The Clientele - Best Band Since The Smiths

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The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! No discussion is necessary. It's easy to guess what will be posted below and from whom. In your postings, some of you will be wrong and some of you will be right. Those of you whom are wrong will rely on dull puns and ridiculous one-liners, and you'll post just to argue with a subject that you shouldn't even have clicked-on to begin with. Those of you whom are right will use exclamations points and you'll repeat the main idea.

The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths! The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths!

Bonus points to those that can guess who posted this. I'm a regular contributor to the "board."

Anonymous, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

the clientele is way cool...let's leave it at that

mark, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths!

"Let's leave it at that" ? Ummmmm, no, let's not, but I agree with you about the "way cool" thing.

The Clientele are the best band since The Smiths!

She Loves Music, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Bonus points to those that can guess who posted this.

Alasdair Maclean?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

No discussion is necessary.
That is probably why you post in a discussion forum, right? Ok I'll do you the favour. I don't discuss. And write down what I think:

The Clientele are rubbish.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I love Suburban Light - it does the same thing for me as Manfred Mann's Up the Junction soundtrack. By the way, is it me, or does Alisdair Maclean have an obsession with rain?

Jez, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Hahahaha, now I not only need to laugh at thee Clientele, now I can laugh at their fans also!!! And who woulda thought arguments would start on DISCUSSION BOARDS eh?

I think the Smiths aren't ALL THAT either.

Sarah, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Love Suburban Light, picked it up a few weeks ago from some recommendations on this board. Great CD! Could it be Tim Gravina?

Poops Mcgee, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I don't think Alasdair MacLean likes the Smiths.

marianna, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I've always said Alasdair was a GRATE BLOKE (hem hem)!

Sarah, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Jez, yeah. I can't keep a straight face when he goes on about the rain again. It's like "Wooo - rain. Atmosphere!".

N., Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Any band that namechecks The Carnival is Over (coincidentally my birthday no.1), get the thumbs-up in my book!

Jez, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

It all started when he first heard 'Its Raining Meng'. I WISH.

Sarah, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Could it be Tim Gravina?

I MEANT DIGRAVINA

Poops Mcgee, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Poops, thank you for the name check. :)

I can't take credit for The Smiths/Clientele thread, though I'd almost say I agree with its premise, as long as The Clientele continue down the path highlighted by the Suburban Light collection. I'm not too eloquent this morning, so I hope this next part makes sense… a decent sized group of fans/critics see The Smiths as being among the last of the truly great rock bands, and I frequently find it hard to disagree. (Though I sometimes think a case can be made for The Stone Roses simply on the strength of their debut album, and then there’s My Bloody Valentine) While The Clientele don't seem to have the truly magic energy The Smiths had when they started out, I'm reserving a possible place for them amongst my favorite bands and hoping they continue to release excellent singles/EPs. I'm not sure why some people on ILM have lumped The Clientele in with Belle & Sebastian... it seems too early for a backlash. I’m guessing it’s either not their cup of tea altogether (they can’t give in to quaint charm) or they just haven’t played Suburban Light enough times; I’ll admit that I thought it was near rubbish (like Alex) at first as well, but now it’s one of the most cherished pieces of my CD collection. Still, if The Clientele start passing the mic to every band member and every family member and every distant cousin like B & S, then I'll join the backlash. As of now, I'm happy to have them and I'm enthused by their promise.

I love The Clientele! <-- Using the exclamation point specified in the subject.

Tim DiGravina, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'm happy to have them and I'm enthused by their promise

Just you wait -- the third album will be nothing but bad reggae and refried boogie and be produced by Glen Ballard.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

uuuugh.

Graham, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Just you wait -- the third album will be nothing but bad reggae and refried boogie and be produced by Glen Ballard.

<--I hope the italics worked. If not, it's a Ned Raggett quote.

Well, I'll take the bad reggae and refriend boogie as long as the sleeve is pretty. It's too early in the morning for me to deal with a Glen Ballard reference... but I will say this... my breakfast has returned to its plate in a more liquid form.

Tim DiGravina, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Glad to be of service.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i really like the clientele but don't you think we should wait until they put out a few proper albums to see if we should be calling them "best band since The Smiths!"? I mean, a lot of good bands have come and gone since 1987...

g, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I like them better than The Smiths. I never liked The Smiths. I come from America, where people aren't like that.

