Panic At The Disco is the new generation's My Chemical Romance

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Why do all these bands sound the same indescribably annoying way?

Kids today have the weirdest genre of rock music yet. It's like a cross beetween Duran Duran and the high-pitched snare drum of Rage Against The Machine and all that metally rap shit. Deftones is the only other thing I can think of, but surely you remember the wound-tight snare drums of the 90s that sounded more like a Pringle's commercial than a rock song? Well, now combine that bouncy boyish rebellion of a fiesty snackfood commercial with the pop glamor of Duran Duran.

What the fuck have you got? Don't forget to give them all Japanese anime pointy longish blue-tipped hairdos and a little bit of eyeliner for the boys. Facial piercings apparently not boring yet, also.

I chimed in with the haven't you people ever heard of closing a god damn door no, Saturday, 24 June 2006 23:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile, they've got that longish, pointy anime "panic at the disco" / "my chemical romance" hairdo that makes me want to stick their head in the toilet.

-- :):):):):):):):):):):) Smiling Friend (:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(: (ufrendimein@gmail.com), June 25th, 2006.

.. (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Saturday, 24 June 2006 23:51 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Finally, a Panic! At The Disco thread. Bring it on, google.

Marmot 4-Tay: forth-coming, my child. forth-coming most righteous champion (mar, Saturday, 24 June 2006 23:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Don't quote me out of context. That was at least 5 minutes ago on a different thread.

:):):):):):):):):):):) Smiling Friend (:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(: (Uri Frendimein), Sunday, 25 June 2006 00:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

shut up old man

the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Sunday, 25 June 2006 00:03 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I have shut him up. He's in the closet with a ball gag and a dildo up his butt.

:):):):):):):):):):):) Smiling Friend (:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(: (Uri Frendimein), Sunday, 25 June 2006 00:04 (twelve years ago) Permalink

So, Panic! At the Disco...

Marmot 4-Tay: forth-coming, my child. forth-coming most righteous champion (mar, Sunday, 25 June 2006 00:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

This is the important part:

combine that bouncy boyish rebellion of a fiesty snackfood commercial with the pop glamor of Duran Duran.

:):):):):):):):):):):) Smiling Friend (:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(: (Uri Frendimein), Sunday, 25 June 2006 00:08 (twelve years ago) Permalink

They play their video on NewNowNext, which is like Subterranean, but gayer (it's on LOGO).

Marmot 4-Tay: forth-coming, my child. forth-coming most righteous champion (mar, Sunday, 25 June 2006 00:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

What's with all these bands having names that either are Smiths references (Pretty Girls Make Graves) or merely look like Smiths references, like Panic! At the (Death of A) Disco (Dancer)

Cunga (Cunga), Sunday, 25 June 2006 04:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

What are the other ones? Pretty Girls Make Graves is technically a Kerouac reference.

Marmot 4-Tay: forth-coming, my child. forth-coming most righteous champion (mar, Sunday, 25 June 2006 04:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

But in both cases I think "Oh, this band name reminds me of the Smiths!" and then I get sad and angry when the music doesn't.

Cunga (Cunga), Sunday, 25 June 2006 05:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I only just realized that the line "Panic at the disco" never actually appears in the Smiths song. It's "Panic on the streets of London," "Burn down the disco". Weird.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Sunday, 25 June 2006 05:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

It's like a Smiths reference crossed with an Electric 6 reference

I think they should have gone with PANIC! AT THE TACO BELL instead

Chinchilla Volapük (Captain Sleep), Sunday, 25 June 2006 05:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The real question is: why do the kids like these lame-ass bands that have names that consist of little more than violent/emo/angsty sentence fragments?

Oh, right. Because they're violent/emo/angsty.

Anyways, that lead singer dude from AFI is pretty hot for a goth chick, huh? Only the lead singer from Hawthorne Heights knows my pain.

vartman (novaheat), Sunday, 25 June 2006 05:38 (twelve years ago) Permalink

have names that consist of little more than violent/emo/angsty sentence fragments?

