pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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Oh my God, what just happened at P-Fork
Mon Apr 1 07:08:25 2002
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I'm not going to spew any elitist bullshit, but Alanis Morrissette, Kylie Minogue? Oh my fucking God. I'll stay for a little while to see if P-Fork still serves my needs, but with today's front page, I'm not counting on it. I understand the career move, but I just don't think it's going to serve me any more.

jess, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

stu Re: Oh my God, what just happened at P-Fork Mon Apr 1 07:41:08 2002 65.92.243.96

I wonder if it's going to serve anyone's needs. I don't think a web- only publication can attract readers interested in Alanis Morissette and Kylie Minogue. To my knowledge, no one actually hunts down information about such artists. People just hear about it on tv and that's it. Let's give Pitchfork a few months, until the corporate contributors pull the plug.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I am very disappointed. Could they have made it any more obvious? COME ON, PEOPLE.

David Raposa, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think a web- only publication can attract readers interested in Alanis Morissette and Kylie Minogue.

QUOTE OF THE YEAR.

jess, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

What makes me think that things will be back to normal by tomorrow? ;)

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know Sean... it would be April 2nd, which would make it one day after...

Andy K, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

You scalawags, you make me laff. Perhaps.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Speaking of which, HEY NED! My Bloody Valentine are finally releasing their new album!

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

We thought about that as one of the news items.

Dare, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"i for one will not be returning to this site if you're seriously going to be reviewing alanis. like i can't read that shit everywhere and anywhere? the reason i had pitchfork as my home page was because i could actually find out about the shit i care about. i'm glad you can pay your rent now, it's too bad that you sold out your millions of readers for britney fans in body glitter to do it."

Dare, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

pitchfork as your homepage, classic or dud?

the first thing i thought (after, well, this is no all cure all the time) was that i wished they really had "sold out" (what the fuck, is this 93?), because maybe it would mean LESS GODDAMN PROG.

jess, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

he's calling you out, leone. FITE!

Todd Burns, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I'd rather read about Alanis and Kylie than most of the stuff they normally review.

Sean, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Their funniest joke came months ago.

Nicole, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know what all you fools are talking about... I only WISH all of it were true.

Well, the Albini thing practically is...

mr. sparkle, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

We thought about that as one of the news items.

Makes sense, really.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know what all you fools are talking about... I only WISH all of it were true.

Well, the Albini thing practically is... huh???

Brock K., Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

LESS GODDAMN PROG

So, does that mean we'll write about the next Radiohead album, or not?

dleone, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

And that Flaming Lips thing actually is true. I think.

powertonevolume, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Hein? Is the joke that Pitchfork reviewed some pop musik?? Even their KYLIE review was as dull as www.defra.gov.uk/farm/sustain/default.htm ARRRGHHHHHHHHH!! Then again Pitchfork = dull is a big shocker along the lines of Nelson in COLUMN!!!!!! shocker.

Sarah, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

'On' column? 'HAS' column?! I can see him from my bladdy window but does that help my BRANE I think NICHT.

Sarah, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Dom, how much of the Kylie review was farce? "The song exudes a catchiness that belies its inherent simplicity, so reassuring during an era when chart acts sound increasingly baroque and producers race to see who can ape electronic music trends first" sounds at least semi-serious.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

that is because kylie is, like sophie ellis bextor, going for a retro- mancuso/levan vibe, with all the classicism inherent in such an endeavour.

gareth, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, I did try to write about that record in the same way I would have for anything else at Pitchfork. I thought the gag would be better if people really thought we were changing styles, and Spin may be full of ads, but at least the reviews aren't jokes! As far as I know, anyway. Dullness wasn't intentional though.

dleone, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

best e-mail address ever, eh starbar?

dudley, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Dead right sir. Power shandies all round to the geezer behind it eh?

Sarah, Wednesday, 3 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

From: DWilliams@EQRWORLD.com Subject: NO, Just Admit You Like It Up There

You have completed your learning of life's lessons. Now, you suck ass just like all the other bores before you. Kylie, Alanis? Whatever, bitch. I am sure you already have the defense mechanisms in place so, this will mean nothing but, another exercise in...oh, who cares. Looking elsewhere for reality...or maybe I can pretend to be a rubber worm like pitchwhore.com...here big fishie, look, I rounded 'em up for you in a arrel. A whole demographic!

Not Funny

Dare, Thursday, 4 April 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

five years pass...

Y'know sometimes they really are asking for it:

"White Williams issues a debut album layered with impeccable influences-- including Roxy Music, Beck, and T. Rex-- and a sense of calculated disaffection."

Well shit SIGN ME UP.

lukas, Thursday, 1 November 2007 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, that was a bit of a repellant blurb if I ever saw one.

