The Tragically Hip: Classic or Dud? Search and Destroy

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The radio's playing "At the Hundredth Meridian" right now. At least everyone in Canada must have an opinion on these guys so it's about time they got their own thread. I'll say that if nothing else, the first couple big singles were worth salvaging: from when they sounded sort of like a 60s rock band (which was actually refreshing at the time) -- "Blow At High Dough" and "New Orleans Is Sinking" (The Doors with a sense of humour). "Fifty-Mission Cap" was OK too.

Destroy: "Wheat Kings" (Along with the entire Fumbling Towards Ecstasy album, girls would always sing along to this at parties in the mid-90s. Some of the teachers at my high school had a classic rock cover band that would play at assemblies. They always played this song.), "Ahead By a Century", "At the Hundredth Meridian". I'm not sure where "38 Years Old" should go.

sundar subramanian, Saturday, 30 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'm not sure I'd say all-around classic. I didn't mind those same two first big singles, but I remember when Road Apples came out hating the lyrics of "Little Bones" for being so damn dumb. I actually really started to like the Hip when everyone else started to feel lost: Day For Night, while the production was utter sludge, had an atmosphere to it that was really starting to reel me in, and I actually liked Trouble at the Henhouse quite a bit (everyone else I knew in our record store chain referred to it as "Trouble at the Hiphouse" because it was selling so badly compared to projections).

Search: "Grace, Too", "Ahead by a Century", "Flamenco", "Bobcaygeon", their willingness to give exposure to deserving bands like the Rheostatics and Eric's Trip
Destroy: "Little Bones", most of their fans

Sean Carruthers, Saturday, 30 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Was "Little Bones" the faster one that goes "$2.50 for a highball and a buck and a half a beer/Help me out, help me out, help me out of here"? I think I'm OK with that one. Which one goes "Fingers and toes/fingers and toes/40 things we share/41 if you include the fact that we don't care"? Was that "Dust & Bones"? I'm not as big on that one.

sundar subramanian, Sunday, 31 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

OK, I looked it up. It's "Happy hour is here" not "Help me out. . ." While I was looking over a list of songs and lyrics, I realized I have a buried antipathy to the band I can't really put a finger on. Like, why does thinking about "Courage" give me the creeps?

sundar subramanian, Sunday, 31 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Classic, but a jaded one at that. Their important for being the only good through and through Cancon hereos. Its try that their fans must be destroyed, easiest way to do that is to put them in a room with tons of overly obsesive GYBE fans, matter antimatter reaction will produce lots of minidisks of dave mathews. They also have great cross country tours, specially when you compare them with the ones IME/OLP and crew try. Taking the time to angrily scold their fans when they tried to shout out Daniel Lanois or The Rheostatics. My only complaint is outside of Day For Night, you can instantly recognize a Tragically Hip song. Also an utter classic for the KillerWhaleTank rant.
Search: Day For Night. The only Tragically Hip that really stands out from the rest. Muddy as hell but the whole album is dark and projects a very nice atmosphere. Two of my favorite singles come from this, Thugs and Grace Too. Phantom Power isnt half bad. Fireworks is the best song they'd done in years. Fully Completely is probably the collector album for those who need just one album by them. Locked In A Trunk Of A Car is a bit shocking coming from them. Im all for 100th Meridian if just for his rant about Ry Cooder. The song that rubs me the wrong way on that album, aside from the obvious Wheat Kings, is Courage. Another Classic is 38 Years Old only if the story someone told me about it being about Milgaard is true.
Destroy:Trouble at the Shithouse. All the other albums I can think of at least something to save them.

Mr Noodles, Sunday, 31 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Im just thinking they could put out a really good Greatest Hits album. Outside of Sloan I think their the only ones who could do it.

Damm now I feel like reviving that Sloan thread. mmmmm Sloan.

Mr Noodles, Sunday, 31 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Awww, Trouble at the Hiphouse ain't that bad. I'm not sure why they fill your with antipathy, Sundar, though I have to admit that listening to Fully Completely unnerves me somewhat, but that's mostly because of the production. (It's the only album of theirs that just sounds wrong, too dry perhaps, too sterile. Even though I come from the land of the 100th meridian, there's very little about that album to which I can relate.)

Sean Carruthers, Sunday, 31 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I like Flamenco quite a bit. Back in the day when it was getting heavy rotation on CFNY, my clock radio would sometimes come on in the morning to it's gentle lilt and instead of leaping out of bed and irritably whomping the sleep button (as I would've if it'd been STP or something) - I could just lie in bed and let it do it's subtle coaxing, waking me up slowly. Those were always the best mornings.

