the feelies - classic or dud?

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absolute classic! one of my all-time faves. vanished after releasing four outstanding albums (the best being _crazy rhythms_ and _only life_) between 1980 and 1991.

willem, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I used to love the Feelies and I still own the two albums you praise (sold The Good Earth though, it was kinda bleh) but I can't honestly remember the last time I listened to either one. Still a classic in my book (about 60 million times more interesting than any of their NYC counterparts to boot--better songs, less pretensions, just good music) and their appearance in Something Wild is one of my fave band cameos. This thread will probably inspire me to listen to them when I go home.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

that appearance in "something wild" is indeed a classic as well, how did they end up in that one? btw, would have loved to have had the feelies on one of my highschool-parties!

willem, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I think Demme is from New Jersey. I just assumed he was fan. They have a song in Married to the Mob as well, I think.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

On Crazy Rhythms, they seemed like a guitar band that could only be possible in a time when synths were center stage. They sounded like they were both inspired by recent synth music, and answering to it. I've never heard their albums from after Crazy Rhythms except for bits here and there. I know they list keyboards in the credits, but do they use them prominently?

Curt, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I love "IT'S ONLY LIFE".. Great lp!!!

todd, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I bought _Only Life_ back in... 87? 89? I can't remember exactly, but I do remember loving the first song and thinking that the rest of it was unbearably dull. This may have been influenced by all of the industrial music that was obssessing me at the time, though.

Dan Perry, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

didn't most of them become wake ooloo? i've never heard wake ooloo. are they any good?

keith, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

keyboards is not an instrument that comes to mind when i think about feelies-albums. so that would mean not so prominent i suppose. i've heard one wake ooloo album a few years back but couldn't be bothered at the time. i just remember thinking it was something like a one-legged feelie (?)

willem, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I think Demme directed the video for "Away," too. I saw them live shortly after the release of Time For A Witness (yet another solid album) and they seemed a little tired of playing for like a dozen people after ten years of touring. I also recall them re-tuning their guitars after every single song. I believe one of the percussionists went on to play in some incarnation of Luna..? Anyway - one of my favorite bands of yore.

josh, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Yes - Crazy Rhythms and the Good Earth are modest classics. I bought Crazy Rhythms and The Bongos album (Can't remember the title - it's a compilation of singles and EPs I think) for £3 each on the same day, and each of them make me instantly happy when I pick them up. Each has a thick, cardboardy sleeve which is important. The Good Earth is less original, and since it was produced by Peter Buck, the inevitable REM comparisons were a little tiresome, but not totally unjust. I didn't like Only Life much.

Dr. C, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

What Dr.C said. Their music makes me happy as well. I think about riding a train, looking out of the window and seeing lush meadows when I hear Feelies guitars. And "Good Earth" I like a lot whereas "Only Life" I don't.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

"Crazy Rhythms" is fan goddam fucken tastic but all i heard of their later stuff was just this boring REM type of music. why did they stop doing all that crazy drum shit?

, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...

GLENN: Stiff requested a demo for a second album. They didn't like it. We were doing a lot of home recording, even more in an Eno mode
and less like a rock band. Stiff rejected the songs and we just wrote some more. We weren't playing (live) at that point. Anton was playing
with the Lounge Lizards, doing live shows. He just called up and said "I quit the band." Then Stiff took that that opportunity to drop the
band. One song "The Obediant Atom" was pretty similar to "40 Days" on the first Wake Ooloo record. I think we only had a couple of
songs. We really weren't ready to do another record anyway. It was kind of relief actually.


Has anyone ever heard this!!!??? The demo they made for Stiff???

Does it still exist? Holy Toledo!

And does anyone know why there has never been an actual Smithereens soundtrack released??!!! Was there ever a bootleg??

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 26 July 2004 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

The Undertow on Only Life is their best song ever!

David Allen (David Allen), Monday, 26 July 2004 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

unreleased feelies recordings?! holy shit, i just creamed my jeans.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 02:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Doesn't seem like this has ever surfaced. Here's a Feelies bootleg page with no mention of these tapes. Does mention a 45 minute Trypes demos tape!

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 03:26 (seventeen years ago) link

The Trypes ep is fantastic. One of them released a solo single of a song that would be on the Yung Wu record record and it's even better. The Yung Wu record is better then the Wake Ooloo record, last I listened. Anyone who thinks the later albums are boring REM stuff NEED to listen. There's stuff on the Good Earth that's more frenetic and angsty then anything on Crazy Rhythms, just arranged differently. It's reall more of the same thing but even better songs in many cases.

