Jackson Browne - C or D?

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I was listening to 'Late For The Sky' today, which I remembered as having two good songs at the start and the rest being rubbish. Actually the rest is pretty good - kind of cheesy in a way but I can't help but like it.

Stil seems kind of a guilty pleasure though. So what do we think of the man?

Ally C, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmmmm. I've always imagined that a Brit would react to Jackson Browne the same way some of us Yanks react to Billy Bragg. Similar mix of love songs and political songs, though in an unfamiliar context (why would someone in London care about Southern California or Iran-Contra, anymore than someone in New York would care about the Red Wedge or the northern miner's strike). Even some guilt-by- association (Bragg picked up a guitar after a Clash concert, Browne wrote songs for the Eagles). But essentially a curiosity.

I've nothing against Browne -- seems to be a nice enough guy. But his music is a little too bland, too Southern California-Seventies for my taste. So I'll just shut up now.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I was thinking of his love songs, I'm not so much aware of his political stuff. And I like some of Bragg's love songs but can't really stand his political ones.

Yes, the music is bland, but that somehow appealed to me today, it was easy, and sweet, and sad. Does this mean I'm getting old ?

Ally C, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Early stuff definitely classic... Springsteen took the mantle from him around 77 and never looked back... i still cringe when i recollect that "lawyers in love" song and schlocky video...

Phong Wiedermeier, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

What's this stuff I've been hearing about him being mean to Darryl Hannah?

"Lawyers in Love": thoroughly underrated anti-Reagan screed with absurd falsetto parts. I think only Dave Marsh takes it seriously, but don't let that put you off.

Michael Daddino, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Have heard nothing of his except "running on empty" BUT deserves classic status for writing my 2nd fav song evah, Nico's "These Days".

electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

While we're on Jackson Browne and Nico, I think "The Fairest of the Seasons" would make a good salsa song. Something about the melody seems to be suited for such a treatment.

I'm not that familiar with Jackson Browne beyond the hits, but I think some of the hits are pretty good.

DeRayMi, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'd forgotten all about the Jackson Browne-Nico connection. I think that he was also friendly with Lou Reed during the VU days. Not that there's even a trace of the VU in Browne's music, mind you.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I hadn't realized there was any connection to Nico, until I got around to buying "Chelsea Girls" last Spring. (I'm not sure it was such a good purchase, actually. I find myself laughing at Nico's singing more than I think I am probably expected to.)

DeRayMi, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Allegedly he thumped Daryl more than once -- I think it must be the Orange County in him seeping out. The Neil Young for people who hated all that noise? Is Running on Empty the Rust Never Sleeps for unreconstructed cokeheads who bought everything on Asylum?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I imagine two cokeheads at the Dew Drop Inn, LAX, circa 1977 (both sweating profusely) discussing a third - "He's weird, man, he's into Warren Zevon"

dave q, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Noteworthy only for writing a couple of songs for Nico and for giving David Lindley a job.

Chris Barrus, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

He always seemed awfully mild-mannered; even his more rocking stuff was very polite. But yes, his songs for Nico are lovely; "Chelsea Girl" is a gorgeous album.

Sean, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
haven't heard much of Browne's early albums, and "Lawyers in Love" is unquestionably awful...

but "The Load Out/Stay" off the Running on Empty album is simply one of the best things I have ever heard, as well as the ultimate "drive home after a long night of drinking" song in my lifetime.

"A thousand miles away from here, people stay just a little bit longer..."

Ryan, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Mostly, dud. One of my favorite movie moments is the viewing of the mall, in FAST TIMES AT RIDGEMONT HIGH, set to his "Someone's Baby Tonight" (is that the title?). I don't know why, it just remains in my mind. He had a few good tunes, mostly early on. Lotsa people still like him! Mostly older people!

Matt Riedl (veal), Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...
I'll say classic, with really obvious limitations and he only really works with those distinctive folky L.A. studio arrangements. He has a weakness for the Big Metaphor, and yet his songs do contain little truths and insights and genuinely poetic moments, and at his best he's pretty catchy. His gifts as a melodist seem to have been largely exhausted by his first two records (which largely comprised songs he'd written some years before), although Late for the Sky has probably the most impressive set of lyrics.