Kim, Sunday, 31 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

So anyone care to comment on Music @ Work or the apropriately titled solo album from Gord?

Mr Noodles, Sunday, 31 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i would always be amazed that the tragically hip could sell out places in detroit like jou louis arena, were there 20000 canadians that filed across the border from widnsor to see their countrymen? because once you move away from the border and the canadian content rule tragically hip have no status at all. 'ahead by a century' is a pleasant enough single but everything else i have heard smacks of earnest rawk on par with people jeff healy which means rather dreadful. they are probably better than sloan though.

keith, Sunday, 31 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

once you move away from the border and the canadian content rule tragically hip have no status at all

Ain't that the truth. But more than the content rule it really is the border deal. Thus, the Hip aren't worth spit here near LA, but as you might imagine tons of bands from Mexico and all over Central and South America can sell out arenas without even trying.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 31 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

They are shit and Gordon Dowqnie is a fatous old man ,

anthony, Sunday, 31 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Good Olde Cancon which I mentioned elsewhere.

Though I wont bite on the Sloan troll sorry.

forgot one more destory: How much they are played on the radio. There is a saturation point and the hip are well past it. Retro, AOR, alt.rawk, life crisis "Mix" stations and lowIQ Network all have 3 or 4 songs in rotation at once it seems.

Mr Noodles, Sunday, 31 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Doesn't anyone like "Phantom Power" ????

I thought that was a pretty darned good album. The lyrics to "Fireworks" are priceless and "Something On"--the ode to Ice Storm '98--is wick.

cybele, Sunday, 31 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Phantom Power was okay, their last gasp of groovy goodness. Music @ Work was something I heard on a listening station, shuddered, and switched off. As for Gordo's solo album, I'm not sure what you're getting at when you say it's appropriately titled...

Sean Carruthers, Sunday, 31 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Maybe it's just me, but the Tragically Hip always struck me as being the Canadian version of Live. There might be a couple of good tunes in there somewhere, but I don't want to bother wading through all their damn sanctimoniousness.

Chris Barrus, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

So anyone care to comment on Music @ Work or the apropriately titled solo album from Gord?

Music@Work's all right - I liked "Stay" something much. Day For Night's probably their best: "Grace, Too" is terrific, and the lyrics to "Nautical Disaster" are unmatched... "Fireworks", off Phantom Power, is happenin'...

Gordon Downie's solo album, Coke Machine Glow is terrific. Spans genres, with touches of Hayden-like acoustic folk, Clive Holden-evoking spoken-word, and even a brush of bluegrass. The track "Chancellor" is fan-fuckin-tastic, and "Vancouver Divorce" ain't half-bad either.

Sean, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Sean
leave Canada now before you admit to liking Nickelback .

anthony, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Always thought "Wheat Kings" was the one about Milgaard, not "38 Years Old".

Whaddya know.

Smith6079, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i will also agree that 'day for night' is the only hip album worth seeking out. it kind of strays from that tired blues/rock formula that they've done to death. people are saying the production is muddy but i think its actually quite ethereal, definitely the most psychedelic and 'head' of the hip albums. it's true, there are a couple of good moments on phantom power though (and any recording engineer loves the title).

i only heard part of gord downie's solo album but i found it really, really good. it's a very modest, unassuming record production-wise. but the way he plays that cheap sounding acoustic guitar is fantastic. it's not encumbered by the pointlessness of the four other members of the hip.

fields of salmon, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

people are saying the production is muddy but i think its actually quite ethereal
True story: back in my previous life I was a record store manager, and looked after a few other stores; on the day that Day For Night was scheduled to be released, I was in Saskatoon at our store there, and we decided to do a midnight launch for the album. So, we're getting prepared for the thing, nice little Hip display halfway back in the store, preparing a Path of Least Resistance to allow rabid fans to circle the store without tripping over each other, and then head to the cash register. About 11:55pm we cracked our copy of the album and plugged it into the stereo system. 11:59pm, we hit play and turned the stereo up to attract attention, then opened the doors. Almost immediately, our speakers started clipping (following the quiet intro), and you couldn't make out anything at all until you turned it almost all the way down...and this was a reasonably good system, with good speakers--we cranked albums all the time. So, there we are standing in a room filled with people who are looking up, wondering "Do I reaaaaaaally want to buy this? It sounds like SHIT!" as we scrambled for the volume control. First Hip album that didn't sound good loud without serious EQ adjustments. I wouldn't call it "ethereal" by an stretch of the imagination, myself...atmospheric yes. But I still think it's damn muddy production.

definitely the most psychedelic and 'head' of the hip albums.
No argument there, my friend.

Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

four years pass...
classic.

you are all crazy: my favourite album is "music @ work". wonderfully dark moodiness. the second half of the album is very spooky and intimidating, capped off by the absolutely goregous 'as i wind down the pines.'

derrick (derrick), Sunday, 10 September 2006 01:54 (twelve years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

After hearing "Fifty Mission Cap" a couple of times on a long road trip, I've decided that I've held out too long. I need to finally start giving this band's full albums a chance. How loaded with hits is Fully Completely? Also, how crazy is it that it's 17 years old?

Sundar, Thursday, 13 August 2009 17:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

Did they ever record the "Limelight" cover BTW?

Sundar, Thursday, 13 August 2009 17:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

Hm, Music @ Work is really good.

Sundar, Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

Had a live album years ago, didn't do much for me aside from "Courage" which was outstanding, though I prefer the cover version from the "The Sweet Hereafter".

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 13 August 2009 22:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

I have also been thinking that it's about time that I finally buy some Tragically Hip albums (decision unrelated to road tripping). I think there's some kind of unwritten rule where every Canadian living abroad must own "Fully Completely" (I have never owned it!)

"Music At Work", the song, is surely their most underrated single? And Sundar, how can you hate on "Wheat Kings"?

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 13 August 2009 22:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

I like it a lot more than I did 7 years ago!

Sundar, Thursday, 13 August 2009 22:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

Every single time I hear the line "It's not the band I hate, it's their fans" from Sloan's "Coax Me", I think of these guys.

King of Snake (j-rock), Friday, 14 August 2009 04:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

Fully Completely has the hits but I think Music @ Work is much more creative and interesting musically. I downloaded Day for Night as well but I'm not sure what I think. "Nautical Disaster" is classic though. I should probably check out Phantom Power next.

Sundar, Friday, 14 August 2009 13:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

phantom power is their best imo

Every single time I hear the line "It's not the band I hate, it's their fans" from Sloan's "Coax Me", I think of these guys.

really? in my experience theyre a group almost everyone can agree on to at least some extent but no one ever gets obsessive about because it feels like theyve always just existed as a fact of life if you grew up in canada over the last 30 yrs or so.

rent, Friday, 14 August 2009 14:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Fifty Mission Cap" really annoys me lyrically, because there aren't any lyrics, just words. It's as if Downie wrote the song for the sole purpose of retelling the Bill Barilko legend, and didn't bother to put anything personal or poetic or vivid into what amounts to a mere anecdote. Unless I'm missing the big picture and it's a metaphor for something-or-other (quite possible.)

Myonga Vön Bontee, Friday, 14 August 2009 15:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

Ha, I just learned what a "fifty mission cap" is from the Wikipedia page. I think this might actually weaken the song a little for me. I'd assumed it was just a term for a cheap hat from the Salvation Army or something that a kid who was obsessed about hockey might wear. I thought it was a song about a kid learning a piece of history from a hockey card. So it's actually about a WWII vet who learned the story from a hockey card even though he was probably in his 30s-40s during the time period in question?

Sundar, Friday, 14 August 2009 15:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

I mean, I think the lyrics work OK with the music.

Sundar, Friday, 14 August 2009 15:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

Just heard the new Gord Downie single on Radio 2. It's nice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETUZ9Dhe_UI

Sundar, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 22:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

Hm, streamed the whole album on his website. I like it. Surprising extended instrumental passage on "Broadcast".

Sundar, Thursday, 3 June 2010 00:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

Does anyone who's not Canadian give half a cardboard shit for these guys?

(Full disclosure: I'm canadian and I have ambiguous feelings 'bout them; the above is a serious question)

a reprehensible gentility of trouser (staggerlee), Thursday, 3 June 2010 04:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

i'm canadian as well, and aside from the singles, i really cant' say i care much about them.

borntohula, Thursday, 3 June 2010 04:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

They're popular in Buffalo.

Sundar, Thursday, 3 June 2010 04:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

holds up hand

I'm British and I like them. Mind you, when I saw them play in London a few years ago I felt like I was the only British person in the audience.

anagram, Thursday, 3 June 2010 06:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

Probably a bunch of beefy thirtysomething dudes with sports shirts on screaming "WOOOOOOOOOO! FUCKIN A!" making up the Canuck contingent, yes?