Z S, Thursday, 1 November 2007 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Wait, are you saying that doesn't seem accurate?

nabisco, Thursday, 1 November 2007 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I read 'White' as 'While' and thought "The Saul Williams album sounds like that?"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 November 2007 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

it's more that they used that as their _hook_

x-post

lukas, Thursday, 1 November 2007 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

The front blurbs are always stripped/condensed summary descriptions from the review inside -- in this case

His songs are thin and languorous, with impeccable influences and the sort of calculated disaffection that comes from an MFA in design and a good weed connection.

nabisco, Thursday, 1 November 2007 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

omg that is horrorshow

The blurb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the article quote

HI DERE, Thursday, 1 November 2007 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I assume that's an article quote; nabisco, if you just made that up then SHAME ON YOU.

HI DERE, Thursday, 1 November 2007 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

why would a critic ever try to guess where a song comes from?

Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 November 2007 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm more bothered by beck as impeccable influence

dmr, Thursday, 1 November 2007 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Wait, are you saying that doesn't seem accurate?

The description of "a sense of calculated disaffection", a combination of words that makes me imagine the shittiest band of all time, followed by "recommended" was repellant for me. I guess I like my disaffection to be natural, not carefully planned, so I would never recommend something like that.

Then again, I've never heard it so what do I know and so on.

Z S, Thursday, 1 November 2007 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

b-but someone at pfork said "hm, how can we get people to read this review? I know! we'll mention the artist's impeccable influences and calculated disaffection! that'll reel 'em in!"

RIP satire etc

lukas, Thursday, 1 November 2007 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

they could have collaged+mis-used _anything_ from the article, and they collaged+mis-used that

lukas, Thursday, 1 November 2007 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

The White Williams album reminds me much more of late 10cc and Bread than of Roxy Music. That bit was like the classic "Let's over-hip our influences" review.

I eat cannibals, Thursday, 1 November 2007 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

The description of "a sense of calculated disaffection", a combination of words that makes me imagine the shittiest band of all time, followed by "recommended" was repellant for me.

See, this sounds like the blurb WORKED for you -- i.e., efficiently let you know you would probably not like this act.

I agree, though, it looks kind of weird to have such a neutral-to-disparaging summary blurb on a recommended album.

nabisco, Thursday, 1 November 2007 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I like how they gave the new Babyshambles, which is actually tuneful and a good all around album, a 4.0, but gave the first one, which is dreadful and hard to listen to / bloated, a 7.3,

Yeah, it was definitely TWICE as good as the new one. Fuckin' morons.

Erock Zombie, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

ugh, "impeccable influences" is really repulsive.

Hurting 2, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

(xpost) was that a parody or are you really getting worked up about an internet score for babyshambles

dmr, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

He was worked up?

roxymuzak, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

wait, i thought the grading scale was logarithmic. like 5 is twice as good as 4. somebody email ryan schreiber to find out.

elan, Friday, 2 November 2007 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

shit, now i need to reevaluate all my purchases of the last five years.

elan, Friday, 2 November 2007 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

It's actually modelled after the Richter Scale, hence the superlative designations of various well-reviewed albums as either "Reccomended," "Best New Music," or "Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On."

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 2 November 2007 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

hyperbolic love of pop music & being corny about it are signs of being an earnest young person who is new to criticism

Then what's ILM's excuse?

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:48 (four days ago) link

name names

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:49 (four days ago) link

Yeah, P4k’s slide to the Bieberverse is probably just a general shifting taste of young critics + now having someone to answer to wrt traffic goals + the fact that there’s like ~zero other places that do dedicated longform reviews so why tf not.

It’s not as sexy as a viral tweet or CONDE CONSPIRACY but what can you do

bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:50 (four days ago) link

"Underneath the ill-advised MLK quotes, you’ll find an earnest pop album that unearths the charisma and agility that helped make Bieber a star."

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:52 (four days ago) link

If you guys are curious to dig into what I'm talking about, I genuinely think the origins of the terms of this conflict can be found in this thread. See arguments from Mark K Punk, Simon, and Tim F, Woebot, others: https://www.dissensus.com/index.php?threads/1143/

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:52 (four days ago) link

"Underneath the ill-advised MLK quotes, you’ll find an earnest pop album that unearths the charisma and agility that helped make Bieber a star."

― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Tuesday, June 15, 2021 3:52 PM (eighteen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

7.2 ... so hyperbolic

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:52 (four days ago) link

thank you for pointing me towards this review because it is hilarious

Bieber is not a powerhouse vocalist, but he is a compelling one, casually dropping in a stray yodel here, a Mariah Carey-indebted set of runs there. His voice has a palatable smoothness; he’s mastered push-and-pull dynamics, and he swings effortlessly from a placid chest voice to a zephyr of a falsetto. That litheness and control are on full display across Justice. Even when the songwriting is spiritless and the production rote—and it occasionally is, as on the confessional “Unstable” and the saccharine “Deserve You”—he still sings the hell out of it.

his voice ranges from placid to wispy, I cannot argue with this

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:58 (four days ago) link

"casually dropping in a stray yodel here" is also killing me, like does he just go full Lonely Goatherd in the middle of a slow jam

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:00 (four days ago) link

"Underneath the ill-advised MLK quotes, you’ll find an earnest pop album that unearths the charisma and agility that helped make Bieber a star."

― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Tuesday, June 15, 2021 3:52 PM (eighteen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

7.2 ... so hyperbolic

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, June 15, 2021 3:52 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh i wasn't commenting on the rating, i just thought that quote was funny

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:00 (four days ago) link

but isn't it true the writers don't determine the actual score

kidding, kidding

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:01 (four days ago) link

hyperbolic love of pop music & being corny about it are signs of being an earnest young person who is new to criticism, not signs of corporate strategy imo. there's some overlap there, but the objections are aesthetic pretending to be ideological, imo

completely otm

Then what's ILM's excuse?

there's obviously a difference between a message board & actual published music criticism

ufo, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:03 (four days ago) link

that's right, ilm's where all the money's at

#paymentforposts

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:07 (four days ago) link

like just personally I find the conspiracy theorizing very fucking weird since I started writing for them in 2012, I had almost entirely written about pop music, and that was pre-conde

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:07 (four days ago) link

i think the other thing that rankles about the original tweet is that pure poptimist pop is really at a low ebb commercially right now... olivia rodrigo & doja cat are basically the only two breakout pop stars of the last year and a half, and pitchfork barely covers them, at least from a critical POV. what's driving authentic rock music down and off the review pages is moneybagg yo, lil durk, lil baby, rod wave, polo g etc ... not exactly rich white girls on pills. and of course, pitchfork is actually ambivalent about much of that music as well despite its immense power in the marketplace, while on a daily basis putting its critical weight behind tons of underground rap music that is more artistically pure than the above artists and which would never get any coverage elsewhere. pitchfork was the first/only critical outlet to write about i.e. capella grey "gyalis" which is a great independent song w/ a localized fan base, but of course red scare hangers on have no idea what that song is. so really what you have is culturally out of touch ppl RTing themselves to explain why they don't ideologically align w/ a culture that they don't, in reality, understand

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:07 (four days ago) link

xp -- to be fair I think what people are reacting to are year end lists which do tend to skew more pop. like someone posted a screenshot of the WAP writeup

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:11 (four days ago) link

this is the problem ofc ... people think if you're criticizing The Bad Tweet you're defending Pitchfork

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:16 (four days ago) link

xps eh dua lipa has been a huge success lately both commercially & critically (though of course p4k hasn't been that on board) but i get the broader point

but yeah the problem is the twitter op etc. don't understand shit at all on top of the lazy purely reactionary rockism

ufo, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:18 (four days ago) link

this latest poptimism fuss having started from Red Scare should be deeply embarrassing for us all

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:19 (four days ago) link

xpost - re: Dua Lipa, most artists would kill to be ignored like this

https://pitchfork.com/search/?query=dua%20lipa

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:20 (four days ago) link

It’s hilarious to think of some nerd Walkman fan triggered by the Pitchfork tweet and visits the site for the first time in 8 years and then trying to figure this out

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/rxk-nephew-slitherman-activated/

bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:22 (four days ago) link

xp p4k covers any pop star these days that has any sort of 'cred' at all

what i meant is they were cooler on the album than a lot of places, didn't give it the fabled bnm etc. when it was quite a critical darling elsewhere

ufo, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:24 (four days ago) link

It’s hilarious to think of some nerd Walkman fan triggered by the Pitchfork tweet and visits the site for the first time in 8 years and then trying to figure this out

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/rxk-nephew-slitherman-activated/

― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, June 15, 2021 4:22 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i mean, its a pan, and ian cohen likes it ... not too different from cam'ron era really

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:28 (four days ago) link

xpost - re: Dua Lipa, most artists would kill to be ignored like this

https://pitchfork.com/search/?query=dua%20lipa

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, June 15, 2021 4:20 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

She had one of the biggest albums in the world and it wasn't reviewed, though they did review the follow-up and its pfork-baiting project of club remixes with like, theo parrish on it. She had some stuff on year end lists bc some hits are always on year end lists. pretty modest treatment again imo

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:29 (four days ago) link

not defending pitchfork -- just arguing that these broad characterizations of its pop coverage are misleading

