did taylor and adele lead us astray, too? are they, too, flimsy works of fiction?
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 00:17 (eight years ago) link
He was backed by a combo. You might call it jazz, I would call it music.And I know it when I hear it.Especially because he was followed by Tori Kelly, who was execrable, I couldn't check my phone fast enough. A mildly talented neophyte overhyped by her manager...if this is the best we've got, we're screwed.
And I know it when I hear it.
Especially because he was followed by Tori Kelly, who was execrable, I couldn't check my phone fast enough. A mildly talented neophyte overhyped by her manager...if this is the best we've got, we're screwed.
Lots to unpack here, but I don't even think Tori Kelly's mom thinks she's the best we've got.
― thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Friday, 12 February 2016 15:34 (eight years ago) link
Just because someone’s cute and a good conversationalist, that does not mean they’ll be a good mate. You’re looking for someone with perseverance, who will also call you on your b.s. One of the greatest predictors of commitment is credit rating.
i'll bet he's a really fun first date.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 18 February 2016 20:39 (eight years ago) link
i just spent a weekend in LA mingling with industry types for work and let me tell you there are a lot of Lefsetzes out there
― SCROTUS (stevie), Saturday, 20 February 2016 09:24 (eight years ago) link
Just realized I would love to see Al Pacino read Lefsetz Letters. Meandering, philosophical, sentimental, INTENSE.
― ... (Eazy), Saturday, 20 February 2016 15:15 (eight years ago) link
Stevie, can you say what you do in a google-proof way? If not, cool.
Lefsetz is mesmerizing in that way a person who spouts clearly wrong-headed opinions, but does so with great gusto/confidence. If I'm totally honest, I'm a little jealous of his self-righteousness. I'm not totally confident I understand anything in this world as much as he thinks he understands the music industry.
― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Sunday, 21 February 2016 00:13 (eight years ago) link
oh god yeah sure, just a common-or-garden music hack, but i ended up in a bunch of grammy parties last weekend while writing a feature and the lefsetz-esque pontificating was thick in the air.
― SCROTUS (stevie), Sunday, 21 February 2016 13:24 (eight years ago) link
Oh boy does Lefsetz have some thoughts on the Kesha case
― thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 04:20 (eight years ago) link
This case is primarily about money. Kesha could offer to repay Dr. Luke and Sony for their investment and give them an upside in any recordings she does with another company, but…to my knowledge, so far she hasn’t done this. If Kesha is allowed to skate, scot-free, who else should be able to do this and for what cause?
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 04:44 (eight years ago) link
His comments about rape in the beginning of that piece...clueless
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 14:09 (eight years ago) link
And his ridiculous analogy to getting out of a phone contract
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 14:11 (eight years ago) link
That’s today’s music business, that’s today’s life, no-nothings pontificating loudly upon that which they are clueless about.
stop it, Bob, you're hurting them
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 14:24 (eight years ago) link
someone's feeling a bit crowded in on
― maura, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 16:43 (eight years ago) link
Hell, the Supreme Court made George Bush President. Deal with it. During his term tens of thousands of people lost their lives. But now Kesha alleges rape and therefore the Supreme Court of New York should throw out the rulebook?
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link
don't feel as good about stripping this particular Letter for yuks but that part was just so lefsetz
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 16:48 (eight years ago) link
what is a "no-nothing", does he mean "know-nothing"?
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 16:54 (eight years ago) link
this issue kinda exposes how gross he is imo. like usually the grossness of his positions is pretty benign because the axe he's grinding is "people like hit records" or whatever, but underneath it is a real contempt for, like, musicians generally.
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link
yeah this is disgusting
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 16:59 (eight years ago) link
i was actually thinking omg this piece of shit is gonna have some big thoughts on the kesha case
what a scumbag
― uptown garfunkel (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 17:17 (eight years ago) link
the most frightening thing about this is to consider how many people in the biz agree with him, and who are currently reading this very column and going "well, yeah."
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link
yeah i am so used to thinking of him as a laughable clown (since this thread is really what I know him from), but recently someone I knew (a generally smart guy) posted one of his columns on facebook saying: "lots to think about in the latest lesfetz" as though bob is some wise sage
― tylerw, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link
they should bring him on as a writer for that HBO rock dude series
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link
Nothing on the show so far suggests he isn't writing for it.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link
He would agree: xposthttp://lefsetz.com/wordpress/2016/02/19/vinyl/
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:13 (eight years ago) link
There's a joke circulating on Twitter that HBO should do a series called "MP3" next about the early '00s music blogging scene. But I actually think a show about the music industry in the early '00s could be fascinating - a bunch of executives who came up in the '70s and '80s who are now rich old fucks who think their world will last forever, and then they get blindsided by technology. And for that, you definitely need a Lefsetz character - a psychopath who's preaching the gospel of digital technology one minute, then in the next breath rhapsodizing about the '70s and claiming all new music is shit, then going off on some random tangent about nothing, but because he picked one big hit, once, everyone continues to listen to his in(s)ane bullshit.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:27 (eight years ago) link
If only PS Hoffman were still with us...
