The Clientele - Best Band Since The Smiths

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The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! No discussion is necessary. It's easy to guess what will be posted below and from whom. In your postings, some of you will be wrong and some of you will be right. Those of you whom are wrong will rely on dull puns and ridiculous one-liners, and you'll post just to argue with a subject that you shouldn't even have clicked-on to begin with. Those of you whom are right will use exclamations points and you'll repeat the main idea.

The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths!

Bonus points to those that can guess who posted this. I'm a regular contributor to the "board."

Anonymous, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

the clientele is way cool...let's leave it at that

mark, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths!

"Let's leave it at that" ? Ummmmm, no, let's not, but I agree with you about the "way cool" thing.

The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths!

She Loves Music, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Bonus points to those that can guess who posted this.

Alasdair Maclean?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

No discussion is necessary.
That is probably why you post in a discussion forum, right? Ok I'll do you the favour. I don't discuss. And write down what I think:

The Clientele are rubbish.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I love Suburban Light - it does the same thing for me as Manfred Mann's Up the Junction soundtrack. By the way, is it me, or does Alisdair Maclean have an obsession with rain?

Jez, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Hahahaha, now I not only need to laugh at thee Clientele, now I can laugh at their fans also!!! And who woulda thought arguments would start on DISCUSSION BOARDS eh?

I think the Smiths aren't ALL THAT either.

Sarah, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Love Suburban Light, picked it up a few weeks ago from some recommendations on this board. Great CD! Could it be Tim Gravina?

Poops Mcgee, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I don't think Alasdair MacLean likes the Smiths.

marianna, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I've always said Alasdair was a GRATE BLOKE (hem hem)!

Sarah, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Jez, yeah. I can't keep a straight face when he goes on about the rain again. It's like "Wooo - rain. Atmosphere!".

N., Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Any band that namechecks The Carnival is Over (coincidentally my birthday no.1), get the thumbs-up in my book!

Jez, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

It all started when he first heard 'Its Raining Meng'. I WISH.

Sarah, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Could it be Tim Gravina?

I MEANT DIGRAVINA

Poops Mcgee, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Poops, thank you for the name check. :)

I can't take credit for The Smiths/Clientele thread, though I'd almost say I agree with its premise, as long as The Clientele continue down the path highlighted by the Suburban Light collection. I'm not too eloquent this morning, so I hope this next part makes sense… a decent sized group of fans/critics see The Smiths as being among the last of the truly great rock bands, and I frequently find it hard to disagree. (Though I sometimes think a case can be made for The Stone Roses simply on the strength of their debut album, and then there’s My Bloody Valentine) While The Clientele don't seem to have the truly magic energy The Smiths had when they started out, I'm reserving a possible place for them amongst my favorite bands and hoping they continue to release excellent singles/EPs. I'm not sure why some people on ILM have lumped The Clientele in with Belle & Sebastian... it seems too early for a backlash. I’m guessing it’s either not their cup of tea altogether (they can’t give in to quaint charm) or they just haven’t played Suburban Light enough times; I’ll admit that I thought it was near rubbish (like Alex) at first as well, but now it’s one of the most cherished pieces of my CD collection. Still, if The Clientele start passing the mic to every band member and every family member and every distant cousin like B & S, then I'll join the backlash. As of now, I'm happy to have them and I'm enthused by their promise.

I love The Clientele! <-- Using the exclamation point specified in the subject.

Tim DiGravina, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'm happy to have them and I'm enthused by their promise

Just you wait -- the third album will be nothing but bad reggae and refried boogie and be produced by Glen Ballard.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

uuuugh.

Graham, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Just you wait -- the third album will be nothing but bad reggae and refried boogie and be produced by Glen Ballard.

<--I hope the italics worked. If not, it's a Ned Raggett quote.

Well, I'll take the bad reggae and refriend boogie as long as the sleeve is pretty. It's too early in the morning for me to deal with a Glen Ballard reference... but I will say this... my breakfast has returned to its plate in a more liquid form.

