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Surprised there isn't already a teeming thread on this masterpiece.

It is stunning and is going to get the full CoM treatment.

It's what I always imagined grime/dubstep should sound like - empty, vast and deeply emotional.

I doubt any record will sum up the grey steel of 2006 London more fully than this one. It seems to be a compilation of tracks recorded between 2001 and now. But on early listening this is astonishing; the blackened mirror image of SAW II, Horsepower Productions in negative, Post-Millennium Tension.

Any thoughts?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 07:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink

theres some talk in the grime/dubstep thread i think

pretty good album, sounds like it should soundtrack Blade Runner or something

it has a similar vibe to classic Tricky albums too

splates (splates), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 08:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I looked at that thread but decided against posting there because of the same troll who ruined the Scott Walker/Drift thread.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 08:48 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I've said most of my thoughts already - I listened to tracks of it 45 times in the week it came out according to my last.fm page. The thing that gets me is that the guy doesn't use a sequencer. It's all made using Soundforge which is v. impressive and also maybe explains the really organic sound to it.

As I said before the only thing I don't like is the track with the rap on - the only thing I've really liked that Spaceape has done was the cover (of sorts) of Sign 'O' The Times he did on an earlier Hyperdub EP.

If I was running any kind of electronic label right now I would be commissioning remixes from this guy. In fact... why not Relevee (Burial Mix)? :)

Treblekicker (treblekicker), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 09:09 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Agree that the voice on Spaceape deflates the overall tension somewhat. The strength of the album is its dark corners, its underheard or misheard whispers in the shadows of knives and prayer.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 09:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I've only listened to it twice in full, but I think the album as a whole doesn't quite live up to its best tracks - i wish the whole thing had abandoned virtual-reality-divas moaning in anguish all over it, but it's only a couple of times and very fleeting! I still like some of the instrumental tracks though, the overwraught atmospherics remind me heavily of the best, most gothic bits of DJ Shadow's The Private Press (regardless of how verboten such a comparison might be for 'ardkore continuists).

The production is awesome yeah. Although again there's a distinction b/w the tracks with great, fluid rhythms and those with more run-o'-the-millish dubstep and halfstep beats. And the Spaceape track is definitely the weakest.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 10:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

The best time I find to listen to it is late at night, not entirely awake (Chris Morris' Blue Jam worked on the same principle), so the sounds drift into and disturb one's head.

Tried this Sunday night, awoke deeply disturbed, switched to the radio and it was "Gotta See Jane" by R Dean Taylor. "Windscreen wipers splishing, splashing..." It seemed strangely apt.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 10:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

is kode9 of hyperdub going to enter this album for the Mercury Music Prize?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 10:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

oh man, i didn't realise The Fall's "Gotta See Jane" was a cover.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 10:31 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Marcello- total agreement on this one./ However I got a beating for this by Boy Child on the dubstep thread (that's floating about here) cos apparently it represents the worst aspects of hermeticism amongst a certain strain of dance music fan. Hmm.

ANYWAY: Have you heard the "Original Garage" mix of "U Hurt Me"? Its only on one mix (available here...http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2006_04_01_blackdownsoundboy_archive.html#114529091176863831) dunno if it'll be released later, but its basically a Balearic-pop version...

IMHO: Spaceape track works well (it IS distinct to the rest as it has a live vocalist rather than distressed samples)but it has a tightly wound minimalist funk in its slightly out-of-time beats (especially when the hi hats come in) which is really compelling...

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I like "Southern Comfort" and "Broken Home" off the South London Boroughs EP. Are those on the album?

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

another album where I was really excited up until the release day, and then, a shrug. I will have to check it out.

It was nice, and unexpected, to read your thoughts on The Kiki mix Marcello.

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:17 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Yep, Southern Comfort and Broken Home are both on there.

