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Surprised there isn't already a teeming thread on this masterpiece.

It is stunning and is going to get the full CoM treatment.

It's what I always imagined grime/dubstep should sound like - empty, vast and deeply emotional.

I doubt any record will sum up the grey steel of 2006 London more fully than this one. It seems to be a compilation of tracks recorded between 2001 and now. But on early listening this is astonishing; the blackened mirror image of SAW II, Horsepower Productions in negative, Post-Millennium Tension.

Any thoughts?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 07:59 (fourteen years ago) link

theres some talk in the grime/dubstep thread i think

pretty good album, sounds like it should soundtrack Blade Runner or something

it has a similar vibe to classic Tricky albums too

splates (splates), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 08:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I looked at that thread but decided against posting there because of the same troll who ruined the Scott Walker/Drift thread.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 08:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I've said most of my thoughts already - I listened to tracks of it 45 times in the week it came out according to my last.fm page. The thing that gets me is that the guy doesn't use a sequencer. It's all made using Soundforge which is v. impressive and also maybe explains the really organic sound to it.

As I said before the only thing I don't like is the track with the rap on - the only thing I've really liked that Spaceape has done was the cover (of sorts) of Sign 'O' The Times he did on an earlier Hyperdub EP.

If I was running any kind of electronic label right now I would be commissioning remixes from this guy. In fact... why not Relevee (Burial Mix)? :)

Treblekicker (treblekicker), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 09:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Agree that the voice on Spaceape deflates the overall tension somewhat. The strength of the album is its dark corners, its underheard or misheard whispers in the shadows of knives and prayer.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 09:20 (fourteen years ago) link

I've only listened to it twice in full, but I think the album as a whole doesn't quite live up to its best tracks - i wish the whole thing had abandoned virtual-reality-divas moaning in anguish all over it, but it's only a couple of times and very fleeting! I still like some of the instrumental tracks though, the overwraught atmospherics remind me heavily of the best, most gothic bits of DJ Shadow's The Private Press (regardless of how verboten such a comparison might be for 'ardkore continuists).

The production is awesome yeah. Although again there's a distinction b/w the tracks with great, fluid rhythms and those with more run-o'-the-millish dubstep and halfstep beats. And the Spaceape track is definitely the weakest.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 10:01 (fourteen years ago) link

The best time I find to listen to it is late at night, not entirely awake (Chris Morris' Blue Jam worked on the same principle), so the sounds drift into and disturb one's head.

Tried this Sunday night, awoke deeply disturbed, switched to the radio and it was "Gotta See Jane" by R Dean Taylor. "Windscreen wipers splishing, splashing..." It seemed strangely apt.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 10:25 (fourteen years ago) link

is kode9 of hyperdub going to enter this album for the Mercury Music Prize?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 10:28 (fourteen years ago) link

oh man, i didn't realise The Fall's "Gotta See Jane" was a cover.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 10:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Marcello- total agreement on this one./ However I got a beating for this by Boy Child on the dubstep thread (that's floating about here) cos apparently it represents the worst aspects of hermeticism amongst a certain strain of dance music fan. Hmm.

ANYWAY: Have you heard the "Original Garage" mix of "U Hurt Me"? Its only on one mix (available here...http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2006_04_01_blackdownsoundboy_archive.html#114529091176863831) dunno if it'll be released later, but its basically a Balearic-pop version...

IMHO: Spaceape track works well (it IS distinct to the rest as it has a live vocalist rather than distressed samples)but it has a tightly wound minimalist funk in its slightly out-of-time beats (especially when the hi hats come in) which is really compelling...

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I like "Southern Comfort" and "Broken Home" off the South London Boroughs EP. Are those on the album?

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:15 (fourteen years ago) link

another album where I was really excited up until the release day, and then, a shrug. I will have to check it out.

It was nice, and unexpected, to read your thoughts on The Kiki mix Marcello.

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Yep, Southern Comfort and Broken Home are both on there.

Glad you liked the Boogybites piece...I also have things to say about the Luciano mix (Sci Fi Hi Fi Vol 2) when time allows.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link

carlin does luciano? count me excited.

i needed to get one listen through my system to forget all the garbage written for it (hauntology = another excuse for nonsensical flowery prose). after that, this is brilliant. the space ape track is noticeably weaker than everything else he has released.

natedey (ndeyoung), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

this is really good!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

For the ignorant -- Burial is the album name or artist name or both or...?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=21299

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Sweet clarity. I like the cover.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

You can tell that Ned still doesn't read music blogs ;-)

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I love you, DJ Martian, but I do leave the house and all.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Burial info / links:
http://www.rawsugar.com/links/djmartian/burial
[via the superb RawSugar search interface]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually I think "hauntology" sorta fits, although I don't think the concept needed to exist in order for people to recognise that the samples are used in a deliberately ghostly manner.