Tim DiGravina, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Glad to be of service.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i really like the clientele but don't you think we should wait until they put out a few proper albums to see if we should be calling them "best band since The Smiths!"? I mean, a lot of good bands have come and gone since 1987...

g, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I like them better than The Smiths. I never liked The Smiths. I come from America, where people aren't like that.

Sterling Clover, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

There are currently about two thousand cholos driving out to Chicago to beat your ass for saying that, Sterling. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

I can't believe this thread has been asleep for 6 years! haven't you people heard God Save The Clientele? it's really really good! "Bookshop Casanova" is some kind of sleepy-eyed disco masterpiece, no? The guitar solo is sooo Santana, duh.

uncannydan, Thursday, 7 August 2008 08:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

There have been other Clientele threads in the last six years.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 7 August 2008 08:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

For instance - God Save The Clientele - The anticipation thread

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 7 August 2008 08:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

My mistake, I must have glanced over in the search. Looks like I have some reading to do...

uncannydan, Thursday, 7 August 2008 08:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

But your underlying point is right: The Clientele are great (and underappreciated). MacLean is also a very good guitarist, I think.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

I don't really think they are underappreciated, considering that certain people follow them around the world on tour as if they were Manchester United or Exeter City.

the pinefox, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

Not sure that's right... That means that a few people really appreciate them. They should be much bigger than they are, I think.

Keith, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

i was just going to revive a clientele thread. "strange geometry" is my favorite lp of theirs. the last time i posted on them, "violet hour" had just come out and i was underwhelmed.

btw when did they get a gorgeous violin player?

amateurist, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

also note that alasdair was once an ilxor.

amateurist, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'd never heard of them until I went through Southall's Best of '07 list on Amazon. I bought it based on that recommendation and yeah, it's a very good album.

nate woolls, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

Also note that Graham was once an ilxor.

the pinefox, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

lots of former ilxors... where are they now?...

amateurist, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

also note that alasdair was once an ilxor.

I remember reading about that on another thread. But wasn't it just one post by him (e.g., a response to another ILX'or commenting on The Clientele)?

The new violin player joined the band just before God Save The Clientele was recorded, I think. And yeah, she is hot.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

as i recall, he was fairly active here for a bit. ca. 2001.

amateurist, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

No, it wasn't just one post by any means; we also debated Derrida / Paul de Man / Rudolph Gasché once, for instance.

the pinefox, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

hi pinefox.

amateurist, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

Their new Acuarela ep has been delayed for a month or so now, I really liked the droney tracks on the previous Adriane ep & hope they've done a few more.

zaxxon25, Thursday, 7 August 2008 18:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

i have all their early 7"s, I wish they were bigger than they are so I could sell them and buy a house

akm, Thursday, 7 August 2008 18:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

One of them's on the MySpace page: "Share the Night". It is great, but it's in no way like the Ariadne stuff.

Keith, Thursday, 7 August 2008 18:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

Good song! But as they become more upbeat and clear, they do lose something essential (that hazy charm of their early records). Still, they've got to grow, and they are still a special band.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 7 August 2008 19:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I kind of think that they've done that... Really well, but better to change than keep on pumping out the same records.

Keith, Thursday, 7 August 2008 19:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

Just you wait -- the third album will be nothing but bad reggae and refried boogie and be produced by Glen Ballard.

well thank god this didn't come true!

stephen, Saturday, 9 August 2008 15:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

New album tentatively coming out in October. Sounds like it might be their last.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 12 May 2009 07:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

even corpse management will be at risk (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 15:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'll be bummed if they break-up after the next album. Feels like they had plenty of room to develop their sound, without losing what makes them special and charming.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 12 May 2009 15:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

The interview makes the record sound extremely promising.

Simon H., Tuesday, 12 May 2009 15:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Sounds like it might be their last."

it's only "might", so ill stay poisitive bout it.

The only Clientele record i return to is Geomatry,really.great piece of music.
also, alsadir is underrated guitarist

Zeno, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 16:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

...seeing them love made it clearer, to me at least.

