If you actively dislike Creedence Clearwater Revival, then I can never respect anything you have to say about anything.

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I believe this with my entire soul.

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Friday, 2 June 2006 04:16 (thirteen years ago) link

seconded.

Marmotdeth (marmotwolof), Friday, 2 June 2006 04:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Idiots.

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Friday, 2 June 2006 04:23 (thirteen years ago) link

does anyone really actively hate them??? ive never heard of this

karri miback (cruisy), Friday, 2 June 2006 04:23 (thirteen years ago) link

i haven't yet. this is a hypothetical creature, as far as my actual experience is concerned.

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Friday, 2 June 2006 04:28 (thirteen years ago) link

do i have to repost that Other Music Howlin' Rain review?

jäxøñ (jaxon), Friday, 2 June 2006 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Howlin' Rain record release this saturday at the hemlock (i'm outta town).

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 2 June 2006 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link

does other music not like CCR?

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Friday, 2 June 2006 05:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Drawing heavily from a much vilified era of American rock, circa 1969-1974, Howlin Rain reek of early Grateful Dead, Allman Bros, CCR, Crazy Horse...

Marmotdeth (marmotwolof), Friday, 2 June 2006 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link

banned =

New (Old) Warehouse Decree: EVERY FRIDAY is CREEDENCE FRIDAY

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 2 June 2006 05:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Howlin' Rain record release this saturday at the hemlock (i'm outta town).

stevie, you wouldn't per chance be in LA this weekend? because i will be.

jäxøñ (jaxon), Friday, 2 June 2006 05:58 (thirteen years ago) link

also, Marmotdeth, are you a noize dude in sheeps clothing.

jäxøñ (jaxon), Friday, 2 June 2006 05:59 (thirteen years ago) link

what if, like me, you love creedence clearwater revival but generally has little or no use for the roots-rock/alt-country that they inspired?!?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 2 June 2006 06:12 (thirteen years ago) link

i saw fogerty play about 8 years ago or whenever that album came out (the album was ok, so-so). and we were all wondering, you know, would he do much creedence, or just a little, would he be pushing the new stuff hard or whatever...and he came out and just bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam, did like 7 straight solid gold-platinum creedence numbers in a row, and sounded GREAT, and then we were just his to do with as he pleased. but even then he just threw in a new song or two and then bam-bam-bam-bam-bam, more more more. one of the greatest shows i've ever seen.

xpost: why's it matter what he inspired? and anyway didn't he inspire, like, bob seger and john cougar more than he inspired the derailers?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 2 June 2006 06:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I am a marmot in deth's clothing.
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Marmotdeth (marmotwolof), Friday, 2 June 2006 06:20 (thirteen years ago) link

it doesn't really matter THAT much to me -- it was a question for the thread creator.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 2 June 2006 06:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Or I am deth in marmot's clothing, tke your pick. Eisbar what bands in particular do you mean? Alt-country always makes me think Uncle Tupelo and I never got into them and their ilk.

Marmotdeth (marmotwolof), Friday, 2 June 2006 06:31 (thirteen years ago) link

ok

Arnar Eggert Thoroddsen (arnart1802), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Actively?

They aren't in existance, so how?

I got a 'greatest hits' in a bootsale, was all 'ah lovely' got it home, thought "This is boring".

Is that active enough for yez?

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I can understand why some people don't like his voice

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I agree 100% with this thread. I've always thought the same about Chuck Berry.

Jim M (jmcgaw), Friday, 2 June 2006 11:43 (thirteen years ago) link

OTM re: Chuck Berry.. and bo diddley too, but maybe even moreso.

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Does John Fogerty pee on girls in bathtubs?

NickB (NickB), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Found one: my girlfriend abolutely hates CCR and refuses to listen to them. She will leave the room if they are on. I forget where this confusingly intense hatred comes from, but I think there was a story attached.

Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Thread went backwards for 2 posts there...

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha, oops.

Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link

CCR and Al Green may be the only artists discussed on ILM enjoyed by everyone.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link

When we got to CCR on the "bands everyone likes" thread it was going well for a bit but alas there were finally some dissenters.

TRG (TRG), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I dissent. I can stand some of the big hits - Up Around The Bend and Bad Moon Rising are fine, but the rest just sounds like a third rate bar band fronted by a singing goat.

Dr.C (Dr.C), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I love CCR but I can certainly understand why people wouldn't like them: Fogerty's voice, samey arragements, tendency to jam aimlessly

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

britishes people don't "get" ccr

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Balls

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link

be happy to be an exception.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Um, I think they had about 10 top 40 hits in Britain.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link

i had a friend who only knew about ccr through an ad constantly running on tv for a compilation. it was one of those "sessions presents!" kinda things, selling ccr the same way they'd sell a k-tel comp. my friend wrote them off as a joke based on that. years later she realized the error of her ways.

and anyone seen the ccr woodstock footage? they're like fuckin' merzbow up there.