Sterling Clover, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

There are currently about two thousand cholos driving out to Chicago to beat your ass for saying that, Sterling. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

I can't believe this thread has been asleep for 6 years! haven't you people heard God Save The Clientele? it's really really good! "Bookshop Casanova" is some kind of sleepy-eyed disco masterpiece, no? The guitar solo is sooo Santana, duh.

uncannydan, Thursday, 7 August 2008 08:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

There have been other Clientele threads in the last six years.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 7 August 2008 08:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

For instance - God Save The Clientele - The anticipation thread

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 7 August 2008 08:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

My mistake, I must have glanced over in the search. Looks like I have some reading to do...

uncannydan, Thursday, 7 August 2008 08:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

But your underlying point is right: The Clientele are great (and underappreciated). MacLean is also a very good guitarist, I think.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

I don't really think they are underappreciated, considering that certain people follow them around the world on tour as if they were Manchester United or Exeter City.

the pinefox, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

Not sure that's right... That means that a few people really appreciate them. They should be much bigger than they are, I think.

Keith, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

i was just going to revive a clientele thread. "strange geometry" is my favorite lp of theirs. the last time i posted on them, "violet hour" had just come out and i was underwhelmed.

btw when did they get a gorgeous violin player?

amateurist, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

also note that alasdair was once an ilxor.

amateurist, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'd never heard of them until I went through Southall's Best of '07 list on Amazon. I bought it based on that recommendation and yeah, it's a very good album.

nate woolls, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

Also note that Graham was once an ilxor.

the pinefox, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

lots of former ilxors... where are they now?...

amateurist, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

also note that alasdair was once an ilxor.

I remember reading about that on another thread. But wasn't it just one post by him (e.g., a response to another ILX'or commenting on The Clientele)?

The new violin player joined the band just before God Save The Clientele was recorded, I think. And yeah, she is hot.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

as i recall, he was fairly active here for a bit. ca. 2001.

amateurist, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

No, it wasn't just one post by any means; we also debated Derrida / Paul de Man / Rudolph Gasché once, for instance.

the pinefox, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

hi pinefox.

amateurist, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

Their new Acuarela ep has been delayed for a month or so now, I really liked the droney tracks on the previous Adriane ep & hope they've done a few more.

zaxxon25, Thursday, 7 August 2008 18:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

i have all their early 7"s, I wish they were bigger than they are so I could sell them and buy a house

akm, Thursday, 7 August 2008 18:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

One of them's on the MySpace page: "Share the Night". It is great, but it's in no way like the Ariadne stuff.

Keith, Thursday, 7 August 2008 18:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

Good song! But as they become more upbeat and clear, they do lose something essential (that hazy charm of their early records). Still, they've got to grow, and they are still a special band.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 7 August 2008 19:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I kind of think that they've done that... Really well, but better to change than keep on pumping out the same records.

Keith, Thursday, 7 August 2008 19:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

Just you wait -- the third album will be nothing but bad reggae and refried boogie and be produced by Glen Ballard.

well thank god this didn't come true!

stephen, Saturday, 9 August 2008 15:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

New album tentatively coming out in October. Sounds like it might be their last.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 12 May 2009 07:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

even corpse management will be at risk (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 15:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'll be bummed if they break-up after the next album. Feels like they had plenty of room to develop their sound, without losing what makes them special and charming.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 12 May 2009 15:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

The interview makes the record sound extremely promising.

Simon H., Tuesday, 12 May 2009 15:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Sounds like it might be their last."

it's only "might", so ill stay poisitive bout it.

The only Clientele record i return to is Geomatry,really.great piece of music.
also, alsadir is underrated guitarist

Zeno, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 16:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

...seeing them love made it clearer, to me at least.

Zeno, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 16:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

God Save the Clientele is the most sophisticated, it has a violin on it. The Violet Hour is probably my favorite record by any artist, ever.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 25 August 2017 21:57 (one month ago) Permalink

'the queen of seville' is probably my favorite clientele song

ciderpress, Friday, 25 August 2017 22:04 (one month ago) Permalink

Strange Geometry is my favorite. It just has this incredible cohesion that I think elevates it above just a collection of beautiful songs, like it needs to experienced as a whole many times over to be appreciated. Maybe the best sequenced album i've heard.

Suburban Light is kinda the reverse. It's filled with jawdroppingly good tracks that standing alone i would be super excited to share with someone else or to hear come up on a playlist, but I never get the urge to listen to it through all the way.

Violet Hour is closer to Strange Geometry but doesn't get stuck in my head as often. Still damn good though.

And weirdly those 3 albums encapsulate them so much for me that I haven't really ever bothered to get into any of their other stuff. I just kinda think oh yeah it probly sounds like the Clientele who I love and its probly good but I've already got enough.

crunchytunes, Friday, 25 August 2017 22:13 (one month ago) Permalink

I heard the new album at work today. Absolutely stunning. It really is everything I wanted from a new album by them.

My favourite album is The Violet Hour which feels strange as it was the least instant out of all their releases for me. My favourite song is Bookshop Casanova which is hovering round my top 10 songs of all time list. The harmonies and string combination in the second verse is one of those perfect moments.

kitchen person, Saturday, 26 August 2017 01:12 (one month ago) Permalink

So looking forward to the new album. Jealous of you folks in the biz that get advanced listens.