I find this interesting. Anagram, if you don't mind playing 6 questions:

How did you first hear them, what was the first album (&/or singles) you heard from them, and can you articulate their appeal to you?

a reprehensible gentility of trouser (staggerlee), Friday, 4 June 2010 02:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well I'm hardly an expert on their back catalogue, there are just a few songs I've heard of theirs that I really like. And of course I didn't discover them for myself, there was a Canadian involved – a girlfriend who made me a mix CD which included "Bobcaygeon". I treasure that song, it has this beautifully loose, loping quality which I love and the lyric kind of moves me in a strange way as well. So then I got the album it came from, Phantom Power, and the other standout track on that was "Fireworks" which I think is a blazingly powerful song. The only other album of theirs I have is Fully Completely and off of that one I adore "Wheat Kings" for its forlorn acoustic guitar and the note of bruised longing in the guy's voice.

Am I the only person who hears a resemblance to REM, especially Document-era? The first time I heard Downie's voice I thought I was listening to Stipe, they sound so similar. The lyrics may not be as enigmatic but (especially on a song like "Fireworks") they share this tumbling wordiness that I like. And there's a crunchiness, a kind of swagger to a lot of Hip songs that puts me in mind of REM sometimes.

anagram, Friday, 4 June 2010 09:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

Probably a bunch of beefy thirtysomething dudes with sports shirts on screaming "WOOOOOOOOOO! FUCKIN A!" making up the Canuck contingent, yes?
from what i've seen, yes. but it's always fun to yell "play some fuckin' hip" at a show.

borntohula, Friday, 4 June 2010 20:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

They do sound a lot like REM.

Sundar, Sunday, 6 June 2010 21:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Does anyone who's not Canadian give half a cardboard shit for these guys?

(Full disclosure: I'm canadian and I have ambiguous feelings 'bout them; the above is a serious question)

My husband is a really big fan.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Monday, 7 June 2010 17:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

new hip record coming out october 2nd, now for plan a

http://www.thehip.com/images/TTH-NFPA-CVR_500.jpg

01. At Transformation
02. Man Machine Poem
03. The Lookahead
04. We Want To Be It
05. Streets Ahead
06. Now For Plan A
07. The Modern Spirit
08. About This Map
09. Take Forever
10. Done And Done
11. Goodnight Attawapiskat

first two singles are bangin':

http://soundcloud.com/the-tragically-hip/streets-ahead

http://soundcloud.com/the-tragically-hip/at-transformation

also i love that last downie solo record. hope abandoning bob rock to his toys has done them good

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:46 (six years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Listening to Road Apples for the first time in a while. They really perfected that Athens-not-Athens sound for a while, yet I feel like a tourist when I'm listening to them. They definitely have US fans, but they should've had many more.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 18:58 (four years ago) Permalink

downie is my favorite lyricist

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 19:00 (four years ago) Permalink

I've never paid close attention, but phrases definitely jump out at me from time to time.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 19:07 (four years ago) Permalink

well for instance in "at the hundredth meridian"

a raven strains along the line of the road
carrying muddy old skull
the wires whistle their approval
off down the distance.

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 19:27 (four years ago) Permalink

god i am so crushed

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 14:58 (one year ago) Permalink

Good story on the new album:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/18/arts/music/gord-downie-tragically-hip-dead-final-album.html

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 15:51 (one year ago) Permalink

It's amazing how much great music this man managed to make, in this last phase of his life. (I particularly like Secret Path)

RIP.

Ludo, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:00 (one year ago) Permalink

Their final concert last year was an extraordinary Canadian moment.

Even as someone who felt completely alienated from the event and the Hip phenomenon more broadly, this is pretty clear, though the way Trudeau used Downie as a prop to make it seem like his government was going to take indigenous issues seriously is a bit sickening in retrospect

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:06 (one year ago) Permalink

RIP

Scape: Goat-fired like a dog! (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:15 (one year ago) Permalink

For me, one of the most mesmerizing things about Gord Downie was the many references -- real or alleged -- in his lyrics. There were times when I liked them more than the music itself, and I would read up on where he might've gotten an idea for some of them. It has made me ponder more about his music and how he approached music-making. His death is such a great loss to the music world. It has also motivated me to listen to his solo work, which I admittedly never listened to much.