Zeno, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 16:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

this album
rocks very well
much Clientele

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 September 2017 15:06 (one year ago) Permalink

This is a pair of old slacks, slipped on for a lazy Sunday afternoon.
:'(

niels, Saturday, 30 September 2017 14:38 (one year ago) Permalink

Apropo response from a 2015 interview with Alasdair MacLean:

We’ve talked about the sound and atmosphere you create as a band and you’ve mentioned that with each album you’re trying to refine that sound and get at the essence of it. Some critics have a tendency to accuse acts of rehashing old songs. What’s your opinion on that?

I think that I completely understand why people would say that about The Clientele, as they’re viewing us in 2015 as a Rock ‘n’ Roll band. The kind of rock band that has to focus on reinvention, this Miles Davis or Picasso styled reinvention. But in 2015, Rock ‘n’ Roll bands don’t mean anything and The Clientele isn’t one; they’re an art project. Again I know that sounds aggressively pretentious.

What it is it’s a refinement of a certain idea and it’s something that’s lasted a couple of decades and a lot of people have contributed to it. So you shouldn’t expect a Kid A from us or a Screamadelica. That’s all bullshit now anyway. I don’t think it matters now, I don’t think it has any meaning anymore. What we’re doing is just rumbling on with this art project that’s been going on since the ’90s.

Our whole aim and our whole methodology is separate from what they’re looking at, what their expectations are. We don’t have that idea of the difficult third album, that’s foreign to what we do.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 30 September 2017 14:50 (one year ago) Permalink

oops spelled apropos wrong

erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 30 September 2017 15:27 (one year ago) Permalink

that's a great response

niels, Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:07 (one year ago) Permalink

It's so rare you hear an actually interesting answer from someone in a band

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 30 September 2017 23:48 (one year ago) Permalink

i was listening to the sassoon lyric and i finally looked to refresh how and who and why i knew this... ohhh, yeah. that was really moving actually.

zeitgeist: hotttest anonytakes wish for or promise hyper violence (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 01:53 (one year ago) Permalink

OK the reason I'm not on board with the assessments upthread that this is their best album is that the compositions feel a bit bloated. Just a bit overthought imo. Cynical read is that they're compensating for otherwise slightly less inspired melodies...

Still, I love it. The Clientele is my favorite band. Just looking at it in comparison the the rest of their catalog.

Evan, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 16:27 (one year ago) Permalink

New album is very good but it's not their best.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 00:40 (one year ago) Permalink

are we ready for an album poll?

that's not my post, Friday, 20 October 2017 06:11 (one year ago) Permalink

Ready! It's the perfect time of year to back through their albums again.

kitchen person, Friday, 20 October 2017 06:22 (one year ago) Permalink

we can poll the greatest comp too!

niels, Friday, 20 October 2017 06:58 (one year ago) Permalink

ok then. i'll put up the album poll this weekend. great idea to poll the greatest hit comp as well.

Strange POLLometry ...

that's not my post, Friday, 20 October 2017 15:24 (one year ago) Permalink

I Had to POLL This

erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 20 October 2017 15:51 (one year ago) Permalink

God POLL The Clientele

winnebago taco, Friday, 20 October 2017 21:27 (one year ago) Permalink

We can POLL together

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Friday, 20 October 2017 21:52 (one year ago) Permalink

POLLiceman getting lost

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 20 October 2017 21:54 (one year ago) Permalink

POLLcelain

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 20 October 2017 22:24 (one year ago) Permalink

POLLing time and money doesn't mean a thing

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 20 October 2017 22:40 (one year ago) Permalink

Poll is up. Very excited to see how many voters and what is the consensus view. Have to say that I forgot about The Minotaur... don't think that was their best effort. I only included full length albums.

that's not my post, Saturday, 21 October 2017 05:22 (one year ago) Permalink

Minotaur starts well but has a drop in quality a few tracks in iirc, weird EP but ofc nice that they were trying something new

niels, Saturday, 21 October 2017 08:42 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

it's that time of year

niels, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 14:33 (one month ago) Permalink

They were very good the other week. No new songs on the night but I believe there are some goodies in the works.