Anyone with info on those early bootlegs please let me know. I've wanted to hear that stuff for years and years. I heard they were really punky originally. Slipping Into Something from 1977? Damn.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 06:51 (seventeen years ago) link

classic classic classic.
_Crazy rhythms_ is one of the best albums ever - well, almost.
I'd really like to listen to some live stuff (I heard they did _Marquee Moon_) and I love that silly cover of _Fame_ they played on _Something Wild_.

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 07:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I will join in the involuntary skeet explusion over the possibility of hearing this stuff.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Some aspiring record label should re-issue their records, as I think all but "Crazy Rhythms" is out of print.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

A box-set would be nice. With live and unreleased stuff. Does anyone know any rich people?

They were so good live. I saw them open for REM, Lou Reed, and 2 or 3 times in Philly by themselves and they were always wonderful.

I used to have a great bootleg video of a show in new york where either Bill or Glenn (i can't remember who) got sick and had to run off the stage to throw up and they did the rest of the show without him. Even that was great.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

love love love the feelies and they could be amazing live , play half the songs double time and yer just wiped by the end of the concert. worked on a show with them in 89 where they came out and did 6 3 song encores - basically another full set!

only life is good but i find i actually play good earth much more.

H (Heruy), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

always suspected they were better live than on record.
and how great great great is _moscow nights_?

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

haha I just played that on my radio show a half hour ago!

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

anthony miccio, you have good taste. :)

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

The Good Earth is their best album but it's one of those records that sounds worlds better at certain times of the year, in this case in the fall. The first album is great too, especially "Forces at Work."

Burr (Burr), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I will state my love for the Feelies here so you can all think more highly of me.

artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I really do love the Feelies.

artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Not the greatest singers or songwriters, maybe, but still a classic band. The way I always WISHED R.E.M. sounded, tho I didn't hear the Feelies until several years later. I imagine they'd be great in concert. Excellent taste in covers, doing '60s songs THEIR way. Plus, anal types like me wish that more bands did that Eno/Feelies instrumental inventory thing, recounting which bandmember played wood blocks and who played "snake guitar" and "galloping guitar" and so on. (Then again, I suppose MBV-types wouldn't want to reveal their secrets.) And has there ever been an uncooler-looking bunch than the one on the cover of Crazy Rhythms? Well, maybe; but still: Classic!

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Some aspiring record label should re-issue their records, as I think all but "Crazy Rhythms" is out of print.

I've been doing my best to get the word out on one of the better kept secretly not out-of-print albums: The Good Earth is in print, via Twin/Tone records. It's on custom burned CD (not CDR) and sounds great. You don't get the cover art...boo hoo. Also available is the Yung Wu album (never before on CD) and that EP that came after The Good Earth. If memory serves, the website is twintone.com.

They were probably my favorite live band of all time.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

great band. great guitar sound.

amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

"better kept secretly" no idea what that means. It's a well kept secret that this album is still available.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

That Twin/Tone bullshit doesn't count, though. They need to reissue these records proper.

Totally classic. The best New Jersey nerd rock nervous nitwit band ever.

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Not sure why it's bullshit. It's a CD, it's a better transfer than the original, and it's cheap. Is a cover booklet that important?

Except for their lousy job of publicising this, it's a great way to keep a back catalog available that might not justify a new printing.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

It does justify a new printing.

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

morally or financially?

dlp9001, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa, 45 minutes of Trypes demos?? I always figured there were just the four songs on _The Explorers Hold_ and "A Plan Revised."

I have the potential of being a total Deadhead when it comes to Feelies live/demos. Someone really ought to initiate a Dicks Picks-esque series.

mike a, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I got into the Feelies in college thanks to my friends in Spiral Jetty, whose _Tour of Homes_ EP was produced by Million & Mercer. (Get this EP if you ever see it - it's practically a fifth Feelies album.) I must have seen the Feelies two dozen times throughout the '80s. Thinking about it now, they may have been my all-time favorite live act. Wake Ooloo and The Sunburst just don't fill the gap.

mike a, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

They don't compare to the Feelies, but I was kind of pleasantly surprised by a couple of the Sunburst songs on their webpage. Worth downloading for free, at least.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, they're good - you can't go really wrong with the Baumgartner/Mercer/Paruta/Demeski lineup. I guess I really want to hear "From The Morning Glories" live.

mike a, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I got into the Feelies in college thanks to my friends in Spiral Jetty, whose _Tour of Homes_ EP was produced by Million & Mercer.