It's the whole "elegy for Omni Trio" bizniz that I don't get - if anything this is (at its best) a cross b/w early dubstep and the more musical/emotional techstep a la the first Dom & Roland album.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link

I love you, DJ Martian, but I do leave the house and all.

pot, kettle

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link

just funnin' y'all

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link

can i just say the new SCUBA 12" is well nice

grapple (grapple), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link

pot, kettle

Hooray! ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Rhythm & Pole Macro Dub Ladyland of Hyper Modern Culture

Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link

my hands lingered over both this and dubstep allstars 3 this weekend, but i chose superlongevity 4 instead. i kinda want to hear it if only to laugh at all the "OMNI TRIO OF DUBSTEP...TIP!!" nonsense that's floating around. then again vahid says it sounds like urban tribe, so maybe i'll end up loving it. also, i think i am predisposed to anything that gets the full on hyperbolic dissensian treatment these days.

jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link

more like deluzional, amirite?

jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:16 (fourteen years ago) link

predisposed to pass it over?

I think Paul Autonomic's (great) mix might be all the Dubstep I really need this month to listen to at home. Also, I just don't think I'm in the mood for any more gloom & despair at this precise moment.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link

i was listening to this with headphones on the way to the store tonight...its perfect night-time music.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I love you, DJ Martian, but I do leave the house and all.

I think this is the cruellest comment I've seen Ned make yet.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Did Boxcutter get a thread and is this at all comparable to his album?

hector (hector), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link

The Boxcutter album was streaming online for a while, it was more like technically well-done & clean, slightly orientalist (by way of Photek maybe) bassy IDM in the autechre-electro style.

It was ok, but not much melody or anything else gripping for me, I couldn't make it through the whole thing.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:02 (fourteen years ago) link

a review from http://www.failme.net/

First thing that has to be stated is that this isn't a straight up dubstep album. It can't be, there's far too many clever rhythmic and

melodic twists and turns to keep it held down by something as trivial as genre or style. He takes dubstep's distinctive motif's (warping b-lines, downward drums, silent gaps) and furnishes incredibly layered pieces of futurist funk.

The eastern sunrise opener of 'Tauhid' might be weighted down with swathes of sub. But, like the rest of the album, there's a light footprint to it all. Even the murky, out-of-focus echo of 'Skuff'd' seems to have a spring in its step. Whilst bass-heads will find solace in darker moments like the magnificent 'Brood'. The rest of us will find this a seasonally apt piece of accomplished electronic music.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:04 (fourteen years ago) link

"First thing that has to be stated is that this isn't a straight up dubstep album. It can't be, there's far too many clever rhythmic and melodic twists and turns to keep it held down by something as trivial as genre or style."

I agree that the album ain't straight-up dubstep (although it basically is in parts - the weakest parts ha) but the second half of this statement is ridiculoid.

The beats at their best are better than most current dubstep but not all (and generally not as good as first-wave Horspower/El-B etc. for the sake of an easy comparison) - the focus here is really the texturological side of tings, the heaviness of the synths and samples which gives the music a physicality not in the sense of groove, but in the sense of it feeling physically tangible, like you're gonna get damp if you listen to the tracks with rain sounds.

Still think it's an amazing EP masquerading as a decent album.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:03 (fourteen years ago) link

At it's best it very handily inspires a lot of purple prose (see immediately above) which i think is reason alone to at least like it, and will probably propel it to quite a bit of crossover critical (if not commercial) success.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Tim F you know that review is for the Boxcutter album? I didn't make it clear sorry(!)... not sure if that's what you're referring to there, seems like it.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 09:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah that explains it. I was astonished that someone would say that about the Burial album. Still, I doubt the Boxcutter album transcends genre!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link

speaking of hyperbolic, this is from the latest bleep newsletter: "Its everything that Goldie´s Timeless ought to have been." (quoting k-punk)

that comment pretty much makes me want to avoid this album even though i am intrigued. i am very resistant to this premature canonization stuff. was "timeless" critically reviled on it's release? i recall reading a few recent posts here that tear it apart pretty well, but "ought to have been"?

breakfast pants (disco stu), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link

If I liked Witchman several eons ago, will I like this? Are there any points of comparison? I have never heard dubstep, as far as I know.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Possibly. The album it reminds me most of in vibe is a Guy Called Gerald's Black Secret Technology - in particular the lo-fi original version. Same vibe, different beats.