Lawrence the Looter (Lawrence the Looter), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

CCR rules. My dad like CCR and brought me up right. No dissent should be tolerated. Martial choogle law will be enforced by the Natl Guard if necessary.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

CCR rules. My dad liked CCR and brought me up right. No dissent should be tolerated. Martial choogle law will be enforced by the Natl Guard if necessary.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I think my girlfriend doesn't like CCR :(

Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Parents listened to a lot of CCR and, well, classic rock in general. Listening to CCR greatest hits now and can definitely say I dislike this and never want to hear it again. Aside from a few hits it's really intolerable.

larssen (larssen), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Please report to your local re-education center.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link

CCR and Al Green may be the only artists discussed on ILM enjoyed by everyone.
-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (soto.alfre...), June 2nd, 2006 10:55 AM.

WRONG. I would be perfectly happy to never hear another note performed by John Fogerty ever, ever again.

I love CCR but I can certainly understand why people wouldn't like them: Fogerty's voice, samey arrangements, tendency to jam aimlessly
-- Oh No, It's Dadaismus (dadaismu...), June 2nd, 2006 11:12 AM.

You got it.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

"and anyone seen the ccr woodstock footage? they're like fuckin' merzbow up there."

where can this be seen? (Youtube it...?) its not in the movie.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

i've always liked creedence! they fucking bring it, man.

gear (gear), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

< / delong >

gear (gear), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

okay, i'll raise my hand. ban me from the noize board now

jergins (jergins), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

anyone who hates CCR has no choogle in their blood and therefore suxx (not really, but c'mon, get with the program!)

I am ready to kill myself and eat my dog (teenagequiet), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Whatever.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Thomas has choogle but no voodoo.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link

we will ramble tamble over the bones of our enemies.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyone who hates CCR should be raped until they die.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Despite my misgivings about Fogerty's voice (expressed above), I have now listened to Live at Woodstock and confirm that this recording is totally smokin'.

60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 21:58 (four days ago) link

it's actually spelled smoykin'

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 22:43 (four days ago) link

I think Kim Salmon borrowed a lot from Fogerty's vocals at least in Scientists days.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 22:57 (four days ago) link

km lol

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:08 (four days ago) link

I've been working my way through the giant Woodstock 38-CD set and what's great about Creedence is that you're just coming out of a doomed Grateful Dead set - no way Owsley's sound rig for the Dead was going to be compatible with the Woodstock system - so there's 95 minutes of so of haplessness. Weir getting shocked, false starts, everyone yelling at Oswley, a directionless 40min of "Turn On Your Lovelight" that both exemplifies the lack of PA and the worst qualities of the Dead. Then CCR shows up, cleans the place out like the Ramones, and are gone in 30. The mix cranks the volume on Clifford's bass drum for maximum choogle.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 15 August 2019 00:34 (three days ago) link

I salute your dedication, thanks for the summary of that Dead set which I won't listen to but expect to be sampled soon

sleeve, Thursday, 15 August 2019 00:57 (three days ago) link

Lol

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 August 2019 01:09 (three days ago) link

Noticing Doug Clifford’s massive hi-hats (18”, which is insane) in a CCR clip, I went looking for an interview where he talks about his gear, and found this great quote:

Al [Jackson, Jr.] said to me, “What are your goals?” I said, “I want to be a metronome.” He said, “Why would you want to be a metronome? A metronome is a machine.” I said, “But I want to be on.” Al held up one finger. “Look,” he said, “here’s the beat. The right side of the finger is edging the beat—not going past it but a bit on that side of it. The left side is when you’re pulling it back, maybe from a solo and back into a verse, or from a chorus. Then there’s the middle of the finger. That’s okay too. It can be a verse or something else. You move these notes.”

Growing up, I had listened to Little Richard and heard those cats go into an instrumental section and they would just jump, all moving together. I mentioned that to Al, and he said, “We’re humans, that’s the beauty of it.” That’s one of the greatest gifts I’ve ever received from another player. It helped me to be me. I don’t play perfect time. The groove is a living thing.


https://www.moderndrummer.com/article/november-2012-doug-cosmo-clifford/

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 15 August 2019 04:01 (three days ago) link

18" hi-hats, wtf

Karl Malone, Thursday, 15 August 2019 05:35 (three days ago) link

HI-HATS

j., Thursday, 15 August 2019 05:43 (three days ago) link

Fogerty on the Woodstock set:

I’d seen the Dead live a few times around the Bay Area, and I knew their reputation. At the time, I was what you would call pissed off. They sabotaged our chance in the limelight. But over time, I have developed quite an affection for the Dead. They mumbled their way through a career and they outlasted the Man. They changed the paradigm by doing it their own way, and they made it work. But at Woodstock, they were just a bunch of drugged-out hippies.

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Thursday, 15 August 2019 12:48 (three days ago) link

They mumbled their way through a career and they outlasted the Man.

No one's ever put it better!

Sam Weller, Thursday, 15 August 2019 13:01 (three days ago) link

Lol, seconded

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 August 2019 13:27 (three days ago) link

the mumbling part is right, they did not outlast the man

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:00 (three days ago) link

sadly, the man has legs

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:00 (three days ago) link

I want to say Hunt Sales had huge cymbals ...