For albums I'd list Suburban Light at the top. But a top ten songs would pull in stuff from most albums and some of the EPs. Shout out to the That Night, A Forest Grew EP which has two of their best tracks, Retiro Park and Share The Night.

I'll do a poll once the new one is released.

that's not my post, Saturday, 26 August 2017 02:06 (one month ago) Permalink

"the neighbour" might be their best album opener

― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:47 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Since K Got Over Me is tough hurdle. Hope The Neighbour is that good.

that's not my post, Saturday, 26 August 2017 02:09 (one month ago) Permalink

the violet hour is my favourite. liked the following ones, but i love the off-tuned misty feel of that one

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 26 August 2017 02:25 (one month ago) Permalink

Shout out to the That Night, A Forest Grew EP which has two of their best tracks, Retiro Park and Share The Night.

― that's not my post, Friday, August 25, 2017 10:06 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Funny, I remember ilx absolutely hating Share The Night when it came out! I think it's nice myself.

From that EP nothing comes close to George Says He Has Lost His Way In This World imo

I do think Alasdair was in a sort of a compositional rut around that time. He was really leaning hard on those stab-y guitar songs with obligatory psych solo

Evan, Saturday, 26 August 2017 05:44 (one month ago) Permalink

Strange Geometry was my introduction to the band, and probably because of that I found it a bit difficult to get into the earlier records since they have that weird ethereal (thin mercury?) sound compared to the lush production of SG, GStC and Bonfires (and the new one).

Lately I've been listening a lot to the best of compilation, nice mix

niels, Saturday, 26 August 2017 06:51 (one month ago) Permalink

"suburban light" and "strange geometry" are my fave albums. I also find "the violet hour" impenetrable and hard to get into although "house on fire" is one of my fave Clientele tunes

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Saturday, 26 August 2017 11:51 (one month ago) Permalink

Seconds ago I was grocery shopping at the local supermarket and they played I Wonder Who We Are and I was sorta freaked out. I walked half an aisle to hear better just to be sure I wasn't imagining it.

committee on mindset metastructure (Hunt3r), Saturday, 26 August 2017 14:26 (one month ago) Permalink

did you gaze distantly at a bag of chips

Dan I., Saturday, 26 August 2017 16:03 (one month ago) Permalink

that happened to me a couple days ago at the grocery store, except it was eddie murphy's "party all the time"

erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 26 August 2017 17:05 (one month ago) Permalink

i've heard 'here comes the phantom' at the supermarket, they seem to have an indie pop playlist that plays late at night since i hear beach house, grizzly bear etc all the time there too but only after 10pm

ciderpress, Saturday, 26 August 2017 17:11 (one month ago) Permalink

I watched (I Can't Seem to) Make You Mine on youtube and the comments are filled with awestruck The Lake House movie super-fans.

Apparently the movie opens with that song playing?

Evan, Saturday, 26 August 2017 19:27 (one month ago) Permalink

Lol thx for calming reassurances. I love them chips so much. We gonna last.

I've not heard clientele anywhere I've not sought out, and King Soopers was not my predicted venue.

committee on mindset metastructure (Hunt3r), Sunday, 27 August 2017 02:38 (one month ago) Permalink

Lunar Days is a beauty

niels, Sunday, 27 August 2017 09:33 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

this is rather lovely from, reminiscent of the adriane ep:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=s7szaOJnPYI

cw, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:54 (one month ago) Permalink

new track (everything you see tonight is different from itself) is fantastic

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 15 September 2017 22:51 (one month ago) Permalink

my copy shipped a few days ago, can't wait to hear the whole album!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 15 September 2017 23:38 (one month ago) Permalink

New album streaming on NPR:

http://www.npr.org/2017/09/18/550698416/first-listen-the-clientele-music-for-the-age-of-miracles

Gonna wait until I get my vinyl copy because I'm seasonal like that.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 18 September 2017 19:14 (one month ago) Permalink

When you read been readin about an album, and are anxious just to the streaming stage, that's where I been at. Psyched to listen later tonight.

felix! phelix! ghelix! (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 02:51 (one month ago) Permalink

Ha "just to get to"

felix! phelix! ghelix! (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 03:03 (one month ago) Permalink

album is fantastic

niels, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 09:10 (one month ago) Permalink

it's by some distance my favourite clientele album

Isi, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 10:04 (one month ago) Permalink

Everyone you meet is wonderful

niels, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 12:24 (one month ago) Permalink

it's really beautiful!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 14:03 (one month ago) Permalink

Like it a lot lot.

felix! phelix! ghelix! (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 14:13 (one month ago) Permalink

It's very, very good.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 14:14 (one month ago) Permalink

"Everything You See Tonight Is Different From Itself" is like a whole album in six minutes — really fantastic.
coming around to the (weird) idea that this might be their best album.

tylerw, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 14:16 (one month ago) Permalink

good interview over here: http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2017/09/19/the-clientele-the-aquarium-drunkard-interview/

tylerw, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 14:19 (one month ago) Permalink

I haven't listened to it yet (came in the mail this morning!) but it's shocking to imagine a better album than Strange Geometry so I'm excited and nervous.