My friend calls all of these bands "My Confessional Thursday"

Cunga (Cunga), Sunday, 25 June 2006 05:43 (twelve years ago) Permalink

My friend calls all of these bands "My Confessional Thursday"

You're friend's as genius as all my friends who called all nu-metal bands "scary clown" bands, even though there was only one nu-metal band with a scary clown.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Sunday, 25 June 2006 16:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i dislike panic because i don't think the guy understand his own lyrics, and because i forget their songs almost immediately (with the exception of the "closing the goddamn door" bit). that said, i think my chemical romance write incredible pop songs.

robbie mackey (robbie mackey), Sunday, 25 June 2006 18:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

emo IS hair metal '06 complete with the hierarchy of bands that write shit-hot pop songs, bands that are placeholders in magazines and on tv, and the inexplicable bullshit that becomes huge, such as panic at the disco.

Bea Arthur - Lost COmic GEnius ? (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 June 2006 18:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i welcome the omnipresence.

Bea Arthur - Lost COmic GEnius ? (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 June 2006 18:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i am thinking about this all too much as i am writing an emo story AS WE TYPE.

Bea Arthur - Lost COmic GEnius ? (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 June 2006 18:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Don't forget the misogyny!

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Sunday, 25 June 2006 18:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i find the whole glam angle totally fascinating, as a dude who saw way too many bands playing this shit in dowdy thriftstore wear at vfw halls in the 90s.

Bea Arthur - Lost COmic GEnius ? (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 June 2006 18:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

antioch arrow looked kinda glam/goth on one of their records

XD (eman), Sunday, 25 June 2006 18:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

yeah but we viewed san diego as the enemy once antioch arrow went goth.

Bea Arthur - Lost COmic GEnius ? (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 June 2006 18:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

SHORT TRIP FROM THAT TO THE RAPTURE, HOLMES.

Bea Arthur - Lost COmic GEnius ? (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 June 2006 18:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

massive x-post:

one thing i don't like: nowadays, EVERYthing white middle schoolers like gets called emo. meanwhile, there are very tangible differences between underoath, fall out boy, dashboard confessional and my chemical romance. i guess my frustration is born out of the fact that since most people agree to dislike these bands (myself included in most cases) no one cares to differentiate between them.

and, yes, antioch looked way glam on the cover of gems of masochism, but in a bowie not bach kind of way.

robbie mackey (robbie mackey), Sunday, 25 June 2006 18:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

oh, gravity records, how i miss theeeeee.

robbie mackey (robbie mackey), Sunday, 25 June 2006 18:35 (twelve years ago) Permalink

xxpost:

but yeah, that's kinda what i mean about the metal thing. emo is finally enough of a broad, mainstream phenomenon to have people fighting about what it "means" on the major label level.

Bea Arthur - Lost COmic GEnius ? (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 June 2006 18:37 (twelve years ago) Permalink

is ilm reg only? i want sum googlers

XD (eman), Sunday, 25 June 2006 18:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

sadly yes.

Bea Arthur - Lost COmic GEnius ? (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 June 2006 18:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

this is the music that high school girls put on just before they invite you to ruin them for all other men

james brooks (j_brooks), Sunday, 25 June 2006 19:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

What the fuck IS these guys' aesthetic? There's some sort of CABARET aspect to it? Which is New! Wave!, I guess?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 25 June 2006 19:45 (twelve years ago) Permalink

there's a thread from a couple years ago where someone was saying "what music from 2002 will be most influential in 10 years" and i was all THE RAPTURE but not sure if this is that or this is something else.

i know some kids who are into stuff like this, but if i ask them what older-dude stuff they like they always say something like "THE CRASS" (actually, they ALWAYS say the crass!!!) and not anything i've ever heard of. asking about gravity records or DC bands gets blank looks.

the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Sunday, 25 June 2006 19:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i doubt most of these kids knowledge of "true" emo goes back much further or deeper than lifetime, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Bea Arthur - Lost COmic GEnius ? (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 June 2006 20:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Their look seems to be what would happen if you asked some vaguely nerdy high school guys to dress like the kind of people they think are "arty." They almost naturally end up looking like Robert Smith raised on the Limp Bizkit.