His taking personal offense at Punk and continuing to disparage it is very dud, however.

He dated Nico at age 17 (or thereabouts), you know.

amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 28 July 2003 18:37 (sixteen years ago) link

the "Late for the Sky" scene is my favorite scene in Taxi Driver, so classic just for that.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 28 July 2003 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link

What is that scene?

amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 28 July 2003 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link

it's toward the end, where Travis is watching "American Bandstand" by himself, idly toying with his gun, aiming it at the screen, setting it down. it's only about a minute long.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 28 July 2003 18:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think I've heard one single from Jackson Browne that wasn't pure gold. I really, really like this guy, much more than most of the 70's singer/songwriters, and almost as much as Carole King.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Monday, 28 July 2003 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

dudes, "these days" was written for the nitty gritty dirtband and predated nico's version by a good year (?).

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 28 July 2003 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Tony Danza stole his hair.

Kris (aqueduct), Monday, 28 July 2003 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

"Somebody's Baby" is cool. Punk sucks anyway!

dave q, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 07:35 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...
Listened last night to his 1st LP. Most of it begs to be used as soundtrack. Under the Falling Sky is pretty classic.

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link

With all my talk about Nico above, I forgot to confess that I like "Doctor My Eyes" a whole lot.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I'll give him props for producing David Lindley's awesome El Rayo-X and providing good back-ups thereon.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

i really do like that first LP a lot, when i'm in the mood for it

amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
Can there be a better coke album than 'running on empty'? Or even a better album so shamelessly devoted to a single narcotic?

fancybill, Thursday, 25 November 2004 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha I looked at this and thought 'hmm I wonder who started this thread' and then it was me! Unbelievable! I should listen to more JB.

Ally C (Ally C), Friday, 26 November 2004 00:47 (fifteen years ago) link

The Best of Boney M: shamelessly devoted to triptophan. My mom's had it on repeat all day.

giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 26 November 2004 01:23 (fifteen years ago) link

i was thinking about jackson browne today. actually i was thinking about one of his lines (i forget which) and it made me cringe. but i like him.

ok wait i think the lines were "you've heard that hollow sound/of your own steps in flight." what a precious-precious line.

amateur!!st, Friday, 26 November 2004 06:13 (fifteen years ago) link

i also like "somebody's baby" even though it makes me sad for some reason.

amateur!!st, Friday, 26 November 2004 06:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i guess in part because the song is superficially jaunty but the sentiment expressed in it is such a self-defeating, pathetic one. the point of view of a stranger and all that.

amateur!!st, Friday, 26 November 2004 06:22 (fifteen years ago) link

amateurist, are you drunk?

my mom has a lot of jackson browne records.. guessing by this thread, i should steal "running on empty." which others are worthwhile?

Ian John50n (orion), Friday, 26 November 2004 06:26 (fifteen years ago) link

no, that's not such a good one. you want to get the first, self-titled record.

i am not drunk, unless one can get drunk on turkey and peach cobbler.

amateur!!st, Friday, 26 November 2004 06:28 (fifteen years ago) link

there's a hilariously bitchy melzer bit about browne and nico, but I can't find it online anymore. i think it's the same piece where he bitches about a teenage cameron crowe taking a shit at his place and not flushing.

g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 26 November 2004 07:22 (fifteen years ago) link

wow, sounds great [/deep sarcasm]

amateur!!st, Friday, 26 November 2004 07:22 (fifteen years ago) link

haha ok i'm totally misremembering everything, stop presses, it WAS NOT c crowe who did not flush. here it is: http://condor.depaul.edu/~dweinste/rock/meltzer-afrev.html