St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i mean, i think crazy rhythms is OOP, too. very recently, though - recent enough that after i saw that it wasnt in print last year, i went on a wild internet search, and bought one on walmart's website that mustve been languoring in some warehouse somewhere.

but OMG classic times a million. i like some of the good earth stuff, but anton fier makes the band for me, and so crazy rhythms is the only one thats really brilliant. nonetheless, that is more than enough to get them such highly classic status in my book.

funny that theres a dB's and feelies c/d resurrected in the same day - by the same person? i got into those two groups in the same month or so...

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

morally or financially?

Both.

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I got into the Feelies in college thanks to my friends in Spiral Jetty, whose _Tour of Homes_ EP was produced by Million & Mercer.
-- St. Nicholas (naamm...), July 27th, 2004 2:16 PM. (later)

WTF? This cut out my entire second sentence. I said: "Weird. One of the guys from Spiral Jetty was a professor at William & Mary when I was there. They had a minireunion show on campus."

St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

morally or financially?
Both.
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Twin Tone's accountants apparently disagree with part of that. Probably worth noting the sales figures on the Twin Tone site. If you can convince them that they're sitting on a gold mine, though, more power to you.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

as a small label guy, I think there is still good reason to put out CDs. I also think when you limit how much you release and put a lot of work into promoting a small catalog, you have a better chance at making your money back. When you're trying to promote 300 bands, it's a different ballgame. If the entire Feelies catalog was out of print and I managed to get the rights to license, each CD would come out with lots of press, in a relatively small amount(probably smaller then TwinTone would press.) However, taking advantage of iTunes and internet sales, and adequate promotion, that small amount would be easily available all over the world. In other words, do I think we'd make our money back on releasing the Feelies stuff? With love and devotion and time, absolutely. TwinTone just seems set in the idea that the CD will be dead shortly and they say they want to be on the cutting edge of digital delivery. Not sure what they see as the failings of iTunes, plenty of other labels seem to have accepted it.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

They are pretty much defunkt aren't they? I think all they are doing is selling catalog stuff. Probably no time or energy to bother w/anything else.

artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan's right. I can think of 100 'post-punk' or whatever reissues that have been released in the last year or two that sell reasonably well and that are not nearly as good as the Feelies records. Should be available in stores and such in my opinion. I just think Twin/Tone is doing a poor job. If they won't release it, they should let someone else release it.

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

well they are letting people release some stuff, much of the "big" names are being licensed to Restless or whomever. They seem to have the music and the artists best interests in mind, but are, like everyone else, genuinely confused about what's going to happen in the next few years. Selling custom CDs without the art is kinda funny though, in a time when everyone else is trying to say that the art is one reason to NOT download the damn thing!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Terrible posting, indeed. Turrican, take note.

― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Wednesday, March 21, 2018 2:52 AM (fourteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha, this is incredibly rich coming from you!

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 17:15 (four years ago) link


when a band has awesome titles, it’s cited as a mark in their favor

I have literally never heard or seen this happen, ever.


Ha, this is incredibly rich coming from you!

Figures the best you could do was, "I know you are but what am I?"

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 17:30 (four years ago) link

please take board beefs off of the feelies thread — this band has already been confirmed as totally classic, anyone who argues differently is wrong.

tylerw, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 17:33 (four years ago) link

Which one?

― dan selzer, Wednesday, March 21, 2018 7:48 AM (two hours ago)

The one with the house on the cover, and the cover of VU's "What Goes On" on the album.

(Also - no beef here, I don't know who that guy is...)

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 17:47 (four years ago) link

Their first turned up in my local Oxfam. £1.99. Was dancin'

Mark G, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 17:57 (four years ago) link

If anything, the Feelies have such an unimpeachable band name that the quality of their song titles are all but irrelevant. Honestly, the only reason I'd expect them to be more distinctive (lately; first album has classic song titles!) is that it might get hard as an old guy to remember anything so generic.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 18:34 (four years ago) link

idk there's maybe something to that. Crazy Rhythms has a very intriguing sleeve + tracklisting. the other albums I'd never give a second look to. I think The Sea and Cake are sort of like this as well.

frogbs, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 18:40 (four years ago) link

It's not like the band gets radio play, or even ever gets covered or anything. I think of the Feelies at this point like a big block entity. When I want to hear them I just put them on, I don't put them on for a specific song. I just press play and let them play.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 18:43 (four years ago) link

Figures the best you could do was, "I know you are but what am I?"
― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Wednesday, March 21, 2018 5:30 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You're such a charmer, Austin. No wonder your wife left you.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 18:44 (four years ago) link

Another thread please. Before someone's feelies are hurt

Evan, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 19:18 (four years ago) link

Ah, it's okay - I'm done here. I maybe should check out a Feelies record, though!