Treblekicker (treblekicker), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Timeless had rave reviews at the time of release. It still sounds great.

Once Blogger is back up and running, I will deliver a more persuasive argument for you purchasing the Burial album.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't understand why he would even mention tricky. one is shiny & lazer sharp & the other is murky, decayed, *buried". it's like slagging off superpitcher record for not being a basic channel record i.e. they sound completely different.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link

eek

i don't understand why he would even mention tricky.
i don't understand why he would even mention Goldie.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link


marcello - every time i look at CoM now it's formatted so the text runs way off the page. is that my fault (seetings?) or yours?

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

seetings settings! jeez

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link

i tried to listen to the samples somewhere, but i imagine its not something that would lend itself to that. whats a good track to download?

artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link

try you hurt me or gutted

yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it’s really great that he’s just putting out singles now, his stuff works better for me in twenty - thirty minutes chunks

reeeeellly dug “beachfires” from a few years ago

brimstead, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 01:11 (one year ago) link

I agree that he’s only gotten better since Untrue

brimstead, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 01:11 (one year ago) link

Burial has aged very poorly with me. It's like all the mystery has evaporated, once all the samples have been revealed.

Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 04:53 (one year ago) link

I think it’s really great that he’s just putting out singles now, his stuff works better for me in twenty - thirty minutes chunks

cosign

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 12:27 (one year ago) link

His early work's the best for me, I like it when he keeps it simple. The first album is just about perfect.

paolo, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:35 (one year ago) link

I think I prefer his early stuff because it fit in really nicely with the UK music scene at the time (garage, grime and dubstep) even though he was a bit separate.

paolo, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:36 (one year ago) link

these two periods as records hold really well for me

nxd, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 10:57 (one year ago) link

I haven't gone back to the albums in years but I still regularly listen to those 12"s

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 13:01 (one year ago) link

lol for all the talk of compiling an album out of his 10s material he's just announced a compilation of it

Tunes 2011-2019:
CD1:
01 State Forest
02 Beachfires
03 Subtemple
04 Young Death
05 Nightmarket
06 Hiders
07 Come Down to Us
08 Claustro
09 Rival Dealer

CD2:
01 Kindred
02 Loner
03 Ashtray Wasp
04 Rough Sleeper
05 Truant
06 Street Halo
07 Stolen Dog
08 NYC

missing a few tracks though - "pre dawn", "indoors", "temple sleeper" and "rodent". i guess "pre dawn", "indoors" and "temple sleeper" were't on hyperdub so that's maybe part of it, but "rodent" was. not that i really miss them

ufo, Friday, 25 October 2019 14:17 (one year ago) link

if u savages vote this into the 10s poll like rifts i will just skip its placement

the rival dealer ep on its own however, now that was always his best work imo and I'd fully support it

imago, Friday, 25 October 2019 14:22 (one year ago) link

i'm entirely behind rival dealer, that's easily a top 5 record of the decade

ufo, Friday, 25 October 2019 14:23 (one year ago) link

to save anyone else the trouble of compiling it

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/55AABlKSVrknAlPDiKD8kF?si=GMNE5MeLQQGZk9-ASiq7bg

Simon H., Friday, 25 October 2019 14:24 (one year ago) link

i swear i don't have any inside information. i just really like burial ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 25 October 2019 14:36 (one year ago) link

I will buy this comp despite already owning the Truant and Kindred CDs.

Listening to Burial on earbuds while walking in chilly weather = still one of my favorite things to do

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 25 October 2019 16:07 (one year ago) link

almost $30 with shipping and conversion via Hyperdub, hoping I can snag this domestically

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 25 October 2019 16:10 (one year ago) link

I've been kind of hoping for a Hyperdub 15 compilation to follow the five and ten year compilations

mh, Friday, 25 October 2019 16:18 (one year ago) link

all the ambient pieces really work together nicely at the start of this comp, i like them a lot more together than on their own

ufo, Saturday, 26 October 2019 00:25 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://pitchfork.com/news/listen-to-burials-new-song-old-tape/

StanM, Friday, 22 November 2019 21:13 (one year ago) link

wow i love this

ufo, Saturday, 23 November 2019 01:21 (one year ago) link

That's fantastic. He really gets the balance right between euphoric and melancholy on that one.

paolo, Sunday, 24 November 2019 11:19 (one year ago) link

ooh yeh this is great, unique style for burial i think

nxd, Monday, 25 November 2019 10:10 (one year ago) link

Enjoyed the Pitchfork review of Tunes 2011 to 2019. Usually this is the kind of critical hagiography that grates on me but it doesn't here, probably because I agree with all of it.