Cunga (Cunga), Sunday, 25 June 2006 20:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Biography by Corey Apar

Just barely out of high school, pop-punk outfit Panic! At the Disco burst out of suburban Las Vegas in 2005 with their full-length debut, A Fever You Can't Sweat Out. Taking their name from a line in Name Taken's "Panic," the group materialized when friends Spencer Smith (drums) and Ryan Ross (guitar) grew tired of covering blink-182 tunes together and thus recruited classmates Brendon Urie (guitar/vocals) and Brent Wilson (bass) to complete the quartet. Crafting pop-influenced songs with theatrical touches, quirky techno beats, and perceptive lyrics, Panic! At the Disco posted some demos online and soon caught the attention of Decaydance, the Fueled By Ramen imprint headed by Fall Out Boy's Pete Wentz. Even though the band had yet to play a live show, they were subsequently signed. With their record issued in September 2005, the guys hit the road that fall on the successful Nintendo Fusion Tour alongside Fall Out Boy, Motion City Soundtrack, Boys Night Out, and the Starting Line. As their single "I Write Sins Not Tragedies" found its way into TRL hearts (and the Top 40) by the early months of 2006, the band kept the momentum going on the road with the Academy Is..., Acceptance, and Hellogoodbye. Proving to be a popular lineup, the tour consistently sold out venues across the country. Wilson parted ways with the group mid-year; Panic! pressed on with a full summer of headlining dates around the country that culminated with appearances in Chicago at Lollapalooza and overseas at the UK's Reading and Leeds festivals.

The truly horrifying thing is that right now, a band of 8th graders is playing Panic! At The Disco covers together and they will be one of the biggest things on MTV within 5 years.

Marmot 4-Tay: forth-coming, my child. forth-coming most righteous champion (mar, Sunday, 25 June 2006 20:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Also note that they are not even cool enough to say that their name is a Smiths reference. They got their name from ANOTHER SHITTY EMO BAND.

Name Taken "Panic":

so now you hear what took you years to listen for
but still i can't make out the words
its the message that makes you miserable
but still...

burning alive from the inside
burning down
sleep now you've fallen out of face

panic at the disco
sat back and took it so slow
are you nervous? are you shaking?
save compliments to praise complation
we don't have to feel we fit in
we can move back
we can leave them


burning alive from the inside
burning down
sleep now you've fallen for me

manufactured dreams and a fabricated resolution
how can we move ahead from this backward motion?

so now you will hear what took you years to listen for
but still can't feel it

burning alive from the inside
burning down
sleep now you've fallen out of face

burning alive from the inside
burning down
sleep now you've fallen for me

manufactured dreams and a fabricated resolution
how can we move ahead from this backward motion?
panic panic
panic panic

Marmot 4-Tay: forth-coming, my child. forth-coming most righteous champion (mar, Sunday, 25 June 2006 21:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Not giving two shits about the band's look, or their place in the emo time-space continuum, I bought the album. It's a fun record, equal parts "Basket Case" and "Love Cats" (Fred Durst is mercifully absent in this equation), and I definitely got my ten-dollars-minus-a-penny's worth.

I can think of exponentially worse things that the kids could be into.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Sunday, 25 June 2006 22:39 (twelve years ago) Permalink

you could? like what??

CDDB (Dan Deluca), Monday, 26 June 2006 02:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Father raping.

Marmot 4-Tay: forth-coming, my child. forth-coming most righteous champion (mar, Monday, 26 June 2006 03:00 (twelve years ago) Permalink

thug is not worse than PATD

electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Monday, 26 June 2006 03:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

god almighty thank you tantrum for making me NOT the only person to support panic on ilm. it's a fun pop record! sorry they look funny!

(and yes i know their lyrics can be a touch on the... um... obnoxiously self-aware side. i think falling in love with 'from under the cork tree' last year helped me get past that lololol)

anyway, PATD arent too bad. i get the impression that a lot of the haters haven't paid any attention beyond the frustratingly bad videos for 'i write sins' and 'but its better if you do'

(just my 2 cents for now. i'll chime in [hah] again tomorrow once i get to work and this thread has grown to 200+ new answers, as every pop-punk thread seems to)

nervous (cochere), Monday, 26 June 2006 05:06 (twelve years ago) Permalink

and by "arent too bad" i mean "released one of my top 20 records of 2005"

nervous (cochere), Monday, 26 June 2006 05:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

lest anyone get confused re: where i stand on this issue

nervous (cochere), Monday, 26 June 2006 05:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i'd be interested to see which bands fall where in jess' hierarchy

nervous (cochere), Monday, 26 June 2006 05:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Their look seems to be what would happen if you asked some vaguely nerdy high school guys to dress like the kind of people they think are "arty." They almost naturally end up looking like Robert Smith raised on the Limp Bizkit.