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 19:22 (four years ago) link

I don't get what's going on. (kinda like Lou Reed). I figured this is one of those threads where the "D" is like a joke, like saying "Music: C or D".

Go listen to the first two albums back to back, then listen to the Trypes and Yung Wu albums, before making any judgements!

dan selzer, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 20:06 (four years ago) link

Well, sorry for any bad vibes; I thought I was well within the bounds of a C or D thread, but maybe wasn't worth it.

FWIW, I'm listening to "Crazy Rhythms" right now (one I hadn't heard)... the rhythms aren't all that crazy, but it's sounding good while I work!

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 20:22 (four years ago) link

don't worry your post had very little to do w/the turrican/austin beef which i now know is a thing apparantly

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 20:24 (four years ago) link

It isn't a thing at all. Austin took a completely unprovoked pop and I reacted is all, but I don't want to fill this thread full of stuff like that, and on the plus side I'm gonna check out a Feelies record.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 20:28 (four years ago) link

feelies are very fun!

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 20:32 (four years ago) link

A good band imo

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 20:44 (four years ago) link

A very good band indeed

brimstead, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 21:30 (four years ago) link

the other albums I'd never give a second look to. I think The Sea and Cake are sort of like this as well.

― frogbs, Wednesday, March 21, 2018 2:40 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i like a lot of the sea and cake artwork, but it is pretty funny that they now have albums called "Everybody" and "Any Day"

mizzell, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 21:56 (four years ago) link

yea my first reaction to that title is "wtf they used that one already"

frogbs, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 22:00 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/the-feelies-played-three-nights-at-rough-trade-pics-setlists-videos/
Great setlists..

They were selling the Yung Wu reissue, anyone here went and got one?

willem, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 14:59 (four years ago) link

I got one in the mail.

it came a bit damaged which was a bummer!

They did include the original Dave Weckerman single....but for some reason did it as both songs on one side of a flexidisc, instead of repressing the actual single.

They shoulda also included a download code for the Yung Wu covers CD-R they've occasional sold but alas.

Regardless, for some reason I always used to consider Yung Wu the lesser of the three major groupings but the more I listen to it the more I realize I was an idiot and it's as good as everything else and different enough and at times more what I want to hear! Those songs are sooooo good.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 15:07 (four years ago) link

yeah it really is a classic

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 15:08 (four years ago) link

Plus, especially at the time, the Eno cover was the deepest of cuts.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 15:09 (four years ago) link

even "child of the moon" was probably a pretty deep cut in the 80s ... (powderfinger not so much, but it's still awesome)

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 15:14 (four years ago) link

I was at the shows but didn't pick up the Yung Wu reissue because I have one on order.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 02:06 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Don't know anything about the Yardbirds, really, but I was struck by a loose resemblance here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDabDDEDcME

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 June 2018 20:47 (four years ago) link

nice

dan selzer, Monday, 4 June 2018 21:52 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

First Wake Ooloo album reissued, first time it's available on vinyl.

willem, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 12:57 (two years ago) link

Fitting that this announcement is made on the eve of the anniversary of their traditional Maxwell's shows.

henry s, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:42 (two years ago) link

would love to get that, but jeez at the price tag. i don't have any of these albums what a poseur i am.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 18:02 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

From Dromedary, which sports a lot of venerable hipsters' releases, incl new stuff---dunno how much actual Feelies input this latest single has, but might be worth checking:
Another beautiful song from the wildly inventive series of monthly pandemic releases from Speed the Plough, our first release with the band since the 2011 CD Shine. STP is a NJ chamber-pop band that has been together since 1984, rising out of the ashes of The Trypes. At various points, Speed the Plough has included most members of The Feelies. They're joined here with guest vocals by Mayssa Jallad of the Beirut-based band Safar, along with guitar contributions from Matt Davis (The Campfire Flies) and bass from Dan Francia.
Stream it here:
http://dromedary-records.com/news/out-today-broken-glass

dow, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:57 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

So I drunkenly bought tickets to see the Feelies in November, thinking we were going to be in at least a non-catastrophic place re: the pandemic this fall. My thinking has changed and I’m not inclined to undertake an international trip at the moment.