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:39 (eight years ago) link
I could see an always sunny sort of thing working
"You know who was there? Students. Girls. Wanna get laid? Go to a One Direction concert."
"..."
"What?"
"...that's kind of weird man"
"I'm just saying, I was the lone male in a sea of females. Prepubescent females!"
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:42 (eight years ago) link
but recently someone I knew (a generally smart guy) posted one of his columns on facebook saying: "lots to think about in the latest lesfetz" as though bob is some wise sage
― tylerw, Tuesday, February 23, 2016 12:59 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah a year ago someone was like "lefsetz nails it again" and i was just like wtfbut yeah this thread makes me think everything thinks of him as a total fraud like you said
― uptown garfunkel (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 20:28 (eight years ago) link
but because he picked one big hit,
Wait, what hit did he pick? Either I never learned this or I'm forgetting.
― how's life, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link
That was a fictional example - as far as I know Lefsetz was only in the business for a couple of years.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 20:52 (eight years ago) link
yeah it's unclear where lefsetz's cachet comes from. patter i guess.
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 20:55 (eight years ago) link
talent.
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 20:56 (eight years ago) link
tellin it like it IS, man!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 20:59 (eight years ago) link
the dude isn't afraid of anything! except women! and young people! and death!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 21:00 (eight years ago) link
Just re-read that WIRED article fron a few years back. Forgot that he was fired from his industry job for arguing with Blackie Lawless about which W.A.S.P. single to release.
― how's life, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 21:09 (eight years ago) link
Bob Lefsetz (born April 22, 1953) is an American music industry analyst and critic, and author of the email newsletter and blog, the Lefsetz Letter. The newsletter has tens of thousands of subscribers.[1][2] On April 2, 2013, Variety Magazine announced that Lefsetz will be writing a column for its weekly print edition and its website.[3]
Themes explored in the Lefsetz Letter include:
The diminishing role of the major record labels in current recorded music and corresponding increasing influence and importance of grassroots artist activities such as live performances and direct online relationships with fans.The decline of CD sales as alternate online music services such as iTunes continue to flourish.
The prevalence of Peer-to-Peer (P2P) file-sharing as the primary source of digital music distribution.
The need for a legitimate and licensed Peer-to-Peer or similar distribution service to facilitate the next working business model for the music industry.
Lefsetz's personal reflections on songs, songwriters, bands and industry insiders that have affected his unique and independent outlook of the music industry.
Lefsetz's personal observations on a wide range of topics, including reflections on his personal life.
― uptown garfunkel (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link
""Fuck Like a Beast" is gonna be YUGE!"
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link
In 2007, Lefsetz and Kid Rock engaged in an email feud but have since reconciled.[5][6][7]
― uptown garfunkel (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 21:13 (eight years ago) link
You try to make a name for yourself with half ass opinions based on everyone who is actually trying to do something in music. Yet you do NOTHING but talk. See you on the streets you punk ass mother fucker!!!
Kid Rock
kid rock OTM
― uptown garfunkel (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 21:15 (eight years ago) link
And Robert Plant looks like a poof. A weakling who couldn’t get David Bowie in bed.
― glandular lansbury (sic), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 22:09 (eight years ago) link
why oh why did I google that to see if it was a real quote?
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 22:26 (eight years ago) link
Tempting to write a two-character play: Rock/Lefsetz.
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 22:29 (eight years ago) link
There's a joke circulating on Twitter that HBO should do a series called "MP3"
Said joke being by our own s1ocki.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 23:22 (eight years ago) link
http://www.idolator.com/373018/everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-bob-lefsetz-but-were-afraid-to-ask-because-all-caps-comes-off-like-yelling
From 2008
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 22:03 (eight years ago) link
i LIVED it mannnnnn
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 25 February 2016 00:09 (eight years ago) link
"Not Found
The requested URL /wordpress/2016/02/22/kesha-vs-dr-luke/ was not found on this server."
― mark e, Thursday, 25 February 2016 09:00 (eight years ago) link
I couldn't connect with Lefsetz.com all day yesterday.
― how's life, Thursday, 25 February 2016 10:02 (eight years ago) link
It seems like there are currently no archives.
― how's life, Thursday, 25 February 2016 10:03 (eight years ago) link
however
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:07cXwpHm07YJ:lefsetz.com/wordpress/2016/02/22/kesha-vs-dr-luke/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
― how's life, Thursday, 25 February 2016 10:05 (eight years ago) link
We haven't had that kind of outage here since 1969.
― ... (Eazy), Thursday, 25 February 2016 15:09 (eight years ago) link