Hah!

vartman (novaheat), Monday, 26 June 2006 05:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

1. They are better than She Wants Revenge.
2. They took a band I genuinely like (The Dresden Dolls) out on tour with them.
3. "I Write Sins Not Tragedies" is less annoying than some of the other emo bands on MTV that are somediocre I can't be bothered to remember their names.
That's the best I can say for them at this point. I have not heard the CD.

Marmot 4-Tay: forth-coming, my child. forth-coming most righteous champion (mar, Monday, 26 June 2006 05:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

they suck.

latebloomer aka rap's yoko ono (latebloomer), Monday, 26 June 2006 08:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

lmao P!ATD and FOB are approaching some kind of maximalist singularity

Simon H., Thursday, 22 March 2018 13:41 (ten months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

new album is v good, largely on some soul punk shit

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 22 June 2018 13:34 (seven months ago) Permalink

soty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsEuKBq_4oc

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 22 June 2018 17:30 (seven months ago) Permalink

i had no idea until recently that this band played arenas

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 June 2018 17:40 (seven months ago) Permalink

i like this record a lot

maura, Friday, 22 June 2018 18:19 (seven months ago) Permalink

i was trying to assemble an album out of good songs from their last three records and i actually can't. there have been like five good songs

― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, January 29, 2016 4:02 PM (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

btw i was wrong, vices and virtues is actually a great record, i just hadn't listened to it enough. too rare to live and death of a bachelor are still, like, half-terrible but the good halves are really good

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 22 June 2018 18:33 (seven months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJr1OhX87TM

my jam

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 22 June 2018 18:35 (seven months ago) Permalink

14 y/o dragged me to a show last year. that guy works really damn hard afaict. ok fun show given my expectations.

Hunt3r, Friday, 22 June 2018 23:20 (seven months ago) Permalink

Whoa, that first song you linked is not what I was expecting from Panic. Catchy though, need to check this album out

Vinnie, Friday, 22 June 2018 23:54 (seven months ago) Permalink

"High Hopes"

timellison, Saturday, 23 June 2018 00:01 (seven months ago) Permalink

he’s one of the best pure vocalists working right now

maura, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:02 (seven months ago) Permalink

i had no idea until recently that this band played arenas

Went to the Radio 1 Big Weekend thing a few weeks back with the kids. Main stage and surrounding area were virtually packed from the very start so we were using the area by the second stage as a place for some respite between acts and somewhere the kids could run around in the shade. Most acts on that stage had maybe a couple hundred people watching at most but when PATD played there were easily a few thousand, most of whom knew all the words.

groovypanda, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 07:11 (seven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i love this song so much even tho it's a complete beatles rip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zouSojyIi94

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 21:34 (six months ago) Permalink

my sis took three of her kids (14, 12,10) to the show last night in miami. looked like a great show and her kids are obsessed.

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 21:35 (six months ago) Permalink

pretty. odd is the best

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 21:48 (six months ago) Permalink

listened to it in full last night and i liked it. the back half in partic. folkin around is rad.

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 21:49 (six months ago) Permalink

yeah agreed about it getting even stronger in the second half. "mad as rabbits" is my fav panic song

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 21:55 (six months ago) Permalink

whole album is just it's own weird thing. rabbits is a great power pop song.

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 22:00 (six months ago) Permalink

sorry i need to continue repping for vices and virtues as just a deeply enjoyable emo pop album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu2XSQgdQDY

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 August 2018 15:02 (six months ago) Permalink

six months pass...

