what's that, my favourite LP out on my birthday?
Pale Saints - In Ribbons 30th Anniversary Expanded Edition4AD0407Disc 1: In Ribbons UK VersionDisc 2: Unreleased Demos & Tintwistle Brass Band Covers Out 6 October 🎀 〰️ https://t.co/8Ea46QtIKx pic.twitter.com/L2pPCHMrqu— 4AD (@4AD_Official) August 30, 2023
― koogs, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 18:59 (eight months ago) link
Nice!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 19:00 (eight months ago) link
Bandcamp preorder link (Bandcamp Friday is about here!)
https://palesaints.bandcamp.com/album/in-ribbons-30th-anniversary-reissue
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 19:05 (eight months ago) link
I think those Tintwistle Brass Band tracks came as a 7 inch with the album when it first came out, I know I had them
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 21:40 (eight months ago) link
They very much did.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 21:46 (eight months ago) link
Per Discogs: "recorded at Claptons Club, Tinwistle, 23rd February 1992."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 21:47 (eight months ago) link
oh wow, so happy to see this!
― NickB, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 21:50 (eight months ago) link
Oh my God, In Ribbons got a 30th year reissue today!:
https://4ad.com/news/30/8/2023/inribbons30thanniversaryreissue
― Bee OK, Friday, 6 October 2023 20:26 (seven months ago) link
I should have polled it
― Bee OK, Friday, 6 October 2023 20:27 (seven months ago) link
now it will get on all the playlists and tv shows <3
― brimstead, Saturday, 7 October 2023 00:33 (seven months ago) link
These demos are pretty interesting. Always thought this record sounded a fraction too neat and laboured over. (But I always say that sort of thing lol. Not about to claim these are the definitive renditions or anything challopsy like that.)
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 7 October 2023 01:49 (seven months ago) link
Here is Ian Masters talking over lead vocals on "Kinky Love" (Demo):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmVi8JeFO5M
― Bee OK, Saturday, 7 October 2023 01:53 (seven months ago) link
A 15 minute History clip with talk about In Ribbons at the 7:25 mark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPWk2yOpCZk
― Bee OK, Saturday, 7 October 2023 02:31 (seven months ago) link
Glad to now have three readily available versions of "Babymaker" to rotate through. I've seemingly needed to hear that in particular at least yearly since I was a schoolkid. No idea what Masters is getting at lyrically but it's a strangely moving/bracing/uplifting? ditty.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 7 October 2023 03:01 (seven months ago) link
> now it will get on all the playlists and tv shows <3
iirc there were prominent posters in the radio station on Neighbours back in the day - mushroom had just signed a distribution deal with 4ad
― koogs, Saturday, 7 October 2023 04:11 (seven months ago) link
very little proof of that is to be found on the internet, very hard to even find out the name of the radio station in neighbours, but discogs has scans of aus version of the sleeve and that has a liberation logo on it...
https://www.discogs.com/master/26780-Pale-Saints-In-Ribbons?country=Australia&image=5334152.SW1hZ2U6MTA5MzI0ODM%3D
― koogs, Saturday, 7 October 2023 04:38 (seven months ago) link
hmv had copies (copy?) in the new releases when i was there this morning and a copy of Comforts in the rack.
my copy is still in the post 8(
― koogs, Saturday, 7 October 2023 19:24 (seven months ago) link
my copy is here, my stereo is a pain to get to at the moment, but i made the effort today
it sounds, on the stereo, muddier than the original (usually heard using earphones). or is that just me?
now working through demos, nice to hear ian's stab at kinky love.
― koogs, Friday, 13 October 2023 13:01 (six months ago) link
🎵Especially for Koogs...🎵
https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/4xPcKYif69LT.png
― Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 13 October 2023 14:10 (six months ago) link
I wanna tell you, you mean all the world to me...
― koogs, Friday, 13 October 2023 14:57 (six months ago) link
Ha! I hope many many Australians bought it as a result (subliminal or not)
― brimstead, Friday, 13 October 2023 15:41 (six months ago) link
I haven't got around to listening yet, need to rectify that
― Bee OK, Friday, 13 October 2023 23:03 (six months ago) link
If we polled this, I would pick “haunted” in a heartbeat.
― brimstead, Saturday, 14 October 2023 00:17 (six months ago) link
I remembered buying the "Haunted" EP thanks to the above doc I posted. I think I'm going to go ahead and poll, maybe even next week, Madness hope to get a few votes as I have no idea how it will do.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 14 October 2023 01:15 (six months ago) link
Certainly a contender for best 1992 album expanded/reissued in 2023.
― Andy K, Saturday, 14 October 2023 01:44 (six months ago) link
“Hunted” is really something, and that Flesh Balloon EP was great. Probably my peak of PS obsession, Meriel boosted then ruined the band for me. I’d be tempted to vote for “Shell” because (a) nobody else could do that and (b) what incredible growth from the earlier stuff.