I would like to share this web-site that has briefly catalogued some of his lyrics' meaning http://www.hipmuseum.com/directory.html

Rest in peace, Mr. Downie.

the sound of space, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:37 (one year ago) Permalink

Per the description here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Time_Running

The documentary film based around last year's tour will be on Netflix at the end of November (exception being Canada itself, where it will be on Crave TV).

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 20:53 (one year ago) Permalink

oh good i've been wanting to watch that

i love the hip museum website, it has been my favorite thing on the internet for like.... 15 years now? anyway i hope you enjoy his solo work, sound of space; battle of nudes is one of my favorite albums of all time and my favorite thing he ever did and is also home to my favorite guitar tones

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 20:59 (one year ago) Permalink

BradNelson, it's funny you should mention it. I was just telling someone that I am kind of a "tone nerd." I'll make sure to listen to Battle of Nudes tonight. Thank you.

the sound of space, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 21:02 (one year ago) Permalink

of course! it brings me so much joy to be able to recommend that album to anyone

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 21:15 (one year ago) Permalink

armed with skill and it's FRUSTRATION
and grace
too

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 21:17 (one year ago) Permalink

erroneous apostrophe ruining previous post sorry

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 21:18 (one year ago) Permalink

So many good lyrics, so many great turns of phrase, man, RIP Gord. :(

MaresNest, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 21:22 (one year ago) Permalink

rest in peace Gord

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 21:50 (one year ago) Permalink

Their final concert last year was an extraordinary Canadian moment.

― dinnerboat, Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:57 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

as an immigrant here it was a very strange and sui generis event of national unity to observe. was out for a walk during the earlier part of the show and could hear it and see it through people's apartment windows and it was on the tv in bars. streets were noticeably quieter. then watching the show, the prime minister was in the crowd, middle-aged hoser men in the crowd were crying their eyes out at the denouement. my next door neighbour, a real normy type from the prairies got home from watching it at the bar after and was shittered listening to the hip for hours into the am.

rip gord.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 23:10 (one year ago) Permalink

gord was my favorite writer; i would not necessarily be a writer at all had i not encountered his lyrics at a v impressionable age (14). i can't believe, after introduce yerself comes out next week, i'm never going to hear another new gord downie lyric. when i think about this i just lose my shit entirely

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 23:15 (one year ago) Permalink

it's been 25 years since i lived in canada; while i was aware of them -- i managed to dub someone's cassettes of the first two albums -- my friends were mostly dead/neil-heads who thought the hip were a little too edgy or something. i didn't realize how pan-canadian they'd become until gord's sickness was announced -- i saw someone today comparing it to the u.s. reaction when springsteen goes, which doesn't quite seem to capture it

rip

mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 23:36 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah--a little bit, but there's a better analogy out there...I don't know: Johnny Cash? Tom Petty? Quintessentially "Canadian" (whatever that means) in the same way they're quintessentially "American" (whatever that means). Springsteen feels like an abstraction to me; Canadians who were really affected by Downie's music seem to feel like they knew him.

Even as someone who loves one-and-one-only song ("Fireworks"), I can see that. That song comes from somewhere I know.

clemenza, Thursday, 19 October 2017 00:14 (one year ago) Permalink

"phantom power" was an unbelievably meaningful record to anyone who lived through the great 1998 ice storm like me (albeit on the other side of the border), as one of the only real pieces of media that ever directly referenced an event that absolutely devastated a very small part of the us and canada and intensely affected that region long after everyone had more or less forgotten about it.

of course they were a kingston band, so they wouldn't not write about something like that, but it always struck me as a good microcosm of downie's ability to find these little squirreled-away events in canadian history and turn them into great songs. years from now that storm is going to be as distant a memory as all the other obscure historical references in hip songs, and i really hope there's another gord downie someday to keep writing about them.

the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Thursday, 19 October 2017 00:31 (one year ago) Permalink

^^^ otm

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 October 2017 00:33 (one year ago) Permalink

i don't think there is a good analogy. they're much younger than anyone who could possibly be an american analogue, for one thing. and the fact that they *didn't* move to california, unlike many of their predecessors, is key -- there's no comparable act for any of the 'quintessentially american' candidates

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 October 2017 00:34 (one year ago) Permalink

fwiw john k samson still lives

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 October 2017 00:36 (one year ago) Permalink

fair point, and samson is extremely good at it too, but he's never quite caught on with the crucial drunk-leafs-fan demographic

the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Thursday, 19 October 2017 00:39 (one year ago) Permalink

watched the final concert with my best friend from highschool, he was a huge fan then and still is, and I always sort of heard them by proxy with him. Seeing all the support and empathy for Downie and the celebration of him as an artist was a beautiful thing.

