of a deal, since the internet Flood of Information dumped every recording ever on us, plus the democratization of post production software, always-popular retro/nostalgia bands, and sampling, we hear songs from all time periods all the time. it has sort of flattened out the differences for me.

back in the 90s i would hear an 80s song and be like yes that's a song from the 80s, those synths, etc. now, shit, it could be Stranger Things, it could be some song in a commercial for fabric softener with an ironic hair metal pitch character, it could be some 15 year old's soundcloud made entirely playing synth with a computer keyboard. genres, sounds, signifiers, these systems are dissolving away.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 August 2017 23:33 (one month ago) Permalink

is there a spencer davis record that 'should' have made this list?

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 24 August 2017 23:38 (one month ago) Permalink

Venus in Fears is incredible, sonically it's still in its own universe

― flappy bird, Tuesday, August 22, 2017 9:39 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the drone is textbook Theatre of Eternal Music tbh

crüt, Thursday, 24 August 2017 23:51 (one month ago) Permalink

herb alpert circa 79/80 is cool as hell

brimstead, Thursday, 24 August 2017 23:55 (one month ago) Permalink

ah yess "rise", nomar rox

brimstead, Thursday, 24 August 2017 23:56 (one month ago) Permalink

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/da/HA_WhippedCream.jpg

this is all-time

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 August 2017 23:56 (one month ago) Permalink

Herb Alpert's music has already had a revival via balearic et al

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nuAIP08y9A

this is in a dj harvey mix lol

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 25 August 2017 00:01 (one month ago) Permalink

I guess these are more late 70s / early 80s herb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DJK7LJ_0yA

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 25 August 2017 00:01 (one month ago) Permalink

"Rise" of course was sampled by Biggie, the original revival

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 25 August 2017 00:02 (one month ago) Permalink

what i'm saying, 79/80

brimstead, Friday, 25 August 2017 00:02 (one month ago) Permalink

Herb had one of the coolest labels on the planet and i worship it. production and engineering heaven.

Best records ever made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8RcjfWCkIU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK7pJCUNOoo

scott seward, Friday, 25 August 2017 00:11 (one month ago) Permalink

I finished the big spotify list for the 60s albums. Was pretty disappointed at how much is missing from Spotify. If you come across anything that I missed, please let me know.

https://open.spotify.com/user/olken2000/playlist/1Nxra6HVBVSDVzN86eUdmZ

Moodles, Friday, 25 August 2017 01:54 (one month ago) Permalink

Spotify sucks fyi

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 August 2017 01:58 (one month ago) Permalink

I use what I got

Moodles, Friday, 25 August 2017 02:00 (one month ago) Permalink

Perhaps the gentleman dissatisfied with Spotify could create the 60s playlist in their streaming service of choice, which by implication doesn't suck. If there's something better than Spotify, I'd like to know. It can't be Apple Music or Tidal. Wonder what else is out there.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 25 August 2017 02:14 (one month ago) Permalink

apple music is better than spotify imo. sound quality on spotify is garbage.

flappy bird, Friday, 25 August 2017 18:13 (one month ago) Permalink

Streaming services suck imo

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 August 2017 18:21 (one month ago) Permalink

hot take alert

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 25 August 2017 18:28 (one month ago) Permalink

hey not to change the subject but i have to acknowledge Meaghan Garvey's great piece on the new Taylor Swift song:

Ultimately, there is something undeniably sus in Swift’s petty glee at dragging a mostly-forgotten beef into a dramatic album rollout a year later, despite still not having found the time to address any of 2017’s more urgent sociopolitical issues to her 85.4 million Twitter followers. Mostly, “Look What You Made Me Do” feels like a sad and, one would imagine, ultimately successful, attempt to inoculate herself from any real criticism, as though even the most valid attempts would’ve made a dent in her Teflon brand.

flappy bird, Friday, 25 August 2017 18:31 (one month ago) Permalink

further to the talk upthread

Andre Rieu was named the biggest international classical artist, with nearly 2.3 million album sales - and 11 albums in the chart in total, the most of any artist.

He said: "Ever since Forever Vienna became my first UK number one album eight years ago, the support from the British public has been incredible. I could not ask for more enthusiastic and loyal fans."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-41076483

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 10:50 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Guess I missed the A&M discussion, but I have spent a lot of time trying to find more records that sound like Chris Montez' A&M work.

campreverb, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 16:11 (four weeks ago) Permalink

What was the scuttlebutt earlier in the thread about Pitchfork contorting themselves into bizarre shapes to cover something other than music
https://pitchfork.com/news/netflix-acquires-documentary-about-jim-carreys-intense-andy-kaufman-method-acting/

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Monday, 11 September 2017 23:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink

There's not even a perfunctory embedded video of the REM song

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Monday, 11 September 2017 23:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i'm sure there is pressure from conde for them to cover more stuff that has potential to hit big. music is the worst seemingly major vertical to translate to online

maura, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 03:50 (two weeks ago) Permalink

You guys seem to be one of the progenitors of a growing trend of corporate patronage, with brands like Converse, Red Bull, and even Sour Patch Kids offering logistical and financial support to artists with various conditions.

...

The idea of “selling out” might be almost obsolete, but even so, no one seems to levy such accusations at Adult Swim, despite the corporate overlords.

great questions
https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/meet-jason-demarco-the-reason-adult-swims-music-is-so-good-interview/?mbid=homepage-more-latest-and-video

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 September 2017 06:48 (five days ago) Permalink

not that anyone has a problem with something, but even if they did, you're not part of the problem anyway, right?

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 September 2017 06:49 (five days ago) Permalink


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