i am using Guitar Rig 2 and garageband to record.
would love any input.
― pram (pram), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:54 (eleven years ago) Permalink
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink
Two words: Re Verb.
― harmonic generator, haircuts are for losers (kate), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:44 (eleven years ago) Permalink
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink
actually what i am trying to acheive is a nice melodic, distorted tone. in other words, pushed to the point of subtle feedback, still picking up some nice mids and highs, but with a sharp edgy distortion. kinda like willie nelson.
i can't seem to find the right combination without things getting muddier than i prefer.
*Alex, you city dudes are always bitter. too much emo?
― pram (pram), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:09 (eleven years ago) Permalink
You want a solid state amp, bridge pickup selected, really heavy chorus, and distortion set between %50-60.
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 20:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 20:51 (eleven years ago) Permalink
yeah, well the willie nelson thing was sarcasm. as was the industrial comment. i was fu*cking with alex of NYC :) sorry. thanks for the input. i actually use Guitar Rig, and listen to the sound through decent studio headphones. compared to similar types of music, listening on same headphones, i get frustrated. i will give your comments a try though.
― pram (pram), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 23:13 (eleven years ago) Permalink
(posting this here as it's the first (only) result for 'pale saints')
ian auctioning off the copy of the Barging demos that the band sent to themselves for copyright purposes at the same time they sent them to 4ad. proceeds to japan earthquake fund.
― koogs, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 09:41 (six years ago) Permalink
They had so many amazing guitar sounds. The first thing that came to mind was "Baby Maker".
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 18:12 (six years ago) Permalink
xp: does that work, legally?
― i have a hot bagel waiting for me in my bed so ill say this: (kkvgz), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:05 (six years ago) Permalink
(it's the cheapest / easiest way that people recommend. send it registered mail, don't open it on arrival, then at least the post office has a record of something being sent. you should probably get something notarised though)
― koogs, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:50 (six years ago) Permalink
― nothing a reincarnated ronnie james dio couldn't fix (brimstead), Thursday, 6 February 2014 20:41 (four years ago) Permalink
is this the only pale saints thread on ilm? and what a stupid thread this is as if blind people were talking about the sun. an amazing band with a unique otherworldly feel. "in ribbons" has aged astonishingly well. the only other bands i can think of right now who have created a similar heavenly sound are the cocteau twins and mbv.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 7 August 2015 20:18 (two years ago) Permalink
agreed, "In Ribbons" might be my favorite album of that era. tho I think the rhythm section keeps the sound a little ways from heavenly.
― geoffreyess, Saturday, 8 August 2015 01:18 (two years ago) Permalink
whooo, Pale Saints how ironic.
i have not listened to this band in forever, i hung out at my friends house on Tuesday and he was playing drums. he started playing songs from The Comforts of Madness and i was blown away. they sounded so good and the drummer is out of his mind on some of the tracks. that and the Mrs. Dolphin comp were fucking great. didn't like In Ribbons as much at the time as Ian Masters sort of took a back seat, they were his band and it showed on those early cuts.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 8 August 2015 02:09 (two years ago) Permalink
i am just listening to "comforts of madness" for the first time. the drums are pretty impressive, often extremely fast and mixed into the foreground, you are absolutely right. but pale saints - to me at least - are not about drums. they haven't yet found their magic sound on "comforts". and it also lacks in the tunes. the band is still on the search. on "in ribbons" they have reached their peak, they have created a masterpiece. when i first listened to it 23 years ago i found ian masters voice a little thin but in hindsight it fits perfectly to the rather subdued, introspective music. it is the kind of backgroundish music you get totally hooked to when you hear it first. a reason might also be that it is pretty quiet music which demands from the listener to open up his ears if he wants to hear something.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 8 August 2015 20:03 (two years ago) Permalink
My favorite was always "flesh balloon". A couple of their best songs (best-sounding, at least), a pleasantly baggy instrumental and that gorgeous Nancy Sinatra cover.
― Plasmon, Sunday, 9 August 2015 05:49 (two years ago) Permalink
> they were his band and it showed on those early cuts.
i think they were more of a symbiosis - judging by how the band sounded after he'd left and how he sounded on his later works (spoonfed hybrid, esp summer, sore and steel, friendly science...). they were a lot more ordinary, he was maybe too esoteric.
i prefer in ribbons as an lp over comforts despite comforts having better songs. ribbons is more mixed, and the way comforts is all sequed together makes it awkward in these days of shuffle. (it's also very quiet - it's been normalised as one long track and there's a loud bass note on one of the tracks that just means everything else is too quiet).
― koogs, Sunday, 9 August 2015 11:05 (two years ago) Permalink
I find nothing particularly original or unique about PS but they are very enjoyable!
― calstars, Sunday, 6 September 2015 03:01 (two years ago) Permalink
Pale Saints never got the proper respect, they were one of the best from the era. Moka brought this up in her thread and got me to remember this. love the drums, with that wonderful bass line and then add the guitar.
― Bee OK, Sunday, 25 June 2017 05:04 (eight months ago) Permalink
in ribbons is a goddam masterpiece, comforts of madness is p good too
― brimstead, Monday, 26 June 2017 23:11 (seven months ago) Permalink
madness >>> ribbons
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 12:31 (seven months ago) Permalink
i even liked their third and last album Slow Buildings even though their heart and soul member Ian Masters quit. Meriel Barham (also of Lush) took over vocals but she was around so it didn't feel like a replacement. they went for a more pop sound and it sort of worked.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 29 June 2017 00:33 (seven months ago) Permalink
It was nice, but it wasn't Pale Saints to me.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, 29 June 2017 01:57 (seven months ago) Permalink
this band is so fucking criminally underrated, this is inspiring me to run the Shoegazer poll very soon.
Sea of Sound:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syIiTesQnJU
― Bee OK, Saturday, 12 August 2017 02:48 (six months ago) Permalink
― Bee OK, Saturday, 12 August 2017 02:50 (six months ago) Permalink
― Bee OK, Saturday, 12 August 2017 02:56 (six months ago) Permalink
that drumming is for the gods!
― Bee OK, Saturday, 12 August 2017 03:01 (six months ago) Permalink
then they turned into this, which i happen to also love:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk4FF5huCo4
A Thousand Stars Burst Openhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9vOko4Yii8
― Bee OK, Saturday, 12 August 2017 03:06 (six months ago) Permalink
― Bee OK, Saturday, 12 August 2017 03:14 (six months ago) Permalink
i will close with this (again the drumming):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyD9V34AApc
― Bee OK, Saturday, 12 August 2017 03:27 (six months ago) Permalink
what a band, i haven't listen to them like this in a very long time. they did not disappoint in the least. ILM just happened to be the forum tonight.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 12 August 2017 03:28 (six months ago) Permalink
now i want to hear Moose.
drinking again tonight and went off on the drumming yet again but the Pale Saints are all about the guitar sound.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 12 August 2017 04:00 (six months ago) Permalink
Fantastic band, really liked that Dum Dum Girls cover. Ian Masters post-Pale Saints work is well worth your time as well.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 12 August 2017 13:58 (six months ago) Permalink
Time Thief is one of my favourite shoegaze songs. Pale Saints should do a reunion tour every other shoegaze band has by now. See See Rider can support them
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 12 August 2017 19:12 (six months ago) Permalink