I'm taking my daughter to this show tonight and don't really know anything about the band, what am I in for?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 February 2019 19:18 (one week ago) Permalink

a so-so "Bohemian Rhapsody" cover

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Monday, 4 February 2019 19:34 (one week ago) Permalink

(if they still do that)

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Monday, 4 February 2019 19:34 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm in!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 February 2019 19:34 (one week ago) Permalink

Does he do all the parts himself?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 February 2019 19:35 (one week ago) Permalink

i haven't seen them live since 2011 but brendon's a real showman, i think you'll have a good time

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 4 February 2019 21:14 (one week ago) Permalink

sorry i need to continue repping for vices and virtues as just a deeply enjoyable emo pop album

i nearly reactivated this thread the other day just to say this AGAIN

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 4 February 2019 21:15 (one week ago) Permalink

Cool. FWIW I did see My Chemical Romance once and they were nothing special, but this one seems more theatrical. I'm a sucker for big flashy arena shows.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 February 2019 21:33 (one week ago) Permalink

Think my opinion is in this thread somewhere already but they were super fun to see live

Vinnie, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 00:47 (one week ago) Permalink

They're pretty slick! I can see them touring with the 1975.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 03:01 (one week ago) Permalink

my daughter's having a blast, which is most important.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 03:03 (one week ago) Permalink

Are these guys Mormon?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 03:10 (one week ago) Permalink

Pet peeve: why bring along horns and strings but still sometimes enlist offstage pre-recorded stuff? Bring that synth guy out of the shadows, it's cool, your fans are very accepting!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 03:39 (one week ago) Permalink

brendon grew up mormon yeah but is pretty def ex-mormon now i think, vegas has an unexpectedly high mormon population

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 03:46 (one week ago) Permalink

Wow, so he is Mormon! Total Mormon vibe.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 03:53 (one week ago) Permalink

Killers and Imagine Dragons also Vegas Mormons, right?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 03:54 (one week ago) Permalink

just did greatest showman song, daughter so happy.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 03:56 (one week ago) Permalink

Killers and Imagine Dragons also Vegas Mormons, right?

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, February 4, 2019 8:54 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

iirc yes

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 04:17 (one week ago) Permalink

Now they're doing Bohemian Rhapsody, but I'd bet they'd do a great Fat Bottomed Girls or Killer Queen.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 04:18 (one week ago) Permalink

now he's shirtless but not greased

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 04:31 (one week ago) Permalink

he's like the rock/pop angel on the shoulder to Adam Levine's devil.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 04:34 (one week ago) Permalink

lest we forget

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk8jV7r6VMk

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 04:44 (one week ago) Permalink

So, not really my thing, but on his own terms I give him a B+. Never a dull moment live, great performer, very eager to please, lasers, fire, smoke, flying piano and backflips, but no off switch.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 12:57 (one week ago) Permalink

ok so their current incarnation totally not being your thing is understandable, hard to say who that thing is for (teenagers???), BUT if you're willing to take the journey i'm kinda curious what you'd think of pretty. odd josh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjHyXFNGblI

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 14:06 (one week ago) Permalink

That song's pretty good. Pretty good baroque British Invasion pastiche. Did these guys ever release a rock opera? Sound like a band that would release a rock opera. Or several. Maybe they're all rock operas?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 14:22 (one week ago) Permalink

pretty odd is pretty much all baroque british invasion pastiche crossed with elo (so: meta baroque british invasion pastiche) and it's great, no other panic record sounds like it and honestly few records do at all

they've never put out a rock opera but you're right they should've

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 14:27 (one week ago) Permalink

pretty odd is a much more intense level of odd than just 'pretty', 60s baroque pop pastiche but with 00s pop rock production is so unsettling to me

ufo, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 14:33 (one week ago) Permalink

"High Hopes" made my tracks ballot. Seemed like one of the memorable sibglea from last year. I did enjoy the first two albums at the time; haven't listened in a long time.

silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 15:30 (one week ago) Permalink

I will say of all their stuff I have now heard, that song is maybe my least favorite. It's like instant ear-stab headache for me.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 16:11 (one week ago) Permalink

i liked "high hopes" but its omnipresence has ruined it a lot for me

for instance, it has been stuck in my head for the past thousand years

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 16:33 (one week ago) Permalink

sibglea = singles obv

silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 16:35 (one week ago) Permalink


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