I’ve cancelled my flights, but the tic are non-refundable. Anyone want discounted tix for the show on Nov 6 in Jersey City?

"The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Monday, 4 October 2021 16:46 (eight months ago) link

eight months pass...

looking forward to this in the new Maggot Brain, by a learned Feelies scholar: ...a big in-depth, lyrical feature on the Feelies ambient offshoot who have never been written on in-depth. The band’s connection to Downtown minimalism has never been written on this way, and basically you will for the first time understand how the band morphed from the first record into the second, and at least part of why there was so much time in between. We’re not worthy!

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 23 June 2022 15:27 (one week ago) link

hey that learned Feelies scholar ... is me! i had wanted someone to write this story for awhile, but no one else would do it. I think feelies heads will like it.

tylerw, Thursday, 23 June 2022 15:38 (one week ago) link

oh wow that sounds cool

dan selzer, Thursday, 23 June 2022 15:45 (one week ago) link

ha yeah i saw that was you tyler (i'm never sure who is ok with having their irl byline referenced & who is not.) great idea for a piece, i never got around to that Willies stuff & am excited to learn about it

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 23 June 2022 16:30 (one week ago) link

there are a few recordings to check out here — i love this stuff (obviously). https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/tagged/the%20willies

tylerw, Thursday, 23 June 2022 18:46 (one week ago) link

Yeah, I got the idea from some of sets you've posted there over the years, of the Feelies x recombinant combo iterations, about the band’s connection to Downtown minimalism, and thought of it again while recently reading Tim Lawrence's awesome Hold On to Your Dreams: Arthur Russell and the Downtown Music Scene, 1973-1992: Arthur totally upset the minimalist apple cart by booking The Modern Lovers at the Kitchen, and then he and Ernie Brooks upset other applecarts, incl. indie rock ones, over the years---and that was only one vein of Arthur's own rock-times-this-and-that extensions (also, though he says he was shocked when Arthur brought in the Lovers, Rhys Chatham also says that was what eventually led him to the composition of "Guitar Trio" and working with Branca in Theoretical Girls, while others, like Peter Gordon and Julius Eastman, were encouraged to bring their own pop-rock-etc. tendencies out of the avant closet).
Could totally see Arthur (considering his jangly singer-songwriter albums, for one kind of example) working with members of the Feelies family, though apparently he didn't (who knows what may turn up, though). Maybe he and they encouraged each other by example, anyway.

dow, Thursday, 23 June 2022 19:27 (one week ago) link

yeah I don't think the Feelies and Russell ever interacted in a meaningful way but I'm sure they were aware of one another. Details in the Maggot Brain piece, but one of the Willies' first live appearances was at this massive Kitchen 10th anniversary thing at Bonds Casino in Times Square, which probably deserves its own huge oral history.

https://gallery.98bowery.com/wp-content/uploads/kitchen10-662x1024.jpg

tylerw, Thursday, 23 June 2022 21:48 (one week ago) link

Chatham didn’t play with a theoretical Girls. His lost no wave rock band was the Gyneacologists with Nina Canal I think.

dan selzer, Thursday, 23 June 2022 22:32 (one week ago) link

lol at VEDO (an anagram)

mizzell, Thursday, 23 June 2022 22:47 (one week ago) link

whooo could it be???

tylerw, Thursday, 23 June 2022 22:49 (one week ago) link

Danny DeVedo

I think it was DOVE (the Band of Love)?!?

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:06 (one week ago) link

xxx[post, sorry, that was my bad, not Lawrence's. He does make the point, with my brain filling in rong detail, that Chatham and Branca took the rock thing in a massively high-volume direction (in some contrast to other downtown peers),after serpent Arthur brought it to the Kitchen's Garden of Eden (also says that Arthur, as he got more into using effects on his cello, became fascinated with "certain metal guitarists": wha, were they too dorky to name?)

dow, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:28 (one week ago) link

Most of the artists on that 10th Anniversary poster are in the book!

dow, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:32 (one week ago) link

re: chatham could be confusion with Jeffrey Lohn, the third of the extended minimalist guitar rock thing. Jeffrey and Glenn formed Theoretical Girls, all three came from art music backgrounds (and theater), Jeffrey heard the Dead Boys and things were never the same.

dan selzer, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:24 (one week ago) link

Chatham didn’t play with a theoretical Girls. His lost no wave rock band was the Gyneacologists with Nina Canal I think.

― dan selzer, Thursday, June 23, 2022 5:32 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

iirc he also collaborated with Nina's father, Bert

budo jeru, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:18 (one week ago) link


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