Bambaata vs. Grandmaster Flash circa early 80's etc etc

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I realize folks probably have wildly different viewpoints regarding the two...I somehow got reintroduced to them both again recently despite not hearing them for many years, and I've found myself more fascinated than I might have thought.

I remember a time when I heard a type of music only at school dances and nowhere else. Songs like "Planet Rock" and "The Message" and even Tom Tom Club's "Genius Of Love" were just things you never heard on the radio and were only heard by me through the good grace of folks savvy enough to DJ at these events in the early 80's.

Hearing Bambaata & Soulsonic Force's "Looking for the Perfect Beat" sounds really familiar to me, too. I'm delighted at how similar the synth/instrumentation reminds me of New Order's dance experiments along the same lines.

So I've made myself a mix of early Grandmaster Flash & Bambaata and I'm having a ball despite having very little interest in hip hop or rap generally.

Has-been Hash Brown (Bimble...), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 01:40 (eleven years ago) Permalink

if you dig this stuff definitely check out the sugarhill records box set - some of the songs go on a little too long but it's pretty sweet all the way through.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 01:47 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Heheh. Funny you say that. I remember seeing that box set of 12"es a long long long time ago in a store. It grabbed my interest when I saw it but I don't know if I even picked it up and looked at the track listing. I kindof filed it under "investigate this later" kind of thing. I imagine they have a CD equivalent now.

Has-been Hash Brown (Bimble...), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 01:51 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I tell you though I'm not all that big of a fan of "Rapper's Delight" - seems to me it's too derivative of Chic's Good Times.

Has-been Hash Brown (Bimble...), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 01:51 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I was going to look for a Sugarhill discog online, haven't gotten around to it yet.

Has-been Hash Brown (Bimble...), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 01:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

some of it can accurately be described as "disco with people talking over it."

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 01:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Hahahaha! You know it brother!

Has-been Hash Brown (Bimble...), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

there's reasons that era electro-funk and that era New Order sound similar, and their names are Arthur Baker and John Robie!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Heheh. I saw Arthur Baker did a show on BBC recently.

Has-been Hash Brown (Bimble...), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:44 (eleven years ago) Permalink

personally what I'd really like to hear is recordings on 70's dj sets by those guys - Bam especially

grapple (grapple), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

there was a Flash & the 5 live bootleg making the rounds in the 80s, can't remember the name of it, sorry my vinyl's in storage...

I count myself very lucky to have seen both Flash & Bam spin in the early 80s (Herc & Theodore too). Bam held forth for years on Friday nites at the Roxy roller rink, ably assisted by Red Alert, Afrika Islam, Jazzy Jay & co. ZULU NATION THROWDOWN COME IN PEACE

my vague memory says Flash's DJ sets were more sliced & diced while Bambaataa & crew were slightly more recognizably song-oriented...but don't trust me on that.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Afrika Bambaataa at his Grandmaster Flash-iest: "Jazzy Sensation".
Grandmaster Flash at his Afrika Bambaataa-iest: "Scorpio".

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

there was a good flash cd the other year, not sure of the provenance of all of it, seems to be some sets from the late 70s though.

Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

seems to be some sets from the late 70s though.

It's mostly modern mixes he did for Strut with some classic break records, and then those two older mixes from '79 and '82. Strut must have had to clear a lot of stuff for that one.

Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 10:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

hey everyone... i'm new on the boards 9first post!).i have a GREAT vid collection called "electric dance hop" that has ALL the early s-force,melee mel,the black watch,arthur x,ultra magnetic mc's-on and on. theres even "world destruction" w/ johnny rotten, one of my fave cross overs. anybody seen it?

R.Kane (arcane), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

ysi?

Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:58 (eleven years ago) Permalink

White Lines has always been one of my favourite rap songs.

shorty (shorty), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink

PLEASE GOD MAKE IT STOP

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
Revive!

Vampire Business (Bimble...), Saturday, 1 July 2006 22:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I recently bought Bambaata's Looking For The Perfect Beat 1980-1985. Is there anything essential that isn't on it?

It's Rodney, poised and rational! (R. J. Greene), Sunday, 2 July 2006 04:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Oh god, probably not. But I'm not an expert just yet.

Vampire Business (Bimble...), Sunday, 2 July 2006 05:07 (eleven years ago) Permalink

the 3 CD set 'Grandmaster Flash, The Furious Five, Grandmaster Melle Mel - Adventures On The Wheels Of Steel' is gnarly
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000ECXCAY.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_V50337240_.jpg

mentalist (mentalist), Sunday, 2 July 2006 07:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Babe Ruth vs Lou Gehrig
Pele vs Maradona
Air vs Water

nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Monday, 3 July 2006 06:40 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Question about the Bambaata comp. What's up with the similiarly titled first two tracks?

It's Rodney, who erupts like a volcano and covers you with his love! (R. J. Gree, Monday, 3 July 2006 22:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Unity vs. Jesse

Rev. PappaWheelie, The Good Doctor (PappaWheelie 2), Monday, 3 July 2006 23:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Anyone ever see Afrika Bambaata spin recently ? I've got a friend who wants me to go but I don't want to pay 20 bucks for an old school hip hop set that I've heard rehashed hundreds of times at hip hop club. Does anyone know what he drops in his sets these days ?

oscar, Sunday, 17 February 2008 03:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

nine years pass...

Bambaata has the edge w the James Brown collab but Grandmaster Flash's "Scorpio" is still amazing

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 17:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the media silence wrt the Bambaataa and the wide spread child abuse allegations is pretty disturbing

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 17:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink

idk what to make of that stuff, I think the most high profile thing I saw was something in pfork? can't remember.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 17:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

it's def not getting Cosby-level attention or anything, but then he's sort of a cult figure these days

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 17:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yeah I would think for most people the first response to that headline would be "who is Afrika Bamaataa?"

really sad how things shook out for both these groups. imagine how full of potential it all must have seemed in 1982.

frogbs, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 17:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16k-k29wA8Q

love the animation on this video

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 22:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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