Ah, the gang: I knew it well. I'd had an encounter with one of its thugs, see, and in the process got tossed by said mag for telling what was it?, oh yes, the truth. This was '72. After several false starts, Jackson Browne finally had an album out, which seemed a good occasion to bring to light some interesting hokum from his past--I'd known the mutha since '67. So I did the first feature on him for Rolling Stone or anywhere else--a rave, for crying out loud, and he freaking hated it, thought it made him look "too punk." And what might be so wrong with that? Before twelve people knew who the fuck he was, he was like some weird-isn't-the-word cross between the Young Marble Giants, say--or from a later universe: Cat Power--and Byron or Shelley. On his first visit to New York, he backed up (and horizontal-danced with) the fabulous NICO, had a connection to Lou Reed and the Warhol crowd, blah blah blooey. So I talked all this stuff up--what the hey--it was what I thought would make him MOST APPEALING. And he's so upset he gets Asylum Records prez David Geffen to call the Stone and have me booted, good riddance, don't come back.

Four years later, I was eating at South Town Soul Food in L.A. when Jackson walked in with gang-sister number one Linda Ronstadt. Not wanting her exposed to my cooties, he motions for her to stay put, struts over, sits down, and in less than a minute explains to me how it is. "We singer-songwriters"--he always relished being part of something (but imagine calling yourself such hogwipe)--"feel we get a better shake from this Cameron kid...he never challenges us...accepts our side of the story...we don't have to worry what he'll say...no offense, but..." I.e., writers exist to write-about-musicians, bub...so go wash dishes or something.

poor thing.

g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 26 November 2004 07:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Ahh, just put on 'Late for the Sky' so classic in a mildly boring kinda way.

Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Friday, 26 November 2004 09:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Steal 'Late For The Sky' & 'The Pretender'

Mooro (Mooro), Friday, 26 November 2004 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

i like somebody's baby too - always reminds me of "fast times at ridgemont high"

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 26 November 2004 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

(a) i don't believe that story
(b) meltzer must be the most annoying writer i've encountered in months
(c) he uses the phrase "horizontal dance" which means he no longer exists to me

amateur!!st, Friday, 26 November 2004 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I think 'horizontal dance' was shelved at last sec as the title for JB's Hits...
None of em are completely NOT boring. Running on Empty is mostly(?) live and therefore a little more world-weary/leery -probably too punk in this sense.
'Late' is slick!

fancybill, Friday, 26 November 2004 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Lots of comments here on the Jackson songs recorded by Nico on Chelsea Girls, plus Meltzer's comments on Jackson's early songs. There was a double LP acetate album produced in '67 as a songwriting demo album. Jackson has never released the stuff, but it has been bootlegged as the Nina Demos. I think Meltzer's comments are a little over the top--there's a saccharine element to some of these songs--but I swear there are like fifteen or more songs on the thing that are as good as those three songs on Chelsea Girls.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 31 January 2005 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

how does that material compare to the nitty gritty dirt band's first record?

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 31 January 2005 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, the NGDB had their old-timey music material and then they had those kind of baroque pop versions of Jackson songs and Steve Noonan/Greg Copeland songs. The Nina Demos are just Jackson on acoustic guitar.

Steve Noonan's Elektra album is worth hearing. Meltzer has some things about it in Aesthetics of Rock.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 31 January 2005 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Cover photo by Linda Eastman.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 31 January 2005 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...
i recently rediscovered the first (and best) jackson browne lp, and it is really good.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 05:23 (fourteen years ago) link

ahh... Saturate When Using... There are some cool tunes on that one. I think it's time for me to revive my obsession with 70s California Asylum/Geffen rock...
Or I might pull out the last Wilson Philips album

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 07:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't get the hate towards "Lawyers in Love." Great pastiche of doo-wop, good guitar work, and Jackson shows that he's got a sense of humor!