Glad you liked the Boogybites piece...I also have things to say about the Luciano mix (Sci Fi Hi Fi Vol 2) when time allows.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

carlin does luciano? count me excited.

i needed to get one listen through my system to forget all the garbage written for it (hauntology = another excuse for nonsensical flowery prose). after that, this is brilliant. the space ape track is noticeably weaker than everything else he has released.

natedey (ndeyoung), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

this is really good!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:23 (eleven years ago) Permalink

For the ignorant -- Burial is the album name or artist name or both or...?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=21299

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:27 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Sweet clarity. I like the cover.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink

You can tell that Ned still doesn't read music blogs ;-)

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I love you, DJ Martian, but I do leave the house and all.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Burial info / links:
http://www.rawsugar.com/links/djmartian/burial
[via the superb RawSugar search interface]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Actually I think "hauntology" sorta fits, although I don't think the concept needed to exist in order for people to recognise that the samples are used in a deliberately ghostly manner.

It's the whole "elegy for Omni Trio" bizniz that I don't get - if anything this is (at its best) a cross b/w early dubstep and the more musical/emotional techstep a la the first Dom & Roland album.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I love you, DJ Martian, but I do leave the house and all.

pot, kettle

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

just funnin' y'all

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

can i just say the new SCUBA 12" is well nice

grapple (grapple), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

pot, kettle

Hooray! ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:19 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Rhythm & Pole Macro Dub Ladyland of Hyper Modern Culture

Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink

lol

jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:14 (eleven years ago) Permalink

my hands lingered over both this and dubstep allstars 3 this weekend, but i chose superlongevity 4 instead. i kinda want to hear it if only to laugh at all the "OMNI TRIO OF DUBSTEP...TIP!!" nonsense that's floating around. then again vahid says it sounds like urban tribe, so maybe i'll end up loving it. also, i think i am predisposed to anything that gets the full on hyperbolic dissensian treatment these days.

jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

more like deluzional, amirite?

jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

predisposed to pass it over?

I think Paul Autonomic's (great) mix might be all the Dubstep I really need this month to listen to at home. Also, I just don't think I'm in the mood for any more gloom & despair at this precise moment.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i was listening to this with headphones on the way to the store tonight...its perfect night-time music.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I love you, DJ Martian, but I do leave the house and all.

I think this is the cruellest comment I've seen Ned make yet.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Did Boxcutter get a thread and is this at all comparable to his album?

hector (hector), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

The Boxcutter album was streaming online for a while, it was more like technically well-done & clean, slightly orientalist (by way of Photek maybe) bassy IDM in the autechre-electro style.

It was ok, but not much melody or anything else gripping for me, I couldn't make it through the whole thing.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:02 (eleven years ago) Permalink

a review from http://www.failme.net/

First thing that has to be stated is that this isn't a straight up dubstep album. It can't be, there's far too many clever rhythmic and

melodic twists and turns to keep it held down by something as trivial as genre or style. He takes dubstep's distinctive motif's (warping b-lines, downward drums, silent gaps) and furnishes incredibly layered pieces of futurist funk.

The eastern sunrise opener of 'Tauhid' might be weighted down with swathes of sub. But, like the rest of the album, there's a light footprint to it all. Even the murky, out-of-focus echo of 'Skuff'd' seems to have a spring in its step. Whilst bass-heads will find solace in darker moments like the magnificent 'Brood'. The rest of us will find this a seasonally apt piece of accomplished electronic music.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"First thing that has to be stated is that this isn't a straight up dubstep album. It can't be, there's far too many clever rhythmic and melodic twists and turns to keep it held down by something as trivial as genre or style."

I agree that the album ain't straight-up dubstep (although it basically is in parts - the weakest parts ha) but the second half of this statement is ridiculoid.

The beats at their best are better than most current dubstep but not all (and generally not as good as first-wave Horspower/El-B etc. for the sake of an easy comparison) - the focus here is really the texturological side of tings, the heaviness of the synths and samples which gives the music a physicality not in the sense of groove, but in the sense of it feeling physically tangible, like you're gonna get damp if you listen to the tracks with rain sounds.