Evan, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 14:58 (one month ago) Permalink

i know! i don't know, it might be that a band this deep into their career has no business making an album as great as Music for the Age of Miracles.

tylerw, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 14:59 (one month ago) Permalink

Interesting interview!

We’ve always had the ambition, but we’re always been too poor and too impatient to do it in the way we wanted to. I feel like we’re just starting that journey, really. I feel like we can do a lot more in terms of electronic beats and a lot more in terms of instrumental textures. It really sets you free, it’s like having a whole different palette of colors to use. I said I’d only do another Clientele record if we grew. We couldn’t keep on making Bonfires on the Heath indefinitely. We had to break through and do something else. We were actually able to.

niels, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 15:29 (one month ago) Permalink

On first listen, the electronic beats and other new production touches were exactly what I liked least about it. Great album overall, though!

Dan I., Tuesday, 19 September 2017 16:38 (one month ago) Permalink

i want to see these guys live again. I saw them maybe 9-10 years ago. Beach House was opening for them!

nomar, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 16:40 (one month ago) Permalink

I remember feeling the same way about God Save the Clientele-- weren't there banjos or something else "adventurous" on there? :/

xpost

Dan I., Tuesday, 19 September 2017 16:40 (one month ago) Permalink

think there's pedal steel on that one.
Not like they've gone and made an "electronic" album by any stretch here, everything is subtly/smoothly incorporated to my ears.

tylerw, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 16:48 (one month ago) Permalink

Beautiful on first listen. They've managed to broaden the sonic landscapes while remaining rooted in classic Clientele tunes.

that's not my post, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 17:04 (one month ago) Permalink

This album is kind of perfect isn't it? It's everything that's great about them but with a few new surprises (mainly the scope of instruments they've used). I can't stop listening to it. They've timed the released brilliantly too.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 22:20 (one month ago) Permalink

Falling Asleep is like a Lamplight-level masterpiece, I can listen to it on repeat for ages. Especially the album version that has an extra couple of minutes of outro!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 29 September 2017 14:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

this album
rocks very well
much Clientele

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 September 2017 15:06 (two weeks ago) Permalink

This is a pair of old slacks, slipped on for a lazy Sunday afternoon.
:'(

niels, Saturday, 30 September 2017 14:38 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Apropo response from a 2015 interview with Alasdair MacLean:

We’ve talked about the sound and atmosphere you create as a band and you’ve mentioned that with each album you’re trying to refine that sound and get at the essence of it. Some critics have a tendency to accuse acts of rehashing old songs. What’s your opinion on that?

I think that I completely understand why people would say that about The Clientele, as they’re viewing us in 2015 as a Rock ‘n’ Roll band. The kind of rock band that has to focus on reinvention, this Miles Davis or Picasso styled reinvention. But in 2015, Rock ‘n’ Roll bands don’t mean anything and The Clientele isn’t one; they’re an art project. Again I know that sounds aggressively pretentious.

What it is it’s a refinement of a certain idea and it’s something that’s lasted a couple of decades and a lot of people have contributed to it. So you shouldn’t expect a Kid A from us or a Screamadelica. That’s all bullshit now anyway. I don’t think it matters now, I don’t think it has any meaning anymore. What we’re doing is just rumbling on with this art project that’s been going on since the ’90s.

Our whole aim and our whole methodology is separate from what they’re looking at, what their expectations are. We don’t have that idea of the difficult third album, that’s foreign to what we do.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 30 September 2017 14:50 (two weeks ago) Permalink

oops spelled apropos wrong

erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 30 September 2017 15:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink

that's a great response

niels, Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

It's so rare you hear an actually interesting answer from someone in a band

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 30 September 2017 23:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i was listening to the sassoon lyric and i finally looked to refresh how and who and why i knew this... ohhh, yeah. that was really moving actually.

zeitgeist: hotttest anonytakes wish for or promise hyper violence (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 01:53 (one week ago) Permalink

OK the reason I'm not on board with the assessments upthread that this is their best album is that the compositions feel a bit bloated. Just a bit overthought imo. Cynical read is that they're compensating for otherwise slightly less inspired melodies...

Still, I love it. The Clientele is my favorite band. Just looking at it in comparison the the rest of their catalog.

Evan, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 16:27 (two days ago) Permalink

New album is very good but it's not their best.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 00:40 (yesterday) Permalink


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