Tim, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 14:35 (one month ago) Permalink

God Save The Clientele is the fourth studio album by British indiepop band The Clientele. Recorded in Nashville, Tennessee, it broadens the band's palette through the use of pedal steel and slide guitar.

wow, never knew this

anyway:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxaPeBJ0oa8

niels, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 14:35 (one month ago) Permalink

I'd love to see them again

niels, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 14:35 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah GSTC was recorded, barring a few overdubs, at Mark Nevers's studio (where a lot of Lambchop's work to that point was recorded); the final mix was done at Bark in London. I've heard conflicting things about whether the Nevers mixes exist in any meaningful form.

Tim, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 14:41 (one month ago) Permalink

hell yeah time to break out my Suburban Light and Strange Geometry LPs

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 14:43 (one month ago) Permalink

i always thought strange geometry was obviously the best one but now i think I've listened to GSTC way more in the past few years

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 14:45 (one month ago) Permalink

the highs of GSTC are very high but I do find some of it a little treacly/pastiche-y, moreso than usual

after many years of trying I finally cracked The Violet Hour...no idea why I always found it so impenetrable

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 14:49 (one month ago) Permalink

the house always wins

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 14:52 (one month ago) Permalink

I revisit It's Art Dad very often

Evan, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 16:38 (one month ago) Permalink

I mean I constantly listen to them overall but I wanted to mention that one in particular

Evan, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 16:39 (one month ago) Permalink

In an August sky-y-y-y-y

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 16:45 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm thinking these days that Music for the Age of Miracles is up there with the Violet Hour in my Clientele album rankings, it's so so good

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 16:46 (one month ago) Permalink

I want to like it that much but I'm still really turned off by the bloated compositions and distracting backing vocals.

Evan, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 17:55 (one month ago) Permalink

Don't mean to be a downer about it though... I know it's loved here. I want to love it. Though I've said before that I think I would love a "Naked" version of the record!

Evan, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 20:52 (one month ago) Permalink

GSTC is my least favorite exactly because it sounds like it was recorded in Nashville, which basically means overproduced imo

Dan I., Wednesday, 7 November 2018 22:28 (one month ago) Permalink

(ha, sorry, I guess "nashville == overproduced sound" is about the most cliched thing a person can say)

Dan I., Wednesday, 7 November 2018 22:31 (one month ago) Permalink

the Nudie suits were also ill-advised

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 22:55 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

So I’ve really be into As Night Is Falling. The one with all the moody organ (or synth) and Alasdair singing about Ms Jones. Whatever that first chord is from the organ - so nice.

that's not my post, Friday, 7 December 2018 04:00 (five days ago) Permalink

it's very good

bit of an outlier for Alasdair vocal-wise, somewhat strained, soulful in its pathos

niels, Friday, 7 December 2018 09:12 (five days ago) Permalink

Those ghostly dreamlike songs they do are my favorite.

I love 6am Morningside the most! It really captures the quiet peaceful mood of early morning.

Evan, Friday, 7 December 2018 15:33 (five days ago) Permalink

ooh that's good too

niels, Friday, 7 December 2018 16:42 (five days ago) Permalink

Driving South and As Night is Falling always seemed of a pair to me, both amazing

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:06 (five days ago) Permalink

My favorite part of the song is

It's a suburb in the rain
It don't matter anyway

I always want that sequence to repeat, at least musically. Wouldn't mind if it happened twice in a row. It's the prettiest part!

Evan, Friday, 7 December 2018 17:14 (five days ago) Permalink

Speaking of the songs in this category... has anyone heard the original version of Six Foot Drop by Clock Strikes Thirteen? I've never heard it and can't find it.

Evan, Friday, 7 December 2018 17:21 (five days ago) Permalink

Not sure how I missed that!

Evan, Friday, 7 December 2018 17:32 (five days ago) Permalink

maybe wasn't uploaded last time you looked? I have that 7", Drive-In Records was quality indie pop.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:34 (five days ago) Permalink

a bit of Dear Prudence in Driving South

niels, Friday, 7 December 2018 18:08 (five days ago) Permalink


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