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 19 October 2017 01:47 (one year ago) Permalink

Downie makes me proud to be a canadian tbh

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 19 October 2017 01:50 (one year ago) Permalink

Canadians who were really affected by Downie's music seem to feel like they knew him.

Just like that killer whale.

MarkoP, Thursday, 19 October 2017 02:31 (one year ago) Permalink

Also I don't think there is a british equivalent.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 19 October 2017 03:05 (one year ago) Permalink

50 Mission Cap. pic.twitter.com/fdMDy0ZGyY

— Toronto Maple Leafs (@MapleLeafs) October 18, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 October 2017 03:16 (one year ago) Permalink

For Gord. pic.twitter.com/5OJLWyyrV6

— Toronto Maple Leafs (@MapleLeafs) October 18, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 October 2017 03:25 (one year ago) Permalink

The coverage up here has included one hockey player after another being interviewed; Downie was the lead story on TSN (Canada's ESPN). He and Bobby Orr were supposed to be in close contact the past couple of years.

clemenza, Thursday, 19 October 2017 03:29 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

the documentary long time running (which i think will be available on netflix later this month) is one of the most beautiful and well-composed rock documentaries i've ever seen. i cried multiple times ofc

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 5 November 2017 15:38 (one year ago) Permalink

also the new gord album is v hard to listen to but is full of wonderful songs that feel almost improvised sometimes in their austerity and specificity. drew's production glows

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 5 November 2017 15:40 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

it’s on netflix, i really highly recommend it https://www.netflix.com/title/80205085

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 November 2017 03:32 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Not on Canadian Netflix doh.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 November 2017 04:38 (eleven months ago) Permalink

i believe it's streaming on crave tv (?) in canada

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 November 2017 16:45 (eleven months ago) Permalink

oh i have that, cool!

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 November 2017 17:35 (eleven months ago) Permalink

i watched it again last night and cried again

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 November 2017 17:35 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I blubbed like a big girl, the bit when they're about to go on stage and he's whispering in his colleague's ears, broke me.

MaresNest, Thursday, 30 November 2017 19:17 (eleven months ago) Permalink

seeing the fans crying at the shows just kills me

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 November 2017 19:23 (eleven months ago) Permalink

six months pass...

Damn much music did a retro lunch special today and played only tragically hip

synonym toast crunch (Ross), Monday, 4 June 2018 23:17 (five months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

the new (only) hip book, never-ending present, is p good so far. some filler (there's an early chapter about hip cover bands which is just barely interesting) prob bc the band apparently didn't participate in it much (which sounds like them) but still fascinating and full of amazing downie quotes

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 9 July 2018 21:39 (four months ago) Permalink

i knew their origin story pretty well but not at this level of detail, and the bill barilko chapter is just extremely heartening

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 9 July 2018 21:40 (four months ago) Permalink

"opiated" gets a few sentences in the book, and between that and its appearance the documentary, i'm belatedly realizing it's one of my favorite hip songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzxoGcBsk-8

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 9 July 2018 21:43 (four months ago) Permalink

book has gotten me so deep into this band again that i'm watching old live sets on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn83UvFzbjg

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 July 2018 12:41 (four months ago) Permalink

i ponder the endlessness of the stars
ignoring said same of my father

either it'll move me
or it'll move right through me
fully
completely

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 July 2018 12:46 (four months ago) Permalink

i love the chapters in that book that swerve away in weird directions - barclay's curiosity isn't bounded by his fandom, he lights up by the unexpected digressions etc, and i do too.

sean gramophone, Thursday, 12 July 2018 13:53 (four months ago) Permalink

i'm deeper into it and i'm starting to agree! the openers chapter was nice if only as a snapshot of the impact they had on the careers of other canadian bands

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 July 2018 15:29 (four months ago) Permalink

however i'll never forgive barclay for being kinda needlessly dismissive of music@work

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 July 2018 15:30 (four months ago) Permalink

you're beau-
tiful
terrific

your eyes
empty
pacifics

man
machine
poem

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 16 July 2018 14:08 (three months ago) Permalink

^^ what a song and lyric

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 16 July 2018 14:08 (three months ago) Permalink


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