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 7 December 2019 00:04 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

A new Burial + Four Tet + Thom Yorke collab has surfaced and I’m loving it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdrmRoCMWC4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCrAMw57ATI

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:32 (five months ago) link

oh these are really lovely, some of my favourite music from thom in a long time.

ufo, Thursday, 3 December 2020 02:37 (five months ago) link

God these are good.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 15:45 (five months ago) link

I love these.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:21 (five months ago) link

yeah, these are great. but just like the "ego" / "mirror" thing from several years back, i'm immediately annoyed at the exclusivity of them — WHY??!!?! it's three of the most respected and renowned musicians of the last decade, get it on the fucking radio ffs.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:27 (five months ago) link

^^^

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 21:23 (five months ago) link

Her Revolution is so beautiful, I could listen to it go on forever

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Sunday, 13 December 2020 04:41 (five months ago) link

low fi chill yorkeie beats. yeah i could do with this being an hour

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 14 December 2020 21:06 (five months ago) link

it has been on Spotify since Friday

yeah, these are great. but just like the "ego" / "mirror" thing from several years back, i'm immediately annoyed at the exclusivity of them — *WHY*??!!?! it's three of the most respected and renowned musicians of the last decade, get it on the fucking radio ffs.

it has been on Spotify (and I’m sure the others too) since Friday

Which, in fairness, was a week after the original, allegedly exclusive, release.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 14 December 2020 23:34 (five months ago) link

Blame Four Tet, his schtick-y obsession with doing this exclusive vinyl/record store stuff to be seen as cool and underground wears a touch thin in 2020. Great music tho!

matt h, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 11:58 (four months ago) link

https://burial.bandcamp.com/album/chemz-dolphinz

new single "chemz" with another, "dolphinz", coming in april (or maybe february? it's a little unclear)

ufo, Monday, 21 December 2020 05:57 (four months ago) link

🔥🔥🔥
What a Banger!

Sold out already, unfortunately. Hope they'll press more

willem, Monday, 21 December 2020 06:56 (four months ago) link

I had a dream last night that Burial got made an MBE. True story.

paolo, Monday, 21 December 2020 10:22 (four months ago) link

xxp it looks like the full digital release comes out in February, one half of the release is available now, and the vinyl is scheduled for April

mh, Monday, 21 December 2020 18:03 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

holy shit, chemz is incredible stuff. i haven't been following burial over the past few years, is this the first time he's gone all-out rave like that?

josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 8 January 2021 06:14 (four months ago) link

He's definitely had some rave-ier tracks -- Temple Sleeper, Rival Dealer, etc

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 8 January 2021 16:44 (four months ago) link

"claustro" from 2019 is the closest predecessor to "chemz"

ufo, Friday, 8 January 2021 19:02 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

It’s been almost 10 years since I last heard Untrue and my nostalgia got triggered hard. This does for me what Massive Attack’s Mezzanine does. Albums which I was obsessed about the year they came out and I very rarely come back to, but when I’m in the mood for them they outshine every music ever made.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 22 February 2021 05:47 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

(i haven't listened yet)

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 30 April 2021 03:26 (two weeks ago) link

wish I was feeling this more but like the last several Burial singles I find it a bit disappointing. "Space Cadet" better than "Dark Gesthsemane" though

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 30 April 2021 11:34 (two weeks ago) link

these are the first Burial tracks I really like again after a long time

StanM, Friday, 30 April 2021 19:30 (two weeks ago) link

"Dark Gesthsemane" is fantastic!

Tim F, Saturday, 8 May 2021 05:25 (one week ago) link

agree

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 10:42 (four days ago) link

dark gesthsemane is so good

nxd, Saturday, 15 May 2021 19:44 (one hour ago) link

I'm as massive a Burial stan as you will find and I am still not hearing what you all are hearing in these new tracks

Still here for it though, and for whatever's next

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 15 May 2021 20:16 (forty-four minutes ago) link


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