Still think it's an amazing EP masquerading as a decent album.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:03 (eleven years ago) Permalink

At it's best it very handily inspires a lot of purple prose (see immediately above) which i think is reason alone to at least like it, and will probably propel it to quite a bit of crossover critical (if not commercial) success.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Tim F you know that review is for the Boxcutter album? I didn't make it clear sorry(!)... not sure if that's what you're referring to there, seems like it.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 09:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Ah that explains it. I was astonished that someone would say that about the Burial album. Still, I doubt the Boxcutter album transcends genre!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:39 (eleven years ago) Permalink

speaking of hyperbolic, this is from the latest bleep newsletter: "Its everything that Goldie´s Timeless ought to have been." (quoting k-punk)

that comment pretty much makes me want to avoid this album even though i am intrigued. i am very resistant to this premature canonization stuff. was "timeless" critically reviled on it's release? i recall reading a few recent posts here that tear it apart pretty well, but "ought to have been"?

breakfast pants (disco stu), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:36 (eleven years ago) Permalink

If I liked Witchman several eons ago, will I like this? Are there any points of comparison? I have never heard dubstep, as far as I know.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Possibly. The album it reminds me most of in vibe is a Guy Called Gerald's Black Secret Technology - in particular the lo-fi original version. Same vibe, different beats.

Treblekicker (treblekicker), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Timeless had rave reviews at the time of release. It still sounds great.

Once Blogger is back up and running, I will deliver a more persuasive argument for you purchasing the Burial album.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i don't understand why he would even mention tricky. one is shiny & lazer sharp & the other is murky, decayed, *buried". it's like slagging off superpitcher record for not being a basic channel record i.e. they sound completely different.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

eek

i don't understand why he would even mention tricky.
i don't understand why he would even mention Goldie.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink


marcello - every time i look at CoM now it's formatted so the text runs way off the page. is that my fault (seetings?) or yours?

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:58 (eleven years ago) Permalink

seetings settings! jeez

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i tried to listen to the samples somewhere, but i imagine its not something that would lend itself to that. whats a good track to download?

artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

try you hurt me or gutted

yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink

http://www.hyperdub.net/burial/burial.jpg

oh hai

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 15:20 (three years ago) Permalink

Aw, he seems quite sweet.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 31 January 2014 15:25 (three years ago) Permalink

Someone tweeted just that link and first couple of lines I thought it would be a dramatic 'I'm retiring' kind of thing

abcfsk, Friday, 31 January 2014 15:48 (three years ago) Permalink

Hopefully by the end of most years I have done some tunes that are decent enough to release. but Dark Souls 2 is on the horizon soon so I'm not sure if I will have many new tunes for a while because I need to play that game a lot.

a++

adam, Friday, 31 January 2014 15:48 (three years ago) Permalink

So Burial is Kode 9 Four Tet Alexander Nut?

Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Friday, 31 January 2014 18:10 (three years ago) Permalink

is there anyone who is seriously still a burial conspiracy dude or is it all joeks

mh, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:36 (three years ago) Permalink

LOL ed.b

the late great, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:51 (three years ago) Permalink

guess he was at James Blake's Boiler Room set a while back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8idi7PcsbU

Number None, Friday, 31 January 2014 19:40 (three years ago) Permalink

pretty sure he's sampled dark souls in the past.

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 31 January 2014 19:49 (three years ago) Permalink

Hope this means he'll be putting out "Feral Witchchild" and all the other BBC mix stuff Hyperdub never bothered to release full versions of.

Frontier Psychiatrist, Saturday, 1 February 2014 12:56 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Rival Dealer has officially sunk in and I know it was touched on briefly upthread, but. . .

. . .did he use this release as one big coming out party?

Can't think of a more glorious, life-affirming way to do it, if so.

Austin, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 06:45 (three years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

The previously unreleased 2009 track Lambeth is on the Hyperdub 10.4 compilation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYV-ZuGo9DY

StanM, Monday, 3 November 2014 17:04 (two years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

wooo

StanM, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:02 (two years ago) Permalink

Two friends who love Burial have both said this is his worst track. I wonder if he just gave a spare track to a buddy and thats why it's white label only on a different label.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:35 (two years ago) Permalink

I like it, it's different again

StanM, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:20 (two years ago) Permalink

Come on! It's banging!