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 12:36 (fourteen years ago) link

ok wait i think the lines were "you've heard that hollow sound/of your own steps in flight." what a precious-precious line.

quoting this v v old post to say i think this is an incredible lyric

― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, February 26, 2015 2:49 AM (1 year ago)

an ilxor mentioned this line on his FB page recently and yes this is a devastating piece of writing imo

k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 July 2016 20:42 (three years ago) link

I love this song, but I don't see the full magic in any one line in particular. It takes a lot of words for him to get at what he's describing, but it's the whole analysis of his experience that I love:

But when you see through love's illusions, there lies the danger
And your perfect lover just looks like a perfect fool
So you go running off in search of a perfect stranger
While the loneliness seems to spring from your life
Like a fountain from a pool

veggie sticks potato snacks (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 21:14 (three years ago) link

Maybe I'll try again. His voice tends me to vague me out pretty quickly. But always loved Bonnie Raitt's versions of "Under The Falling Sky" and "I Thought I Was A Child"---did she do any more of his? A whole album of Bonnie Sings Jackson would be a definitive Boomer move, but/and I'd buy it (maybe not even wait for the NPR pledge drive). Equally definitive: Nico, "These Days."

dow, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 21:29 (three years ago) link

Oh yeah, and his own performance of the epic "You Know The Night" on Note of Hope, where various artists provide new music for words from W.Guthrie's notebooks, diaries, letters, telephone pads etc---this is a 14 minute setting (there's also ace 4-minute "Radio Edit") of G.'s note to self after meeting Marjorie, his next wife and mother of Nora, Arlo etc. Browne said he wrote out the whole thing on loose pages and set them up around the room while he was recording, maybe writing too. Another artist's inspired verbosity rang a bell!

dow, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 21:38 (three years ago) link

But when you see through love's illusions, there lies the danger

I'm surprised this fusspot didn't write "therein."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 21:39 (three years ago) link

ha, alfred, your take on Jackson itt completely baffles me!

veggie sticks potato snacks (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 21:42 (three years ago) link

It baffles me too.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 21:49 (three years ago) link

Three songs are all I need for my Browne fix: "Lawyers in Love" on the political end, "In the Shape of a Heart" for L-O-V-E, and "Running on Empty" for '70s angst.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, January 24, 2006 12:27 PM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean you are completely right that these are the best songs ever

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 22:57 (three years ago) link

it's possible i mentioned in some other jb thread that i saw him live in orlando last year and "in the shape of a heart" was particularly incredible

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 23:00 (three years ago) link

People speak of love don't know what they're thinking of

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 23:08 (three years ago) link

xxp they are good songs, but I'd take the first 4 albums over them

veggie sticks potato snacks (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 23:21 (three years ago) link

gotta do what you can to keep your love alive

brimstead, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 23:26 (three years ago) link

I know "These Days" has been mentioned a number of times but I really love his original


reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 23:29 (three years ago) link

The '67 demo:


timellison, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 05:01 (three years ago) link


timellison, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 05:32 (three years ago) link

beautiful '67 demo

can't believe he came up with (most of?) it at age 16

niels, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 09:38 (three years ago) link

i think browne was a better melodist than a lyricist, actually

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 21 July 2016 00:59 (three years ago) link

most of his lyrics from his 'confessional' period -- the ones that sing well -- don't really add up to much IMO. they are often either needlessly vague or just break down into banalities. he did hit a few out of the park, though.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 21 July 2016 01:00 (three years ago) link

this song's pretty flawless


wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 21 July 2016 01:01 (three years ago) link

I love the electric strummin'.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 July 2016 01:12 (three years ago) link

never heard the demo! nice

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 21 July 2016 05:09 (three years ago) link

Somebody's Baby is anything I could want in a song, so good

it's from Fast Times at Ridgemont High OST iirc, always liked it, after getting to know Jackson from the Pretender I was happy to find out this was his song

niels, Thursday, 21 July 2016 10:58 (three years ago) link

highlight of the album


jamiesummerz, Thursday, 21 July 2016 13:58 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

um, so 'The Pretender' the song - I always thought of it as a personal song of, I dunno, existential ambivalence... but according to this 'article' "Browne is writing about a guy who could easily be described as a yuppie"


can we all agree this is bullshit or should I change my view on this song?