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:30 (four days ago) link

she could've gotten a review if only she'd included some ill-advised mlk quotes

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:30 (four days ago) link

well, pitchfork covers pop stars heavily when it comes to news bcuz news is what drives traffic on a daily basis and you can't employ 50+ ppl at living wages by posting updates on indie rock music. simply put, it's not feasible. the incentive structure as it pertains to that part of the site is pretty clear and unavoidable. but is that what bothers ppl? the news coverage? maybe it is idk. bcuz as many ppl have pointed out on a critical level what the site gets behind has, if anything, retreated further back towards indie rock, outsider type music and away from poptimism

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:32 (four days ago) link

variables:

a) as mentioned there is an impending conde nast strike
b) there just was a global pandemic that shut down the global economy
c) stan backlash has gotten a lot worse than it was in 2015 so writers may be more hesitant to jump on big pop albums, many writers (who aren't me) have explicitly said this was a factor in declining to write about certain pop albums
d) pop music has kind of diffused into 50 million tiktok kids who may not have "albums" to review
e) did I mention there was a global pandemic

I really, really would not draw very many conclusions about editorial strategy from 2020-21

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:44 (four days ago) link

xp as you already basically pointed out it's people who aren't really paying attention at all to any of this stuff & as katherine suggested it's probably mostly in reaction to the year end lists etc. mostly because they're what seems to get the most wider traction and has the most people quoting goofy blurbs etc. to mock on twitter

ufo, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:47 (four days ago) link

c) stan backlash has gotten a lot worse than it was in 2015 so writers may be more hesitant to jump on big pop albums, many writers (who aren't me) have explicitly said this was a factor in declining to write about certain pop albums

oof this didn't occur to me but of course, not worth the hassle

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:49 (four days ago) link

some kneejerk p4k criticisms also basically boil down to "people shouldn't use fancy words to talk about music"

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:50 (four days ago) link

several house legends on that Dua Lipa remix project (Mr Fingers, Masters at Work, Moodymann) but Parrish wasn’t among them

xps

ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:51 (four days ago) link

yea philistinism getting traction on twitter is no big surprise, i just think its important to observe there are communities where its been -- to be funny -- manufactured a bit

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:52 (four days ago) link

several house legends on that Dua Lipa remix project (Mr Fingers, Masters at Work, Moodymann) but Parrish wasn’t among them

xps

― ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Tuesday, June 15, 2021 4:51 PM (forty-one seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

xp my bad yea ... i think i was probably remembering wishing he was lol

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:52 (four days ago) link

xps Fisher is a extremely popular among the edgelord podcast crowd for other work so it wouldn't surprise me if they've inherited his boring views on music as well

Left, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 00:20 (three days ago) link

i'm sure it's a half-assed regurgitation of his views as well instead of having any thought put into it at all

ufo, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 00:23 (three days ago) link

well obviously

Left, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 00:34 (three days ago) link

deej otm

it’s not just ppl who listen to podcasts either, i remember a tweet a while back by OP of this thread saying like ‘poptimism was a mistake other than for the 18 months where timbaland wikki-wikki beats and neptunes were on the charts and that was only good bc it was referencing experimental music’.

poptimism 1.0 won the battle but lost the war

flopson, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 06:35 (three days ago) link

Also the six weeks when "My Sharona" was #1

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 12:39 (three days ago) link

would love to meet a guy who's a poptimist but only for the one week period where def lep's "love bites!" was number one

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 14:13 (three days ago) link

isn't that just diamond joe biden

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 15:53 (three days ago) link

i missed this article from March but I think the cultural nu-Vice hipster zeitgeist around podcast left / anti-poptimism / et al cultural moment https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/07/business/media/the-drunken-canal-media-nyc.html

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 19:16 (three days ago) link

combine this w the mark fisher thing we talked about upthread ... poptimism was for many ppl a trend after the nerds took over being into cool underground music. .. now it goes the other way etc

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 19:17 (three days ago) link

wish i hadn't read that article and learned that one of the red scare hosts is going to be in season 3 of succession :(

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 19:26 (three days ago) link

wau and lol @ that Drunken Canal story.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 19:27 (three days ago) link

great news!

pitchfork is unionized (#1 in a series.)

.@p4kunion, @newyorkerunion, and @ars_union are thrilled to announce that after 2-and-a-half years of negotiations with @CondeNast, we have reached an agreement in principle on our first contracts and averted a strike.🎇Here are some of our wins: (1/9)

— Pitchfork Union (@p4kunion) June 16, 2021

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 22:05 (three days ago) link

starting to think the pitchfork is poptimist tweet was an anti-union psyop...

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 22:42 (three days ago) link

oh hey the wolf alice review finally arrived and it mostly sucks lol

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 17 June 2021 14:26 (two days ago) link

been a while since I've seen a review tie itself in knots explaining its critical position quite this much

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 17 June 2021 14:29 (two days ago) link

Ian Cohen shitty review shocka

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 17 June 2021 15:04 (two days ago) link


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