If you actively dislike Creedence Clearwater Revival, then I can never respect anything you have to say about anything.

CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL 4 LYFE!!!

Neil Young used drop-D on “Mr. Soul.”

Think drop-D was used by classical players for all a while, want to say it goes all the way back to Galileo Galilei and his dad Vincenzo, but I guess they were playing lute so that doesn't work. There was something interesting here about Sebastopol tuning but the link appears to be messed up right now.

Oh wait Sebastopol is open D not drop D.

Actually, having checked, Barry Gibb plays in open D not drop D.

"Looking Out My Back Door"

This scene immediately follows the one where he undergoes a proctology exam.

sorry but how does john fogerty have young kids?!? secretly hoping they are grands -- he's 75!

I guess "young" as in "between 18 and 30."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qW2139LKN0

Chose that one because he's playing guitar on a baseball bat.

And hitting it out of the park.

Maybe he was just doing open D after all? I think the rhythm, guitars were always/often in E standard.

Neil Young's "Ohio" is actually double drop D, iirc. That's one D lower, innit?

that's a relief! i was picturing "young children" not "young adults"
just shows how ambiguous a word like "kid" can be!

Sorry; I meant "children, some of whom are relatively young compared to him"!

Anyway, I think "Ramble Tamble" is drop D.

He sounds understandably frustrated about that Woodstock experience and somewhat bitter about The Grateful Dead and their unprofessional LSD intake. He doesn’t seem very sympathetic about hippies either. Iirc he himself very rarely drank or did drugs specially before a concert.

That said it’s then apparent they only agreed to do Woodstock because they expected to find new fans and sell more records. They should have known better and turn it down just as Bob Dylan did if they weren’t particularly excited about them hippies.

what a whiny old fart!

i had to play my beloved hit songs in front of a massive iconic crowd, and everyone was wasted. it was just the fucking worst man

then i went home to a birthday party and it was exactly what i wanted....i said fuck this man, i'm going to bed

I guess nobody clicked my link: Gibson (his guitar manufacturer) says Fogerty uses open chord tunings (mostly D, but G and C as well)... I'm not even sure he used drop-D?

a while back i learned a handful of CCR classics. they were all in standard tuning, and very, very easy to learn and play.

which "classics"? well you all know the ones i'm talking about, the 4 CCR songs that absolutely everyone agrees are at the highest tier

Tom Fogerty played exclusively in standard tuning on rhythm guitar, which is why this subject might be confusing.

oh yep, you're right! i must have been learning Tom's parts. I haven't seen too much live footage of CCR, so i often forget that john plays so many lead parts

Had no idea J Fogerty played in anything but standard tuning but then he plays all the hooks and riffs and lead stuff.

Kind of a pain to play lead in different tunings?

I'm less than an amateur on the guitar, but what's the special tuning Neil Young uses for "Cinnamon Girl" (which he explains to a busker somewhere on Archives)--is that a drop-D?

Yes

Cinnamon Girl is double drop-D: DADGBD where both E-strings are dropped to D

Hahaha I’m not saying he is whiny, I’m actually on his side, fuck those unprofessional deadhead hippies. CCR deserved better.

xpost Yeah, "Cinnamon Girl" and "Ohio" are double drop-D.

Looks like Fogerty spent a lot of time in open G, open D, drop D and of course standard. Oh and also everything tuned down a whole step, too: D-G-C-F-A-D. (If I saw correctly, "Proud Mary" is in this tuning.) Speaking of Neil Young, I think "Hey Hey My My (Into the Black)" may also be D-G-C-F-A-D, too.

“Late last night...I WENT FO A WALK!”

xpost pretty sure Neil used D-G-C-F-A-D on "Ambulance Blues", as well

And the mention of Texarkana upthread reminds me that "Ride My Llama" is in a weird tuning... according to the tab I just searched up, it's E-B-E-A-C#-E (double drop D with a capo at the second fret)

O’Rourke kept his experimental tendencies in check, ceding the spotlight to Callahan’s voice—warmer and fuller than it had ever been recorded before, a reluctant river of feeling lit by purple dusk—and rounding it out with gentle strokes of cello, Velvets-style motorik chug, and classic-rock choogle.

pfork has deemed Smog a choogler https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/smog-knock-knock/

If everyone choogles then no one choogles.

Lol, Smog doesn't choogle. He's lucky if he ch's.

i was looking for japanese-language covers of pink floyd songs, mostly fruitlessly, but i did come across this band, who do japanese-language covers of a lot of different creedence songs. i approve!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9bRAeg-1ak

having said that, i do not think these folks choogle necessarily.

What was the story about Norman Lear buying Fantasy and John Fogerty going back to the label? Is it discussed upthread?/zing

@rushomancy I've seen a Japanese Steely Dan cover band twice and they are pretty good! lmk if that's your cup of tea.

chooglin' requires 18" hi-hats

I'm choogling Japanese I really think so

@rushomancy I've seen a Japanese Steely Dan cover band twice and they are pretty good! lmk if that's your cup of tea.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli)

thanks jersey al but steely dan has never really been my thing at all, idk why :shrug:

I just stumbled upon this - Fogerty's official YouTube channel uploaded the entire 1987 broadcast of his set at the Vietnam tribute where he unexpectedly broke his boycott on CCR songs. Great set, and Fogerty even fakes them out at the beginning before laying on the surprise. It's especially nice to see and hear people's reactions and Fogerty acknowledging that once in a while, particularly since the audience is mainly Vietnam vets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2UknGjCkCI

Will watch later, thanks! How does it compare to Live At Woodstock?

You're welcome! Hard to say because I haven't heard their Woodstock set recently. I used to have the bootleg of the soundboard mix, and while it was a good performance (much better than what the band made it out to be), they had already released better performances like that great Oakland show (which was also videotaped and you can find it on YouTube).

FWIW, I think *seeing* these performances rather than just hearing them gives them a lot more appeal - it would be great if the Woodstock show gets released that way too but at least it got a real mix as the soundboard is a little unbalanced.

Actually filmed (in 16mm), not videotaped. You can find better quality YouTube uploads of individual numbers, but here's that 1970 Oakland show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4H501Eh90M

The announcer says they were all 24 years old at that point except for Tom who was 27. Damn

Man, that's nothing. Check out Buddy Holly when the Crickets were still together - you've got TEENAGERS in that group. Holly was only 22 when he died.

It's crazy how young some of these legends were. (Then of course you have someone like Chuck Berry who was months away from turning 30 when he cut his first single.)

Thanks for posting that film. I don't know if anyone quite had their combination of toughness, laid-backness, and "groove". That guitar in Willy and the Poor Boys has the bite of a chainsaw, but it has the swing of a country song.

The announcer says they were all 24 years old at that point except for Tom who was 27. Damn

Better get this in before Mr. J. Redd does, Emitt Rhodes' career was over when he was 23.

It's of slight interest to me that Creedence and AC/DC share the younger brother on lead guitar/older brother on rhythm guitar dynamic, though of course AC/DC was Malcolm's band and Creedence was John's.

crüt, at first I did not believe you about the 18" hats. Holy shit, those are manhole covers. The energy required to get them to move must be tremendous, and they have a really slushy decay.

(fwiw I only ever play 13" hats, and am regarded as an eccentric)

/The announcer says they were all 24 years old at that point except for Tom who was 27. Damn/

Better get this in before Mr. J. Redd does, Emitt Rhodes' career was over when he was 23.

xx-posting

Richie Valens had a top 10 single and died in that plane crash before he turned 18.