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 14 October 2023 16:32 (six months ago) link
Comforts of Madness > Half Life, Remembered > In Ribbons > Flesh Balloon
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Saturday, 14 October 2023 21:38 (six months ago) link
“shell” is amazing too. the cello, the soaring guitar lead, the mallets… <3
― brimstead, Saturday, 14 October 2023 22:46 (six months ago) link
xp I guess "Kinky Love" does suck, but I like "Porpoise"
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 15 October 2023 01:03 (six months ago) link
Hey, very cool:
https://www.pastemagazine.com/music/pale-saints/looking-back-30-years-to-the-creation-of-pale-saints-in-ribbons
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:05 (six months ago) link
Thanks for that, Ned
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Thursday, 26 October 2023 21:02 (six months ago) link
In which world does Kinky Love suck? Recently listened to the original for the time - never realised how raunchy those lyrics were
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 27 October 2023 12:45 (six months ago) link
It feels like they’re trying a bit too hard to be funny, but at the time I think I liked it.
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 27 October 2023 21:35 (six months ago) link
kind surprised that it's ian interviewing there, i had him down as some kind of recluse (even though he's been in more post pale saints bands than the others probably by a factor of 5)
― koogs, Friday, 27 October 2023 21:39 (six months ago) link
Ian’s EP Kingdom of Heaven (with Warren Defever under their old ESP Summer name) from a couple of years ago is astonishing. Especially for fans of Pale Saints, if you like to play those “what if Ian stayed for the third album” gamesAlso, the only time I heard of Isolated Gate anywhere (and their stuff is excellent) is on this board, from Ned; not a word anywhere else, not even a side note during press for In Ribbons reissue. No wonder Ian is pissed off about that in the article.
― Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Saturday, 28 October 2023 02:23 (six months ago) link
♥️
― Bee OK, Saturday, 28 October 2023 03:52 (six months ago) link
time to hit Bandcamp while I still can
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 28 October 2023 08:51 (six months ago) link
Side note: does anyone remember the Institute of Spoons website from ~20 years ago which used to load with an audio file of Ian announcing the name?
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 28 October 2023 08:53 (six months ago) link
that was mostly a Friendly Science website iirc, which seemed to be a label designed to confuse
― koogs, Saturday, 28 October 2023 10:50 (six months ago) link
i mean in that interview Ian complains of things getting boring but if his idea of the alternative to that is this then...
https://www.discogs.com/release/925170-Various-The-Winner-Is-The-Loser
― koogs, Saturday, 28 October 2023 10:55 (six months ago) link
Thanks for sharing that Paste interview! It answered some questions that I had - primarily, why the studio version of "Blue Flower" wasn't on the 30th anniv edition (which was originally a bonus track for the U.S. release). I didn't know Ian didn't want it on the album and didn't think it was that good (I like it - and the Slapp Happy original and the Mazzy Star cover too). I got the CD version of the 30th anniv edition and was frankly a little baffled, thinking "there is plenty of space on the CDs for more bonus tracks!" So that's addressed in the interview:
Paste: Is that part of the reason that that song and the other b-side from the “Throwing Back The Apple” single didn’t get included in this reissue?Ian: I think it was more or less a decision to try and keep to the tracks that were on the original LP, demos of those and the brass band recordings because it would have been too expensive to have a double LP plus 7”. Those may get put on another compilation at some point.
Ian: I think it was more or less a decision to try and keep to the tracks that were on the original LP, demos of those and the brass band recordings because it would have been too expensive to have a double LP plus 7”. Those may get put on another compilation at some point.
Having the non-demo version of "Kinky Love" would have been nice, too - but if they end up putting out another compilation, as Ian mentions, that's cool too.
I also wish the 30th anniv edition booklet had a little more effort go into it - at least, more than just a few (small) photos and three quotes from band members.
― ernestp, Saturday, 4 November 2023 19:58 (six months ago) link
Spoonfed Hybrid album being re-released for Record Store Day with album of demo versions.
― djh, Friday, 16 February 2024 07:43 (two months ago) link
Gonna have to dig out Hibernation Shock this weekend. Found it in a used bin a few years back and have only listened to it once, I think.
― henry s, Saturday, 17 February 2024 00:03 (two months ago) link
Enjoy!
― djh, Saturday, 17 February 2024 10:03 (two months ago) link
Rotten news -- Graeme Naysmith has passed:
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:43 (three weeks ago) link
RIP! The other day I was just lolling at a silly picture of him someone posted on ig.
― brimstead, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 23:39 (three weeks ago) link
Good, honest post from Ian M. earlier today on FB:
I have a few words I'd like to write at this sad time. Comments are closed. Just read and digest, please. It wasn't a secret that Graeme and I didn't speak after I left Pale Saints. Our musical paths had already diverged. There was no ill feeling between us. It was simply no longer necessary to say any more when music was the only thing that connected us. Even after you stop making music with someone, and cease to know them, you have an unbreakable musical bond with them, because you set aside differences to make that music with them, and that music endures for a longer time. So I'll always respect the bond, a bond which defies comprehension for me, that allowed the 3 of us collaborate to make the music that led to the 1st album, and then the 4 of us to make the 2nd album. Because neither of those albums could have occurred without each member's vital contributions, the unconscious channeling of each musical spirit. A chance meeting that changed our lives.During the time I knew him, Graeme lived for music, and his enthusiasm for it neither wavered nor waned. A true music maniac and aficionado. I never heard him express a desire to do anything else.I send my condolences to all who knew and loved him.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 April 2024 19:10 (two weeks ago) link
Thanks for that, Ned.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Monday, 22 April 2024 19:23 (two weeks ago) link