Rockist Meat and potatoes: s & d

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super straight-ahead no surprises music.

Search: The Saints, The Real Kids, Chuck Berry.

Destroy: Eddie and The Hot Rods, George Thorogood, Chubby Checker.

fritz, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

how much 12-bar boogie & 3-chord pub-punk nonsense can you stomach?

this stuff is to me as eggs is to cool hand luke, but you got to draw the line somewhere.

fritz, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Eddie and the Hot Rods are tremendously wonderful, and how they're even on the same page as George Thorogood is completely beyond my understanding.

Search with all deliberate speed: Cheap FUCKING Trick, ZZ Top (pre- "Eliminator"), The Undertones.

Destroy: George Thorogood. Please god, destroy George Thorogood. Amen.

J, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Saints, The Real Kids - heck yes. Chuck B. too but yeah fuckin obv. Eddie & the Hot Rods were actually pretty good too tho. fritz have you ever heard a French band from the late '70s/early '80s called the Dogs? they were real good.

i don't count any of this stuff as "rockist" beccause "rockist" means it sucks.

duane, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i hate eddie and the hot rods but that's probably leftover punky ideology

mark s, Saturday, 23 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What about Eddie and the Cruisers?

dave q, Saturday, 23 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What about NRBQ? Dave Edmonds? Flamin' Groovies? Fuckin' A!!!!

Curt, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

anyawy i don't think of the saints & the real kids as 'rockist meat & potatoes' 'cause they sound sharp & urgent & - 'scuse me - 'hungry'...the most rockisty meaty potatoesy things i'd actually listen to'd be maye stuff like Foghat or "Back in '72"-era Bob Seger...or, i dunno, well for inst i actually like some songs by like springsteen, mellencamp & (esp.) bryan adams, guys that i basically hate & regard as hacks who string a pile of corn together in a cheap & manipulative way - sometimes that works good tho' - yeah & also stuff like say David Johansen's 1st solo album or some solo Iggy stuff where the music has no textural or dynamic value but there's some interest in the words or the personality in there or something.

, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Search - he Damned - "Machine Gun Etiquette", the Pink Fairies - "Live at the Roundhouse" (on pink vinyl - yay!) this stuff only worx when played witha driving sort of feel, something a lot of muso's cannot manage. Destroy the stuff mentioned by duane, above.

Norman Phay, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

OK I will.

Norman that is thee worst Pink Fairies album!

, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

too much fuckin potatoes!

, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I actually like "Down Down" by Status Quo

dave q, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Duane offers far better examples of rockist meat & potatoes than I did initially. But in terms of the urgency etc. that sets The Saints apart from Thorogood - I hear it, but I wonder how evident those differences would be to someone who didn't have much residual affection for rock in the first place.

eg "Down Down" is so good it transcends the argument to my ears, but to someone with completely nonrockist ears it's probably just another berrychuck-by-the-numbers...

fritz, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh, and I haven't heard the Dogs but I'll be on the look out now.

and I've only heard "Teenage Depression" by Eddie and The Hot Rods which I don't hate or anything but just seemed like a good example of no frills pub rock.

fritz, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Curt is OTM. How did I fail to mention the Flamin' Groovies (at least the Roy Loney version)? I'm not sure NRBQ qualifies as meat n potatoes, though -- multiple Sun Ra covers might be an instant disqualifier for this category. Still, I love 'em to pieces--I caught 'em for the fifth time last month and they're still great live. Atsa my band!

J, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

but I wonder how evident those differences would be to someone who didn't have much residual affection for rock in the first place.

yeah but FUCK ppl like that anyway.

, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the Dogs - yeah they're a lot like the Real KIds - you know ppl always say oh the fr. have this real good appreciation of that sort of stuff (cf their NY Dolls/Stooges/Groovies bootleg industry & bands like that that no-one cared about in the USA & the UK being bigdeal there & stuff) but they couldnt do it themselves - well they could

, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

get away with you duane, "Live at the Roundhouse" rocks. It has Paul Rudolph AND Lazzer Wallis on it and contains the following numbers:

1. City kids
2. Waiting for the man
3. Lucille
4. Uncle Harry's last freakout
5. Going down
Thee CD does admittedly contain a buncha extra trax which all suck. Thee bit in "Waiting for the man" where the band locks together is awesome. I think "What a Bunch of Sweeties" is the fairies' best, but that isn't no fuxing meat & potatoes, oh no....

Norman Phay, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

yeah i just remembered, it's no way the worst, how bout "Kill 'em & eat em" - STEENK. Best tho', c'mon - "Never Never Land"! gotta be!

Larry Wallis is very meat'n'potatoes but , yeah, still good.

, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two years pass...
are supergrass meat & potatoes?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 24 September 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Nah, just deliciously creamy potatoes.
Search: Keith Richards Talk Is Cheap, Flamin' Groovies Shake Some Action.

briania (briania), Friday, 24 September 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

what doora said up there about corny stuff you can still string together effectively: hell yeah! Foghat, Seger (but he's better than that if you go back to early un-legit-collected singles), Mellen, varoius Southern Boogie Rock, Thin Lizzy, AC/DC, current boogie (like Southern Humble Pie/Free but closet high IQ, look out) New Orleans' own Supagroup (should be as big as The Darkness). Othuh Suthun brainy-butt-beefy x spuds 'n' suds-ingesting: Drive-By Truckers' more stompcentric/knuckle-dragging stuff, ditto G.Mule's, Mastodon's, Texas Terri Bomb!'s EAT SHIT (PLUS 1), and her brand new YOUR LIPS...MY ASS. Goes good with the Paybacks.

Don A, Friday, 24 September 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Search: Count Bishops, baby!

Dark Horse, Friday, 24 September 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
are the hammersmith gorillas rockist meat & potatoes?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 18 November 2004 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Lynyrd Skynrd?

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 19 November 2004 05:41 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
Doorag's against corny and manipulative rock, fine but surely it's irrelevant since there is nothing corny or manipulative about meat & potatoes, right ? Stay on track ! With the Stray Cats !!

blunt (blunt), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:11 (twenty years ago)

Oh, it's an S&D so it was about destroying cheese that could pass for straight up balls to the wall rippin' shit the fuck up ?

blunt (blunt), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:19 (twenty years ago)


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