StanM, Saturday, 24 January 2015 17:49 (two years ago) Permalink

It's really bad

boxedjoy, Saturday, 24 January 2015 20:40 (two years ago) Permalink

its so bad its

...

good

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:41 (two years ago) Permalink

It's quite good

paolo, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:04 (two years ago) Permalink

hot takes all around, team

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:52 (two years ago) Permalink

Kate Bush sample on the fade

Nekomizu don't work (MaresNest), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:59 (two years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

http://www.factmag.com/2015/10/15/did-burial-just-play-unsound/ ?

StanM, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:23 (one year ago) Permalink

five months pass...

So what's happening with him?

Van Horn Street, Friday, 8 April 2016 20:30 (one year ago) Permalink

popped out for a nandos

tay.ai fan (seandalai), Friday, 8 April 2016 21:23 (one year ago) Permalink

playing Dark Souls probably

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2016 21:35 (one year ago) Permalink

four months pass...

pretty good album, sounds like it should soundtrack Blade Runner or something

it has a similar vibe to classic Tricky albums too

― splates (splates), Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:34 AM (10 years ago)

so are they gonna get him to do the blade runner 2 soundtrack

j., Saturday, 20 August 2016 04:32 (eleven months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

HDB100 Young Death/Nightmarket

StanM, Monday, 28 November 2016 13:05 (seven months ago) Permalink

now with link: https://burial.bandcamp.com/

StanM, Monday, 28 November 2016 16:00 (seven months ago) Permalink

awesome

just another (diamonddave85), Monday, 28 November 2016 17:36 (seven months ago) Permalink

Just listened to those; really liked them.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 05:01 (seven months ago) Permalink

Fucking excellent. Just such wonderful music.

Austin, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 07:38 (seven months ago) Permalink

From the moment the new single started it was instant chills. His style is so consistently good, warm and enveloping. "Paradise Circus (remix)" is one of the most harrowing songs ever.

Ross, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 21:07 (seven months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD46Rc9Besc

StanM, Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:52 (three months ago) Permalink

^entirely unnecessary by both parties

the article don, Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:14 (three months ago) Permalink

and already removed too

StanM, Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:23 (three months ago) Permalink

what does it sound like

the late great, Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:45 (three months ago) Permalink

what was it?

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 20 April 2017 23:36 (three months ago) Permalink

Burial's remix of Goldie's "Inner City Life" (release date April 22)

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Thursday, 20 April 2017 23:54 (three months ago) Permalink

I like how Burial dropped one of the best releases of the decade (Rival Dealer EP) before saying PEACE OUT IMMA play Dark Souls... forever apparently.

yesca, Friday, 21 April 2017 05:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Except that he just released the Young Death/Nightmarket EP last fall?

Austin, Friday, 21 April 2017 06:02 (two months ago) Permalink

Maybe he's still working on beating Dark Souls. He's this close to reaching the final boss.

Karl Malone, Friday, 21 April 2017 06:07 (two months ago) Permalink

Except that he just released the Young Death/Nightmarket EP last fall?

Didn't like that at all so I didn't count it. :P

yesca, Friday, 21 April 2017 08:10 (two months ago) Permalink

what's bad about it?

niels, Friday, 21 April 2017 17:31 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm into it.

Tbf there were multiple Dark Souls games released since then, takes a lot of time!

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 21 April 2017 17:35 (two months ago) Permalink

wow

definitely not what i was expecting!

the late great, Friday, 21 April 2017 18:28 (two months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

couple new tunes
http://thequietus.com/articles/22452-new-burial

nxd, Friday, 19 May 2017 10:45 (two months ago) Permalink

Not very interesting ones.

chap, Friday, 19 May 2017 11:13 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't know, 'Beachfires' is pretty good as an ambient thing.

But yeah, otherwise, these are some of his least captivating things.

Austin, Friday, 19 May 2017 22:20 (two months ago) Permalink


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