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:53 (three days ago) link

do it say it

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 15 August 2019 15:13 (three days ago) link

Is that a euphemism?

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:08 (three days ago) link

Ccr is a good place to start if you’re learning to play guitar (forget the Beatles) - easy chords and strong rhythm

calstars, Thursday, 15 August 2019 20:45 (three days ago) link

Do you think that is why The Minutemen started there?

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 August 2019 20:53 (three days ago) link

otm with beginner guitar. Me and my spouse have been playing a bunch recently, and it’s so awesome that pretty much every CCR song is extremely easy to play

Z S - Amazon FC Ambassador (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 August 2019 20:56 (three days ago) link

A lot of his stuff is in drop d, that could be the only snag for a beginner. But even in standard tuning his songs are so immediately identifiable that it's very satisfying to even approximate them.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 August 2019 21:22 (three days ago) link

Re the Minutemen, I'm not sure it's because covering CCR was relatively easy, I think it's mostly because Fogerty was a protest singer that flew the flannel.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 August 2019 21:23 (three days ago) link

They’re also good for easy leads, eg the Bayou riff which is just an E7 (you don’t even have to move your left hand) and Green River. Then there’s the major key Up Around the Bend and Fortunate Son riffs which are good ways to learn different chord voicings up the neck

calstars, Thursday, 15 August 2019 21:23 (three days ago) link

Green River can be tricky because that are so many guitars on it, each throwing in these iconic little licks.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 August 2019 21:24 (three days ago) link

yeah Green River is hard if you try to play all those riffs on one guitar!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 August 2019 21:26 (three days ago) link

eg the Bayou riff which is just an E7 (you don’t even have to move your left hand
Always think this is a major component of the “swampy” sound, basically a Mixolydian vamp that may change chords but doesn’t sound like a blues and mostly stays on the I7 the majority of the time. See also “Polk Salad Annie.”

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 August 2019 23:19 (three days ago) link

Seems like I found few hits of bands playing a medley of those two songs.

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 August 2019 23:21 (three days ago) link

Daltrey struggles with the riff here, but his voice is perfect for it.

https://youtu.be/YYYxad4SxKY

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 15 August 2019 23:36 (three days ago) link

Bayou specifically, that Pops Staples tremelo is key.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 August 2019 23:59 (three days ago) link

Also, the choogling.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 August 2019 00:05 (two days ago) link

Good point about Pops

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 August 2019 00:06 (two days ago) link

This article ties it all together and singles out the missing link between the two songs in question, James Burton on “Susie Q.”
https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/22707-forgotten-heroes-pops-staples?page=4

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 August 2019 00:13 (two days ago) link

Still can take or leave the bass solo on Woodstock “Suzie Q” but it’s still better than Skip Battin, say.

Lol at Roger Daltrey saying “It’s the only thing I remember about Woodstock.”

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 August 2019 00:39 (two days ago) link

Unexpected Bayou:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUCpCOx3zBk

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 August 2019 11:30 (two days ago) link

wow!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 August 2019 11:54 (two days ago) link

re: the vinyl, ending side 1 with aimless between-song tuning was a weird choice

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 August 2019 12:57 (two days ago) link

lol, at the end of side 2 there's more fiddling, fogerty says 'now we'd like to do a song called i put a spell on you', side ends

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 August 2019 13:11 (two days ago) link

here's a nice cover of "born on the bayou" by an indian garage band from the early '70s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0DHSU-5jcQ

"durango" by jj cale also has that same sort of choogle

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Friday, 16 August 2019 13:16 (two days ago) link

A key CCR moment for me was honestly buying the first Richard Hell album and hearing the awesome cover of "Walk on the Water." Must have been middle school? Whenever it was, it was the first time I realized there was more to the band than their 20 or so hits.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 August 2019 13:22 (two days ago) link

dang i love the deranged voice on that x'lents recording

Vape Store (crüt), Friday, 16 August 2019 14:12 (two days ago) link

lol, at the end of side 2 there's more fiddling, fogerty says 'now we'd like to do a song called i put a spell on you', side ends

On the Woodstock LP? In that case, I'll buy the cd

willem, Friday, 16 August 2019 17:55 (two days ago) link

yep

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 August 2019 18:09 (two days ago) link

i mean, the song's on side 3, but.. how could that have even happened

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 August 2019 18:10 (two days ago) link

If side 3 launches right into the song, I guess I can see why they may have cut it that way

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Friday, 16 August 2019 18:14 (two days ago) link

Yes that's why but.. surely you put the intro at the start of Side 3 or cut it out entirely??

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 August 2019 18:58 (two days ago) link

I have been thinking about who was as relentless at this time and I keep coming back to Buddy Guy

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 August 2019 19:00 (two days ago) link

I mean, I don't know what style he was playing at the time but he can do a similar kind of throbbing, hypnotic shred-out

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 August 2019 19:01 (two days ago) link

Love Buddy Guy.

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 August 2019 19:24 (two days ago) link


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