niels, Saturday, 21 January 2017 10:09 (three years ago) link

well, I'm glad Jackson himself is well aware of the complexity of the songs protagonist


niels, Saturday, 21 January 2017 10:27 (three years ago) link

It's a beautiful and complex song.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Saturday, 21 January 2017 10:32 (three years ago) link

love these two dudes in the audience as Browne starts the piano riff:


niels, Saturday, 21 January 2017 11:30 (three years ago) link

also, thx MFB :)

in the intro to this one he 'dedicates' it to a session player


niels, Saturday, 21 January 2017 12:14 (three years ago) link

(not a v good video apart from that, sry 4 embed)

niels, Saturday, 21 January 2017 12:20 (three years ago) link

can we all agree this is bullshit or should I change my view on this song?

it's a very complex song and you should probably change your view

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 21 January 2017 12:28 (three years ago) link

with every listen

niels, Saturday, 21 January 2017 12:36 (three years ago) link

yuppies are very complex people!

schrute dwyte (unregistered), Saturday, 21 January 2017 13:11 (three years ago) link

He's poet laureate of yuppies, don't forget.


who even are those other cats (Eazy), Saturday, 21 January 2017 17:15 (three years ago) link


Last night I watched the news from Washington, the capital
The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them, like Russians will
Now we've got all this room
We've even got the moon
And I hear the USSR will be open soon
As vacation land for lawyers in love

who even are those other cats (Eazy), Saturday, 21 January 2017 17:20 (three years ago) link

I was about to say!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 January 2017 17:31 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

this morning's Times:

"When Professor Jackson-Brown began teaching in the 1990s, most students respected her authority. But in recent years, that deference has waned (she blames the informality of social media). “I go out of my way now to not give them access to my first name,” she said. “On every syllabus, it states clearly: ‘Please address me as Professor Jackson-Brown.’ ”"

Swag Heathen (theStalePrince), Sunday, 14 May 2017 13:14 (two years ago) link

Late For Class

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 14 May 2017 16:06 (two years ago) link

two months pass...
one year passes...

Running on empty is still getting AirPlay somehow and it’s the sound of 70s exhaustion. I’m sitting in a bar in ‘76 and yeah, I’m just gonna give up ok

calstars, Sunday, 9 June 2019 23:07 (nine months ago) link

Lindley’s amazing on it tho

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 10 June 2019 04:21 (nine months ago) link

Something Fine is a gorgeous wistful tune from his first disc.

that's not my post, Monday, 10 June 2019 05:27 (nine months ago) link

Working with musicians from Haiti for his new album, according to Afropop Worldwide!

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 10 June 2019 09:35 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

I do my best.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 00:53 (eight months ago) link

p sure “I’m Alive” was a single, no?

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 02:33 (eight months ago) link

seven months pass...

Tested positive :(

the grateful dead can dance (anagram), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:33 (two weeks ago) link

mild symptoms! he did a really wonderful interview with rolling stone

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:34 (two weeks ago) link

Agreed. Rather charming and chipper.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:43 (two weeks ago) link


https://t.co/evhB3Tm5aS pic.twitter.com/goLjDSvgpJ

— Jackson Browne (@SongsofJBrowne) March 25, 2020

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:02 (two weeks ago) link

Thankfully the symptoms are very mild. If it's been this long, he's probably close to a full recovery, but he makes an excellent point about how easily it has and will spread in group settings in close quarters, even when individuals are exercising a lot of caution like swabbing mics and avoiding physical contact like handshakes.

Re: his music, first three albums have his best songwriting. The following two albums have better singing and arguably a better sound/production. After that, the albums get really spotty, but the singles are still generally good, all the way up to "The Shape of a Heart" and Little Steven's "I Am a Patriot" (which lyrically is corny, but Browne sings it with great conviction). Still wrote the occasional gem after that, like "Sky Blue and Black."

Beginning with 'Running on Empty' (where much of the material was co-written or written by someone else), his strengths as a performer (and by extension an interpreter) really began to show while his songwriting became more inconsistent and weaker.

birdistheword, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:45 (one week ago) link

booming and largely accurate post. I think the super-political stuff of the 80s has sometimes aged well -- and his gift for delivering JUST the right vocal take on even a middling song ("I'm the Cat") ascended into some ascended-master level stuff

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 26 March 2020 17:10 (one week ago) link

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